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Author Topic: Ratimov is deleting self-moderated topics. He now goes onto my Ignore list.  (Read 1614 times)
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October 25, 2023, 03:49:12 PM
Last edit: October 25, 2023, 04:25:01 PM by GazetaBitcoin
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Ratimov's garbage topics

The epic moment when even a mod says that Ratimov is a shitposter. I've been waiting that for years. Finally, the truth prevailed!

I don't have the authority to ban users.

LMAO!

(That also explains, perhaps, how Ratimov managed to dodge the ban for plagiarism.)

Later edit:

I am frustrated to see the forum moderation became so poor over the years. If one user was [mis]using you all officials then I have no idea how many others are unnoticed so far.

So he did not fool only a few hundreds users, which merited all his plagiarism. He fooled the entire system, since mods can't even ban him. Facepalm.

And now mods are also actively contributing to his attempts of deleting any remaining evidence of plagiarism. All good.

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October 25, 2023, 05:17:26 PM
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If a post is being deleted I think we can find them on ninjastick.space so doesn't it mean the record can't be traced anymore or doesn't it mean poster thought none will find out those post that was deleted by him?
In my opinion if a post can easily be traced using ninjastick.space then to what value does it worth people keep deleting their post if there are no way to clear their bad records, and doesn't it make any sense to delete instead we should learn from our past mistakes. I know how painful it's when we reply on a thread and the post got deleted whereby the op sets it on a self moderated topics, again I can't go into detail to deliberate what happened because I can see myself as someone who is yet to stand and starts digging on errors most times following cases makes us learn to correct our lapses.

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October 25, 2023, 06:02:21 PM
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And now mods are also actively contributing to his attempts of deleting any remaining evidence of plagiarism. All good.

Is my English so bad that you don't understand? Or are you trying to troll? What is not clear in what I wrote above? Moderators do NOT delete posts and information from Ratimov's topics. He does it himself. Moderators only delete EMPTY topics that nobody needs. What good will it do if these topics remain in the section as they are? Who needs them? There is nothing there anyway.

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You could simply provide the evidence to your campaign manager, he'd understand and would count your posts by date of posts, not total count.
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October 25, 2023, 06:24:32 PM
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Ratimov's garbage topics

The epic moment when even a mod says that Ratimov is a shitposter. I've been waiting that for years. Finally, the truth prevailed!


I'll add my 3 cents.
It seems that the period of insults has already passed, and it was said that members of the DT should behave with restraint.
The word insult “rat”( кpыca) in Russian is very bad; for such an insult the opponent’s face will be beaten no less than for telling the opponent to go to hell or saying bad things about his mother or relatives.
Maybe in English this is not a very strong insult, but in Russia such words can cause death. And any verbal phrases associated with distorting the opponent’s last name usually lead to fights or murders.
Ratimov is not a nickname, but a real surname. And you, intentionally or unintentionally, continue to insult your opponent.


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October 25, 2023, 06:28:30 PM
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I'll add my 3 cents.
It seems that the period of insults has already passed, and it was said that members of the DT should behave with restraint.
The word insult “rat”( кpыca) in Russian is very bad; for such an insult the opponent’s face will be beaten no less than for telling the opponent to go to hell or saying bad things about his mother or relatives.
Maybe in English this is not a very strong insult, but in Russia such words can cause death. And any verbal phrases associated with distorting the opponent’s last name usually lead to fights or murders.
Cause of death? That's funny. “Rat” in both the French and Russian lexicon just means “to sneak around.”

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October 25, 2023, 06:34:17 PM
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In my opinion if a post can easily be traced using ninjastick.space then to what value does it worth people keep deleting their post if there are no way to clear their bad records

The reason is the following: out of 3.5M users of the forum, I guess that 10.000 at most know about ninjastic.space, thus Ratimov can hide his plagiarism from more than 3M users (which could also shower him in merits for work which is not his). Besides, there's also a ton of non-registered visitors of the forum, which also have no idea about ninjastic.space, and they would also never know that "so-good-contributor Ratimov" is, in fact, a plagiarist and a Trust abuser,


If someone wants to correct their past by deleting their past (even though their past still exist) [...]

Let me rephrase that for you: If a thief wants to correct their past by deleting their traces (even though their past still exist) [...]

You could simply provide the evidence to your campaign manager, he'd understand and would count your posts by date of posts, not total count.

I highly doubt that LV's problem with his topic is his number of posts for this week of the campaign he is enrolled.

In fact, LV already clarified that.

isn't better not to embarrass someone for their past behaviour?

That would be a thief feeling embarrassed oh no.

Maybe they are trying to fix the mistakes if you give them enough time.

This is precisely what he is doing. Deleting evidence that he plagiarized and abused Trust system.



Is my English so bad that you don't understand?

I guess it is. But not that bad for me to not understand you -- it is that bad for you to understand the results of your actions.

What is not clear in what I wrote above? Moderators do NOT delete posts and information from Ratimov's topics. He does it himself.

Did I state something else in my past ~10-15 posts?

Moderators only delete EMPTY topics that nobody needs.

Yes, and this is how you are actively helping him covering his plagiarism. You are playing his game, either because of naivete or because he convinced you somehow.

What good will it do if these topics remain in the section as they are? Who needs them? There is nothing there anyway.

Let me explain. How should I put this for you to understand what you are doing...?

Picture a crime scene, okay? There is blood everywhere, finger prints etc. And before Police comes to take the existing evidence the janitor comes with a water hose, sprays water everywhere and starts to wash the floor tiles, because who needs all that mess on the floor anyway?

Some users know, indeed, about the existence of ninjastic.space. But not so many. And those empty posts were proofs that the rat tried to hide his plagiarism. And even for someone knowing about ninjastic.space it is more easy to click on a link of Ratimov's topics than accessing ninjastic.space, type topic ID, author then scroll and scroll there.

Furthermore, an image like this:



has more impact for the eye than reading a post where someone accuses someone else for various shenanigans and deleting posts for hiding his tracks etc. But when you click on that link and you see that image from above you understand in a second what the imposter did.

And now, by deleting any form of evidence from his plagiarism you are only helping him to accomplish what he actually wanted: to have all evidence deleted! In the past he fooled all the users which gave him thousands of merits and now he is fooling mods for helping him in deleting the evidence for plagiarism. Mods helping a thief! And not realizing what they're doing! This is really stunning!



The word insult “rat”( кpыca) in Russian is very bad

I am sorry, I did not realize that Ratimov was spoiling me here:

Ha ha, stupid motherfucker [...] son of a Romanian whore who was gang-raped.


in Russia such words can cause death

Oh, thank God we are not in Ratimov's own gulag! We are sooo lucky!



“Rat” in both the French and Russian lexicon just means “to sneak around.”

Lol, is that true? Smiley

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October 25, 2023, 06:37:41 PM
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I'll add my 3 cents.
It seems that the period of insults has already passed, and it was said that members of the DT should behave with restraint.
The word insult “rat”( кpыca) in Russian is very bad; for such an insult the opponent’s face will be beaten no less than for telling the opponent to go to hell or saying bad things about his mother or relatives.
Maybe in English this is not a very strong insult, but in Russia such words can cause death. And any verbal phrases associated with distorting the opponent’s last name usually lead to fights or murders.
Cause of death? That's funny. “Rat” in both the French and Russian lexicon just means “to sneak around.”
In Russian, a rat is an insignificant person who steals from his own people. But this is a brief description. Don't even think about calling people rats in Russia. This is a very offensive word for a Russian person.
The word "Rat"(кpыca) and the word to "sneak around" (пoдкpacтьcя нeзaмeтнo) in Russian have completely different meanings. I am telling you as a native Russian speaker.


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October 25, 2023, 06:41:13 PM
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In Russian, a rat is an insignificant person who steals from his own people.

I thought this is exactly what Ratimov did. Intellectual theft. Was anobody talking about something else? Now I'm confused.

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October 25, 2023, 06:57:08 PM
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In my opinion if a post can easily be traced using ninjastick.space then to what value does it worth people keep deleting their post if there are no way to clear their bad records

The reason is the following: out of 3.5M users of the forum, I guess that 10.000 at most know about ninjastic.space, thus Ratimov can hide his plagiarism from more than 3M users (which could also shower him in merits for work which is not his). Besides, there's also a ton of non-registered visitors of the forum, which also have no idea about ninjastic.space, and they would also never know that "so-good-contributor Ratimov" is, in fact, a plagiarist and a Trust abuser,

I understand now but does it has a special effect to him after a long time plagiarism?
Because from few people or few user I have came across so far their profile were knocked down for that action and I can see he has been active member of the forum for long has helped lots of people in so many ways does it means he has to face any penalty for plagiarism with his high profile.

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Let me explain. How should I put this for you to understand what you are doing...?

Now let me explain. Inappropriate comparison. There is NO pieces of evidence in these topics anymore. They are empty, what pieces of evidence do you want to see there? The author of the topics has already deleted all of them (did some work as a janitor). It's empty, do you realize that? Or don't you? What information will you get from these types of topics?

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I repeat again, the topics are empty, there is nothing there. What pieces of evidence do you see in these topics?

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October 25, 2023, 07:23:38 PM
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I understand now but does it has a special effect to him after a long time plagiarism?

Apparently, the main effect is that people finally opened their eyes and see what he did (at least, those reading thoroughly my topic). And LoyceV's topic exposed him even more, as it depicts the pathetic way Ratimov uses for deleting evidence of his plagiarism.

I can see he has been active member of the forum for long has helped lots of people in so many ways [...]

Let me help you rephrase that: "I can see he has been active member of the forum for long has helped lured lots of people in so many ways for giving him thousands merits for stealing other authors' work [...]".

does it means he has to face any penalty for plagiarism with his high profile.

Hopefully yes although, at the moment, it seems that some mods work hard like bees, together with him, for covering all proof of his plagiarism.



They are empty

Of course they are empty. The thief understood that his old posts / topics are incriminating him so he is deleting the content. And since he finished with posts incriminating him he stepped to the next level: managing to lure mods for deleting his topics as well, as he was unable to do that himself. So he started emptying his topics and you, with huge naivete, helped him achieving what he was looking for.

what pieces of evidence do you want to see there?

Precisely those empty posts. They are supreme proof that he tried to hide his misery.

It's empty, do you realize that? Or don't you?

I do. Apparently is you the one which does not understand the importance of those posts.


I repeat again, the topics are empty, there is nothing there. What pieces of evidence do you see in these topics?

That is the proof. Exactly that empty space. Posts with merits, suddenly emptied, after all his shenanigans were clearly explained, by me, with proper evidence. These shenanigans included also deleting his old posts incriminating him and emptying the topics incriminating him. Now you are eliminating any last evidence. Congrats!

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October 25, 2023, 07:50:48 PM
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Now you are eliminating any last evidence.

Yeah, it's a severe case. I see there's no use in explaining anything to you. What's wrong with you? I have nothing more to say.

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You all should be ashamed. How dare you not appreciate the hard work of copy-pasting texts from random websites into Google Translate and then into Bitcointalk. Your utter failure to provide necessary praise and admiration offended Ratimov and now we will all have to suffer the absence of this valuable content. This forum will never be the same.
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I got notification today that Ratimov deleted one my post. I was surprised because it wasn't spam, off-topic, it was made long time ago and if I'm not mistaken, he even merited it. I'm not very familiar with contraversies related with him and I don't really want to get involved in all this drama. But in past his behaviour already looked a bit strange, especially that bragging about everything what he did here. But I thought OK, some people just love themselves too much. Now I will avoid posting in his topics and wasting my time
But if he really wanted to hide traces of plagiarism or something in this way, it's just stupid. Once something is on internet, it stays here forever. Especially when we have tools which track deleted post. Yeah, you can say that not many knows Loyce.club or Ninjastick, but I think it doesn't matters that much if random Bitcointalk visitors isn't aware about. Significant part of active Bitcointalk users knows it, especially these who have more or less weight here.

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And now mods are also actively contributing to his attempts of deleting any remaining evidence of plagiarism. All good.

Is my English so bad that you don't understand? Or are you trying to troll? What is not clear in what I wrote above? Moderators do NOT delete posts and information from Ratimov's topics. He does it himself. Moderators only delete EMPTY topics that nobody needs. What good will it do if these topics remain in the section as they are? Who needs them? There is nothing there anyway.
Xal0lex do you see you are not helping but making it bad for yourself. This type of response points the fingers more to moderators. It's better to admit that you failed to act properly and was victim of Ratimov's evil plan when he use the holes. But instead you are attacking a user who actually is trying to help you [by pointing the fingers on your eyes] not to make the same mistake again in the future. If you are not a part of the plan then there are no reason for your to get upset and angry. What a mess!

I'll add my 3 cents.
It seems that the period of insults has already passed, and it was said that members of the DT should behave with restraint.
The word insult “rat”( кpыca) in Russian is very bad; for such an insult the opponent’s face will be beaten no less than for telling the opponent to go to hell or saying bad things about his mother or relatives.
Maybe in English this is not a very strong insult, but in Russia such words can cause death. And any verbal phrases associated with distorting the opponent’s last name usually lead to fights or murders.
Ratimov is not a nickname, but a real surname. And you, intentionally or unintentionally, continue to insult your opponent.
Can you be on topic with your 3 cents? Are you one of the DT supporter of Ratimov? If you are, do you think he deserves it and not dangerous for the system? Have you read the topic yet? If not then read everything before planning to write anything else. I was mistaken too.

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I got notification today that Ratimov deleted one my post. I was surprised because it wasn't spam, off-topic, it was made long time ago and if I'm not mistaken, he even merited it.
I don't know how you would feel if Ratimov deleted 5 of your posts instead of just 1. You know - he deleted 5 of my posts from his topic today, I was really surprised to see that. I obviously don't know what the problem is and what makes him do all this - but really this is never a good thing to do.

Let's be honest - this will make me more selective to make post and share opinions in self-moderated topic, regardless of whatever causes them to do it.

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Speculation is this is to hide traces of his past plagiarism, but I can't know his reasons for sure.

Ok, I have to say that whatever unpleasant opinion I had about Ratimov I was still way way too kind to him. I thought that after he got caught plagiarising he would surely have learned something, like maybe to include links. Well, he surely learned how to not get caught: (a) plagiarise images; (b) from behind paywalls. Considering that mods probably won't be enforcing plagiarism rules on an image, and/or not going out of their way to look behind paywalls - brilliant strategy.

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2022 has turned out to be terrible for most crypto investors. Crash after crash, continuous disappointments, price drops and bankruptcies. Probably one of the most difficult times for the entire crypto industry in its entire 13-year history. Below is an infographic of how the crypto market was shrinking throughout 2022 and what events contributed to this:




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Edit: The first image is a screenshot from the Bloomberg article, not merely hotlinking or copy-pasting an image. The chart on Bloomberg website is not an image, it's text overlaid on a background image or perhaps on some SVG contraption, not sure. Anyway, this is functionally equivalent to copy-pasting text except he took a screenshot. The second image is more convoluted. He may have made a GIF out of multiple PNGs taken from the Bloomberg article.



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October 26, 2023, 12:21:40 AM
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What is wrong with those images? Did he claim to make them himself? Images with copyrights have watermarks anyways, and his topic is of an informative nature, and one of them has a data source.

Did you claim that you wrote this shitpost yourself?

Generally we don't do that, it's the implied default unless stated otherwise. And it's not about copyright. Copying something that's not protected by copyright/watermark/etc would still be plagiarism.

The "data source" is referring to part of the data (market cap information) that Bloomberg used in the chart, it has nothing to do with Ratimov lifting Bloomberg's work and posting here without reference.
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Let's say he wants to fix the mistakes he made in the previous days, but what could be the reason for deleting others' posts from a self-moderated topic? Fortunately, I did not post in his self-moderated threads, so none of my posts were deleted. But he managed to delete his posts from Gazeta's thread and managed to make all my replies merge and delete the original posts.

So basically, he is trying to punish everyone by deleting their posts, but I doubt it's any kind of punishment. I don't think any active forum members will be affected. But it's disrespectful.

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