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5761  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitcoin: "Lakše je prevariti ljude nego ih uvjeriti da su prevareni"(Mark Twain) on: February 21, 2020, 05:29:14 PM
Oni koji su za kikiriki stavili tonu bezvrijednih brojeva na svoje adrese, a sad ih prebacuju na vaše adresa za vrijedne robe/usluge i naplatne financijske instrumente ili za potrošnju ogromne količine električne energije kako bi se to prebacivanje moglo ostvariti. Zamisli idiotizma i debilizma - trošiti tone i tone struje samo da bi se anonimni prevaranti isplatili i još uvjeriti prevarene ovčice da su dionici magičnog novca budućnosti. Ludilo.

Pretpostavljam da imaš nekakve dokaze da potkrijepiš ove svoje tvrdnje?  

Ako se ne varam, isto si tvrdio i prije više od godine dana po raznim forumima pa se tvoja 'teorija' još uvijek nije pokazala istinitom. Prema svemu što si do sada napisao, pretpostavljam da nemaš puno znanja o tehničkim aspektima blockchain tehnologije već sve promatraš s ekonomskog stajališta, stoga u nedostatku potpunih informacija pokušavaš 'ugurati' cijeli koncept u tebi poznate modele.

Činjenica je da blockchain predstavlja potpuno nov i drugačiji način obrade financijskih transakcija i da se Bitcoin mreža danas smatra najsigurnijim sustavom na svijetu. U više od deset godina postojanja, Bitcoin mreža nikada nije 'provaljena' iako je u potpunosti otvorena i izložena svakodnevnim napadima. Možeš li to prihvatiti?
Osim toga, zašto misliš da količina utrošene energije ima ikakvog utjecaja na izvršavanje transakcija? Pa, prvi blok je 'izrudaren' sa samo jednim računalom a prva transakcija između dva računala je izvršena sa samo nekoliko računala na mreži. Isto se odnosi i na cijenu jednog Bitcoina. Bitcoin mreža je jednako dobro funkcionirala i kada je cijena 1 BTC-a bila $ 0,01 isto tako će funkcionirati i kada cijena 1 BTC-a bude $ 100.000,00. Hoćemo li dvije pizze platiti 10.000 BTC ili ćemo za 1 BTC kupiti vilu na Kvarneru poptuno je nebitno.
Kada sve navedeno uzmeš u obzir, da li stvarno možeš i dalje tvrditi da Bitcoin nema apsolutno nikakvu vrijednost? Barem sa tehničkog ili inovativnog stajališta? I da, znam da se negdje spomenuo da je usluga prijenosa vrijedna a ne Bitcoin. Da si barem pročitao Bitcoin whitepaper znao bi da usluga prijenosa = Bitcoin.

By convention, the first transaction in a block is a special transaction that starts a new coin ownedby the creator of the block.  This adds an incentive for nodes to support the network, and providesa way to initially distribute coins into circulation, since there is no central authority to issue them.

A kolika je ta vrijednost? O tome ne odlučujemo niti mi, niti rudari, niti tvorac Bitcoina, već nevidljiva ruka tržišta.

I, da se vratimo na tvoju 'tezu' iz naslova, kako smo to mi, točno, prevareni?
Pod pojmom 'mi' smatram većinu ljudi sa ovog foruma koji koriste Bitcoin u njihovom svakodnevnom životu - primaju naknadu za svoj rad u Bitcoinu, ostvaruju profit trgovanjem na burzama, kupuju robu i usluge sa Bitcoinom, igraju se sa Bitcoinom, štede u Bitcoinu...


Svrha bilo kojeg foruma je rasprava o nekoj temi. Ja raspravljam o temi bitcoin prevare, načinu na koji se ona racionalizira te pobijam teze u korist te racionalizacije. Vi pak trolate skretanjem s teme na mene osobno propitkujući moje motive, zazivajući moje kažnjavanje i napuštanje foruma. Ako niste sposobni raspravljati nitko vas ne sili da budete na ovom topicu. Slobodno ga ignorirajte.

Ono što ti ovdje radiš zove se argumentum "prenagljena generalizacija" - na temelju malog ili pristranog uzorka donosiš neki opći zaključak.
Također, napravio si i klasičnu logičku pogrešku koja ima karakter sofizma.

U internetskom nazivlju, izraz trol označava osobu koja dolazi na internetske zajednice kao što su internetski forum, soba za razgovor (chat room),[1][2] tematske grupe (newsgrupe),[3] blogovi s jedinim ciljem da na njih šalje podjarujuće,[4] podrugljive, grube, uvredljive poruke ili poruke koje nisu tema da bi namjerno dosađivala ostalim sudionicima, stvarala zavade, odnosno remetila tijek rasprave.

Definicija prema Collins-ovom riječniku [5] , u internetskom nazivlju pod izrazom trol označava osobu koja namjerno piše provokativne komentare u internetskoj raspravi.
 

I još nekoliko tvojih 'ad hominema' za kraj:

Tu se dakle radi o žešćem tipu intelektualnog posrtaja i samo mogu reći da te žalim.

To se zove adio pameti. Nije čudno da ste namagarčeni. S takvim načinom razmišljanja zreli ste da vas gule. No, ne žalim vas.

Ali ti si ponovo odabrao biti ovčica umjesto da razmišljaš svojom glavom.

Ovdje sam izdvojio samo nekoliko tvojih zadnjih objava. Siguran sam da ti je poznato da je agresivna komunikacija najčešće znak slabosti i nesigurnosti i da ljudi pribjegavaju diskreditiranju drugih uglavnom kada se sami osjećaju ugroženi zbog nedostatka argumenata.  
5762  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 WEEKLY COMPETITIONS, fast bets BTC LTC ETH DOGE on: February 21, 2020, 11:51:14 AM
Everything is all right in terms of coins and data, it's just the database job that apparently blocked everything. I keep figuring out how to bring everything back online ASAP.

Great to hear that you’re working on it! I hope you'll figure it out and solve the issue soon. Wink
5763  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling a threat or fun? on: February 20, 2020, 09:39:29 PM
Casual gambling for fun and relaxation is probably okay. But if it grows into addiction and starts consuming your whole life, you should probably seek help and find a way to stop gambling. I happen to know several people whose lives have been literally destroyed by gambling addiction. So, I'm free to say that gambling can be the real threat in certain situations.
5764  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Politika u Hrvatskoj on: February 20, 2020, 08:25:44 PM
Ne volim etikete, al' evo, prema ovome ispada da sam i ja socijalni liberal Grin

5765  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Visa approves Coinbase as Principal Member - big step for mass adoption? on: February 20, 2020, 08:06:57 PM
This is great news because with this means Coinbase will start delivering their Debit cards, with those cards we could may payments of products and services with bitcoin direct with our balance on Coinbase.

I believe they already do. According to a Coinbase blog, a Visa debit card is available to customers in 29 markets.

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Coinbase Card is available for customers in Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, and the UK.
https://help.coinbase.com/en/coinbase/trading-and-funding/other/coinbase-card-faq.html
5766  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Visa approves Coinbase as Principal Member - big step for mass adoption? on: February 20, 2020, 07:30:01 PM
Cryptocurrencies, like many other technologies that came before it, will take time for widespread adoption. Ordinary people simply don't understand how cryptocurrencies work or how they can improve their daily lives.

Things like this will help bring cryptocurrencies closer to the general population, which is ultimately good for the entire crypto world.
5767  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitcoin: "Lakše je prevariti ljude nego ih uvjeriti da su prevareni"(Mark Twain) on: February 20, 2020, 01:18:08 PM
Meni je zaista fascinantno i nepojmljivo da se vi toliko trudite opravdati one koji vas gule ili su vas ogulili, čak i po cijenu da se odreknete razuma.

Molim pojašnjenje ove izjave. Tko to, konkretno, nas 'guli' ili nas je 'ogulio'?

Btw, molim te da mi pristupiš kao pučkoškolcu a ne kao francuskoj sobarici! Grin
5768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you share at least one gambler who have become rich in gambling? on: February 20, 2020, 11:08:43 AM
Since we believe that there are people who become rich in gambling or they are making a living in gambling
...

Where did you get such information that we all believe that there are people who got rich by gambling? Making a living by gambling? Perhaps. But these must be experienced gamblers with years of experience and a great deal of self-control.
Of course, there are individuals who win some kind of jackpot (on the national lottery or some other game of chance), but most of them spend all the money and quickly return to their old way of life.
5769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Site's Investing (Is it worth it?) on: February 20, 2020, 10:51:10 AM
Its really worth investing if the site is as trusted as some of website I know like this one https://freebitco.in/# they can pay you interest everyday and the very good thing is there is no lock-in period which means if you decided to withdraw it anytime you can.

Freebitco.in is the recommended gambling site to invest. We can send some amount of bitcoin and get a return based on their calculation, but we cannot expect to make a big return from the investment. Maybe you need to be patient to see your investment will grow bigger, but I don't think that it will happen in a short time. But at least, you can get a free return from the recommended gambling site plus you can use some money to buy the lottery to win another prize.

The freebitco.in investment program seems totally unprofitable to me. It gives you 4.08% annual interest on your balance, compounded daily. This is almost comparable to the interest on savings from your bank or other financial institutions in fiat currency. Since the latter is a risk free investment, I don't see the point of investing in freebitco.in service.
5770  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Posebna ponuda tjedna on: February 20, 2020, 08:01:13 AM
3 boda za post br. 3 - Ethereum 2.0 – Serenety, Što je i kako radi?
2 boda za post br. 12 - SCAM upozorenja Zbirni topic
1 bod za post br. 7 - Certificate of Incorporation

Žao mi je što nemam još bodova na raspolaganju... Wink

5771  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: █ ★☆★777Coin★☆★ █ ✔ Full Range of Games ✔ Instant Withdraw ✔ Free mBTC! on: February 19, 2020, 01:49:31 PM
Nah, the majority here posts here for self-gratification (including myself, but I've stopped Cheesy).

But you could try PMing lightlord to see if the offer is still valid.

Oh, I see. I guess that explains that. Grin

I didn't know the promotion ended because I see new entries every day. I'm not gonna bother lightlord with this. Thanks!



5772  Economy / Gambling / Re: Here are some great promotions for all of you! on: February 19, 2020, 11:08:42 AM
Another new thread? I thought you said that you would integrate all your topics in 1 thread, but I guess you were just bluffing. Pathetic stuff op. You risk gaining negative exposure as I mentioned earlier by going this route.


I agree. One announcement post with regular updates would be appropriate here. This way, it really looks like unnecessary spamming of the forum.

@Bitcoin_chaser, Please consider forwarding this and any further discussions about your site to a single thread as recommended by the forum moderators. Otherwise, I believe the community will respond fittingly. Grin
5773  Economy / Gambling / Re: New casino on: February 19, 2020, 10:56:18 AM
Something's really suspicious here. The OP did not respond once after the original announcement and it is obvious that he was online. Any kid who uses Photoshop or other graphics software in their spare time would make a much better design. I really don't understand what the goal of the owner is. Maybe a really cheap attempt to steal login information for other gambling sites, as some have already mentioned.
Therefore, be very cautious if you decide to register or deposit funds here. I certainly won't!

5774  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: █ ★☆★777Coin★☆★ █ ✔ Full Range of Games ✔ Instant Withdraw ✔ Free mBTC! on: February 19, 2020, 10:38:41 AM
Is this promotion still active? I've posted here before but never received any bonus...
Username: FatFork

Thanks!
5775  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Posebna ponuda tjedna on: February 19, 2020, 09:06:52 AM
Uviek će postojati mogućnost određene manipulacije glasovima ali nema nas puno pa će se takvi paterni brzo otkriti. Zato mislim da je otvoreno glasanje najbolje tako da svi možemo biti i promatrači. Grin
5776  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Posebna ponuda tjedna on: February 18, 2020, 09:52:36 PM
Pročitao sam većinu predloženih postova i, prije svega, sve pohvale na otvaranje ovakve teme.
Budući da su svi prijavljeni postovi vrlo kvalitetni i mnogi od njih, po mojem mišljenju, zaslužuju pobjedu u ovom natječaju, imam jedan prijedlog u vezi glasanja. Bilo bi dobro da svaki član može dati više od jednog glasa, odnosno da možemo odabrati određeni broj postova (npr. tri) kojima dajemo svoje glasove. Ili da se mogu dati bodovi, npr. 3-2-1. Poput izbora za pjesmu evrovizije. Wink

Na taj način bi imali više slobode pri odabiru kandidata a pobjednik se određuje prebrojavanjem svih sakupljenih bodova.
5777  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Svađaona on: February 17, 2020, 09:49:27 PM

Ne, nisi!  Grin
5778  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: [ANN] CRYPTO MINING GAME, Earn Satoshi, Doge and Litoshi by playing to mine on: February 17, 2020, 09:26:49 PM
Hello jamboom, I sent you a private message regarding withdrawal confirmation email, so whenever you have time to check it out. Thanks
5779  Economy / Services / Re: [Open] ▄■▀■▄ 🌟Bitvest.io🌟 - Plinko Sign Camp (Member-Hero Accepted)(New2) on: February 17, 2020, 05:14:04 PM
CryptopreneurBrainboss,
I'm accepting my appointment and my details on the spreadsheet are accurate. Thanks!
5780  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Ditex - cryptocurrency aggregator on: February 16, 2020, 09:27:00 AM
Isn't this supposed to be in 'Service Announcements' board?
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