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581  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Radio? Bitcoin news daily? on: August 06, 2012, 04:38:21 AM
Alot of my posts get sent to offtopic i figured i saved my self the trouble, both those are great gestures mates! 
Ill continue this in an agile way and improve a little bit until theres something i find i should be consistant with.
582  Other / Off-topic / Re: Christians - is it fake ? on: August 06, 2012, 03:48:18 AM
Our perception is 100% consistent with reality because reality is all there is. The idea of an "inconsistency" with reality is meaningless.

Is it? what if we are assuming we are walking forward yet we are walking left. Would this kind of inconsistency be relevant? Imagine complex math formulas being formed around our inconsistent perception? Would explain why we can't find a "Formula for everything" because our perception(could be) inconsistent.

You stand with the suicide bombers and against reason. That's your choice, but I will condemn you for it as harshly as I can.
I'm sorry you feel that way but my beliefs and my actions are two separate things. Why do you condemn me instead of showing compassion for an open minded brother?
583  Other / Off-topic / Re: “Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to on: August 06, 2012, 03:31:57 AM
Yes id imagine that the molecules in your body would be inable to continue their normal process and the vibrational patterns would dissipate and your body would then break up(and dissolve) into the universe

Xenland you know I love you like a brother, but "vibrational patterns?" WTF?

Has anyone mentioned "entropy" yet?

I guess i went too quantum for you... Okay so basically when bacteria/organisms in your body can't get energy the molecules that make up the bacteria/oragnisms in your body them selves don't exchange energy and thus the vibrational patterns(energy exchange) to sustain creatures assistance will dissipate into the ground/air instead of pumping blood blood or filtering food or liquids.
584  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Radio? Bitcoin news daily? on: August 06, 2012, 03:28:58 AM
The next podcast has the following links included in it:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10819029
http://gizmodo.com/5927379/the-secret-online-weapons-store-thatll-sell-anyone-anything
http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/07/paypal-sets-down-stricter-regulations-for-file-sharing-sites/
http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/105649/bitcoins-are-back-least-porn-and-poker


MP3 Format: http://pipboy3000.com/podcast/2%20-%208-5-2012%208-01pm.mp3
OGG Format: http://pipboy3000.com/podcast/2%20-%208-5-2012%208-01pm.ogg
585  Other / Off-topic / Re: “Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to on: August 06, 2012, 02:40:23 AM
Yes id imagine that the molecules in your body would be inable to continue their normal process and the vibrational patterns would dissipate and your body would then break up(and dissolve) into the universe
586  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Radio? Bitcoin news daily? on: August 06, 2012, 02:38:43 AM
Any great out of the box casting software? (Auto file creation upon begin/end of stream)
587  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Radio? Bitcoin news daily? on: August 05, 2012, 10:44:42 PM

So this first podcast is going to sound awkward (as i listen back on it) but that might just be my own self conciounessness of listening to my own voice. Any who I was thinking of hosting it on my pipboy3000.com website just to help the future promotion of that domain but any who when its done uploaidng ill link it here and hope for the best.

you should get a shoutcast server (which you can have export to a file and make it a podcast) or set one up and irc channel I tune into that for maybe bitcoin news of the day, or just bitcoin related shows


I will look into setting up a shoutcast server for now I'll do uploads
588  Economy / Speculation / Re: What happens to Bitcoin when free energy is available? on: August 05, 2012, 08:43:16 PM
So the conclusion is physical space, and inital startup costs of "free" energy and assuming everything is usually costly that bitcoin diffuculty will raise slowly overtime. Causing basically no difference in supply and demand assuming miners are still receving block rewards(+transaction fees rewards). But if we are not recieving rewards and just transactions fee rewards then i guess with "free" energy bitcoins transactions would be inhertly unbreakable with free energy scince the whole world in theory could eventually aquire free energy over time and all help btc transactions.
589  Other / Off-topic / Re: Christians - is it fake ? on: August 05, 2012, 08:20:59 PM
I'm glad you mentioned science - science is limited to our limited observational perceptions (eyes, ears, touch, taste)
Basically, you've just said that science is limited to gathering information through all of the means we have of gathering information. That doesn't sound like a limit to me.

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don't we have to prove that our perceptions are exactly how we perceive them before we can prove science and all its decades of accumulative knowledge is truth?
Our perceptions are, by definition, how we perceive them. There's nothing to prove.

An "erroneous perception" is an oxymoron. Say, hypothetically, I could actually have an erroneous perception. In that case, the erroneous perception would be accurately reporting to me the true fact that I'm actually having that particular erroneous perception. Hence it wouldn't be erroneous at all. An "erroneous perception" is a self-contradiction.

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With this in mind, how can any worldview be established if you can't prove that your perception/experience/accumulative knowledge is real/truth/unbreakable axioms to begin with?
A "false perception" is impossible. If I had a false perception, it would be the actual truth that I was having a false perception. The false perception would accurately report this fact to me. The accuracy of perception is axiomatic and definitional.

A mountain appears small when you are far away from it. But this is not a perceptual error, it is a perceptual fact. If a mountain appeared the same size no matter how far you were from it, then it would be in error, hiding from me the actual fact that mountains appear small when you are far away from them. Our perceptions are just as much a part of reality as everything else and how our perceptions work and what they mean are just as much subjects of study and analysis as everything else.

But let's assume you're right. Let's assume our senses are somehow fundamentally broken. Let's assume all of our reasoning is wrong. Let's assume everything we sense is somehow unreal and erroneous. What would that change? Would that mean anyone was perfectly justified in believing anything they want and acting on it? Would that make all actions, eating food or eating poison, equally good and valid?

If our perception was wrong then we would have to (with trial and error) integrate with machines that can accurately translate true perception to our brains, and then at that point atheists, religious, spiritual people will have to start over with a true reality to perceive. I realise that our perception is usually 100% consistent with our waking reality but that doesn’t mean we are able to observe everything accurately(For example see every spectrum of light/sound, quantum world, other worlds that can possibly contain higher consciousness).

I'm not trying to prove faith is correct, I guess I'm just trying to point out that any way of life is flawed until we can prove that our perception is actually 100% consistent with math and science. For what its worth I am a solphist with technoshaminisic beliefs, In other words I can't prove I exist as a identity(Xenland) but I can prove that experience exists' through pain and psychoactive(Food, water, chemicals, everything is a psychoactive to me).


and I could be an exception but growing up as a Christian in a Christian home with Christian (big) family, I can see how some people are prone to say "God makes it that way" and just not care about why it happens, and others like my self are prone to say "But why did god make it that way?" -- There all types of different people, i don't think the bible or religion keeps anyone under a persons finger, from my experience some people just don't want to learn why things work the way they do, some would rather leave it to god to deal with(Aka the quantum world to react with your intentions) and some like my self would rather leave it to god to deal with and learn why god deals with it that way(aka Ask why the quantum world reacts with our intentions).


I probably sound like a nut, but to me religion and science are the same they just haven't reached a human singularity of conclusions just yet.
590  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Radio? Bitcoin news daily? on: August 05, 2012, 07:54:41 PM
Here is the first podcast skip to 60 seconds in to start hearing talking.
MP3 Format: http://pipboy3000.com/podcast/1%20-%208-4-2012%208-23pm-edited.mp3
Ogg Format: http://pipboy3000.com/podcast/1%20-%208-4-2012%208-23pm-edited.ogg

591  Other / Off-topic / Re: Christians - is it fake ? on: August 05, 2012, 06:31:19 AM
Reffering to brunic and myrkulS reponeses
592  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Radio? Bitcoin news daily? on: August 05, 2012, 05:36:03 AM
So this first podcast is going to sound awkward (as i listen back on it) but that might just be my own self conciounessness of listening to my own voice. Any who I was thinking of hosting it on my pipboy3000.com website just to help the future promotion of that domain but any who when its done uploaidng ill link it here and hope for the best.
593  Other / Off-topic / Re: Christians - is it fake ? on: August 05, 2012, 05:28:48 AM
My mind = Blown
594  Economy / Speculation / Re: What happens to Bitcoin when free energy is available? on: August 05, 2012, 03:43:15 AM
This topic has a good point and it's  being ruined by SCIENCE.

What happens when power is cheap to the point that you can run an overclocked GPU for a penny a year? That was what the question should have been as it's actually a good question. Does the value of bitcoin drop or does the price of the GPU back it then? And if so, what happens when the CPUs, GPUs and ASICs that "crack" those "passwords" are manufactured for $1 per minirig? What happens to Bitcoin and the network?
Yeah exactly what i was trying to ask thanks for clearing that up matt.
595  Other / Off-topic / Re: Christians - is it fake ? on: August 05, 2012, 03:29:24 AM
So im confused... not to be offensive but isn't the idea of an atheist just really laziness with an excuse?

On the contrary, an atheist applies the scientific method to his entire world-view. That includes religion, and since he cannot replicate a burning bush, or other deific manifestations, he declares the theory "there is a god" to be unprovable.

I'm glad you mentioned science - science is limited to our limited observational perceptions (eyes, ears, touch, taste) don't we have to prove that our perceptions are exactly how we perceive them before we can prove science and all its decades of accumulative knowledge is truth?

With this in mind, how can any worldview be established if you can't prove that your perception/experience/accumulative knowledge is real/truth/unbreakable axioms to begin with?


References:
Proof doesn't equal truth
http://digipac.ca/chemical/proof/index.htm

596  Other / Off-topic / Re: Christians - is it fake ? on: August 05, 2012, 03:09:13 AM
The thing i have a problem with athiesm is that its just basically anti-everything considering its not a philosophy, or a view point or a practice or anything its just "anti-" everything really...I don't really understand the point of declaring your self anti-everything, sounds like pure rebellion but then again their is no view point or atheism or philosophy so by definition its not rebellion its just "not" religious/spiritual practice,but in action athiests seem to just be rebal against everything(even though I have heard some athiests mention Altruism, i've never heard an atheist declare a anything that would back up any thoughts on how atheism is purely to condone to altruism scince that is no inline with their beliefs considering they don't believe in anything or have any practices or agree with culture)
All atheists necessarily have in common is a lack of belief in a deity. But if there were an overriding philosophy behind atheism, it would be this: Almost all of the world's major religions have in common the doctrine of faith -- that people should believe things in the absence of any rational justification and then act on those beliefs. The problem is that there is no rational way to decide what to believe and act on in the absence of any rational justification -- rationally, one belief is equal to another if they both have no rational justification.

I have no rational justification for believing that god wants me to be a good person. I have equally no rational justification for believing that god wants me to kill you. If you accept the doctrine that belief without rational justification is permissible and one should act on those beliefs, you are equally justifying the terrorist who chooses to believe god wants him to kill people as you are the Jew who chooses to believe god wants him to help his fellow men.

That is what atheism stands against, to the extent it stands against anything.


Very informative, and now I understand atheism at its core. Obviously I can read an neutral article on Wikipedia but nothing works like a one on one explanation.
So basically the only way an atheist will become to accept that their is a power that tends to the reality we live in is to experience a presence of deity by some means of sensory perception(seeing, hearing, or feeling a deity). I see that as counter-intuitive as there could be a possibility that no organism is able to scan or process an deity physically with out the creation of such machines to process such information; Maybe a machine out there could look at the deity in visual form and possibly process the infinite knowledge and wisdom in some manner that physical beings could understand, yet the "lack of proof" made all of humanity not invest in such devices because there is no proof.

So im confused... not to be offensive but isn't the idea of an atheist just really laziness with an excuse? ( Begin Rehtorical questions) Why try if it isn't already there? Why obtain water if it only exists in a seemingly unobtainable situation? (End rhetorical questions)

597  Other / Off-topic / Re: Christians - is it fake ? on: August 04, 2012, 11:53:14 PM
The thing i have a problem with athiesm is that its just basically anti-everything considering its not a philosophy, or a view point or a practice or anything its just "anti-" everything really...I don't really understand the point of declaring your self anti-everything, sounds like pure rebellion but then again their is no view point or atheism or philosophy so by definition its not rebellion its just "not" religious/spiritual practice,but in action athiests seem to just be rebal against everything(even though I have heard some athiests mention Altruism, i've never heard an atheist declare a anything that would back up any thoughts on how atheism is purely to condone to altruism scince that is no inline with their beliefs considering they don't believe in anything or have any practices or agree with culture)

So questions are going to be flawed when you compare it to stuff that is "anti-anti-" of atheism

http://www.atheism-analyzed.net/Atheist%20Talking%20Points%20what%20is%20atheism.htm
A good link i think that clears up meh thoughts
598  Other / Off-topic / Re: memorydealers guy: how are you doing? on: August 04, 2012, 08:07:24 PM
Bitcoinica... 24k BTC(or is it 26k?)... You know...

I believe 24k was stated somewhere.

Though honestly, "recent" wouldn't have been the term I would have used.

I think thats what threw me off as well was the word recent but dang that is quite the loss.
599  Other / Off-topic / Re: Spherical Keyboard to prevent carpal tunnel on: August 04, 2012, 06:48:35 AM
XD really?

Thinking about it... I'm really sick of putting my wrists in cold water all the time...
600  Other / Off-topic / Re: Christians - is it fake ? on: August 04, 2012, 05:38:30 AM
so far heard of atheists and non-Christians etc.. where are the Christians ?

I want to discuss other videos too with Christians and figure out trinity and what they think of the conversions
Perhaps you were confused and thought this was a Christian forum?  If you want to hold a discussion with Christians, you would be better off posting your thoughts to a Christian forum.  This forum is a good place to post if you want to hold a discussion with people active in the Bitcoin community.

I don't think he was confused, I think perhaps it was specifically targeted to Bitcoin community Christians or probably pulled a Xenland and was too lazy to join another forum and learn new rules and other social posting etiquette and instead posted in the off-topic forum... works everytime.
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