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5741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: October 15, 2016, 08:30:10 AM
IF you are really loosing so much bitcoin because of that gambling it because of the eagerness and it will be illness and you can't really quit gambling when you are earning money but for own good if you gain or make somuch profit in gambling website you should quit gambling right now and start building a shop.
If you earning money in gambling then you are exceptional, only few can make money in gambling and you are lucky you have that skills so why quit gambling? I would be very glad to gamble even every day as long as I can make consistent money in gambling, there's no other easy way than making money in gambling so I would treasure it.
5742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: October 15, 2016, 08:25:22 AM
i think it is not such an easy job to quit gambling and specially if you are addicted.
There are no such easy way that you really want to quit gambling its not like in relation ship that if you want to quit you are going to quit it by process and if you are going to quit in gambling make sure that you will never back then because it will make you more addicted.
I know that is not easy man, but that is gambling when you are planning to quit that could mean that it has no good effect in your life or it might ruin your life already. Because you want to quit you will lose the opportunity to enjoy gambling again, and that is a big sacrifice on your part, what you need to do is just to accept that gambling is no good for you.
5743  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 15, 2016, 08:17:29 AM
Lots and lots of options are available now in this forum to become rich with btc. If you are skilled, you can earn a lot. We have lot many projects to be done here with less investments. Can design, do projects, gamble, trade, join in a signature campaign and lot more doors open here to double your btc and get wealthy. Only few things are to be done. Dedication on time and energy is needed for it.
Not only in this forum I guess because the method is here online and its free to download, however it depends on us on how to apply that in practice. We have to be really devoted with our goal to become rich and do the right thing that would take us there.

We can do things like investing, or working hard to have a good salary.
5744  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: October 14, 2016, 01:11:37 PM
If you really have that number of bitcoins well giving loans or offering loans would be bad for you or in your term risky.Because bitcointalk accounts may be hacked and use to get loans and default it

Indeed I think loans are very risky to give you could just get scammed so easily in my opinion.
Someone could take your loan and never pay you back especially if you are loaning online.
There are many opportunities to make money online when you are a businessman but I suggest do not make a loaning business, that is only good in physical world where you know exactly who your borrowers are, here in online, they can use a fake identity and that is already expected because we are in the crypto world. So it is better to be safe than sorry, be smart all the time.
5745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: October 14, 2016, 01:07:20 PM

Gambling is an addicting thing because it always make you more greedy about it.

And in case you lose your money, you are always interested to return it back, as you think to yourself " Lets just return what I lost and quit the game " but in fact, it doesn't happen, and it makes you keep gambling.

Its a normal happening for every gamblers out there gambling is base on luck and gambling is not a source of income its just for entertainment we are just paying for our entertainment there is no assurance that we can make good money there.. if you addicted you should stop because it can drain your wallet.
With that kind of mentality you will not be addicted in gambling, we should think that it is only for fun so when we are gambling we will get the best entertainment regardless the outcome of our bets may it will lose or will win.

you would really get addicted easily if   you have these  kind of aims  when you do play gambling, aiming for profits  is not  good at all because   this  motivation would  really make  you broke in the end  because  you would surely keep chasing  you  lossings. Gambling should  be  treated   as an entertainment.
Your chance of not being addicted is if you have a good self control in gambling, most of the gamblers failed to control themselves when aiming for money because the emotion will really play here and will be a traitor to make you bet without discipline that would result you to a bigger loses.
5746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to win gambling with no lose? on: October 12, 2016, 01:17:58 PM
Hey! Good day! I really want to know the secret of how to win and not to lose because i am afraid to join the life of a gambler it might make me addicted to it if i lose. When i lose im the one who never gives up >.< im afraid to be addicted and i want to win no matter the cause  Angry Angry
Bro First Of All It is Not Possible That You Only Win...
Also I Suggest You That If You Want to Get Succeed In Your Life Then Leave Gambling And Do Some Other Business Because Gambling Already Wreck Many People Life.......

Maybe that person too know this it's not possible and but everybody with gambling looking for something magical, but nobody want to accept his lose with gambling that is why he want to get something which can make profit for him.


Theres no magical  thing  on playing gambling and also  theres  no really possibility to gamble without any lose. People  dont really  accept this reality for sometimes thats  why they keep  on  playing and  hoping for that moment that  they would experience  no lose games which is  really impossible thing to happen.

Yah, I also think there's no way to gain just profit. Gambling is that kind of game which depends on luck only So none can expect only profit from it. It's like a universal truth and we have to accept it that gambling can't give us any profit. So, we should accept it's reality and try to avoid it.
Just enjoy every single moment you have the privilege to gambling, our real profit here is not the money because we know our chances already but what makes us successful in gambling is that we were able to be happy despite of the loses we have experienced.
5747  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: October 12, 2016, 01:13:45 PM
It is not uncommon to have no wins in dice. Although the house edge is very small, it is still very likely to lose if you play long enough. So the trick is to play for a short period of time so you can get some decent profit and quit before the house edge creep in.

This would be the wisest move  when you intend to  play dice on a gambling site, first you must set a particular  goal  regarding  on  how much you  would  possibly win so that  in times that you are able to reach it   then you should  obliged yourself to  stop and secure the profits.
and you should also have a stop exit point when you are losing as well because dice really a game of luck the more you play the more possible loss you will get so better to have that too not only the winning but losing as well.
The only chance you can win in dice is when you are lucky, if you are just playing it for fun you will not pay attention on how much you have lose as you are already happy with temporary winnings, and I can say that is good so you will enjoy instead of thinking of your past loses and will resort to recovering your loses.
5748  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: October 12, 2016, 12:55:44 PM
Luck is much more useful.

Think about it like that, in money terms, have a big luck can gain you a big fortune, but having a lot of skills wouldn't do so.

It also depends what do you prefer , being really rich, or being the best at what you are doing.
I would choose the 2nd option, but it all depends on the person.



I wish we can control your luck to work for us, we are lucky in life if we successful with our ventures but that does not mean that we are not making effort to develop our skills and just rely on our luck every time we engaged in trading or in business.
5749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 12, 2016, 12:50:59 PM
To stop gambling, you need to seek another addicted thing that could wasting your time like game or .... love (ah I talk nonsense again Roll Eyes) Yeah just think people who you love so much and what the bad effects of gambling that could hurt them. Anyway I love gambling, and I never felt any bad effect. Just bet responsibly.


Diversion of all your attention really works. If you really want to quit, that's true, your loved ones are the best diversion. Aside from that, shifting your attention from gambling to your day job is really a great way of quitting gambling. With day job aside you got two benefits, you shift your attention and at the same time you earn money which is mostly the main reason why we gamble.

That's right it coud work well. By making ourselves busy with anything better that could make us forget and could stop gambling with gradual. Help people around also coud help but all back on our intention to change.

That is certainly true, but I think it will not only give us not think of gambling but also make us into defeat against which we are doing. So I assume that these are very extreme ways, the better we come to psychologists and ask for assistance. After that we are asking for support for our families. Then I thought it was something better and very precise

well going to the psych would mean that your addiction is already worse that it already needs professional help. i think gambling can be avoided if you really want to and everything you all said were all correct and reasonable. it may just boil down to how bad the person wants to quit. same as with any other addiction. professional help from a psych are  only suggestions on what to do, it would still be up to the person to do it or not.
I think it is better to consult your parents or your family first before going to a professional. They should the first person we should talk as with gambling problem we cannot just solve it alone, professionals are only without in a certain period of time during the therapy but your family can be will you all the time.
5750  Economy / Economics / Re: I have 12 BTC in my Account, How should I invest this?? on: October 12, 2016, 12:33:09 PM
Advice, tips, speculation please.
I think that you should hold on to them for a moment because buying Bitcoin is already an investment in it self so I think that you should not do much with them.
Wait for the price to rise and then make a choice if you want to sell some of them.

Sell some of them if you need money or else better choice to save them or invest them in trading, both are the good ways to make money in long run,  you should take decision that best fits your needs.
Actually if you still have money aside from 12 BTC you have, just consider that amount as for investment only, chances are you can grow that amount if you are strictly managing it for investment purpose only. As an investor, we should understand that we cannot mix our personal expenses and for investment by nature business is separate and distinct from the owner.
5751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: October 12, 2016, 12:29:45 PM
What is letting me coming back is the fact that its very enjoying, you can make some money and that its the game that you are playing too.
You can just enjoy yourself for hours and win money, what do you want more right ?

Lucky if everyday is sunny day.. If the tide turns, then most probably that's not what you are going to feel.. But it's true that "money and winning" are the only thing that keeps a gambler from coming back, and fun or happiness is just a consolation whether you lose or win...  Smiley

Correct, for me  what thing  could  gamblers make them back is  the money or profits itself because  there are  lots of players do lose  on playing gambling thats why they are keep coming back to  get those  loses  thats why they  getting  broke  even more because  chasing losses are not  an ideal thing to do.
Majority of us gamblers are coming back for the money as we think when we were given a chance to experience winning for the first time everything was easy and we can make consistent income, ignorant people will think like this as they do not understand what are the risk and chances in gambling if we are here to play and beat the house.
5752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: October 12, 2016, 12:26:02 PM
I think it is not necessary. Indeed, we need help from others to be able to stop gambling, but the intention and consistent in itself is more important. We can occupy themselves with other things such as streets with my friends, hang out with family, or if you often hold a laptop we could use trade. It is very difficult to stop gambling, but if we have the intention certainly doable.

Certainly, if others can do it, why can't we? for sure we can quit gambling if we really want to, and if we want to seek the help of others and our family probably what we need is a cheer, a motivation so we could stop and not those blames and whatever.

But why we come in that stage, where we want to quit gambling? if we never cross our limit than we have no problem with it. Gambling became problem-able for us, when we totally depend on it and  and in this way, we became addicted person, and most of the time gambling not suit for us.   
But still i am agree with you, If other can do it, So why we can't do it?
You quit for two reasons, it is either you are not enjoying gambling or you enjoy the game but you are force you quit because you have been losing so much money and you are afraid to experience bankruptcy.

Gambling is very entertaining but it is the most risky game for those who are irresponsible and seeking money instead of fun.
5753  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: October 12, 2016, 12:21:55 PM
If you are a seller than dont use Paypal but if you would like to purchase something then you can use Paypal. But in this case there is no much people use Bitcoin for payment so mostly you will have to use accept Paypal anyway. Just need to be careful.
most of company that running on virtual world such as those which selling hosting,domain,or even VPS are accepting bitcoin,so bitcoin could be quite useful for buying any virtual stuff except when it comes to offline world,bitcoin can't stand a chance to be your payment processor.
Bitcoin will dominate all the online currencies, companies are using bitcoin or accepting bitcoin already because they have seen that we as a community were growing so they find greater opportunity to make money from us.
5754  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 12, 2016, 12:18:22 PM
If you were in desperate need for money / Bitcoins, what would you do? How to get it, earn it, whatw are your solutions and experiences? I wonder what people are ready to do when money is the problem.
For other people Maybe scamming  is the only way to get bitcoins in times you need bitcoin in fast way. I dont think someone will give you if your begging for it.
I would need to take on a job or if I would need to money right away then I would have no other option left but to take a loan.
That is the only option left because I am not going to steal or anything to make money.

Yeah and stealing money in crime and if you get caught then it will be an black mark on your character so its always better to take a loan or borrow money from your friends or family.
I would not compromise my future doing illegal things as much as possible, it is good to live a comfortable life experiencing real freedom and you are not thinking of getting caught in the future, sometimes when we are really in desperate times we can think of things that is not good but being in desperate times is not an excuse to do crimes.
5755  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: October 12, 2016, 12:14:30 PM
Gambling is not made for kids and I do not think that it would also be a good idea for kids to be introduced to gambling.
It is better for them to not come in contact with it because otherwise they will have some interest in it because they see that only adults can gamble.

I think gambling is indeed made for everyone, but I do not agree if kids are allowed to conduct gambling, because of the risk that would be obtained for the kids and also parents is very dangerous and it will give you a very bad history. the kids did better given some of the other things that are more useful as the contest, sign campaign, or faucet

yeah gambling is not made for kids but eventually they would be exposed to it sooner or later so i think it's better for parents to explain it to them early on so that when time comes that they are provided a situation wherein gambling is concerned, they know how to be responsible with it
Why would they need to explain if to their kids if they can do things for their kids not to be aware that gambling games are in existence, the best approach here as a parents is always prevention because curing gambling is hard already as it is considered as a serious problem.
5756  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: October 12, 2016, 12:12:00 PM
My fave team MAVS finally back on track after the debut game of Dirk Nowitzki against the OKC. Yes Nowitzki didn't played for their recent preseason games because MAVS are doing some "plan" for this veteran player. Keeping up it's shape in the next season is one of their goal.

Dirk Debuts With Win Over OKC
Sad to say Dirk is already too old to compete with young superstars, they are still the same team last season and what I see is that they will still not gonna make it to the playoffs, I am sorry mate but if Mavs is your team you will not see their weaknesses.
5757  Economy / Economics / Re: Spending Bitcoins on: October 11, 2016, 12:07:49 PM
I usually spend my bitcoins at gambling sites and trading sites. The most one is at gambling sites, especially sports book like nitrogen and sportsbet.io. Because i'm a gambler addict.

Cool, so what is the ration of your profit and loss? Do you manage to make money from sports betting as everyone feels that its an risky way to make money as majority of times you will be loosing.
I think he is not in profit because he mentioned that he is spending his bitcoin in a certain gambling sites, when you are making money in sports betting you called that sports investing and that is what I heard when professionals are promoting their picks in the internet.
5758  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: October 11, 2016, 12:04:08 PM
I think that you can only be lucky when trading because we can't figure out what the price is because bitconi's volatile

No you can't just be lucky when trading and you can guess what prices will be somewhat. You just have to analyze the market prices and find a behavior in one of them which is returning and then take advantage.
Being only lucky when trading is enough in my opinion,even you're buying in the most high peak of price at the month but if you have luckyness and the price suddenly increasing drastically then you can make profit from it,and the factors that make traders got profit is luckyness and analyzation skill regardless to any other factor
I would not rely on my luck if I were you, if you are a day trader and you are frequently trading for sure you will not succeed as your luck cannot be with you all the time because if that is the case we do not have to do our research anymore and just trade blindly they collect the profit.
5759  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: October 11, 2016, 09:24:23 AM
I dont know that still gamble if I am rich
maybe I dont have time to play it, I have a lot of money I can do anything to be happy in the world. Grin

Yes mqybe explore the world is best we can do if we are rich. Going to some beautiful places all over the country. Triping to your friends and relatives. Make memorable experience in adventure of your life.
I think that I would sometimes gamble a bit but not to much because i do not want to end up getting addicted to gambling.
Even if you are rich I still think that you need to know when to stop with gambling.

If you really love gambling ti is just fine to gamble for fun sometimes as it is also boring to just world all the time and earn money without enjoying anymore. A responsible gambler has no risk in gambling and I hope you are a responsible gambler.

Great saying in the last part,

I am totally agreeing with it,
A responsible gambler has no risk in gambling,
Since a responsible gambler knows his limits,
either it is by the amount of time he spend in the
game or in the amount of money that he/she put at stake.
There is no danger when you are solely playing gambling for fun, of course losing is already given in gambling as our chances is lesser compared to the house due to house edge, accepting that we can lose is a good move to enjoy more gambling.
5760  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling. on: October 11, 2016, 03:50:51 AM
The only reason that I might quit gambling in the future is when I am not enjoying it anymore, in the sense that I lose more than what I can afford to gamble and losing the interest of the games I previously love, usually it is the money which is the main hindrance for our success as when we are about to start gambling for money, the real problem will just come.
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