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5781  Economy / Gambling / Re: LuckyFlop.eu | 500 MBC FREE ROLL | BLACK JACK | VIDEO POKER | 2BTC RAKE BACK on: August 17, 2015, 08:14:31 AM
Like to know what happened to INDAMUCK

He had clearly stated what happened to him. He was out for 30 minutes and came back to only found that he had lost his seat already. He was around 30k chips IIRC and should have been one of the top 18 if he continue to play which is depressing indeed when you have played for almost 3 hours just to find that you lost your seat ( happened to me as well, played for almost 3 hours just to be kicked out by someone with pair Ace, really unfortunate but what can you expect from a pretty slow round )

I can change that to 100 or 999

Most of the inactive accounts are probably an alt of someone. Changing it to higher hands limits will only make the abuse easier as people will have more time to switch over their alt incase they donked and lose their hands , not a feasible idea

OK next we are doing…. 8 minutes round and I can even start it at 1000 chips.

Much better, Im not into playing for almost 3 hours anymore just to get nothing
5782  Economy / Gambling / Re: I WILL BEAT ANYSPORTBOOK LINE on: August 17, 2015, 08:00:19 AM
First and foremost it was a promotional credit that would of required a deposit.

Just to be clear regarding this, will I be able to cashout the amount from my free credit if I completed the rollover? If it requires a deposit then Im pretty much wasting my time here . As for the records, could you briefly state whats my credit right now as well with the rollover required? I kinda lost here but last week I did place a bet for Manchester City to win but it seems it was not confirmed

Not sure if you are online but if you are then I would like to bet all in to Man City to win at the best possible odds that you have

If it wasnt confirmed then I'll just let this slip and my next bet would be Liverpool vs Bournemouth to be under 2.5 goals ( all in ) . It will be started in around 11 hours or so which is more than enough for you to confirm this
5783  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BEST FREE FOOTBALL BETS #1 TIPSTER✔(W445/L135)PREMIUM PICKS FOR ONLY 0.01 BTC!!! on: August 17, 2015, 07:53:24 AM
hmm i just gaved you 7 top sites in the world with their odds and you give me the site that no body has ever heard
even bitcoin sportsbooks had 1.5 and over

BTC sportsbook has less than 1.5 odds it seems. The odds comparison from flashscore clearly shown that 1.5 is the highest odds in the industry which means that BTC is lower than that .
Sad truth but none of BTC sportsbook has higher or even on par odds with the fiat sportsbook ( some maybe , idk details ). Therefore to avoid confusion, Imo you should probably state the odds of your picks in the site before it is purchased as well as the site from which you got the odds from

Premium Picks are offered via Top Bitcoin Gambling Sites all Odds are always a minimum of 1.5 (unless in a parlay  Grin).

Regarding this 1.5 odds, it seems Joca use the odds comparison in flashscore.com which is all fiat gambling sportsbook. Instead of using that as a comparison, perhaps it is much better to use BTC sportsbook only as comparison as per the bolded part

It seems Joca made one Premier League premium picks so here is a good site for comparison http://www.bitedge.co/odds-comparison/english-premier-league/
5784  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best tipster in the forum on: August 17, 2015, 07:15:10 AM
If the tipster is sure of his tip, why sell for low satoshi and not bet all his money?

There are several reasoning behind this. Some may like to showcase his skill in predicting the outcome of the match and some may want to seek for another BTC to bet but moreover this is about getting risk-free profit though this question is almost the same with those that has been constantly asked to the cloudmining provider

Code:
Why open a cloudmining site if you can mine for yourself ?

Because if lose, don't lose his money ?  Grin

Some tipster bet using their own tips as you can check some of these tipster actually provide a bet slip to show that they are actually betting with it but some are looking for a risk-free profit thus only spitting out tips from an empty air and hope for the best that someone may purchase their picks or use their affiliate link
5785  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★★JackpotRacer|0.2 Prize Most Wagered|Unique dice racing game|Jackpots 24/7| on: August 16, 2015, 09:11:25 PM
while I always maintained my profit.

Now that I look at it, it seems you are pretty much "good" with gambling. Your status in moneypot clearly shown that you are in profit for all the sites that you gambled on . Quite a nice achievement indeed, I lost around 0.03 in Jackpotracer from the last wagering contest  Wink



On a side note, I was going to snipe in the wagering contest ( at the last minutes ) as well aiming for the third rank as I only needed less than 0.6 BTC wagered but turns out that I was a bit busy and I feel bad to snipe in pahlevi that has been wagering for hours . Congratulations for all the winners btw  Smiley
5786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: LTCgear.com, the best scrypt/scrypt n/X11 cloud mining service, Not paying!!! on: August 16, 2015, 04:03:31 PM
It's pretty clear 90% of the people will never even remotely think they'll get money out of it.

It seems there are more people that actually think of getting their money still . Judging from the number of people that still hold on their account without wanting to sell for loss and also some people that still dream off getting those "magical hardware".

Pretty much common sense IMO why would you keep something that is 98 % sure that you wont get anything back rather than selling it for few percentage for loss and recoup some of it back ( for me it is pretty much better than waiting hopelessly though ). Some may seems lenient about this hardware however it seems most people are still hoping that they will get it
5787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: LTCgear.com, the best scrypt/scrypt n/X11 cloud mining service, Not paying!!! on: August 16, 2015, 12:12:18 PM
People, u need to understand it s been over months ago. Pls stop bumping this thread and go do something more productive.

Irony isnt it that people cant step away from this but still hoping that miracle will turns out someday. For entertainment purposes, I would say that this is pretty much needed as I am obviously enjoying seeing people that still believe that Chris will deliver the "magical hardware". Besides bumping the thread poses no threat anyway  Smiley

For the record this is now middle of August and still 4.5 half months to go before we head to December ( the month where all of this started ). It has been months since the promised "magical hardware" and until today there is no sign of that hardware actually exist ( no picture no whatsoever just words ). No complaint whatsoever from those who has paid the fee it seems so I would assume that the weekly payout is still ongoing but the real question would be how long will Chris be able to afford keep paying this because it seems this ponzi cloudmining is pretty much dead by now
5788  Economy / Gambling / Re: COINROYALE.COM 2.0 • New Design • Provably Fair • 1 BTC Bonus • Max Bet Doubled! on: August 16, 2015, 09:23:07 AM
The dealer seed is provided after the hand is played, which that in itself tells me that the game IS NOT provably fair.

The dealer's seed is provided after the hand is played to ensure fairness. Player would know the outcome of the game if the seed is provided before the game therefore the house hash the initial deck in form of SHA-256 (which is the combination of the server seed as well as the initial deck) Before you start the game, you are shown the hash for the next game and you are free to input your own seed , simply copy the SHA hash and verify it when you think something is fishy ( there are verifier on the site )

Code:
var initialDeck = ["Ah","2h","3h","4h","5h"];
var playerSeed = "lucky";
var seedSHA = sha256.hex(playerSeed);
var seedInt = parseInt(seedSHA.slice(-8), 16);
var mersenneTwister = new MersenneTwister(seedInt);
var finalDeck = fisherYatesShuffle(initialDeck,
                             mersenneTwister);
console.log(finalDeck);

Or simply use that if you dont want to trust the verifier on the site ( which should generate the same result ). The code above is taken from their provably fair pages btw

From my perspective it looks like the dealer seed or "salt" could be changed to find a suitable set of cards that favor the house without ever changing the Player seed.

Correct, that is why you are shown the hashed seed before you start the game to ensure fairness that the house wont be able cheat you unknowingly. The good thing about using this hashed seed is that if the house attempted to change it, the player will know exactly that it has been change . Therefore if you want to verify this, simply copy the hashed seed before the start of the game and double check it after the card is dealt
5789  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io Bitcoin Casino ★VIP★15% Affiliate Bonus PLINKO|DICE|HORSE RACING on: August 16, 2015, 07:45:36 AM
can we accumulate the wager requirements?

For now NO

i mean not only for a week, if the treshold not met then it will be accumulated for next week and so go on...for more challenging to player..^^

This site is currently the most generous site around here that give back what it makes to the player. Accumulating the wagered amount currently until the theshold is met is not a feasible idea yet because the point of this promotions is to encourage people to bet more during a week timeframe.
However things could perhaps change in the future as all this generous giveaway / promotions is based on the site's business. As long as the players keep supporting the site by playing here, the promotions could be change in the future to accomodate all player's need

tl;dr : keep supporting the site if you want a better one for your needs  Wink

P.S : dont quote me on this as Im not the owner, Im just stating an obvious thing though the decision lies with Bjorn and Lobos
5790  Economy / Gambling / Re: ░▒▓ [SoftLaunch] SharpDice -- 0.1% House Edge, Auto-Bot, MoneyPot powered! ░▒▓ on: August 16, 2015, 07:39:02 AM
Yes I understand that the house will take an average of the house edge every bet, but that is not what they actually take.

It is not , they take everything that the gambler lose however if you are seeing this from a very long term then theoretically this is correct because in the end, the profit of a site will be hovering around the house edge . Although that variance could happen sometimes as they house could be suffering or could be owning but it will be hovering around the edge at the latter point

With a larger house edge, you will lose more rolls/hands then what you would have won if there was a 0% house edge.

Theoretically this is correct however do take into account that each bet is dependant and with 0 % house edge, you could suffer a losing streak as well though the chances for it to happen is lower than a site with house edge

then they are probably not very confident in what they are doing in the first place.

It rather more about luck though
5791  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: August 16, 2015, 07:28:42 AM
-picture snip-

only in the primedice could happen like this  Cool Tongue Kiss


Very funny, this thing doesnt only happen in PrimeDice but it can happen to any other dice sites as well. It seems no one actually realize that this is an old Bet, References shows that PD is currently on 6.3 billions bets. Wonder whats the point of showcasing it right now rather than few weeks ago when you hit that nice win streak?

Pretty much irony, there has been alittle success story that was posted here and alot loser's story that complaint about the massive lost streak. If those who get a win streak would post their success story here, it would be great as it could drive more people nuts to keep playing and lose their stash hope they could win as well

P.S : nice streak although it is an old bet  Wink
5792  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: August 16, 2015, 07:18:26 AM
if you choose chelsea +0.5 means we expect a draw, so better choose under 3.5 goals but little odd just 1.27, but suitable for making parlay Cheesy

Most Chelsea's match in the last season against a top tier team usually ended up with them being the winner or a draw because they will use a heavy defensive strategy so +0.5 is pretty much not a bad choice.

Liverpool vs AFC Bournemouth, liverpool win

Pretty much risky. I'd say to stay away from every liverpool's match for the time being as they have not shown any of their quality yet . Their last match was pretty much a win because the goddess of luck was on their side.

But it could end with a 2-2 draw

It wont happen. City is currently on their top form but Chelsea is pretty much still struggling to find their best performance. Their previous match shows the difference of this both team and there will be only two scenario, either Manchester City come out as a winner or Chelsea miraculously pull out a goal or two to make it a draw
5793  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoneyPot.com :: The bitcoin gambling wallet on: August 15, 2015, 06:38:54 PM
5% is so high you can trade on it ! i am trying it for somedays and got good result till now

This is totally variance and not a guarantee that you will get as high as 5 % again. Few days ago investor suffer a huge lost instantly and afterward the investment is back to 20+ BTC now. Pretty much a roller coaster and very risky , this would be a personal warning for you to not expect for "profit" solely . You might get a good result until now but dont expect that it will last forever

To be honest, Investment in here is pretty much like a gamble itself which instead of gambling to win against the house , you are gambling against the player to lose and that means you could lose as well

P.S : it seems MP is undergoing emergency maintenance currently, wonder what cause it?
5794  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoneyPot.com :: The bitcoin gambling wallet on: August 15, 2015, 05:39:12 PM
So clearly there are some "smart" investors coming for the promo.

This is expected to happen, after a huge loss of investor there will be a new investor to invest more hoping that those who win will keep on gamble and eventually lose it all. Variance may kick in for the investor and they were taking a huge dip for that however it is pretty much a gamble to begin with and now the gamble is sure to pay off for the investor who stays

I think this has more to do with the enourmous rise in volume. if this drops, money will be withdrawn

With this enormous rise in volume, people are hoping that who are gambling to lose therefore more profit for the investor. Another reasoning behind this would be that the sudden rise to +20 BTC profit in just a short time ( pretty much like a miracle ) after the huge lost. This is very tempting for those who wanted a quick profit thus investor pile in to hope that this "miracle" happen once again
5795  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best sites/chats/anywhere to put your gambling affiliate links? on: August 15, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
I am looking into building an affiliate marketing business to gather enough funds to provide my own app but that seems so distant right now

It is unlikely going to be a good "business" . For you to actually get a profit from gambling site affiliate comission then you will need to snap in someone who can wager quite a volume. Considering most gambling site offer 10 % of the standard 1 % edge that means for each 100 BTC wagered , your comission will be 0.1 BTC.

The main problem of advertising in a network ads is that mainly the site in the networks are faucet sites and for someone that could wager alot , the chances are tiny that the person is lurking around a faucet site. For exposure/impression, network ads is a YES but if you are advertising to hope that you could get a return or profit then the chances are close to zero .

Obviously to lure in a gambler ( a real gambler not just a dust bettor ) chances are higher if you own a gambling review site or some sort of site comparison which seems to be not a feasible idea for your right now it seems Sad
5796  Economy / Gambling / Re: Best sites/chats/anywhere to put your gambling affiliate links? on: August 15, 2015, 11:55:32 AM
What type of places should we look to put the banners out if not faucets?

Some other BTC forum but then again those who have account in other forum usually has one in bitcointalk

Also did you turn profit out of that mellowads advert?

I didnt turn any profit at all. IIRC the total commission from all this referall combine in 30 days is around 0.002~ BTC which means that I only turn around 6 % back to me. The profit doesnt matter to be honest because what matters for me would be the exposure, if you check on the number of the unique views thats quite great for just 0.03 BTC for 30 days. To cut this short, it is not easy to snap a whale that register with your affiliate link if it is what you mean
5797  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: 4Grinz Bitcoin Casino Official Thread on: August 15, 2015, 09:22:10 AM
-snip-

read the damn second link. THE ONE THAT SAYS PRIVATE LABEL CASINO. if you did your research you'd under stand 4grinz, mbit casino, vegascasino.io, bitcasino.io are really just big affiliates.

Either you are being stupid or funny which is much more likely the former. I did read it and I do know that anyone can start their own casino which again nothing like you claimed

Just to make this clear this is what you claimed

they will take back what you won AND everything you own if you let them. they have done this to me and many, many others.

I assume this means that they are rigging your bet as there are no other way for them to take back what you have won unless you turn yourself into a degens and bet huge ( which is either lose by luck or them rigging your bet )

why defends this operation.

How funny. You should read what I've wrote previously

I made my stance clear that I despise all gambling sites without provably fair.

What I want is a proof that a non provably fair like this one is rigging the site thus making people lose alot. That proof would be neat to shut down all this non provably fair site

This means every site that you have listed above and including 4grinz. I may despise all this non provably fair site but without any proof regarding either they "steal" or "rig" your bet then this will all be just a nonsense and merely witch hunt. Now if you have the time, kindly go back and read my post clearly just so you know for the last time Im not defending any non provably fair site



abit off topic

Gambling ruined my life. I'm almost 40. I now live with my brother.
 -snip-
No one talks to me in real life as why would they? i'm beyond a loser

Yeah right, judging from all this conversation I can now see why .
5798  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: 4Grinz Bitcoin Casino Official Thread on: August 15, 2015, 08:54:02 AM
please can you stop sticking up for these coingaming.io casinos? THEY ARE BAD NEWS.

Very funny, I think I made my stance clear that I despise all gambling sites without provably fair. Im stating the most obvious thing, you cant win all the time or expect to win big every time you play in a gambling sites, not here or not in a provably fair site which is pretty obvious . Gambling sites are made to get revenue for the owner and not everyone is lucky enough to win

coingaming.io is a special kind of hell. heck, they even give you a VIP hostess to talk to! they will do whatever it takes to keep you playing and ruin you.

Part of a gambling site promotions, otherwise no one will be playing. Again a pretty obvious thing but take into your note that Im not standing up for them despite that I despise them for not being provably fair


All I see is merely revenue shares and nothing all. What I want is a proof that a non provably fair like this one is rigging the site thus making people lose alot. That proof would be neat to shut down all this non provably fair site that depends on their flashy badges of netent or the others
5799  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: 4Grinz Bitcoin Casino Official Thread on: August 15, 2015, 07:13:47 AM
nice win. now leave and do not come back.
-snip-
they will take back what you won AND everything you own if you let them. they have done this to me and many, many others.

Pretty much just a risk of gambling which every gambler must endure. This happen to all of the gambling sites around here as one cant keep on winning all the time otherwise there will be no one that wants to create a gambling sites. Most people are skeptical when they lose or suffer or lose streak however no one actually make a fuss when they are winning huge ( pretty much weird isnt it )
However what do you actually expect from a non-provably fair casino? unlike a provably fair site, this site provide no ability for the players to verify their own bet .

if someone shows interest in my post i'll see if I can find it again

I'll be glad if you can show me this. Either post here or PM me the relevant proof
5800  Economy / Gambling / Re: Diggit.io | Over Dice? | Brand new game! | 800+ BTC Invested! | 1% Edge on: August 15, 2015, 06:45:32 AM
3 days and nothing on my missing deposits.

The owner of the site last login was at 6th August (references below), thats 9 days ago and this isnt the first time this happened. Mostly that will trigger the site owner to be online is when the site is down, other than that the response time could be longer

References : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=165520

Not sure if this will help but try to contact oldmate as well as he knows the owner at the site and could help you contacting him

I've knew the owner prior to the launch. If I didn't, I would also be hesitant to invest a large amount.



I have a feeling this site is in a death spiral.

Not in the death spiral yet but kinda abandoned for now because it seems that the owner is either busy with real life or working for another project , which the former is quite likely otherwise the owner as well as the other investor will be taking out their investment ( currently 600+ btc is still there )
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