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581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 07, 2024, 08:46:15 PM
I think Mourinho already achieved more with Roma than he had in his mind when he came here but his desire is still to win Scudetto with Roma as this team kinda forgot how it feels to become champions and same goes for the other team Lazio ....because somehow neither of these two has won Serie A in the last decade... . However , I think Roma needs some fresh players here and there in order to have a proper team who could fight for title next year but until then they need to find a way to save this season and catch at least a top 6 for European spots ( even if it is Conference League it will be great for them ).  Cool
Mourinho done good job with available sources even winning Scudetto is not coming even in next season because we have lack of funds which are hurting few clubs, and they are not able to do things which are important for them like Lazio is having second round of Champions League but their current performance in not good, and they are not near for having chance of staying into top five like Roma which are also slipping and with lack of consistency and quality.

Roma having good coach but their consistency and quality are still problem which needs few quality players and this needs funds with are not available for these few teams and these are fail to keep their spot at the top now it's time for them to think and regroup themselves for having better results in UEFA with Roma can go for another final even it's not easy, but all opportunities are possible for them.
582  Economy / Gambling / Re: What do you want to see in casino reviews? on: January 07, 2024, 08:06:22 PM
You could actually be right and also be wrong to an extent, we cannot perfectly predict on reviews received on the internet, but as a matter of fact, we can also consider the ones here as being honest because they are being reviewed by most trusted members of the forum and the gambling platforms are taking them seriously to effectively implement all that had been observed or introduced.
Well, I like that approach, if you wish to play in a casino and check it out just register and do it. But what is good about casino reviews is that we can get familiar with some casino features and rules before we register and start reading ToS and looking at what kind of promotions & bonuses and wagering requirements. A good casino review site has all that in one place, it can save us some time and money...

We have a good casino review site here on the forum, Efi is a trusted member of this community who has huge gambling experience.
Reviews are undoubtedly helpful if they are available about casinos that you are willing to use, but when it comes to newly launched casinos and platforms, you can't find reviews about them sometimes which is why it becomes difficult for you to understand how they are unless you create an account with them, make a small deposit and check them out yourself. This way, you will see how the casino is and then you can provide your review or feedback to the community so that others can know as well. After all, it's our responsibility as a community member to make our contribution.

Reviews and feedback from forum members are much better than the ones we see in external review platforms and websites, the website being managed by efi is extra-ordinary, he is doing a great job, no doubt about that, but I'm talking about other websites where most of the reviews and feedback are fake or biased.
583  Economy / Gambling / Re: Which Casino and Sportsbook have the best UI? Which others can improve? on: January 06, 2024, 12:16:53 PM
Wanted everyone's opinion about which Casino and Sportsbook have the best UI. What is their best feature and which casino and sportsbook do you like but want to see improvement when it comes to UI or features?

UI means User interface.
User Interface is undoubtedly one of the most important things for a platform whether it's about their web app or other apps such as mobile, desktop, etc. When you visit a website or open an app, the very first thing that you see is the UI, and believe it or not, as they say, the first impression is the last, and if the UI isn't top-notch and doesn't impress you, you will barely have any interest in trying out the website or the platform, in this case, the casino.

However, when we talk about casino platforms, functionality along with UI is what most users look for, which means that one might be impressed by the UI but won't bother leaving the platform if they find that the platform doesn't offer the best services such as customer support, smooth scrolling, and lag-free games.

If I were to name the best casinos based on their UIs, I would say Rollbit and Stake are the best in this area.
584  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: It will save your capital more than you can imagine on: January 06, 2024, 06:12:43 AM
Cutting your losses will create an advantage if you are trading using leverage, that is to limit your losses so you won't lose a huge amount that you can't afford losing. However, if you only trade just a small amount, I think cutting your losses is not that essential. You can trade and lose your small capital, and that's okay. You can still trade again when you're able and capable enough, as despite of your losses, you are also learning as well.
So in doing leverage trades, we can't also be able to use a small amount of capital? If it's also possible then, we can just go with the flow as well, because like you said, we can still learn a valuable lesson with it.

But some can stop doing it, if they think they are not good with it, because a small amount can still stack, and that will still result for a larger amount. Other than trading a small amount, many traders are also not doing a cut loss or a stop loss when they trade on spot. But they just choose to wait for the prices to bounce back. I think for those who are less confident or beginners on it, they can still choose to do it. Only to be safe.
585  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Safety first before accumulation, a lesson I learnt the hard way on: January 05, 2024, 06:48:43 PM
I would say that though hardware wallets are way safer and more secure than software wallets, it depends on a person's nature and how careful they are with their funds, wallets, and private keys so that no one manages to get access to their funds. A Careless person will always make mistakes that make their wallets easily vulnerable to getting attacked by those who are always looking for such opportunities so that they get to have access to someone's wallet and steal their funds.

So, it depends on your ability to safeguard your funds because some people might manage to keep their assets safe even if they don't have a hardware wallet. And, some may not be able to protect their assets even if they have them stored in a hardware wallet because their private keys can still get leaked if they are careless by nature.
586  Economy / Economics / Re: How is it possible to say there is no money in the bank on: January 05, 2024, 06:23:35 PM
Almost everyone knows what happens to a saving holders when he goes to the bank to withdraw his own money and doesn't get the money. My question is how much trust can I place with money hard earned money if I don't get it when I need it? This thread may be instructive for those planning to keep money in the bank for the long term.

Nowadays people do not want any third party intervention in their financial affairs. And this opportunity exists only on crypto platforms. Especially those who want to save money for long term. Here an investor will get an opportunity to save money as well as increase his savings by investing here. Centralized platform for money is never completely secure. The government of any country can harm the common investors by enacting any law if wants. so alternative measures must be taken to avoid the risk.
No I don't know what happens to our money in the bank after we deposit it but they have a reason on why they can't release our money by the time we demand it from them. I know it's annoying and it's a turn-off to that bank, but maybe our views to other or all of the banks are going to be the same with them. Not all knows about cryptos and not all who knows it will really care at all if it's decentralized or not.

Most decentralized cryptos are volatile so I won't say that they are good for saving money. For investing maybe. Centralized platforms can be secure in a way that hackers will have a hard time penetrating them but maybe not really secure, as some can use or ran away with our money.
587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: January 04, 2024, 06:03:53 PM
Afghanistan under 19 team could not give enough runs target. Afghanistan were under a lot of pressure after losing wickets early on and were eventually bowled out for 88 runs. The bowling of India U19 team is really commendable. Naman Tiwari bowled brilliantly taking 4 important wickets with 11 runs in 7 overs. A target of 89 runs was not a good enough target for the ODI format. India U19 chased down a target of 89 runs in just 13 overs to win by a huge margin of 9 wickets. Congratulations to the India U19 team.
India are unbeaten so far in the trination series between Afghanistan U19 South Africa U19 and India U19. India have won all three of the first three matches and with 100% wins in three matches they have earned 6 points and these six points have put them at the number one position in the points table. Afghanistan U19 team has won only one match and their number of points is 2 and they are number two in the table with these two points but South Africa have played two matches so far but they have not seen any win. India will be the first favorite team for this series and from my side I will put Afghanistan ahead as the second favorite team as Afghanistan U19 team is doing quite well now compared to South Africa U19 team.
Indian cricketing future is bright with their system is doing good job and have good structure which is allowing these youngsters to do good from their early days which help them for having better results in this event we have both opposite teams are not good enough to handle this all and losing matches badly today as things were going I was expecting Afghanistan will be not able to score 50 runs but at the end they have done good job and reach at 88 Nazeer Hassan and Sohail Khan Zurmati were the main scorer for them Naman Tiwari were the main destroyer for them in this match in reply India chase this target very easily with the lost of just one wicket and Adarsh Singh hit quick fifty for the winning team.
588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: January 03, 2024, 08:28:24 PM
Pakistan scored 313 all out in the first innings, giving Australia a huge target. Pakistan batsmen Aamer Jamal and Rizwan both played brilliantly, which is why Pakistan team managed to score such a big score today. However, in the second innings, the Australian team came into the field with the aim of meeting the target given by Pakistan and two experienced batsmen at the crease. If the Australian team can perform as well as the first two tests, then they will definitely be able to fulfill the target given by Pakistan and give a huge lead. Australia team has collected 6 runs at the moment but still 307 behind Pakistan, so Australia will have to perform well to win the match against Pakistan.
The captain of the Pakistan test team was out with a common out, the ball was given by Marsh and it was swung Shan Masood tried to hit the ball to his bat, and it touched but the ball hit on the edge of Masood's bat, and after touching the ball was gone in the hands of Smith who present in the slip to catch a ball and he picked easily catch of Shan Masood, and when ball touched on the bat and gone at the slip Shan Masood turned back to see on the back that it caught or not and it caught but Masood was not happy with it.
Most of the time Australian bowlers never done hard work for having wickets of Pakistani batsmen so same happen in today's play as they have gone bowling on good line and length and Pakistani batsmen done usual mistakes which bring mockery of them, and they lost their wickets regularly while they were at 47 for 4 I was expecting they will be able to score nearly 150 to 180 but Mohammad Rizwan and Jamal done amazing stuff and bring their score at 313 which is amazing stuff specially from Jamal who came to bat at the 9th number and use his head with the help of Mir Hamza and bring score from 227 to 313 in 22 overs which is another milestone for these tail enders, but Pat Cummins is surely going to be one of the best in Australian cricket history as he takes 3rd consecutive five wickets hauls.
589  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: X-Cash on: January 03, 2024, 05:22:23 PM
Those with decent jobs should not waste time with these new projects. Their strategy should be to invest in top 50 market cap coins only. You have to pick from those 50 based on which ones have got price corrected at right time. If possible, keep accumulating on all major drops. Like whenever I see market correcting by 10-20% in a week, I see an upward movement of same amount the following week. This is because other investors are also looking for same opportunities.
People who invest in new projects or new cryptocurrencies often do it because they think such coins can provide higher profits in a shorter period which is true on some occasions but it doesn't always work that way because many projects fail miserably, and some die before gaining much value, some don't even make it into the market and die only during the development phase and every single person that has bought their tokens in a public or private token sale lose their money.

Some people also think that a coin that has a low market cap has a higher probability of providing higher returns which isn't true. The market cap of a coin or a token depends on its current price and it doesn't indicate anything for the future. A meme coin might not have a very high market cap but it has the potential to provide great returns, sometimes.
590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 03, 2024, 01:04:54 PM
I saw that after failing in the Champions League, Newcastle's condition was getting worse and it was very difficult for them to perform optimally to win the match. If you look at the number of players who have suffered injuries, it is true, as you said, that it is not surprising that Newcastle are again disappointing. If this does not change, Newcastle's condition will become even more difficult and it is possible that they will be further left behind at the bottom of the standings.
It is predictable because Newcastle United just have their first season in Champions League after some decades. They don't have experience to decentralize their resources for Premier League and Champions League. From coach, staffs to players, they all dont' have this experience and it's no surprise to see they tried hard in Champions League, failed there while they got some consequences for Premier League like low ranking and some player injuries.
Newcastle Unites was doing good job but suddenly as they have few injuries and suspension of the Tanoli this give them big shock with things are going from bad to worse for them in last few days, and they are dropping points frequently in early rounds they were right on their target and things were completely favourable but suddenly as fans were expecting they achieve more than expectations they lost their points and form which bring them down in Premier League and also having early exit from the Champions League.

Eddie Howe is currently under pressure with his job is also under threat even most chances Saudis will not take any quick decision and will wait for the end of this season with improvement option is still available, but now it's time for them to act quickly and create chances for their best result in coming matches even now challenges are tough but still achievable for them.
591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 03, 2024, 11:28:05 AM
Joao Felix is really struggling in the La Liga. He has been given chances after chances but he cannot be seen to do things right. Barcelona have match against Las Palmas coming up and they better win tomorrow. They are already falling behind in the top 4 race and are only 3 points ahead of the 5th placed team. Now what they need to do is start winning the matches does not matter how.

The Atletico Madrid and Girona match will be what I will be looking forward to tomorrow. The match is going to be super hype. What I will be looking forward to is how Girona will react to their first place getting snatched away by Real Madrid. If they can keep the consistency, it is good. But if they cannot due to their morale being down, it is not good.
Things are as of now not favourable for the João Félix and Barcelona just because of this we are not having better results from and look like we will have some changes in coming days with after break now they need to work hard for staying at the better spot otherwise they can face consequences which are never been good Athletic Bilbao and Real Sociedad having good time and trying to chase fourth spot as Atlético Madrid and Barcelona on same level just goals difference allowing Atlético to stay at third, but now both teams are going to face tough matches which can make some changes into league table.

João Félix needs to be had some better with his performance as currently Barcelona needs good performance and consistency otherwise things can go from this point to down if they are not able to give their best and also not having positive results.
592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 03, 2024, 08:36:06 AM
I assume that two things might be wrong with the Napoli team. The first one is that they have failed to hire the best coach that suits the club's standard as defending champions. The two coaches that have been hired since the departure of Luciano Spalletti have not had any positive impact on the club. Rudi Garcia and Walter Mazzarri are average coaches who have never won any major competition.

Another reason might be the failure of the club management to buy new players that would have fortified the team. The poor performance of Khvicha Kvaratskhelia and the injury problems of Victor Osimhen are having a bad impact on the club because the club is still relying on these two players. Napoli should Invest money in some players this January and at least Walter Mazzarri will have more options in case of injuries or suspensions.
I agree about first point as they fail to bring any quality coach after exit of Luciano Spalletti and having Ruid Garcia and now Mazzarri both were not up to their and Serie A standard for Napoli which is surely hurting them, but their players are good enough and their performance in early games were also very good, but suddenly we have serious problem for them which hurting them, and now they are out of touch which is needed for the staying at the top level Victor Osimhen is having injury problems and TikTok from the Napoli club media team also bring down moral which are main problems for them, and now they are fail to recover from this all.

Now they needed to have new start with any quality coach because Mazzarri is having nothing from here and team could be gone deeper so with this current situation most chances we will have exit of Victor Osimhen as well in coming days which will create more problems for the club.
593  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin - Contentment / Addiction on: January 02, 2024, 08:11:11 PM
There is no satisfaction in owning Bitcoin as long as you can buy it using money that has been allocated for investment, not money for daily needs. Achieving satisfaction with bitcoin is of course when we have bought bitcoin in large quantities by buying at the time of the dip.
When it comes to satisfaction, it actually depends on the person, because for me the satisfaction of people who buy Bitcoin is when they buy it with money they are prepared to lose. Doing dca on bitcoin continuously is not an addiction, because in my opinion what is called bitcoin addiction is when we cannot control the purchase of bitcoin, even by going into debt and selling other assets just for bitcoin, in other words we force ourselves to own bitcoin.
None of what you said are enough reasons to make a human satisfied with what they have because a human can barely be satisfied with money no matter how much it is. You can't find a lot of people in the world who are completely satisfied with what they have and aren't striving to get more. Even the rich, the ultra-rich, and the billionaires are still working to increase their wealth and earn more money because it's human nature, we never get satisfied.

When we talk about Bitcoin, Bitcoin is another form of money and wealth, and it's no exception to human nature. So when you have a specific amount of Bitcoin, you will still strive to have more because you would want to have as many as possible, you will never say no to more when it comes to money.
594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 02, 2024, 07:46:43 PM
Now Mbappe will definitely not be able to leave PSG because he has a contract until the end of the season, but he can already start negotiating with other clubs. I read the latest news today that Liverpool wants to get Mbappe, I don’t know if this is true (as the French publication Le Parisien claims), but it seems that Real is still the number one contender. I don't think PSG will try to stop him, they will get big money for Mbappe and it looks like they are already looking for his replacement.
maybe Mbappe stay at PSG can help his team win the UCL title (even though it's impossible) but the fact is that PSG will still have difficulty if they only rely on Mbappe because they are not strong enough if they only rely on one player without having a solid line up. meanwhile, to be able to win a title at UCL you have to have strong cooperation, whereas PSG doesn't have solid cooperation for me.

regarding Mbappe move in january, he won't be moving, but if PSG keeps him until June, it looks like he will leave as a free agent and PSG will suffer a loss if he leaves as a free agent.
Your statement is perfect about Mbappé and PSG with most chances we will have his exit from here in June and then PSG will look for the other options and currently their main target is better results in Champions League even with just one player it's not possible to win, but they need to establish a team which give them better approach for this and it's never been easy because it's time-consuming work and management needs to give time for this if they fire coaches in every one or two years then surely they will be not able to win this.

Here I also agreed about this most chances he will leave as free agent and this could be big lost for the PSG and good gain for the club which is going to be able having contract with him with nothing is sure about this because I have feeling now Real Madrid fans will be not happy with him after his two U-turns in the past.
595  Economy / Economics / Re: Sometimes tips the securities at the mall or local shops on: January 02, 2024, 06:50:36 PM
I haven't worked as a security before, but from my observations, I would say the securities are really doing a pretty good job. Securing whatever we go to the mall, we keep an eye on shoplifters to avoid thefts and nuisances. Personally, I am scared of that kind of job because you have to sign an agreement that stipulates that anything could happen while you are on duty, and only your family will be compensated on your behalf if it eventually leads to death. But i see those guys do their jobs with passion and happiness.

Tipping people at low-level jobs is a good thing, however, I've never seen anyone tipping a security guard nor have I ever heard that one can do that, I've seen it with waiters/waitresses and other jobs holders where they are underpaid for the level of work they need to do and you feel pity for them and you give them a tip. But, I do agree that it's not easy to be a security guard, not because the job is difficult but because it's dangerous as anything can happen at any given time.

As said by some other members as well, I've heard and seen on a lot of occasions where the security guard doesn't do much when there is either an attempted robbery or thievery or anything of that sort. I've heard that most of the guards are given empty guns/armor just to scare people away and they aren't always allowed to use them.
596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 02, 2024, 04:45:11 PM
Many people's expectations of Newcastle are too high, so when they experience a decline in performance due to existing problems, it is very noticeable and becomes a lot of discussion and news.
In my opinion, what happened to the Newcastle team is quite normal and a decline in a team's performance because several of their main players suffered injuries is a common thing that other players also experience, but how Eddie Howe was able to bring this team out of its existing problems is something that worth waiting for.
From what Eddie Howe has done so far, since his arrival in charge of the Newcastle team, I think he will also be able to bring Newcastle back from this downturn, I don't doubt that.
I was also expecting very good season for them after their first end in top 4 but suddenly injuries and suspension of Tanoli hurt them badly even they are down but still doing reasonable job currently they are second-worst club with their last five matches performance just one win and 4 loses but no one can give any positive response on this performance even now we have serious talk about sack of Eddie Howe which is also doing good job in these conditions, but owners are not happy, and they are looking for the replacement which is surely not ideal thing because they need to give him chance with having some transfer of players in January as well because still this team can give better results.

After break, they are having match against Manchester City which is surely not easy, but I still want management to keep faith in his abilities and allow him to stay until end of this season because he is a man of vision and can do good fightback in coming weeks.
597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 02, 2024, 10:24:51 AM
A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?
I am the type of person who barely believes others, especially when there are finances involved. You can't make a financial decision just because someone else told you something that might work and you might get money out of their suggestion. It's never a good thing to follow someone else's suggestions or advice when you don't have much of an idea about what they are suggesting unless you know what they are suggesting and you also think it is going to work out.

When it comes to two things, cryptocurrency trading, and sports betting, one should never believe others and make their trades and bets according to their predictions because the results might not always be pleasing. So, please do your research and make your financial decisions yourself instead of letting someone else do that.
598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Terra LUNA revival Imminent on: January 02, 2024, 05:49:53 AM
$AVAX pumped from $9 to $50
$SOL pumped from $8 to $120
$INJ pumped from $1.10 to $45
$FET pumped from $0.05c to $0.75c
$LINK pumped from $4.90 - $17.00
Bitcoin $BTC was dead at $15,500 now see🔥
Now they are saying $LUNC $LUNA is__

Expect the UNEXPECTED

Station V3 and massive launches coming in January 2024
None of the coins and tokens you've mentioned have an extremely high supply or have faced what LUNA faced last year, and if you are still expecting it to recover from where it is right now, you are daydreaming and you should wake yourself up from it.

You can't expect LUNC to gain a substantial value as long as they don't drastically reduce the total and circulating supply and they can't do it just like that. Their experiment to create an algorithmic stablecoin with UST failed them miserably and the project now has no more value than a meme coin in the market.

Most people are using the coins and tokens of Terra to gain short-term profits just like how they use meme coins.
599  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make money on cryptocurrencies without investment? on: January 01, 2024, 01:09:02 PM
I'm just a newbie and I don't have other opportunities to make money irl because of my place of living and age. I tried already bounties and airdrops, but I'm not lucky in it.
I suggest you to learn more about the potential earning in this forum. It is not only to get money from airdrop and bounty. You can earn money by following the signature campaign paid in BTC if you want to grow your account rank. You can offer services on the "services board" if you have ability such as promoting a crypto project on your YT channel, Telegram, Site, or any other social media channels. But your social media channels must have many followers to ensure that the promotion of crypto project will have sufficient potential to bring impacts to the project. Or you also can join the contests provided by Hhampuz or other bounty managers in this forum. And another way is trading, you can earn money from trading as well. So, you don't need to rely on the investment, bounty, or airdrop only.
In most bounties, there is also a signature campaign there, although they are only paying in altcoins and tokens. To grow a forum account, it is indeed that we need an activity and it can mostly be done by posting. Other than that, we need a merit.

We can get it when we post meaningful contents. Contest is a bit tricky. You will need a skill and luck here, but if we will enjoy the process, we won't totally feel bad even if we lose. You have given trading there, but I'm not sure if he will like it, because he don't also like investing, and both of them have a similarity. One of it is, we will be needing a capital, and trading was in fact much harder than investing.
600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: January 01, 2024, 07:21:42 AM
I wasn't talking about different generations here, I am ok with different generations competing with each other. But I don't like the comparison between players who play in totally different environments and under totally different conditions. I know that this statistic is counting goals globally and all players from all leagues are compared, but that's where this statistic lacks meaning as there is a huge difference whether Haaland breaks a record in the Premier League or Ronaldo breaks a record in the Saudi Professional League.
I do agree with it. I think that it's not even considering the difficulty of any league. I meant that comparison was just meaningless here. The comparison only considered SPL from the Asian continent, despite the fact that the majority of it actually comes from the European continent.
I can't even put SPL to have the same difficulty as premier league. It's amazing ronaldo to scores a lot in the saudi pro league but let's back to the when ronaldo was playing for manchester united in the premier league.

He created 18 goals from 30 matches on MU in 21 - 22, 1 goal from 10 matches in 22-23. The author failed to take into account the challenges of any league and instead, solely focused on the number of goals scored by players in their respective competitions.
It makes that comparison being so meaningless. It's not a fair comparison.
Even few things are cleared but still we need to stop these comparisons because these are never been ideal for any player everyone is playing with his comfort zone so if he is achieving records it's all about his fitness and performance so comparing with others is not ideal at all just go ahead with these statics and enjoy the game is best option Cristiano Ronaldo is 38 years old with Eric Haaland is 22 and both are completely in different worlds for their play with different conditions and level of competitiveness is also completely different for these both players if we have Haaland fit as he is currently then surely in near future we will have many records in front of his name as well but no one can prediction about anything with injury and other problems can ruin anything with Cristiano Ronaldo is surely one of the best we have no many like him in recent times.
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