+1000000

Just want to confirm that the xnodes seem to be working as expected. I have sent a transaction from one wallet to another through the xnodes and in reviewing the transaction on either end cannot see the sending or receiving address. The block explorer is still down and when it gets back I will check it out further with it.

One thing I noticed is the normal fee is added to the sending transaction. The anon fee which is 0.00001 is then subtracted from the amount sent. So the receiver gets the amount sent - 0.00001. Might we want to have this fee included in the amount so the receiving end gets the full amount sent?

I know the above is a very small concern. The key is the nodes are running and my trans action went through without a hitch. I know Atcsecure is going to give us more info tomorrow but thought this was great news and should be shared.

Great work by the dev!


edit: This was on the live network, with real funds, sent to and from non xnode wallets

who can tell me ? if i close wallet i will get confirms my transaction ?

<carebeer> the question is ( i have not read upon this yet) but how does the algorithm for getting tx traffic looks like? how do you become a trusted node?
<ATCSECURE> okay so the answer is 2 fold
<ATCSECURE> it is a learning dynamic algorithm
<ATCSECURE> you become trusted by completing transactions
<ATCSECURE> the wallet learns based on experience
<ATCSECURE> the fee percentage though will be fixed between 2 values
<ATCSECURE> and adjust based on trust weight
<ATCSECURE> also the wallet splits across multiple xnodes
<carebeer> fair enough.. fixed between lower and upper sounds good
<ATCSECURE> measures the results
<ATCSECURE> builds a table
<ATCSECURE> this is NOT in REV1
<ATCSECURE> REV1 is trustless
<ATCSECURE> today's release is mainnet - w/ xnode
<ATCSECURE> it will be used to collect addition data to feed back into the coding loop
<ATCSECURE> because of the dynamics of the new protocol, which communites limited information between xnodes
<ATCSECURE> communicates*
<inmymem> I say a fixed fee since the transaction gets split and the way it is split is random
<inmymem> so an equal reward is better so it is not left to luck who gets more if one gets a larger chunk of the split transaction
<carebeer> ATCSECURE: well percetage is cool. then there is an incentive to run a more "weighted" node. the problem that i have seen is that in NXT for example, there have not been any reason for running a node if you dont got a shit loads of funds
<carebeer> imho
<carebeer> the nodes are the currency
<carebeer> without them you loose stability and performance
<carebeer> and the more nodes we got, the better anon multipath works
<carebeer> as i understand it
<ATCSECURE> carebeer - so yes correct
<inmymem> But the trust system needs to be weighted in and I would say even add something of the likes of “coin age” so that people will be inclined to keep it running
<ATCSECURE> it is incentive based,
<ATCSECURE> thus the dynamic fee algo
<carebeer> sounds good
<ATCSECURE> inmymem - yes that will also play a factor
<carebeer> can you somehow manipulate the protocol and send spoofed data?
<carebeer> so that you get more tx?
<ATCSECURE> carebeer - no
<carebeer> ok
<kaene> time of today's wallet release?
<ATCSECURE> release is tonight
<kaene> boston timezone?
<ATCSECURE> yes
<kaene> ok, thanks
<ATCSECURE> sure n/p

This is why the XC dev has already done what took the DRK dev months.

In fact if XC dev can get this working properly this will actually be superior to DRK.

Anything the XC dev can outsource to someone else eg testnet, DNS seeder etc, he is doing so... which means he can spend more time on the code.

ok right. I had to format ssd, install windown .... wallet file is saved by mistake. bat

I didn't say atcsecure was working on this coin.

x11coin is worked on by many more people than just atcsecure/Dan. x11coin started as a scam coin and has been turned into something much better, worked by atcsecure and others.

I've worked with the NEW x11coin team, as I said. Now please, go back to fighting DRK instead. Cryptcoin is not your enemy.

Yes, I have been working on new features. Anon send is the holy grail in crypto right now and no coin has properly implemented yet.

We have been working with x11coin team closely as they seem to have the solution that can come soonest.

 

and I'm not working on any other alt-coins either.  This constant stream of FUD is just crazy

He is right now, look at the charts..

Does XC really have an anonymous wallet too?

Thx for information.

Small new XC article :

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/2014/5/31/rumour-killer-xc-source-code-is-not-a-fedoracoin-clone#

Please share

So some useful update will be in 3 weeks - the xnode official release?

My wallet does not sync It keep saying " ~1671 block remaining" for 2 hours

No, dont buy into Polycoins web of lies.  Just take a look at his profile.

Sorry if I upset anyone, I didn't mean to. The point is that the peer review would be more reliable if it was done by an independent, as someone has already offered to pay for, rather than someone who is already friends with those being reviewed and their other friends.

Hello.

I was invited to check the implementation of XC compared to FedoraCoin's codebase in order to find possible similarities between them.
First of all, I visited FedoraCoin's repository and checked the specific file mentioned (mixerann.cpp and the header file).
Then, I was invited to Developer's station with a Teamviewer session and saw the code that implements the specific feature.

The code is in no way similar between the two coins.
But, I believe that one must trusts his own eyes (and compiler). Just download the source code from FedoraCoin and create a working wallet that has all the features of XC enabled. That would prove whether the claim is correct or false.

Now, I do not know who claimed that Fedora and XC share the same codebase. If someone claims that some principles are the same, then I'm afraid that someone hasn't heard of Bitcoin and the blockchain concept (or the transaction concept, or the pubkey->wallet address concept, or... the list goes on forever).

Since you all know the X11Coin dev team w/e started a thread that is self moderated, and they now delete All critiszm about their crappy clone coin.-

Known issues with x11coin or XC are too many to count....so commence the discussion.


loljosh made x11coin, he also made cinni, whitecoin, and synccoin

He gets paid to make alt coins for people, dont think that this coin will go anywhere, it's just a more advanced coingen coin. (coingen is a website that makes alt coins for .1 btc, loljosh makes them with better features for .4 btc)
And remember, Polycoin is the #1 crypto in the world.



X11coin aka XC was made by loljosh. Some of you may know him, some of you may not. Anyway, he's paid to make alt coins(see his thread)

Some coins he has made are: Synccoin, Cinni, Whitecoin, and X11coin.

Those coins have been made by 1 person, loljosh, as the devs themselves(claim to be devs) dont have any understanding of the actual coding, check their history posts as well, they never answer direct questions about anything technical..

I'm sorry for stakeholders/bagholders on those coins, but x11coin is just another coingen coin if you mean, with just advanced features. (coingen is a website that creates alt coins for 0.1 btc, loljosh makes better alt coins for 0.4 btc)

Hello.

I was invited to check the implementation of XC compared to FedoraCoin's codebase in order to find possible similarities between them.
First of all, I visited FedoraCoin's repository and checked the specific file mentioned (mixerann.cpp and the header file).
Then, I was invited to Developer's station with a Teamviewer session and saw the code that implements the specific feature.

The code is in no way similar between the two coins.
But, I believe that one must trusts his own eyes (and compiler). Just download the source code from FedoraCoin and create a working wallet that has all the features of XC enabled. That would prove whether the claim is correct or false.

Now, I do not know who claimed that Fedora and XC share the same codebase. If someone claims that some principles are the same, then I'm afraid that someone hasn't heard of Bitcoin and the blockchain concept (or the transaction concept, or the pubkey->wallet address concept, or... the list goes on forever).

Bir yanlış anlaşılmayı düzelteyim: Darksend teknolojisi çalışıyor ve ortada öyle büyük bir problem de yok. Sadece Pazar akşamı, Darksend yani anonim coin gönderiminin yapılabilmesi için gerekli olan masternode isimli sunucuların coin mining işleminden %10 pay alması için yapılan güncellemede sıkıntı çıktı; sonuç olarak bu güncelleme 10-15 gün sonrasına ertelendi. Yani aslında anonim şekilde para gönderimi şu an için 10 Darkcoin (Haziran ayı içerisinde bu sınır 100 Darkcoin'e çıkartılacak) ve altındaki miktarlar için çalışıyor; sadece buna olanak sağlayan masternode sunucuları yeni güncelleme gelene kadar madencilik işinden bir süre daha ekstra pay alamayacaklar.

Darkcoin fiyatının düşmesi ise, hardfork sonucunda ortaya çıkan bu geçici problemin domino etkisi göstermesi neticesinde bir çok yatırımcının panik satışlarla coin'lerini elden çıkartmasının bir sonucu. Ne yazık ki altcoin pazarı şu an öylesine vahim bir halde ki; kimsenin konsepte/teknolojiye/geleceğe yatırım yaptığı yok. Herkes elindeki bir lirayı pump edilen bir coine yatırıp, sermayesini yarım günde üç katına çıkartıp ortadan tüyme derdinde. Anonim coin gönderimi inanılmaz büyüklükte bir kullanım alanına sahip olacak, inovatif bir yenilik. İnsanlar bu ve benzeri yeniliklerin değerini anlayıp pump&dump yerine teknolojiye yatırım yapmaya başladığı anda piyasanın seyri değişecektir.

Darkcoin geliştiricisi olan Evan Duffield'ın yeni developer aramasının sebebi ise başarısızlık ya da işten kaçmak değil. Darkcoin'in gittikçe popülerleşmesi neticesinde core developer olarak artık tüm işlere tek başına yetişemediği için kendisine yardımcı olacak developer'lar arıyor; yani şirketi büyütmeye çalışıyor diye düşünebiliriz. Zaten kendisi tam zamanlı olarak Darkcoin projesinde çalışıyor ve de 2016 yılına kadar da devamlılığını garanti etmiş durumda. Yeni katılacak geliştiriciler Darkcoin'in daha hızlı büyümesine imkan tanıyacaktır diye düşünüyorum.

Darkcoin ve DarkSend isimli anonim coin transferi sağlayan konseptin neden başarılı olacağına inanmıyorsunuz, kısaca bir kaç cümleyle açıklayabilir misiniz? Peki anonim coin gönderimi sizin için gelecekte popüler olabilecek bir konu mudur? Darkcoin yerine daha fazla sempati duyduğunuz, bu işi yapacağına inandığınız bir başka coin var mı?



Geldiğimiz noktada sadece bitcoin piyasada bir ödeme aracı olacak kullanılabiliyor. Geri kalan tüm coinlerin yatırım amaçlı kullanım dışında fonksiyonları sınırlı. Gelecekte litecoin dahil, mevcut pazara her hangi bir yenilik getirmeyen tüm coin'lerin tarihe karışacağını düşünüyorum. Buna istisna olarak anonim gönderime olanak sağlayan ve hızlı gönderim/doğrulama yaparak coin alış-verişini pratikleştirmeyi başaracak coinleri verebilirim. Köpek suratından logo yapılıp adına coin üretildiği şu zaman diliminin hızla geçmesini, sadece gerçek para yerine geçebilecek işe yarar amaçları olan coin'lerin piyasada kalmasını umutla bekliyorum.

Here are the key points I have collated from the developer over numerous posts so far:

The mixer technology will be multi-path across a cluster of xnodes which runs over the encrypted protocol, so it won't be a central server, it would be similar to a distributed cluster, and the data is encapsulated inside that encrypted tunnel to prevent off-the wire sniffing (or off-the-air* for the mobile platform)...  DRK didn't "invent" supernodes or the concept, and while some of concepts are similar and/or overlap, we are on a different path than DRK and as we refine the platform, it will be clear why our design, implementation and infrastructure is superior as we will have autonomous supernodes using PKI that can scale up and out to become a distributed anonymous application platform

This is why the multi-path paradigm network I built back in 2005 still functions to do this day and scaled up to meet the demands of 2014... think back to 2005, granted we had the internet, but not the mobile technology - and that is a key part of my background is mobility that will be leveraged in the android anonymous POS wallet

(http://eprint.iacr.org/2009/385.pdf
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1208/1208.3022.pdf)
(The principles for this concept come from a design that I originally leveraged back in 2005,[multi-path paradigm] the system still runs to do this day handling 50k to 100k users per day )

If your waiting for NSA proof anonymity - well that is the goal of our REV 2 release..

No, mixing is only part of it, XC now contains a completely new transaction protocol layer that is encrypted and will be leveraged as a platform for all sorts of concepts.... and it will leverage multi-path paradigm topology (which again is a custom developed concept based on dual-path paradigm)So mixing is just the first application to run on top of this new protocol........ Don't want this key point to get lost --- mixing is just the first application, the list is long and the potential is huge, and since the foundation has been built and deployed, it is now time to build on that foundation.... with some revolutionary concepts and idea's.....

Also the infrastructure for this will support numerous other applications, such as encrypted messaging, P2P exchange..etc granted we can only develop new features so fast, but we are putting the foundation for a multi-use, multi-purpose platform