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581  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Has anyone compiled a guestimate of the amount of pre-orders on: August 20, 2013, 06:27:48 PM
Avalon Units (Batch 1, 2 & 3):  

Batch 1 & 2 :  63 Thash

Batch 3:    60 Thash

Avalon Chips:  At least 150 Thash    ~274 Thash
582  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Accepting Hardware] ASIC Miner Hosting (Managed) - Electricity @0.02/Kwh on: August 20, 2013, 06:23:45 PM
Interested in gpu hosting. Sent you a PM. Did not get a response yet...

Sorry about the delay.  At this point we need to use hosting space for ASIC only.  Litecoin miners are the only units we would consider.  With how fast difficulty is rising, it doesn't make sense to use our cooling to cool a GPU miner.  We would need to charge a fixed cost and it would be enough that it would not make sense for you to host with us.   
583  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: A word on profitability on: August 20, 2013, 06:18:25 PM
I believe the mining community is about to go through a real tough spot and once we get through it, we will overall have less miners but more hash-rate.   Basically we are going to see operating costs for miners get to a point where we will see miners that have higher operating costs get bumped out and new hardware will absorb their hashing.  This will produce more concentration of mining and people who have scale and low operating costs will win "at" the expense of others.  Zero-sum game.
584  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: CoinTerra 2TH/Sec Miner Official $15,700!!!! Complete Fail on: August 20, 2013, 04:13:28 AM
Doesn't it depend on when they are shipping?  I actually think the price isn't bad if they are shipping soon.  I would also take pricing with a grain of salt, right now the market is in flux so lets not be too quick to jump on them.  Even for my ASIC hosting business, it is hard to know if our pricing will work 6 months from now. 

With that said, when are they shipping?

-D
585  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Should we be concerned about EM emissions? on: August 19, 2013, 05:58:22 PM
Or using mineral oil to reduce that. A responsible company like Intel, does the thing for you.

Mineral oil is used for constructing data farm if air conditioning is not allowed like in Home or in office.

Why only few option for operators? Why only air?

Air is cheap, doesn't make a mess and is easily maintained. Oil can leak and make a mess, costs more to contain and does require maintenance if it is a circulated or open system. Even closed systems require some level of maintenance to ensure parts aren't degraded by the mineral oil.

Same thing applies to water cooling, except you have corrosion to worry about.

I agree, I looked into mineral oil and it just wasn't worth the mess.  Servicing equipment using that cooling method is a real hassle.
586  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 19, 2013, 05:42:09 AM

snip letter

A Bitcoiner


Mr. Gage,

With respect, I'm trying to work out your aims of continuing to post stuff about BFL here - you've made it quite clear that you don't approve of their business practices and that you think other people should not order from them, or trust them any more, but it's your end-game that confuses me.

Are you trying to put BFL out of business, or just dissuade people from placing any further order or trust with BFL, or is it just a personal vendetta you have against BFL because of some perceived or real slight from the past?

If the first, are you aware that if you succeed in your task, then there will be a lot of people on this forum who are waiting on good to be delivered that will be put out of pocket.  BFL are delivering the equipment ordered, albeit at a very slow pace, and I don't think you disagree with this fact.  If by some miracle you manage to cause BFL inconvenience e.g. having to respond to spurious FTC requests, or reply to letters from their landlord - it's just going to cost BFL money which they will have to pass onto their customers - members of this forum.  How do you justify this?

If it's the persuasion issue, then I think you have already succeeded, and to be honest, starting any campaign against their building management, or raising issues with the FTC, or any other active protests don't really help that cause.

If it's the latter, then I suppose there's not much I can do since it seems it's a personal issue that I'm not going to convince you otherwise, but do you really have to be so passionate about it?

Cheers,

Will

If something is built with a rotten foundation then it is in fact rotten.   Using the justification of the potential harm to customers as a reason not to right past wrongs in my opinion is the same line that is used to justify continue bad actions because fixing them will hurt people initially.  Food for thought.

What I don't like is seeing people taken advantage of and then treated with disrespect when other call it out.

.02BTC
587  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 4-module Avalon Batch #3 in hand. 98btc on: August 19, 2013, 03:18:06 AM
Anyone interested in purchasing a unit and would like long-term hosting, please PM me.  I have a great setup totally geared towards ASIC mining gear.
588  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Accepting Hardware] ASIC Miner Hosting (Managed) - Electricity @0.02/Kwh on: August 19, 2013, 02:48:39 AM
Explanation appreciated.

Absolutely.  You're not the first including myself to think about that topic.  You actually inspired me to write an article for our website based on this topic.  I will PM you with it when its done.  

You might be interested in this article too.
"Bitcoin Mining’s Inevitable Cloud Future"
http://thegenesisblock.com/op-ed-bitcoin-minings-inevitable-centralized-future/

I have read that and overall they are correct in their assessment.   Thank you.
589  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Accepting Hardware] ASIC Miner Hosting (Managed) - Electricity @0.02/Kwh on: August 19, 2013, 02:33:37 AM
Explanation appreciated.

Absolutely.  You're not the first including myself to think about that topic.  You actually inspired me to write an article for our website based on this topic.  I will PM you with it when its done.   
590  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Accepting Hardware] ASIC Miner Hosting (Managed) - Electricity @0.02/Kwh on: August 19, 2013, 01:53:23 AM
Note:  I did moderate the last comment because it was not very relevant to the purpose of this thread.     

With that said I want to give you my opinion about hosting and centralization.

Basically this, mining is going to get more centralized period.  With depreciating returns in mining hardware investments, overtime the bulk of hashing power will be in a relatively fewer hands.  This may be a concern for some and even though I think it is a non-issue, I do understand the premise. 

When I decided to build the hosting facility, it was with the idea of lower operating costs and giving more people the ability to mine longer with the type of scale that will be needed in the future to operating profitably.  I hope people will agree with that assessment and support our business.  If not, I fear that this centralization will continue and independent miners will have a harder time to operate. 

Sincerely,
Dalkore
591  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [POLL] Do you trust BF Labs Inc. (Butterfly Labs) NOW? on: August 18, 2013, 07:15:13 PM
adding "maybe" as an option would be fair...

Maybe?   You can't "maybe" trust someone.  Either you do or you don't.
592  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: History Lesson on BFL on: August 18, 2013, 05:32:43 PM
Re: New monarch line

I would just like to point out from different sources, that BFL has shipped about 10-15% of all there pre-orders.   If you didn't know, BFL pulled this same tactic when they announced their ASIC line when they were still months and months behind on their FPGA line (Bitforce).   With how oversold their delivery schedule is, it makes sense BFL would announce this in the face of rapidly rising difficulty.  

I suspect many of there pre-order will have a negative ROI soon so they "had" to do this to give the people a distraction from the real issues.   Many may disagree but I see the same road heading to the same wall again.  


Your  public service announcement
-Dalkore


I wonder if someone who never got their FPGA, upgraded to ASIC and never got that, and now has upgraded to monarch.


If I was forced to bet on it, I would have to take the affirmative position.  Look on the bright side-this mean less hardware will be coming online this year, Thank you BFL.
593  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: History Lesson on BFL on: August 18, 2013, 05:30:19 PM
Maybe but I seem some familiar faces, saying quite positive comments about this announcement.   It is totally reminiscent of the PR piece they rolled out for ASIC 10 months early.  Please before you get excited, really sit back and think about this.  Make sure your making the correct decision.   With a 85% pre-order backlog, they announcements timing is suspect and should be taken lightly at this point.  They need to deliver and not keep rolling out more fluff.
594  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Announces 600GH/s 28nm PCIe Mining Card on: August 18, 2013, 05:21:54 PM
Everyone read this:

I have a July 15 2012 pre-order for 2 ASIC SC Singles and I still don't have them to this day. I am coming from a group buy upgrade so I can't really get a refund. I am thankful people with PayPal/Credit Cards were able to get their refunds.

Screw BFL.

Im coming from a July 10 2012 preorder for an Single and still havent received mine either, and of course we paid on the day we ordered.
Backing this post. FUCK THEM and their lies.

The fact that they go and announce this with plans to ship BEFORE THEY HAVE EVEN FINISHED THEIR CURRENT YEAR+ QUEUE IS BEYOND ME

Anyone who falls for this is fucking out of their mind.

Its the same thing they did when they announced ASIC and they have a 6 month backorder of FPGA singles.  How soon everyone forgets. sigh...
595  Bitcoin / Hardware / History Lesson on BFL on: August 18, 2013, 05:07:57 PM
Re: New monarch line

I would just like to point out from different sources, that BFL has shipped about 10-15% of all there pre-orders.   If you didn't know, BFL pulled this same tactic when they announced their ASIC line when they were still months and months behind on their FPGA line (Bitforce).   With how oversold their delivery schedule is, it makes sense BFL would announce this in the face of rapidly rising difficulty.  

I suspect many of there pre-order will have a negative ROI soon so they "had" to do this to give the people a distraction from the real issues.   Many may disagree but I see the same road heading to the same wall again.  


Your  public service announcement
-Dalkore

596  Economy / Services / Re: [Accepting Hardware] ASIC Miner Hosting (Managed) - Electricity @0.02/Kwh on: August 18, 2013, 04:10:22 AM
Update 08/17/2013:  Installed more client hardware today and got our new firewall online and its running like a beast.
597  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Accepting Hardware] ASIC Miner Hosting (Managed) - Electricity @0.02/Kwh on: August 18, 2013, 04:08:57 AM
Installed more client hardware today.  They actually drove up from Cali to meet me.  Exciting.
598  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Accepting Hardware] ASIC Miner Hosting (Managed) - Electricity @0.02/Kwh on: August 16, 2013, 10:11:39 PM
Can't wait for the site and more details - very interested - wondering if this is like most colos where I can still manage the miners software but you guys deal with power, network, security, etc...

It will be online soon.  I am going to work on it tonight, it is basically done.    Currently this is a fully managed service.   

Here are a few items that make it not like normal co-location:

1. Declining income from the mining hardware - discourages fixed fees over time as diff rises.

2. Steeper cooling requirements than normal data-centers - If you want your hardware to hash at the top-end and over-clocked you need additional cooling to run your ambient temperature lower.  I found as soon as I could bring it lower, all the hardware responding so much better it was like night & day.

3. Physical security - Once we have people getting our public IP addresses, then people can use techniques to try and ascertain the location of our facility.  We take security as one of the highest priorities and do not see the client get much benefit from putting this responsibility on them.  This hardware should be basically plug and hash if setup right with minimal customer interference.  Any downtime is reduced income for both the client and their hosting provider. 


I hope the gives you more insight into our thoughts on this currently.  With that said, over time as we get our location more built-out we will be looking into different options.   We may open another location that is setup for self-hosting specifically, it is something that is on our radar. 

599  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Incoming Avalon News 8/9/2013 on: August 16, 2013, 09:54:06 PM
at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)

Glad to hear.   Keep your head up, don't let the bulls**t catch up.  Your newsletter story was not pleasant.
600  Economy / Services / [HOSTING] High Cacacity & Density Bitcoin ASIC Hosting (As low at $65.00 per KW) on: August 16, 2013, 09:27:57 PM
Update:  Just added more capacity lowered prices.   If you want to see some of the progress:  http://bitcoinasichosting.com/blog/categories/company-news/item/256-datacenter-expansion-in-progress-pictures

Mining Community,

Bitcoin ASIC Hosting is located Washington State to offer the highest value for mining co-location available to the market.  This is a fully managed service, which includes:

-Onsite monitoring and tech support
-Units are fully INSURED
-Setup, rack shelving, cables
-Does not cover power supply if your unit does not come with one*
-Dedicated state of the art cooling and rigorously monitored ambient temperatures
-Hosted in a Tier-1 rated data-center

All Inclusive Hosting Monthly Fee:
 Between $65-85 per kW per month*

*Reduced pricing for longer term commitments

One-Time Setup Fee: $21.00 per U of rack space.

Currently we are accepting 3-month minimum prepaid contracts. For large operations, Bitfund also specializes in custom hosting facility build-outs.  Often building your own space is cost effective over leasing.  Reach us for pricing and consultation at enterprise [at] bitcoinasichosting [dot] com



View our hosting price page here:

www.bitcoinasichosting.com/pricing/


We at Bitcoin ASIC Hosting have been providing unsurpassed quality co-location to our clients since the first Avalon series of mining hardware. We have a record of excellence dealing with hardware repairs, quick RMA service, and advanced troubleshooting to keep units online 24 hours a day.  Our staff of Linux engineers, customer service reps, and onsite support provide unmatched quality to our competitors.  We built our own hosting facility two years ago and completing our process of expanding to our new 2MW facility.  We are located in Eastern Washington.  We are proud to provide the only dedicated ASIC hardware support to a Fortune-500 data-center.

What we are looking for: PM or email us at hosting [at] bitcoinasichosting [dot] com with the type and number of your units you are looking to co-locate.  For large orders and consulting email us at enterprise [at] bitcoinasichosting [dot] com.

FAQ

View our full FAQ at: www.bitcoinasichosting.com/support/FAQ/

Do you sell any hardware?

We are not selling any hardware at this time.  We only provide server co-location for hardware that has already been purchased by our customers.  Our clients save time and money by directly sending their units for us for documenting, configuring and hosting.

What mining services are provided?
We provide an all-inclusive hardware co-location service specific for cryptographic mining.  Your miner will mine on a preferential server on a major pool.  We have extensive measures to receive instant notification whenever a unit is not hashing.  Our team is able to respond to these issues immediately and provide you with the highest up-time possible.

How long are hosting terms?

We provide our clients with 3, 6, and 12 month contracts.

Where is Bitcoin ASIC Hosting located?
We operate and manage facilities throughout Washington.

How can I pay?
We are currently accepting BTC (2% fee) and USD via check, wire transfer
(international only) and direct deposit into our Bank of America account.

If I prepay but my units have not arrived what happens?
Your hosting term does not begin until your units begin hashing.

When are you ready for hosting?
We are fully operational and have capacity now!

What insurance do you carry?
We offer insurance against theft and acts of God.  We do not offer insurance against lost profits.

Is there a setup fee?
Yes, there is a one time $21.00 fee per U of rackspace (1.75 inches).  This fee covers mounting, network setup, transportation, configuration and cabling.  This fee is non-recurring.

Do you support non-rack mountable gear?
We have experience deploying non-traditional mining operations.

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