Darkcoin/DASH hit 0.0249 today....what did the other 'anonymous' crypto currencies today?
Darkcoin/DASH continues to grow because it is the only genuine privacy-centric digital currency in the marketplace that actually works and has not been exploited.
DASH Last Price? 0.0124  The rebranding pump was just a blow-off top and an opportunity for THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC to dump more of its massive insta-mine on you true-believing cargo cult losers. Thanks to the leveraged shorts now offered by Poloniex, not even otoh can prop up the price.  |
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Is there a way to remove most ignorant posters out of this topic?
get on slack or darktalk.org |
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No mention of blinding though? Isn't DASH's main feature its privacy? Oh wait, that was Darkcoin. DASH obviously doesn't give two shits about privacy, or else masternode blinding would have been done long ago. |
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How did this go from a gold collapsing bitcoin up thread to a poll about Gavin?
The ongoing Gavinista coup and looming Great Schism are widely considered the most serious and credible threats yet to cypher's bullish "Bitcoin UP" prediction/outlook. You mean we may go down? No, I mean we may continue going sideways, until the allegedly acute max_blocksize issue and core team mismanagement problem are resolved.
frap.doc's man crush on gavin the g-man turned into a cheerleading rally session to get the plebes onto the new bitcoin spook-fork.
both frap.doc and karpeles want to frap it up on the blockchain.
Now that's just cruel. LOL!  |
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How did this go from a gold collapsing bitcoin up thread to a poll about Gavin?
The ongoing Gavinista coup and looming Great Schism are widely considered the most serious and credible threats yet to cypher's bullish "Bitcoin UP" prediction/outlook. |
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I don’t believe fees will become high and stable if Bitcoin runs out of capacity. Instead, I believe Bitcoin will crash. -Mike Hearn ^^^There it is again. The tired old 'argument from fear." Maybe the Gavinistas were only paying lip service to BTC's antifragility, in order to execute phase one of their embrace/extend/extinguish agenda. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. -William Pitt the Younger, 1783
"And with necessity, / The tyrant's plea, / excus'd his devilish deeds" -John Milton, Paradise Lost
"Necessity is the mother of invention." -Latin/English proverb Gavin is easily 2000% more poisonous than Luke. Luke wears his eccentricities and peccadillos with pride; Gavin intentionally hid the Bitcoin XT agenda in smokey, spooky boardrooms until the time was ripe to spring his poison pill/stalking horse/tar baby trap. |
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luckily Monero doesn't have a nullc yet.
Are you kidding? A crypto rock star like gmaxwell would be a stellar addition to XMR's core team. The price would double in an hour. I'd rather he stay with Bitcoin to help balance/cancel out nefarious MBA/VC/frat boy influence, but if the Gavinistas run him off...  |
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It's getting redicilous. Isn't it? I don't, nor have ever, owned either coin and all this bickering between Monero and DASH doesn't make me want to buy either one. But most of the front page seems to be Monero fanboys just bashing the hell out of DASH. No coin can be that bad. It's not easy separating the truth from the BS, so I just assume that it's all BS.
I don't know who is going to win, but I'm pretty sure that Monero is slicing their own throats and will lose. Maybe they both will lose. One thing is for sure though. I want nothing to do with either one.
If you see a scam and say nothing, you are a scammer (and are thus don't deserve to own a single tacoshi of Monero). If you truly "want nothing to do with either one" then why are you nonetheless reading and commenting in (yet another) thread about them? I think you are just preening. You want to be seen in public wanting nothing to do with either one. This is an attention whore logic fail on the order of writing post after post about someone you are ostensibly ignoring. |
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I bet most of those 29000 XMR are from longtime holders, at least 2k are from me which I offered when Poloniex introduced margin trading and they're sitting there.
What's the reason for this? The rate you get is pretty negligible in comparison with the counterparty risk. Furthermore, it gives dumpers/shorters some additional liquidity. My conclusion is that those XMR would be better suited for an actual wallet. I want dumpers/shorters to have all the liquidity in the world. 1. Cheaper/easier Monero for me and my miners! 2. They will eventually get caught short and epic squeezes will take us in the direction of a certain very large well-known mass orbiting the earth. 3. Pumping is discouraged. |
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No it hasn't run its course yet. It will pump/dump a few more times before the main dev steps down or gets arrested for fraud
This time is different. Poloniex now lets you short DASH, and the leverage that provides makes fighting/controlling the market much more expensive for pump-hard whales like otoh. DASH shorting will make the price continue to fall. The falling price results in losses for MasterNode HYIP owners. Those owners report their losses to the appropriate State/Federal TLAs, and then THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION, INC execs go to jail. |
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I am tho a pro-monero guy, I think its a great coin and like the anonymity.
Monero uses an auto-adjusting dynamic block size so tps aren't an issue. LOL at the old fashioned static block sizes in the OP. |
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BTW: I'm curious to know if Nick Szabo will comment on this matter. I guess we could assume is Satoshi's opinion  He already tweeted, telling us to calm down and stop exaggerating. That hasn't stopped the Gavinistas from setting their hair on fire and screaming "ZOMG BITCOIN IS LITERALLY GOING TO DIE REALLY REALLY SOON IF WE DON'T ALL PANIC RIGHT NOW!!!11!!." |
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I'm working for Nick Szabo.
Szatoshi will back Back and Maxwell.
enough with the hints, spill the beans please. The beans were spilled a long time ago, but most people (including StarbucksDoc apparently) weren't paying attention: The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy. - David Chaum 1996 |
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If they did not pay you any dividends in 2014, how is Icedrill then such a good deal? You participated when? At the IPO in 2013? You got shares in 2014? in 2015?
Where did this phrase "such a good deal" come from? I never used those words. Did you pull them out of your, umm, hat? My point was Icedrill is still mining and paying dividends despite their monumental difficulties, unlike everyone's former heroes ASICminer and Cointerra. But we're getting off topic. Let's go back to discussing how great the "let's sue a struggling start-up for more money than they have" strategy turned out. Result: instead of paying refunds, we've been paying a cast of ~20 lawyers to dance around and waste HF's last remaining bit of capital. It's so adorable people thought a couple of Saul Goodman type ambulance chasers with no case had a chance against the Chicago Boyz at Katten. |
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Gavin's strength is his maturity and calm demeanor, imo. he'll win if it comes down to a battle.
Nope. Szatoshi will back Back and Maxwell. The cypherpunks will stick together (or hang separately). You should change your handle to 'FrappuccinoDoc.' |
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One way or another, this is going to happen. There's always been a certain inevitability about this
That's exactly what Hillary supporters said in 2008, and still say, to justify her coronation. But we're not going to just sit back and enjoy it. If Mircea is such a "crackpot" why does he have so many more Bitcons than you? I look forward to seeing how Gavinistas and Bitcoin Foundation fanboys handle MPEX's 'GavinCoin Short' response. |
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BTW, HF's "power hungry, obsolete, uncompetitive product" is still powering Icedrill's mines, which are in turn still paying me dividends. And of course you are loyally declaring these capital gains in your tax return, right? I would really not like to see you being narked out like CypherDoc about the BTC 3k he forgot to declare.... Icedrill didn't pay any me any dividends in 2014. Good luck with your Internet Tax Attorney concern trolling in the next tax year. But we're getting off topic. Let's go back to discussing how great the "let's sue a struggling start-up for more money than they have" strategy turned out. Result: instead of paying refunds, we've been paying a cast of ~20 lawyers to dance around and waste HF's last remaining bit of capital. It's so adorable people thought a couple of Saul Goodman type ambulance chasers with no case had a chance against the Chicago Boyz at Katten. |
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Bitcoin Core (meaning the implementation as opposed to the Bitcoin protocol, which has a UXTO set but doesn't require processing it in any particular way) does some special thing with the UXTO which I haven't studied specifically so I can't really comment.
Cryptonote doesn't have a UXTO since any output can be spent any number of times. As such all outputs are equal, and there is no special UXTO collection to become overgrown.
In the original cryptonote implementation they were all stored in memory which is obviously absurd. Monero stores them in a database which means they will need to be accessed from a disk, but any efficient database should be able to do these simple lookups efficiently other than the physical access time. Once Monero becomes heavily used that will likely require an SSD, but it seems with 10 TB SSDs possibly arriving within the next year or so the days of anything non-SSD for general purpose computing are likely numbered. Magnetic disks are the new magtape.
We may at some point impose a maximum age for outputs to be mixable (at which point they can be removed from the UXTO when spent, just like Bitcoin; to avoid losing untracability you would have to respend the outputs back to yourself prior to the deadline, or allow a wallet to do so automatically). That was considered for MRL-0004 but didn't quite make the cut because of some unresolved complications. That would allow nodes to operate with more limited storage, the way Bitcoin currently does. That's somewhat dangerous though (with both protocols) since there is nothing to ensure that a sufficient number of full archive nodes exist or don't become overloaded. At some point it may then become impossible or nearly impossible for new participants to do a full sync. So more work is needed there too (again with both protocols).
This is great! "No UXTO problem" is a feature important enough to be highlighted in the OP and investor/tech presentations. Monero is even more awesome than I thought. Thanks smooth! |
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Funny how Andresen creates this Paralysis situation and then dares to complain about it. That guy isn't right in the head, i can tell you that.
He has done more for the bitcoin community than you. Your achievements include trolling a bitcoin forum extolling the virtues of altcoins. Yes, Gavin has done a lot to embrace, extend, and extinguish Bitcoin. What has MP ever done? I mean, besides maintain a hack-free online exchange and rescue OpenBSD? |
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hey iCE, did u see ZB's link above; which i can't verify, btw: if there is a standing backlog, we-the-community of users look to indicators to gauge if the network is losing decentralization and then double the hard limit with proper controls to allow smooth adjustment without fees going to zero (see the past proposals for automatic block size controls that let miners increase up to a hard maximum over the median if they mine at quadratically harder difficulty), and we don't increase if it appears it would be at a substantial increase in centralization risk. /u/nullc is already backpedaling. and you know what happens next? Nobody (except MP) said "never ever increase the blocksize." The debate is over when/how. The proposal is in line with what gmax and others have been saying all along, and isn't "backpedaling." Is there a pill or treatment program available for people who can't calm down and stop exaggerating?  Smooth self-adjustment with properly aligned incentives, as opposed to sudden random jumps, is the preference of the non-Gavin core dev consensus. I don't know what happens next, and neither do you. Monero aside, a bloody civil war might set us back a bit. |
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