It is unlikely going to be a good "business" . For you to actually get a profit from gambling site affiliate comission then you will need to snap in someone who can wager quite a volume. Considering most gambling site offer 10 % of the standard 1 % edge that means for each 100 BTC wagered , your comission will be 0.1 BTC.

The main problem of advertising in a network ads is that mainly the site in the networks are faucet sites and for someone that could wager alot , the chances are tiny that the person is lurking around a faucet site. For exposure/impression, network ads is a YES but if you are advertising to hope that you could get a return or profit then the chances are close to zero .

Obviously to lure in a gambler ( a real gambler not just a dust bettor ) chances are higher if you own a gambling review site or some sort of site comparison which seems to be not a feasible idea for your right now it seems

Some other BTC forum but then again those who have account in other forum usually has one in bitcointalk


I didnt turn any profit at all. IIRC the total commission from all this referall combine in 30 days is around 0.002~ BTC which means that I only turn around 6 % back to me. The profit doesnt matter to be honest because what matters for me would be the exposure, if you check on the number of the unique views thats quite great for just 0.03 BTC for 30 days. To cut this short, it is not easy to snap a whale that register with your affiliate link if it is what you mean

Either you are being stupid or funny which is much more likely the former. I did read it and I do know that anyone can start their own casino which again nothing like you claimed

Just to make this clear this is what you claimed


I assume this means that they are rigging your bet as there are no other way for them to take back what you have won unless you turn yourself into a degens and bet huge ( which is either lose by luck or them rigging your bet )


How funny. You should read what I've wrote previously



This means every site that you have listed above and including 4grinz. I may despise all this non provably fair site but without any proof regarding either they "steal" or "rig" your bet then this will all be just a nonsense and merely witch hunt. Now if you have the time, kindly go back and read my post clearly just so you know for the last time Im not defending any non provably fair site

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Yeah right, judging from all this conversation I can now see why .

Very funny, I think I made my stance clear that I despise all gambling sites without provably fair. Im stating the most obvious thing, you cant win all the time or expect to win big every time you play in a gambling sites, not here or not in a provably fair site which is pretty obvious . Gambling sites are made to get revenue for the owner and not everyone is lucky enough to win


Part of a gambling site promotions, otherwise no one will be playing. Again a pretty obvious thing but take into your note that Im not standing up for them despite that I despise them for not being provably fair


All I see is merely revenue shares and nothing all. What I want is a proof that a non provably fair like this one is rigging the site thus making people lose alot. That proof would be neat to shut down all this non provably fair site that depends on their flashy badges of netent or the others

Pretty much just a risk of gambling which every gambler must endure. This happen to all of the gambling sites around here as one cant keep on winning all the time otherwise there will be no one that wants to create a gambling sites. Most people are skeptical when they lose or suffer or lose streak however no one actually make a fuss when they are winning huge ( pretty much weird isnt it )
However what do you actually expect from a non-provably fair casino? unlike a provably fair site, this site provide no ability for the players to verify their own bet .


I'll be glad if you can show me this. Either post here or PM me the relevant proof

The owner of the site last login was at 6th August (references below), thats 9 days ago and this isnt the first time this happened. Mostly that will trigger the site owner to be online is when the site is down, other than that the response time could be longer

References : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=165520

Not sure if this will help but try to contact oldmate as well as he knows the owner at the site and could help you contacting him

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Not in the death spiral yet but kinda abandoned for now because it seems that the owner is either busy with real life or working for another project , which the former is quite likely otherwise the owner as well as the other investor will be taking out their investment ( currently 600+ btc is still there )

Depends, if you are discussing about mellowads then this is the correct section but if this is more about finding suitable places for advertising gamble sites then gambling board is more suitable


The sites in mellowads are mostly faucet sites and those who claimed faucet are pretty much not into gambling. Furthermore to attract someone to click the ads, you will need an attractive banner but then again you will only get referall who wager mostly dust . Also to break this down, you cant expect a result in one day


The image above shows my previous campaign in mellowads for 30 days which is an ads for BetterBets referall link and turns out the player conversion for that 428 unique clicks was around  5-7.5 % % which mostly wager dust (around 20+ish referall)


Thats fairly expensive as a one of the biggest faucet site around, even 100,000 impressions could be achieve in less than 2 hours ( thats $12)

Regardless, I seen few people seems to be "complaining" about the investor's profit taking a huge dip which for me it is natural because it is a risky investment to begin with and pretty much a risk that every investor need to bear just incase things go south. Personally I would like to see this again sometimes in the future as this huge investor's lost could be a charm to get more players to Moneypot but obviously without hurting the investor too much ( which is pretty hard to get a balance for that )

Anyway Im glad that the profit went back to 20 + BTC in a very short time and it seems luck is shifting back to the investor's side 

The dice script that you mention probably is the coindice script that has been used by alot of dice sites around which unfortunately claimed to have alot of backends from few unsatisfied buyer (references below) . Unfortunately statistics has shown that the site that uses that script actually either end up suffer because someone win huge ( could be due to an expoit ) or that close down their business due to the lack of players ( which is pretty obvious due to lack of innovation )

References :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1065017.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=920645.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1091065.0


Not really, Dan's free script has been proven to be free from exploit and nasty backends

I would say that this twist is kinda needed sometimes. The word "investment" is kinda giving people an insurance that their stash will keep on increasing and not decreasing so when the investor's profit is taking a huge dip, alot of people stressed out because they are losing some percentage of their stash which is understandable as people love winning and not losing things 

The good part about this negative profit is that atleast this serves as the proof that the house isnt unbeatable which is good for promotional purposes both to attract more gambler to try their luck and win huge at Moneypot as well or that to a potential investor which could lead for more BTC as the bankroll and allow the apps in Moneypot to attract more whale 

It is not hard to find someone talented to make a good script if you have the funds for that but the problem will be finding someone trusted enough to make you the script as the person could be putting some exploitable backend.

Plus that the other problem would be that if you have the funds for that, why would you go with something similar with PrimeDice? People are fed up with the same script over and over again and making a clone of that wont sell your site. Your main objective would be finding someone trusted enough to build you a unique script from the scratch ( if you have the funds for that which might cost alot )

Your bet will be instantly processed if you send with atleast 20k sats as the miner's fee and below that will be processed after 1 confirmation (references below). Apart from that you are playing at the right place because LuckyBit is known for keeping the suspense though unlike dice which you get the result instantly with just 1 click

Yes there is, a free dice script from Dan that has been use multiple times and so far no backend or other error found whatsoever

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1062680.0


This is a must. The free script from Dan has been used multiple times and people are skeptical with this however if you are only looking to have a feel on how it is to own a dice site than go ahead and use the script but if you are thinking of getting serious in this business then you need to write a script from scratch but do take into account that this gonna cost you alot with no guarantee that you will success. Statistic shown that most people here dont really trust a new site so its kinda hard around here especially there are alot of older dice site

Moneypot is the one that know this seed ( or just Ryan himself ). No other site owner know this and this whole fuss about investor profit lowering down is simply because of variance shifting its side for the gambler. Some gambler won huge , some made a very huge volume and some recovered most of their lost so it is pretty normal but very unfortunate for investor but to break this down, investor cant win all the time though the peak was 50+ BTC profit once.

P.S : too bad Im missing a huge whale action today. I wasnt around when the house goes in negative profit, should be pretty much exciting to see the huge roller coaster

Umm sorry what? I didnt even reply to any of the post here anymore as Dooglus is already here to shed some lights with all this delusion  . Im calm and there is nothing that hype me as I've seen this kinda stuff like almost 1 time each 2 days in this gambling board .

I knew what you have stated is pretty much impossible and I posted that post not because Im angry or whatever you think about it but mostly it is to encourage you to change your mindset as I was thinking the same thing like you are now back then before I knew about provably fair  . I was trying to help and thats it but it seems you dont want to be helped as you keep ignoring facts despite that you have been shown a thorough explanation with math

Now the question would be where do you usually play dice at? Perhaps you played it in a rigged site though

There isnt any notification that the application is disabled automatically due to some reason therefore most people dont know about it as most will only go to BetterBets directly instead of checking Moneypot first (which would be neat if there are some notification in our moneypot's dashboard).
Next time if there is some false alarm again, I'll make sure to notify both in chat and thread to avoid confusion again  sorry for the inconvenience though


Saw that one, crazy yolo indeed. Really glad that you won that one 


It should be near around the corner as we are almost approaching the third month anniversary. It could be sooner then 19th though I would need to think about some more stuff regarding rules and such for the next one 

This is funny because dooglus is pretty much a math expert around here and he is not posting here as a dice site owner but as a math expert mostly that present the facts with math. If you cant trust math then you are indeed funny


Now you are being delusional. Each bet is dependant and the chances stays the same no matter how many times that you play. Instead of keep on stating this delusion, how about presenting a proof instead? if you think that this "delusion" exist then you should not be hard to prove it.
All I see so far is a raging player because of losing in a dice site, spouting nonsense without even considering the facts that the site is provably fair and you can easily notice if the owner of the site is rigging your bet


Of course, this is not a secret anyway and everyone knows it and which is why every sites has the house edge to make sure casinos win in the long run


I laughed real hard when reading this  . A licensed casino without a provably fair system is pretty much unfair. For me, true fairness would be when I have the ability to check wether my bet is fair or not and without provably fair I cant do so.
Most licensed casino has no provably fair mechanism and for me that is not a true fairness, simply because I dont think having a license means they are not rigging it but unless I can check my bet then it is not fair at all

Max bet is different from max profit. If you are looking for max profit then it is 18.3 BTC but if it is max bet then it varies according to the multiplier and also the max profit

References : http://dicesites.com/


Yes you cant, figured it out myself. Sorry for asking something impossible to be done. Im kinda fool in spreadsheet


This is pretty much important . The title is a comparison of dice websites and max profit in one site is indeed needed for comparison as some people would love to play in a site that could offer them a higher limit of max profit but at this moment I assume this cant be done to keep on updating the max profit because it simply depends on the bankroll of the site which could be more or less then the time it was last updated


Whichever that suits you better because it will be lot of workload to keep on changing it each time investment drop or increase . This is a downside of using spreadsheet though nothing can be done in this early stages

You are pretty much wrong with this. Giving a loan to an A+ rated borrower with a good track record isnt simply a guarantee that they might not default the loan . There has been lot of highly rated borrower that actually defaulted despite that they have submitted their real identity.
As a matter of facts, they got almost nothing to lose by defaulting this because in the end you will be given their identity that has been submitted but you will need to pursue the defaulter with your own cost which could cost more than what you have loaned therefore these scammers easily slip away by defaulting

If this is so then dicecoin, safedice and pocketdice should be listed with instant as well because they do process it "instantly" according to what you mean as instant. Most site process withdrawal after 1 confirmation atleast and funds will be transfer either instantly or in few seconds which is pretty common sense as no site will let you withdraw before 1 confirmation so putting 1 confirmation there is pretty much vague imo

On a side note, it seems the downside of using spreadsheet is that the max win of some site will be pretty much outdated because it doesnt update automatically . Im not an expert with spreadsheet but could the spreadsheet be made with some formula that will follow the bankroll of each site? Currently BetterBets has a maximum win of 3.07 BTC

EDIT : nvm Im a fool, it cant be done 


Thanks for the thorough explanation !