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581  Economy / Reputation / Re: Should Ratimov be in DT1? on: November 07, 2023, 04:58:26 AM
@Ratimov: feel free to retaliate, that seems to be your thing. Just know that the users who excluded me are not exactly the most upstanding citizens of Bitcointalk. You'll be in terrible company:
It's true and this part made me laugh when I was reading it. But it sounds like you are threatening him not to do that.

I think that if he excludes you in retaliation he will quite likely trigger more distrusts from DT,
Those who have not removed him from their trust list, not even felt to write a few words in this topic, just ignoring everything about this topic and the other topics created in the last few weeks, I think someone should investigate the feedback they left, the people they trust and distrust, the merits they sends and receives. I doubt we will not find unnecessary positive feedback with no trade reference, trust list with backscratching and merit fans to each others.
582  Other / Meta / Re: Is it just me? Bitcointalk slow!!! on: November 02, 2023, 04:31:46 PM
The pages taking forever to reload. Is it just me or everyone else?
It must be your internet connection. I am using the forum with TOR connection and it feels normal.
583  Economy / Services / Re: (Traffic) Exclusive SEO Service Packages Tailored to Your Budget! ‍ on: November 02, 2023, 01:09:22 PM
Here you go:

- Fairly new project so DA will scale gradually

Isn't it better to give the website urls so that anyone who is interested can see the position of the website for the keywords it is targeting. How will we know that you were behind the success of the sites? Do you have your own site that is ranked too?

Sorry for all these questions because unless you have a detailed portfolio, it's hard to believe that you will deliver which you are promising. There used to be a time when it was easy to make the customers dump but these days it's hard.
584  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: "change password frequently" on: November 02, 2023, 12:58:46 PM
Do you change your passwords often? If no, have you been hacked?
There are no need to change password very often but at least twice in a year is not bad at all. But I doubt many of us do it at all. If I am not mistaken I have changed my password when my account was hacked and since then I never thought to do so again.
585  Other / Meta / Re: Signature campaign as a creation of bitcointalk on: November 02, 2023, 12:49:18 PM
So, apart from here in bitcointalk, has any other forum or website adopted the signature campaign system of advertisement?
I haven't seen it, and even if it existed, I'd expect it to pay much less.
Payment depends on the amount of exposure and competitions between competitors. This forum has enough monthly traffic to convince advertisers spending their money. The campaign mangers are also doing great works in making the signature campaign more demand-able.
586  Other / Meta / Re: Investigation and action required. Unusual forum moderation. on: November 01, 2023, 09:25:45 AM
I don't think there is much more to talk about here. The moderators did not engage in misconduct, and Ratimov was warned in addition to from the forum restoring the deleted threads. If he continues to keep a low profile nothing more is going to happen, although I'll bet we'll still have discussion in the threads, especially about DT inclusions and exclusions. Better keep the discussion on the Reputation section.
You are correct. This topic achieved its goal. It's clear that Ratimov used the holes and tricked forum staffs which caused to create this thread.
587  Other / Meta / Re: Investigation and action required. Unusual forum moderation. on: November 01, 2023, 07:39:11 AM
He is a merit source? Do you have any evidence to prove that he has been misusing his source merits?

Who has given him more than 11,000 merits other than other merit sources? Why don't you consider them "tricked",  shouldn't sources read a post in full before meriting someone? And why didn't anyone notice his "manipulation" tactics before giving him so much merits?

I will not judge anyone here, but if someone takes advantage of a community by manipulation and deception, deserves no respect and should not be put in a position of authority.
Also note that, back scratchers are every where, it's not limited to this case, almost all merit sources discriminate when it comes to meriting.
I understand you had a long gap in-between you left the forum and rejoined here. Instead of asking questions [beginners level] that makes no sense to us, try to educate yourself with the development of the forum when you were absent. Many things will make sense for you then. Until you do, it's better not to leave any comment in any topics which are related to reputation and forum itself.

As I said, if you want to convince me, it would better to do with showing provable facts with links and explanations. If the facts will be convincing, it could change my mind. And ongoing forcing can't.
I don't know which references you are looking for while all things are already everywhere from the discussions from several of us in last few days, even the forum admin convinced that his staffs were tricked, the forum staff himself feels he did bad job. I have no time to continue the discussion to convince a single person. You think all is good? Good for you.

Perhaps there should be a time limit on self mod. I can't think of a good reason to delete posts months later.
I can think of a reason:
It's self-moderated to keep the topic as compact as possible (for more efficient scraping).
I don't often delete posts to keep some Q&A, but once there's enough to delete to make the topic a page shorter I do it.
Those deleted contents, moving them to archive then trying to wipe them out with the help of mediators from public view were not intended to shorter or compact a discussion.

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he's laying low

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Yes, he is a veteran forum member after all.
588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Italian Serie A ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: November 01, 2023, 07:11:03 AM
This is the only pool where I think I have a chance to win something. I even now started to fear if I will lose the side bet with CLS63 in PL pool LOL

maybe same as me because in PL pool i'm rank 18 while on Serie A Pool i'm rank 5 at the moment.
and even this week i got Yellow Cap with FamLFC
Great! do we get anything for having the yellow cap? I guess I am expecting a free bet? If so then I am going to get into gambling again LOL

Maybe because on 1st page its written like this
1. 100 mBTC cash for pool rewards (over 3000$ at the moment)
2. 0.5 mBTC free bet for all participants paid when the league starts and we have final number of participants
3. 1 mBTC for each week yellow cap winner
Do we both get 1mBTC each or we share 1mBTC? Not a big deal though.

From the PL pool, my only hope that I do not lose the side bet against you. Other than this, I do not have any other motivation to try for a place in that pool.

As far as I remember we were both successful in the PL pool in the previous season. However we have started badly to this season. Therefore I would understand you if you give up on making predictions. Cheesy I wasn't really expecting to be the last two rounds in a row in this pool. Being in 18th place in a pool that I was targeting to win a prize at the beginning of the season is really horrible for me.
Ask everyone, I am sure every single one of us had this desire inside to have the 1st place. Unfortunately those of us who are miles away from the top have no hope left.
589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Italian Serie A ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 31, 2023, 10:33:57 PM
This is the only pool where I think I have a chance to win something. I even now started to fear if I will lose the side bet with CLS63 in PL pool LOL

maybe same as me because in PL pool i'm rank 18 while on Serie A Pool i'm rank 5 at the moment.
and even this week i got Yellow Cap with FamLFC
Great! do we get anything for having the yellow cap? I guess I am expecting a free bet? If so then I am going to get into gambling again LOL

Even though we have left 10 weeks behind in the Premier League there is only a difference of 4 points between us. The predictions we have made are very similar to each other. I hope that I don't lose the side bet against you. Tongue
From the PL pool, my only hope that I do not lose the side bet against you. Other than this, I do not have any other motivation to try for a place in that pool.
590  Other / Meta / Re: Investigation and action required. Unusual forum moderation. on: October 31, 2023, 10:23:24 PM
This is a rule violation, but it's fairly minor. A veteran forum member isn't typically going to be banned without warning for moving their topics incorrectly. (These topics were blanked and then deleted over the course of ~3 days before the issue was noticed. It wasn't part of an ongoing pattern AFAICT.) If he continues to move topics incorrectly, this would warrant a temporary ban.
Yes Retimov is a veteran member
[1.] He has long experience in stealing others work [even avoided ban for plagiarism], a thief.
[2.] He has long experience in farming merit in the forum to position himself as 3rd merit earner [we were able to set him as a role model, Ratimov medals Ratimov], a merit farmer.
[3.] He has long experience in manipulating DT system to positing himself with 14 DT strength, a DT abuser.
[4.] He has long experience in conducting deals to grow his feedback page with +22 positive feedback, a trust farmer.
[5.] He has long experience in using trust feedback to hostage the feedback sender to offer peace, a feedback abuser.

We need a custom title for Ratimov: A veteran intellectual thief, merit farmer, DT abuser, trust farmer, feedback abuser. Just like this


Joking apart, what do you feel about his merit source status? You said yourself
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This was a moderator getting tricked
What are the possibility of you not being tricked?
I think I was tricked with all his fake good if I supported his merit source application [moved to trash I think], I also think many others who were supporting the same application tricked with all his fake good. He received the status and was using the source merits to create a fake community around him with the merit beggars.

see lots of personal involvement of some users in all that
Are you still going to give special importance in personal involvements or you now can see the other issues are more important than personal?

He received a warning from me. I wrote to him about his behavior and that in case he continues such actions, he will get a ban. I did not receive a reply, but his trash topics did no longer appear after my warning. I hope for his discretion.
You did what should be done, there are no late in correcting mistake. If you would do the same and used your brain before making everything so messy like it became now then no one would try to point the fingers towards you and the other mod. I really hope you will use this experience to learn a good lesson. All the best.
591  Economy / Services / Re: 📢📢I am interested in becoming a CM or Moderator on a crypto project. on: October 30, 2023, 03:07:37 AM
I will upload a portfolio  soon and I am here for more than 2 years ...

But it's nice idea to buy a Copper membership.
Two years but there are not much contribution from you in the forum. I think any forum member or crypto projects will only think to ask help from someone who has contributed in the forum and have a good track record of working with others.

Copper membership may help to showcase your previous work but you still need a good rank and reputation.
592  Economy / Lending / Re: urgently require 250$ loan on: October 30, 2023, 03:02:32 AM
Why should I stop posting ?  Maybe you are dumb but a scammer would never make 8k$ profit in 1 trade.
Make $250 more profit from another trade and solve the problem yourself. You must know by now you have zero percent chance to receive anything from anyone. Sorry, you need to accept the reality.
593  Other / Meta / Re: Deleted post in a self-moderated thread. No link to the thread. on: October 30, 2023, 02:53:56 AM
I saw a user [sorry can not recall his username] who creates SMF patches. He may try something for theymos.

Is it PowerGlove?
Yes, that's him. PowerGlove, you know now 🤓

I love the  op patch.
I don't know if the other patches were added but OP patch was the most useful so far for me and I loved it too.
594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Italian Serie A ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 30, 2023, 02:29:14 AM
Doing my duty here as I just did on La Liga to get things kicked off on Friday.
Seems not many have mouth to hold a discussion in this topic 🤓

Wake up! I had to bump the thread from the 4th page, WTF!
This is the only pool where I think I have a chance to win something. I even now started to fear if I will lose the side bet with CLS63 in PL pool LOL
595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ Spanish La Liga ⚽ Football Pool Discussion Thread 2023/2024 on: October 30, 2023, 02:20:49 AM
By the way after 10 full rounds, after playing 99 matches on the pool I was able to hit an exact score in LaLiga LOL. 1 - 0 in the Girona vs Celta Vigo match broke the deadlock for me.
Wow, you really had bad luck, congrats for breaking deadlock. But are you sure about it, because Superbru table shows that you have 9 points for exaxct scores.
I checked it earlier and it's 3. From the beginning of the season I am looking for one exact score and I know this is the first one LOL. Are you sure you saw it on LaLiga pool or any other pools like Serie A and Premier League.

Right now my position is 28th out of 28 LOL
596  Economy / Reputation / Re: Should Ratimov be in DT1? on: October 30, 2023, 02:15:19 AM
I had time to remove some users from mentioning in this post. Some user seems not active in the forum and some do not seem to have interest in discussion but the following users I found don't mind taking part in discussions and I will expect some feedback from them about the whole things.

wwzsocki, LFC_Bitcoin, klarki, The Sceptical Chymist, imhoneer, CryptopreneurBrainboss, Best_Change, andy_pelevin , KTChampions, Coin-1, Bitcoin_Arena, tranthidung, tvplus006, witcher_sense, DdmrDdmr, madnessteat, 1miau, FontSeli, YOSHIE, bullrun2020bro, light_warrior.

Using half an hour of your time will help you to make an informative decision that you will not regret later. Have you read the main topic yet?

Do you think he cares about his reputation on how people distrust him or not
He cares but he has ran out of stories. He knows he has caught red handed.
597  Other / Meta / Re: Deleted post in a self-moderated thread. No link to the thread. on: October 30, 2023, 02:03:25 AM
One thing I do is look at my post list for five days to see if it was recent. After that I mostly say fuck it oh well.
I don't even bother to recall if that is from recent or old. The expression I give is, F**k it!

Could be nice if we get some sort of info when we get such massages.
Like you hinted on the title, a link can solve it. I saw a user [sorry can not recall his username] who creates SMF patches. He may try something for theymos.
598  Other / Meta / Re: Investigation and action required. Unusual forum moderation. on: October 30, 2023, 01:55:33 AM
I haven't seen a single report from Ratimov for a long time, and even more so about his own topics. I will even clarify: I have not seen a single report on topics edited by Ratimov.
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How could anyone have found out about this before? That there are many similar garbage topics in the Russian forum? After all, they are old and do not appear in the top of the Russian root. I didn't understand that.
Does look more fishy. The topics/posts were not reported but Xal0lex have managed to found 30 topics [we have no data how many posts] and deleted them! I too don't understand that and for sure many others will not.

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I would not like to put the second moderator in a difficult position, but I was honestly surprised by the answer of Xal0lex:
I haven't personally counted how many topics I've deleted. Maybe 10, maybe more. And plus at the moment there are a few more of Ratimov's garbage topics in the section, which will also be deleted in time. You can go to the section yourself and see how many of these topics there are at the moment. You can also go to modlog and do the math yourself.
Unfortunately he is in a difficult position now.

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I sent the first type to the archive (probably this was not part of his plans), since I believe that other users should not lose messages because of these strange actions. And often you can understand the meaning there even without the first post
I made notes for myself to know that these topics are in the archive, just in case he moves them to the Russian forum again.

The second type of topics in which there is no sense at all, I sent to Trashcan.

I sincerely do not understand why Ratimov did all this, since many topics have been useful and relevant so far. To be honest, I was hoping that he would answer this question himself.
That's exactly what responsibility means. The other mod seems ignored and, deliberately avoided the point on the other topic in his responses.  

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A little later I checked the history of his topics (Ratimov) and really found a lot of edited topics in the Russian forum. They can be divided into two types:
1. Topics where he edited only his own messages, and the posts of other users remained untouched
2. Topics where everything is deleted, and the first post is edited.
Thank you for giving a clear idea of how it was done. In the second type we assume these were self-moderated threads. The first type were regular topics, he deleted his own posts, emptied the main topic and then local mod [Xal0lex] cleaned it up.

Xal0lex would you help us to understand how you found the topics/posts to clean up if they were not reported?

You're falling into conspiracy theories. If you followed a modlog you'd seen that there was no massive deleting of posts in those topics by mods. There was only massive deletion of emptied topics with nonsense subjects. You can check it even without archives because actual log is still containing that data. I'm not a mod in here, but I'm sure that cleaning from nonsense is a mods job. I didn't report any on these topics because I didn't see them before they are being deleted, but if I've seen them, I'd reported them. I do report such nonsense in other cases.

Making an own small research before blaming someone in something could be good. Wink
Have you started your research from this topic from GazetaBitcoin? I will appreciate any input from anyone who have read that topic then read the 2nd topic from LoyceV.
599  Other / Meta / Investigation and action required. Unusual forum moderation. on: October 29, 2023, 03:22:07 AM
The main man needs to look into the matter, he has the supreme access of everything including access of the forum PM [the communication can be done using a none forum media too] and the database. No, this is not a reputation matter, this is a forum issue hence the topic is on the meta board.

The moderators in question: Russian local board moderators Xal0lex and xandry.

There are not enough public links for unusual moderation from xandry yet however since the activities concentrated in the Russian local board we can not ignore his involvement too. Again as I said the main man [Theymos] have ultimate access of everything for investigation. Let's bring everything that questions the unusual moderation.

Everything had started a few days ago when LoyceV created a topic about deleting his post in a self-moderated topic and later it found out that the same user was deleting several other's posts too from his self-moderated topic and the fact had established that he was deleting the posts to cover the trace of his past plagiarism, current feedback abuse, DT manipulation and his tactics of offering peace to negotiate any feedback left to him. Everything about the user has outlined very well in the topic "Should Ratimov be in DT?". It requires almost half an hour read to understand and realize the motive of the user. I highly suggest to read the topic, if you have not yet.

At some point it was discovered that Ratimov was following a very simple strategy to cover up his past and current evil activities to achieve whatever goal he has. The steps are following [the order of the steps can be different in case by case but it is believed that the executions were very similar as explained in the following]
[a.] He moves his topics to Archive
[b.] He deletes his own posts
[c.] He moves the topic to the Russian local board. This is where Russian moderators come into our knowledge.
[d.] He reports other's posts from the topics.
[e.] Moderators delete the reported posts because now these posts are irrelevant in the discussion
[f.] He removes everything from the main topic and makes it an empty topic
[g.] He reports the empty topic to the moderator
[h.] Finally the moderator wipes out the entire topic.

A very lengthy but simple and effective strategy to wipe out any unwanted record. Anyone can delete their past posts which is not wrong but the way the whole things were done, it was not usual.  It definitely is questionable. So questions were asked, we had our speculations too.

This raise concern that why he preferred to move an English topic to a non-English board [his local of-course] and expected it to be deleted or already deleted.
Therefore, unless Xal0lex was his "pal" for deleting evidence from Archival board as well, it means that some other mod helped him.
Maybe this is the reason:
I personally process reports regardless of the date of the post or topic.

Response were given but more like a few excuses with a few return questions. Sounds like a preplanned dialog in defense in case there are questions.
[....]
Why should moderators be ashamed of doing their job? What do you think a moderator should do if he sees such garbage topics in the root of the section under his control?
[...]
Do these trash topics have to stay in the section, or what? Go to the root of the Russian section and browse the pages, there are plenty of such topics. So what, let them lie around? What kind of moderator would allow such a mess? So naturally, the moderators delete them.

Anticipating a question about the content that was there, so that's not interesting to me. I see what's in those threads now. We don't need such trash topics in the section.

Unpleasant merit transactions found by GazetaBitcoin but I would like to accept speculation from LoyceV, "It's quite normal for a Merit source to Merit someone when they use the same local board. I don't expect the posts to be bad, so it's not wrong."
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Ratimov is mod's no. 1 fan!
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The appreciation is mutual! The mod also also chose Ratimov as his first destination of merits, sending him an amount more than double compared to his second most merited user.
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How can a moderator or moderators do not see a single user is following a pattern and using him [them] to remove many other's posts including his entire topics. Not 1 or 5 or 10. Let's read what he said.
Since the appearance of your topic, I personally have deleted no more than 30 topics. Don't forget that the Russian section has two moderators. So no need to attribute to me what is not there (nepotism, etc).
30 Topic! Out of 78 and yet nothing looked unusual to him. That's only 30 topics, how many posts these 78 topics had those were reported and deleted?
A database query will surely show the numbers and also it will show how many topics and posts were deleted by the same moderator but he never thought something is not normal.

I would like to think you were fooled on the other hand I don't know if you had any personal reason to favor a local member.
No more speculations.

At some point the same moderator became unusually aggressive in his defense too.
Is my English so bad that you don't understand? Or are you trying to troll? What is not clear in what I wrote above? [...]
When you are not guilty, there are no need to lose your control. The moderation is questionable either it was a mutual agreement or an innocent irresponsibility.

What matter is, are we going to allow moderators who do not have a sense of responsibility, the liability and loyalty to preserve the reputation of bitcointalk? An investigation is required first to find if the moderators are guilty of mutual agreement or it was an innocent irresponsibility. Second, based on the result of the investigation, an action is required.
600  Other / Meta / Re: Services board is very hard to browse on: October 28, 2023, 09:00:42 PM
Well, moderators have chosen to do a job and theymos could always opt to hire more forum users as moderators. If we could get some staff or admins to chime in about how the workload is these days it would be very insightful. However I don't think there's as much spam lately as there used to be.
I can not remember who was the last mod but I can clearly see that so many of them are not active in moderation. The forum moderation is not incentivize much too, I get this idea from some other mods who actually think it's a volunteering job. It may sound exciting to be a forum mod but when you are not receiving much in return then basically you become slow. Feeling less responsible ultimately disappears the enthusiasm.

We can create many sub-boards but getting used to with the new boards and moving topics to the new boards is going to be a lot of work. The culture we created does not look, it has a good potential.
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