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581  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: CoinDouble | 200% ROI | Double your Bitcoin's in automated and innovative way on: December 24, 2015, 12:54:33 PM
It will probably pay (you know these programs pay at  the beginning)..may be 20-70% of people's investments and then will start accumulating for its owner Cheesy
Well we dont have to argue much over this, you can invest there and post your tx id and i will wish you good luck.
I have invested only in one doubler and am not gonna make the same mistake Cheesy (got paid 19% of it)
Exactly my point, so dont promote what you will not participate, you might mislead some people.
I'm not promoting. Man I just mentioned that the early ones have a chance, which itself is a TRUE FACT. I also don't support this kind of sites. So I don't even know why you started this discussion/argument.

As far as I can see he's new in the industry, so his answers don't really surprise me  Tongue
However, although the program is attractive enough and simple at the same time I'm scared of the fact they launched it yesterday only because we're near to new year and according to their ROI calculations I estimate that in 7 days max it will have stopped paying already.
If you have in mind to invest I'd do it now only, otherwise it will be too late. I'm not forcing you to, don't think bad, just sharing my thoughts.

PS: I'm sorry but I don't see any "innovative automated way" as OP mentioned in thread title, and do you?

May God bless your earnings, good luck guys  Smiley
582  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: bter.com wallet doubling 10BTC at the time on btc2x.com on: December 24, 2015, 12:46:09 PM
I found out something really strange: I don't know if this is the right forum board to post this but I don't know where to start the thread.

I withdrew all my funds from bter and I received them from this wallet as usual
17o5zDFGNvP5H2iWd7aWbhacwS1HKDE4i9
I started looking at this wallet recent transactions and I found out there are recurrent transaction of 10 BTC going back and forth from wallets connected to the dobuling bitcoin site btc2x.com

What is happening then? I don't know, but I have some ideas.

https://blockchain.info/address/17o5zDFGNvP5H2iWd7aWbhacwS1HKDE4i9



It's not a common case but it may happen when using exchange addresses, so it's ok. Just that btc2x.com won't never pay that 20 BTC  Grin
583  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [NEW SITE] Bitcoin investment. Receive 150% after 20 days. No scam on: December 22, 2015, 11:21:57 PM
I know nobody of you guys will deposit any coin there but I'm going to review it because this guy is italian and found out his original thread here.

  • No scripts.
  • Free low-level template.
  • Few words spent for his service, including on the website.
  • Unsustainable ROI for a real business.
  • Unclear business model.
  • No proofs - I'm wondering if there's any real revenue according to the previous points.
  • No SSL certificate.
  • Free hosting.
  • Cheap domain name (usually used for fast scams).
  • OP is also running a vanitygen site which looks like as positive thing, but not at all because he may have the access to all generated bitcoin addresses.
  • Non-existent advertising.
  • "No scam" - "post your experience" these words lead me to a possible trick for encouraging people to join this probable Ponzi scheme.
  • OP is the richest in the world since he can double the money of people, but unfortunately he only accepts 0.5 BTC max to double. A bit weird imho.

I'd suggest you to stay away from it / be careful with it.
584  Local / Gambling (Italiano) / Re: [SITO WEB] Nuovo sistema sicuro per investire bitcoin on: December 22, 2015, 11:04:50 PM
Hai scritto 5 righe messe in croce qui, nel sub-forum Investor-based games e sul sito, non spieghi chiaramente cosa fai e come lo fai, mancano le prove che ciò che fai sia vero, scarsa pubblicità, usi un hosting gratuito, vedo solo un template free mediocre e alcun tipo di script possibilmente automatizzato.
Ci sono mille altri fattori di cui tener conto per non "investire" nel tuo programma ma evito di elencarli altrimenti stanotte non andrei a dormire lol  Cool
Al sol pensiero che tu offra 150% ROI in 20 giorni mi vien da pensare che questo sia un poverissimo schema Ponzi. Anche se dovesse essere uno schema Ponzi sconsiglio vivamente di provarlo siccome pochissimi o nessuno seguirà conoscendo l'industria eheh..

PS: ti do il beneficio del dubbio e faccio finta di crederti, che succederà quando il tuo fantastico metodo per duplicare i soldi ti porterà ad avere debiti? Come risponderai alle lamentele degli investitori? Prima o poi collasserà, schema Ponzi o meno. Qualsiasi cosa tu faccia non è sostenibile, altrimenti saresti già l'uomo più ricco al mondo.

Referenza <-
585  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Δ Delta Investments - 18 BTC invested - 10-15% weekly on: December 22, 2015, 10:52:58 PM
This is just a ponzi/hyip scheme guys, do NOT send your money here.
The age of it, 1month+ will fool u because they are paying from early members money.

Here, to understand it better :

https://i.imgur.com/xmFXhaO.jpg

Have you even read through this thread? You do know he's been paying since August, right?

He's just a spammer, have ever seen his post counter?  Grin

In my experience rammy's always been reasonable.
Unfortunately he, Vod and others have drawn the conclusion that ALL sites that offer seemingly impossible ROI must be scams and have tarred Adam with the same brush.
As a financial trader myself, I know that high returns are possible day trading, and personally give Adam the benefit of the doubt.
It's unfortunate, I have tried to counter the red trust, I'm only DT3 and carry little weight, but it doesn't seem to be putting people off investing.


Taken from OP first page :
Quote
This HYIP was started in late August 2015

Do i need to say more guys ? Tell me one (1) successfully HYIP

PS : yeah, taught so Wink

HYIP means high-yield investment programs which is not necessarily led to Ponzi schemes.
Such programs usually offer unsustainable interests because admin plans to scam since the birth of the program or just wants to profit out of the investor's deposits (through eg. Forex trading). Well, there are many reasons to run a HYIP but not all admins start with the intention to scam, some of them just make a try because think to have solid ideas, even though they'll end up failing because of debts and so on.

There's a slight difference between a scam-since-launch and a planned scam: you can profit from the second one if joining it in time and that's what we are used to do, while in the first one nobody won't.
586  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ✔ BitFactory.co - Faucet / Investors Game on: December 20, 2015, 10:50:53 AM
Hello guys. I have a problem here regarding my deposit earlier. I have email about this matter twice but still got no respond.
Can you guys check this matter out. I have deposit an amount of 0.01 right before your website went offline a few hours ago.
Just right after i have sent my deposit and i went to your website to buy  building, it went offline.
Please see this matter. Thank you.

I guess their server couldn't fetch your transaction (maybe because they aren't running a full node, walletnotify+blocknotify, using third party API or things like that) but I'm sure OP will help you as soon as possible. Just give him time and don't panic  Wink
587  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: BtcProfix.com - We pay from 1% to 3.2% daily - No min & max - No fee on: December 18, 2015, 09:19:33 PM
Might be alright, usually programs with these specs are mid term

This aint a "program", its just another SCAM

I appreciate the fact you can distinguish scams easily but please gtfo now, your post counter has now reached 5.000 posts.
588  Local / Gambling (Italiano) / Re: [SKILL][PVP] Bitcoin‬ Flapper / Bitcoin Crush - ‪Killerapp‬! - Meglio dei faucet on: December 16, 2015, 11:22:38 PM
Non male l'idea di un Agario con bitcoins  Cheesy
I round a tempo son semplicemente geniali, ti permettono di raggiungere la top 3 anche in meno di due minuti siccome è impossibile diventare grossi quanto il monitor in soli 10 minuti (parlo più che altro degli avversari).
Comunque spesso e volentieri gli FPS calano di molto e sto usando un FX 6300 (Six core, 3.5 GHz) e 8GB RAM DDR3 1866Mhz, praticamente in idle  Embarrassed
589  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: iz-nop.com | 100% Automated | 130% Return | Chat | 10+ BTC paid out. | 4+ months on: December 16, 2015, 11:15:18 PM
Lol and the site shut down. It was clear from day one this system was unsustainable but the admin couldn't see.

When the site was up, there was a LONG list of people who had yet to receive their payments, and as more deposits come to pay earlier deposits that list just got longer.

And finally after a few months of saying "come deposit" on these forums he shuts the website down. I feel sorry to all the people who fell for such an obvious system that was bound to collapse right at the start.

Actually I didn't shut it down.....

I had to do server work. (I own http://fudhost.com)

I'll be fixing the site soon also.

But yeah. Sadly your right. It's not sustainable anymore. Not sure what to do at this point. But like I said. The site isn't going anywhere.

I'll probably keep this site up and start a new site.

Send the 5% fees from the new site. to the old site.

I'll run two games at once. Iznop is going to be 130% back (slower payouts)

And I will start ponzi.xyz up again. 115% back.
I know a few methods to 'filp' money. So maybe I should not even pay out instantly. "Payout after 24 hours" etc.

I'm removing my iznop signature for now. And adding a warning to the thread.
Sounds good.
Not sure if you know this, but their is the error for the amount needed for next payout.
 "Amount needed for next payout: Failed to connect to the database."

He just turned off MySQL server.
590  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: iz-nop.com | 100% Automated | 130% Return | Chat | 10+ BTC paid out. | 4+ months on: December 13, 2015, 11:35:07 AM
Site's down, maybe definitive shutdown?
591  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: :: VENUS VENTURES is Open to New Investors!! ~> +4%/Day :: on: December 13, 2015, 10:05:12 AM
Finally a "venture" with very high potential here! Your business model is well studied and offered interests look like stable according to the way you profit.
I'd suggest you to set up a website and maybe hiring some web/bitcoin developer for a better automatic service.

Do you have any proof of the activities you claim to be earning your investors their returns? Thank you.
Personally anytime i see negative trust on member account my doubt will increase, no need to ask for proof.

Dude, don't act a donkey by following someone's negative feedback who didn't even care to read and/or study carefully before complaining. Just saying you don't have to jump so early to conclusions as Vod does.

I'll be stealthily monitoring your thread  Cheesy
Good luck.
592  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: PonziPoliceForce ||| LIST OF PAYING HYIP'S||| UPDATED DAILY! on: December 12, 2015, 12:42:15 PM
Why no mention of CryptoBoost  Huh,.. over 2 months online and working perfectly for players,..
Because this is not a serious ponzi monitor.

Obviously he isn't:



When I was just stating true facts about him on this thread only.
Oh by the way, that's him:

I am back everyone!!! GLAD TO BE BACK!!! I NEED ALL MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE AND LET ME KNOW WHAT IS PAYING AND WHAT IS SCAMMING!


Ayyy. Boys. Hold up hold up we dem boyz

Wiz Khalifa - We Dem Boyz [Official Video]
I suppose he's just a boy lol.
593  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ✔ BitFactory.co - Faucet / Investors Game on: December 12, 2015, 12:07:42 AM
Imho 0.0005 BTC fee is too high according to the fact that Bitcoin network actually uses 0.0001 BTC as official fee.
However, last admin's activity was on December 02, 2015, 12:33:12 which is a bad sign. Have any of you had contact with the admin or with their support in the recent days?
To be honest with you I wouldn't be surprised if it's collapsing already, even though I won't take anyone into a panic because I have no proof about lol.

You can clearly see that the fee is not for the network but it is stated that is "Our Fee" when you click cash out.  So the 40,000 go to bitfactory and to help the system stability and the 10,000 go to the network.  I'll pay the fee all day if its going to help the site pay longer.  Ore-mine charges the same fee by the way and they've been around for a looong time.  

I knew it wasn't for the network but I was just saying it's not "competitive" because too high. Anyways, it's not my program so it's up to admin to take decisions  Cheesy
594  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ✔ BitFactory.co - Faucet / Investors Game on: December 10, 2015, 08:55:51 PM
Imho 0.0005 BTC fee is too high according to the fact that Bitcoin network actually uses 0.0001 BTC as official fee.
However, last admin's activity was on December 02, 2015, 12:33:12 which is a bad sign. Have any of you had contact with the admin or with their support in the recent days?
To be honest with you I wouldn't be surprised if it's collapsing already, even though I won't take anyone into a panic because I have no proof about lol.
595  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: AsHour.biz - larger deposits? on: December 08, 2015, 01:20:13 PM
I am not the owner, but am considering investing, so any info I can get is apreciated

Investing in any ponzi schemes is as good as donating your bitcoins for charity ,except charity doesn't guarantee you returns.You better buy two pizzas with your bitcoins and I think that is a better investment because pizzas have cheese,vegetable,chicken and all sort of stuff which will give strength to your body and make you happy.This seems like a better investment because you can't buy happiness but logically you can.Also,don't invest in ponzis.

This is NOT a Ponzi scheme, it's a scam.
Ponzi schemes are so profitable to guarantee you a making living off as well. However if you had bad experiences with such programs it's ok, you can tell your story and try to explain risks involved but don't influence the choices of others as you do.
Playing Ponzis is almost the same as gambling, and don't come to me stating the opposite because I'd argue for hours about this  Cheesy
596  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: C2X.in - Coins 2x - Double 20+ Accepted Coins - 3 Plans + 10% affiliate on: December 08, 2015, 01:15:10 PM
Over 0.7BTC invested and 0.1BTC PAID. Currently C2X is best investment option, find out now with us!

Narcissist.
597  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: AsHour.biz - larger deposits? on: December 08, 2015, 01:09:52 PM
First of all wtf is "scamanalyze.com"? And finally why the hell would you invest in such scam? Even if it was a paying Ponzi scheme it would collapse in ~10 hours.
Don't listen to others whatever they say, just listen to me (if you're not the admin) stay away from this crap and shit like that.

On the first question I dont know what scamanalyze is. Thank you for your opinion, that is exactly why I made this thread because I want opinions. Also the site is 127 days online, I have been checking it out without investing in it for about a month now, but all I see are small payout that is why I want to know if anybody here has completed the 45-hour plan with larger amount in the past.

This is born as scam from its launch.
The only people getting paid are monitors and promoters, who are already aware of the selective payments they're doing. How come?
People will trust them if find out paying status everywhere and "real" payouts on their site, and after these people get scammed part of their money is used to pay monitors and promoters.
That's how hourly scam works and that's why you should skip them all (especially if having a low level design as AsHour.biz lol).
598  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: AsHour.biz - larger deposits? on: December 08, 2015, 12:56:19 PM
First of all wtf is "scamanalyze.com"? And finally why the hell would you invest in such scam? Even if it was a paying Ponzi scheme it would collapse in ~10 hours.
Don't listen to others whatever they say, just listen to me (if you're not the admin) stay away from this crap and shit like that.
599  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [SOLVED] walletnotify not working on Windows on: December 08, 2015, 09:27:31 AM
I've now completed my scripts and everything is working like a charm, closed.
600  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Cryptex.io - The most cold-hearted scam ever or...?? on: December 07, 2015, 11:35:20 PM
It's sad to see newbies trying to figure out what happened to a program after its collapse/scam weeks ago lol. Gueeeess whaaat?! Admin created an excuse, scammed you all and now he's still scamming new users, it's a classic.

Is THAT what you understood from what I wrote??

Omg, and you call ME a newbie! Smiley

Tell me ONE other scam site that remained OPEN and continued to recieve deposits after "closing down"... Every other scam I became aware of since I became active with CryptoCurrency just vanised from the net, taking the currency with them. But, read this part carefully please, CRYPTEX.IO IS STILL UP AND ACCEPTING DEPOSITS!!!

Oh so you got more experience than me haha dude open your eyes, bitcointalk is nothing compared to the rest of the industry.
There are about 10-15 new programs popping up everyday and most of the programs when they collapse/scam they still remain opened waiting for new funds coming in. The first example came in my mind is Cryptoconomist which remained online for about 2-3 months after the scam.
Stop complaining and do something in order to recover your (possible) loss.

PS: wanna know a full crypto example too? CoinsDouble.com  Grin Grin Grin
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