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581  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] From Satoshi to the World -1oz Ag .01BTC CryptoImperator Coin on: December 24, 2023, 01:25:25 AM
Right below firstbits, 052?

#52 correct. Thanks.



High Bid
0.0123 btc
582  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INFO] Krypto Keepsafes on: December 23, 2023, 10:45:17 PM
Things have been silient for quite a while. There hasn't been any new releases for 2023. It is likely the company will disappear soon.

Too bad, 'cuz I've bought every single chip released by them (except the Stellar version). Has anyone managed to get in touch with Mr. Hockin? Sad

I'd bet every satoshi I've ever had or will that this company is part of this.  They may be "nice" but they are shady af...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351100.0

Did they ever make things right with that polka coin or whatever that they owed people, anyone know?  

They never replaced the bullshit key chips I bought, went silent… fuckin rug… hope they get hacked & get hemorrhoids!


You guys should leave them negative trust. You two are not alone in having been ripped off by this company. Not responding to customers, taking down their instagram (which had bought fake followers) as well as twitter as that no one can call them out publicly …they sadly are exactly who I thought they were.
583  Economy / Collectibles / Re: 11th of 13 days of Xmas on: December 23, 2023, 10:30:51 PM
14- ChiBitCTy

Much appreciated, thank you !
584  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] From Satoshi to the World -1oz Ag .01BTC CryptoImperator Coin on: December 23, 2023, 10:15:32 PM
What's the serial #?

I just inspected the coin without the capsule and don’t see where it’s listed. I think he sometimes use to put them on the holo but don’t see one on it either. Any guidance from someone would be appreciated!



(Note how much better it looks without a capsule. I sure wish I could take decent pics as it looks much better to the naked eye).
585  Economy / Collectibles / Re: My Cold Keys Just Got Swiped! All Cold Kuntz!! on: December 23, 2023, 01:01:59 AM
I’ve been hesitant to read or reply to anything regarding the Yogg rug or the dispersal of funds from the auctions lately because I was getting mad every time I came to the forum & this is supposed to be our happy place haha

My last 2 thoughts.

1. Refund the 2 members who were rugged & refused Cygan’s offer like right now…
chronicsky - 0.055BTC
Mitchell - 0.0125BTC

2. Precious’ idea of letting the auction donators decide outcome of the remaining funds is likely the best since it’s a small group of members.

Hopefully we can get this shit behind us.  And fuck you fat pussy-faced Yogg 🖕

I hear ya, but this is something that everyone needs to work together to get straightened out.  Kialara/Max and I are good friends, and chat often.  We were chatting last night and I happened to mention this ordeal here with the funds not having been paid out yet.  He was under the impression that funds would go directly to those who had cards swept, period.  Not for loans, or cards never received, cards swept that people chose to not sweep and take the risk etc.  Max donated $10,000 nearly a year ago now, and here we are.  He didn't state much more outside of just sharing what he thought the funds were to go to.

This is my feelings, not his... but I think at this point, every donator should be given the opportunity to receive their funds back, or choose to leave it inside this mess in hopes that it'll actually be paid out eventually.  I think this is the right thing to do at this point.  I mean imagine donating money to a cause and they literally sit on it for a year, not putting the money to good use as intended, with no resolution in sight.

I know this was all don with good intentions, but cmon guys, this is now just ridiculous.  

Donators donated items, not funds, so how would this be done?

Sale price of their items.  Nothing is ideal here, but that's the only thing I can think of at this point that mkaes sense and would be fair to the donators.

ok...
So seems like pay back Mitchell, chronicksy, cygan and the donators.
That would probably use up most of the funds Huh

This is such a mess.

I just don't think this group can come to a consensus.  I can see how some people feel some stuff should be given charity funds, other stuff shouldn't, and there's valid points on both sides.  The only option that's not valid is suing Yogg.  

Donators get option to have their sale price of donated items back...no one donated thinking this is what would happen.  I think this is only fair.

Edit : Donators should be given sale funds back period. This would be the cleanest way. If they decide to donate it back somehow fine.
586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2023-2024 betting on: December 23, 2023, 12:50:58 AM
I put a few Satoshis down on the Chicago Bulls versus San Antonio Spurs last night.  The bulls (my favorite team) have certainly been a mixed bag of things, but I felt pretty confident with the way they've been playing without Zach Lavine.  I now only wish I had bet more lol.

What is the deal with VICTOR WEMBANYAMA only getting 5 rebounds? I only slightly watched as I had the game on while I was doing other things around the house.  But only 5 boards from him seems crazy.
587  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INFO] Krypto Keepsafes on: December 23, 2023, 12:23:20 AM
Things have been silient for quite a while. There hasn't been any new releases for 2023. It is likely the company will disappear soon.

Too bad, 'cuz I've bought every single chip released by them (except the Stellar version). Has anyone managed to get in touch with Mr. Hockin? Sad

I'd bet every satoshi I've ever had or will that this company is part of this.  They may be "nice" but they are shady af...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351100.0

Did they ever make things right with that polka coin or whatever that they owed people, anyone know?  
588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: December 22, 2023, 11:59:29 PM
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On another note I could use some help from everyone.  My quarterbacks for the other btalk league are Flacco, Browning, and Mr Unlimited.  Flacco has the best matchups, Browning has been tearing it up (maybe no Chase), and Wilson is just always pretty steady eddy but his upside is limited..what do you guys think?

With a gun to my head, i'd take Wilson or Flacco over Browning. Browning does a lot of short horizontal passes/screens, and i wouldn't trust him with Chase out. The Steelers are in a must-win situation, and i don't think they can do it with their offense. Rudolph and Trubisky are terrible, so it has to be their defense, expect a low-scoring game.

It's a long shot but Mullens could be a decent shout this week. The Vikings have playmakers on offense, and the Lions have given up points when playing away from home. This game also features the highest over/under of the four. If i had Addison, Jefferson, or Hockenson on my team though, i'd probably avoid Mullens since you don't want to be overexposed.

Who did you have at QB to begin the season?

I'm deciding between him Flacco and Tua myself. Brutal choice. Smiley

Why they had to bench Howell and torpedo my plans for the playoffs is beyond me. Smiley


Thanks for the education on shrinking images down.. appreciate it!

Man, Flacco, Browning, Wilson...talk about a difficult decision. I think I did pretty well for a 12 man league.  What hurts is wondering what could have been had I not lost Burrow and Chubb in this league.  I had such a massive game last week I just know this week I'll get burnt.  Olave had a nice game , Kyren had a decent game but not like he's been playing lately.  Lastly Alvin Kamara took a massive dump on me.  His worst game of the year, OF COURSE. Grrrr



(trying to shrink these but keep doing it wrong.  Will work on it a bit later.  I def been meaning to do this for some time)
589  Economy / Collectibles / [Auction] From Satoshi to the World -1oz Ag .01BTC CryptoImperator Coin on: December 22, 2023, 10:44:46 PM

AUCTION TERMS

Item for Sale: From Satoshi to the World -1oz Fine Silver-.01BTC Funded-Mintage: 100 total coins

Bid Format: ".001BTC"   BTC

Starting Bid: 0.01BTC BTC

Minimum Bid Increment: 0.0001BTC BTC

Auction End Time:  Saturday Dec 30th, 6PM Eastern Standard Time (New York time) Countdown Clock...https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=179&iso=20231230T18&year=2023&month=12&day=30&hour=18&min=0&sec=0&msg=CI%20Coin%20Auction%20

Sniping: No sniping. 10 minute standard sniping rule. All lots extended with any bid to any lot...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277761.0

Shipping: Paid for by buyer. Ships from USA. Buyer responsible for any and all customs/duties

Payment Address: TBD- NOTE-I WILL NEVER CONTACT YOU OFF OF THE FORUM FOR PAYMENT-BE AWARE OF POTENTIAL SCAMS  

Payment Due: Within 48 hours

Escrow: Available at cost of buyer

Original Sales Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092678.msg49027612#msg49027612





(apologies, I can't take a decent photo to save my life.  Coin looks much much better in hand)
590  Economy / Collectibles / Re: My Cold Keys Just Got Swiped! All Cold Kuntz!! on: December 22, 2023, 10:04:17 PM
I’ve been hesitant to read or reply to anything regarding the Yogg rug or the dispersal of funds from the auctions lately because I was getting mad every time I came to the forum & this is supposed to be our happy place haha

My last 2 thoughts.

1. Refund the 2 members who were rugged & refused Cygan’s offer like right now…
chronicsky - 0.055BTC
Mitchell - 0.0125BTC

2. Precious’ idea of letting the auction donators decide outcome of the remaining funds is likely the best since it’s a small group of members.

Hopefully we can get this shit behind us.  And fuck you fat pussy-faced Yogg 🖕

I hear ya, but this is something that everyone needs to work together to get straightened out.  Kialara/Max and I are good friends, and chat often.  We were chatting last night and I happened to mention this ordeal here with the funds not having been paid out yet.  He was under the impression that funds would go directly to those who had cards swept, period.  Not for loans, or cards never received, cards swept that people chose to not sweep and take the risk etc.  Max donated $10,000 nearly a year ago now, and here we are.  He didn't state much more outside of just sharing what he thought the funds were to go to.

This is my feelings, not his... but I think at this point, every donator should be given the opportunity to receive their funds back, or choose to leave it inside this mess in hopes that it'll actually be paid out eventually.  I think this is the right thing to do at this point.  I mean imagine donating money to a cause and they literally sit on it for a year, not putting the money to good use as intended, with no resolution in sight.

I know this was all don with good intentions, but cmon guys, this is now just ridiculous. 

Donators donated items, not funds, so how would this be done?

Sale price of their items.  Nothing is ideal here, but that's the only thing I can think of at this point that mkaes sense and would be fair to the donators.
591  Economy / Collectibles / Re: My Cold Keys Just Got Swiped! All Cold Kuntz!! on: December 22, 2023, 09:53:29 PM
I’ve been hesitant to read or reply to anything regarding the Yogg rug or the dispersal of funds from the auctions lately because I was getting mad every time I came to the forum & this is supposed to be our happy place haha

My last 2 thoughts.

1. Refund the 2 members who were rugged & refused Cygan’s offer like right now…
chronicsky - 0.055BTC
Mitchell - 0.0125BTC

2. Precious’ idea of letting the auction donators decide outcome of the remaining funds is likely the best since it’s a small group of members.

Hopefully we can get this shit behind us.  And fuck you fat pussy-faced Yogg 🖕

I hear ya, but this is something that everyone needs to work together to get straightened out.  Kialara/Max and I are good friends, and chat often.  We were chatting last night and I happened to mention this ordeal here with the funds not having been paid out yet.  He was under the impression that funds would go directly to those who had cards swept, period.  Not for loans, or cards never received, cards swept that people chose to not sweep and take the risk etc.  Max donated $10,000 nearly a year ago now, and here we are.  He didn't state much more outside of just sharing what he thought the funds were to go to.

This is my feelings, not his... but I think at this point, every donator should be given the opportunity to receive their funds back, or choose to leave it inside this mess in hopes that it'll actually be paid out eventually.  I think this is the right thing to do at this point.  I mean imagine donating money to a cause and they literally sit on it for a year, not putting the money to good use as intended, with no resolution in sight.

I know this was all don with good intentions, but cmon guys, this is now just ridiculous. 
592  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [SEEKING][ChiBitCTy???] Anyone have contact with ChiBitCTy?! on: December 22, 2023, 09:40:02 PM
To update mx12 and to share my story as a warning/lesson I suppose to everyone else.  FedEx will not deliver to a USPS PO Box no matter what.  It's in fact illegal to even do so. 

Here's where FedEx has lost my business forever going forward.  First, they didn't let mx12 know that they couldn't deliver to a PO Box.  Why on earth wouldn't they ?! Then when FedEx called me to verify my shipping information, they left me the regular home office number here in the US.  They did so despite the fact of knowing that it's literally impossible to get through to someone when you're the receiver.  I tried tricking the system many different ways to no avail. 

I get a call late yesterday evening from a lovely lady at FedEx.  She told me she saw my item on the belt that takes packages to to be, and here's the kicker...destroyed.  It arrived Dec 11th, made one attempt to contact me, left a phone number to return call that won't work, and then decided instead of trying to reach back out to me (even after mx12 contacted them to provide my email as a source to reach me) that they would just destroy it.  The woman said she noticed how it hadn't been there very long, and stated she just didn't feel right letting this thing go to be destroyed after only having been there for less than two weeks. 

Fuck FedEx.  This is some horse shit piss poor business practices.  I mean, they couldn't contact the sender to try and arrange a return?  The laziness and lack of giving a shit is across the board with this one. 

So just an FYI/Lesson learned here I wanted to share.
593  Economy / Collectibles / Re: My Cold Keys Just Got Swiped! All Cold Kuntz!! on: December 21, 2023, 10:58:32 PM
not to sound like an ass - whether I "need" it or not - I want my money back - fuck yogg - fuck scamkey - fuck anyone who would befriend you to just fuck you over and then later call you and tell you why he did it and then does it again.

Fuck that guy. Hope I never see him.


I hear ya and agree they should go to card holders first then to loans. Prob is loans aren’t as transparent and I feel a different thing entirely. Though if funds are still left after card holders are taken care of (again I want nothing as I didn’t lose much and I’d rather those who lost more have it).  But of course the issue is even this for some reason can’t be agreed upon.

Would you agree if we can’t , donators should decide ?

Edit : ageeed. Thats why I shared the story of our convo. It’s honestly a twilight zone feel. That dude is beyond fd up.
594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: who Want To Bet On 2024 USA elections? on: December 21, 2023, 10:04:49 PM
All this drama will end up giving more mileage to Donald Trump. Removing a candidate from running for election is something that usually happens in authoritarian countries such as North Korea and Russia. If the Democrats are moving towards such a system, then it means that they are afraid of competition and want to ban the opposition. Democrats can't decide who will be the candidate from the GOP. And the most laughable thing is that they are doing this in Colorado, a state where Trump has minimal chances of winning.

I have learn something about politic, emotion is out of the game and that is what some of us don't understand. If Donald Trump is guilty of the charges, there is no need for the side talk because he can't do anything but this are supreme court judgement, he can go further to the federal supreme court to appeal his case and I believe he will be heard and such matter is something they can't play because the world is wathcing and they wouldn't jeopardize the reputation of the judicial in the US just because they don't want to see Trump contest for 2024 election.

I don't like Biden system of government but definitely, Trump is not what I look forward to win because the US doesn't revolve around this two, there should be other candidate that can take the task and give America the best they need and not this two using lives and properties for their own selfish interest, I can't forget Trump and the dramas he made the world face during his tenure even though some how I like his leadership for been feared but he talk too much, there is a way North Korea is been fear but doens't talk much.

Your point is well taken.  To me I think it's insane to like either of these candidates, and the fact that it's already a forgone conclusion that it'll be Biden vs Trump (I have no doubts that Trump will still end up being able to run) is insane.  They are both losing their minds and unfit for office.  This is what's going to make this race so difficult to bet on.  If you're not in the US then it's probably difficult to grasp how much damage these two dinosaurs have done to the nation. 

This is truly going to be the most difficult election to bet on IMO. As of right now it's a complete dart throw.  But, we'll see how thing shake out in what is sure to be miserable time for us Americans.
595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: December 21, 2023, 09:58:14 PM
Saw this and thought it was hilarious!

Quote
The Giants are mathematically alive for both the playoffs and the No. 2 overall pick in the draft.


@ChiBitCTy, you should shrink images when quoting them.

You're right.  I'm horrible with that kind of stuff.  I feel so out of place with all you guys being so good with PC stuff.  Mind if I ping you on Discord for a tutorial, or perhaps there's something here I could refer to?



On another note I could use some help from everyone.  My quarterbacks for the other btalk league are Flacco, Browning, and Mr Unlimited.  Flacco has the best matchups, Browning has been tearing it up (maybe no Chase), and Wilson is just always pretty steady eddy but his upside is limited..what do you guys think? 
596  Economy / Collectibles / Re: My Cold Keys Just Got Swiped! All Cold Kuntz!! on: December 21, 2023, 09:42:39 PM
I agree. its been damn near a year and the auction funds are just sitting in a wallet hanging out. Instead of trying to get everyone to agree, maybe give the donators the choice in what happens to them. Easier to get 30 people to agree than the whole forum.

If it was up to me, we would find a worthwhile charity who actually could use the funds for good and give it to them. At least then the funds do some good instead of lining the pockets of those not in need of it. 

either way - make a decision. imagine how much more difficult it gets when btc hits 100k!

BUMP for the community to actually do something with these auction funds

I was thinking this same thing as well.  Truth is most of us here aren't struggling in life. (I know this is not the case across the board).  I don't want my money back, I want it to go to someone who needs it more than I do.  Loans shouldn't be a part of the equation at all.  Funds being sent to those who's cards got swept should be top priority.  Anything else seems crazy to me.  Worst of all the idea of suing him.  It still blows my mind that people see this as viable after I literally consulted an EU attorney completely in-tune with this exact scam (as well as several of my close attorney friends here in the US) whom all stated it's a complete waste of time. They know what's best, not me nor anyone else here whos not an attorney. 

Maybe there's a great charity that helps victims of fraud that could really benefit from this.  Again lets be real, most of us don't need this money.  We knew the risks we were taking. 

As PM said, and I agree..lets let the donators decide.  But let's actually fucking do something already.
597  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTS- Crypto Imperator 10,000 bits Bitcoin Ed. Coin on: December 21, 2023, 09:30:39 PM
To spice this up a bit...going to throw in this magazine.  It's in pretty near mint condition.  Sourced myself by running all over Chicago and finally finding one place that had these still in stock.  One of the more popular collectible mags in recent memory.  



Item has sold. Locking thread.
598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Michael Jordan a gambling addict ? on: December 21, 2023, 09:23:09 PM
He takes care of his family, far from broke and gambling brings him entertainment.. so my question, would MJ be considered an addict?  I argue he's not.  He just loves to do it, but any negative effects may be literally zero ..


Wiki Definition "Addiction is a neuropsychological disorder characterized by a persistent and intense urge to use a drug or engage in a behaviour that produces natural reward, despite substantial harm and other negative consequences. Repetitive drug use often alters brain function in ways that perpetuate craving, and weakens (but does not completely negate) self-control.[1] This phenomenon – drugs reshaping brain function – has led to an understanding of addiction as a brain disorder with a complex variety of psychosocial as well as neurobiological (and thus involuntary)[a] factors that are implicated in addiction's development.[2][3][4] Classic signs of addiction include compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli, preoccupation with substances or behavior, and continued use despite negative consequences. Habits and patterns associated with addiction are typically characterized by immediate gratification (short-term reward),[5][6] coupled with delayed deleterious effects (long-term costs).[3][7]"

I think he is an obvious gambling addict and after watching his documentary I feel even more secure in feeling that way.  Michael Jordan has a gambling problem definitely and even though he is tremendously successful and could gamble away a million dollars a day for the rest of his life and be fine, that doesn't change that he is an addict.  Given the definition you are referencing above, I would say he most definitely had his life/career negatively effected by gambling, but then you'd have to believe the conspiracy that he was suspended for the 1994 and 1995 seasons for betting on his team and possibly even the reason his father was murdered...


Yeah see I was hoping someone would bring that in to the conversation.  I had heard the whole leaving the league for the year conspiracy deal..but man, MJ brought back basketball.  He's the best thing to ever happen to the game..I really doubt this was Sterns call..but who knows.  His dad dying because of gambling debts, that to me is more realistic..but who knows.


Thanks everyone for your responses. I'm not sure there's a clear cut answer but I like see the different thoughts. Sharing this with my buddy who I was arguing about this with me.  Going to lock this now out of respect for Hilarious and Cyrus's time..anything more would just be redundant at this point.  Cheers ya'll.
599  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTS- Crypto Imperator 10,000 bits Bitcoin Ed. Coin on: December 21, 2023, 09:03:02 PM
Is it the exact coin in the picture that you’re selling? Ty

That it is
600  Economy / Collectibles / *SOLD *WTS- Crypto Imperator 10,000 bits Bitcoin Ed. Coin on: December 21, 2023, 08:52:57 PM
Up for sale - Crypto Imperator 10k Bits Bitcoin Edition Coin.  An earlier days coin, built in 2014 (meaning it has all forks).  

Buy it now Price: .021BTC  (Recent auction showing it's current market value - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5476095.0 )








Throw in:


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Payment Address: TBD (FYI- I WILL NEVER MESSAGE YOU OFF OF BITCOINTALK, DO NOT GET FOOLED BY A SCAMMER)

Payment Due: Within 48 hours

Escrow: Available at cost of buyer
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