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5801  Economy / Gambling / Re: Rollbit.com | Crypto's Most Rewarding Casino 👑 on: January 24, 2023, 11:27:57 PM
so what would be the advantage of a casino creating an altcoin? honestly I don't see an advantage

In this case, the RLB is created for the Rollbit lottery so there is a merit right there by only using the RLB on the lottery that means alot of people will actually have decent chance to win something out of the lottery as some top holder might not to participate in the lottery due to all the hassle of needing to stake it all the time to join the lottery
Several businesses are creating their token, but the truth of the matter is that, tokens that have no usecase would eventually become a shitcoin in the long run.
Like slow death said, I also do not see any benefit in creating a token, yes, it might help more people make some winnings from Rollbit's lottery, but the big question should be what will be the market price of the token?
If some one should win 1 million RBL tokens from the lottery, and each of the tokens are worth $0.000003 in the open market, do you think the 1 million tokens won makes any sense.?.
Well, I don't see anything wrong with each of the platforms wanting to have their own token, and I come out that I see it well, however I would like them to launch different tokens, that is, with a limited capitalization of it, for example: the limitation of the BTC is 21 million, and up to now a deflationary economy has been made, so if a casino runs at least one toekns that has 10 MILLION, something very interesting will be done, because that would already become a deflationary economy with the passage of time and its toekns would be quite valued and that would attract investors, I think that if there is a casino that leans in that direction, it would be doing something different, and it could do well.

5802  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: January 24, 2023, 11:01:32 PM
Roobet is indeed a reputable casino and they gained the trust of many gamblers here. Since their launch in this forum, they established their casino by proving their platform is trustworthy. In my experience playing on Roobet, I never had any issues, I just enable the 2fa when I withdraw. Anyway, I agree that it is not really advisable to store our money in our casino account (or any centralized platforms) no matter how secure the platform is, just to be safe.
This is why many gamblers trust this platform that much, all they have to do is to be more careful and secure their money at all cost, gamblers should not let their emotions takeover because you still have to think for the best security and that is not to store too much money on any gambling site. Enabling 2FA is a good one, you just need to keep all your back-up keys on a more secure place.
Without a doubt, I would never doubt a casino like Roobet, they have a great reputation and it is not to be distrusted, of course if we review some accusations that have been made against the casino, we strongly rule out that the casino is fraudulent, there are many users who they always want to take advantage of possible vulnerabilities or something (this is normal in all casinos, trolls and things like that) usually Roobet has a lot of new things to do, the contests are quite good, I like what it has to do with art, although to be honest I don't have an ounce of talent, I like it because they do something very different.

So there is more Brand Ambassador for Roobet and this time it's Bruce Buffer the voice behind UFC match announcement so if you are fan of it you would immediately recognise him

Brand Ambassador of Roobet

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Veteran Voice of the Octagon”, Bruce Buffer. If you happen to be a UFC fan, then this guy needs no introduction. You’ll instantly recognize him as the official octagon announcer and professional ring announcer for MMA.



Here’s what he had to say about joining forces with the Roobet family:



“Ladies and gentlemen of Roobet! I’m so happy to be part of the team. In 2023 and beyond, let’s make it all happen and be the champions we are to the world, because now, it’s time for Rooooooobet!”

So it's amazing for the fans and who have wagered in the latest fight to get new winner.

Well I join this and all my congratulations to Robbet for having Bruce Buffer as an ambassador, it is a great success, and this will make Robbet much more influential in all aspects of the casino, it will attract players from the UFC and like Bruce Buffer is a natural influencer, I think everything he says will be followed, and it may be en masse.




Source: https://twitter.com/Roobet/status/1617100195245826051

Great for Roobet, I like that from now on they do things like this because every day they are betting on innovation and this is something that continues to attract, good for the team.
5803  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Best casinos that gives dividends to token holders? on: January 24, 2023, 10:00:40 PM
I am not going to deny that for me the best casino in terms of dividends and that their hand did not tremble when paying was Betfury, but I have seen that the casino is a bit at a standstill with its things, both in marketing and in many things, for me this is one of the best casinos in terms of dividends, on the other hand in freebitco.in with the FUN tokens they give many benefits for the players who are holders, I see that those who have fun tokens are more like that, but not in having hopes that the price will rise and it will be possible to win as it is done in other currencies, here with these casinos you can see other things, in Rollbit things are going in another direction with the NFTs.
5804  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recommendations for Real Cryptocurrency Casinos on: January 24, 2023, 09:40:56 PM
Whenever we can emphasize what is wanted for OP, it is that he can have a great range in terms of what his budget yields and that he can play a lot (at least that is what every player wants) the second thing that is sought it is that the player is prosperous and to achieve that he has to earn a lot, so that is where the best platforms are sought. Cryptocurrencies are the best way to take money anywhere in the world instantly, this is one of the things that can be taken advantage of, therefore, when it comes to recommending casinos, you have to see the most reputable ones and launch yourself without fear and venture out .
 
Now, a very important point, when there is an accusation of a casino that is a scam, you have to be very careful, I would recommend being extremely careful when dealing with that casino, here the forum has the particularity of being able to get feedback to be able to have a better precision of how things are going with that casino.
5805  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io|🎁Welcome Pack on BetFury| 💸300 Free Spins + 150% Deposit Bonus on: January 24, 2023, 08:30:41 PM
well that's what I mean. maybe not reputation but rather just oblivion and if any new gambler jumps into this forum looking for online casinos it will definitely be quicker to see casinos that still have signature campaigns. because usually new gamblers who have just joined this forum are looking for a good online casino, they don't know about the gambling board and sometimes they only see the signatures of forum members.

but back to the main topic, I hope that Betfury will still run its signature campaign, even if it only selects a small number of forum members so that it will still be seen or not forgotten.
They can allocate from the promotion funds to run new signature campaigns to increase their promotion in the forum, you may be right about the statement above that everyone will see the signature code of each account to be added to the list of gambling platforms, so apart from increasing traffic to gambling websites but also increase the trust of gamblers, signature promotions are very effective to support the increase of new users, increase the reputation of the casino and casino revenue will further increase.

Well, a while ago when some casinos were starting up, I recommended that signature campaigns were something that is very good, whatever is in favor of marketing that pays for itself over time, at that time I received no criticism, and they tried to make fun of it, but in itself I don't care, because I know that they lack sense and they still don't have a very good financial culture and obviously they don't have a business development thought, therefore the business model is obviously a success with signature campaigns, If not, let's look at stake.com, bitcasino.io, duelbits, rollbit, roobet, and many more companies that I would not be able to name them all, then a simple logic, nobody is going to give away money, they know that if a signature campaign is executed it will bring clients, traffic and good players, I hope Betfury sees this, they need this, and they themselves know that from the beginning they hooked everyone because they invested in marketing campaigns.

I would guess that even if the price being not so high is a trouble for them, they were not trusting the token price to be high to keep the business going, but they probably didn't believe that they could spend money on something that wasn't profitable at the moment neither.

And that is okay, if they do not want to, they do not have to, they as a business could avoid that and it's their right, if your decision for this is to leave and find a place that keeps on developing, or already developed higher, then it's your decision and I can't comment on that too much, whatever you want to do is your own decision. I will come here time to time no matter how much developed it is.
That's true, if you are a casino with a token that means the token means something for your business overall. It may not be the only one, if some whale comes in tomorrow and wagers 100 bitcoins away, that means they just made 20 million dollars in a single day because the whale gambled it and lost it.

However, what are the odds of that? So, it's better to have a sustainable way of making money which would be having the token at a higher price, not because they would sell, but they would make more money as well instead of just the customers. This is why it's crucial for the bull market to come back, to keep this company alive, hell we see bankrupting companies like collapse of ftx during bear period, so bull is needed for ALL crypto related companies.

In Betfury case. They are using the BFG tokens for there marketing expenses which cause the price of there native token slip continuously. They are sacrificing the token value for now to promote the casino since it will be the one who will contribute a stable profit rather than prioritize on making there token price higher because we all know that it’s just a temporary profit compared when Betfury casino is having a stable good income coming from the customers that they attract through promotion using token.

Betfury is now one of the biggest web3 casino available in the market that generates huge income. I think there early sacrifices for there token is now giving a good effect because they can do now token burn to slowly built the price up.

It would be good if they could increase the price of the topken, because basically when an investor wants to see the potential of the token and doesn't see that it can have a sustained surge, they simply won't be interested, I think Betfury should appeal because their token has more interesting, I don't know, let them start as they did in the beginning, make campaigns where they offer their tokens, maybe they can make their own internal forum where they give rewards in the token for posting in their forum, these things could help a lot to raise the price, but I don't know how the marketing executive thinks, maybe they are studying this type of option.
5806  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals! on: January 24, 2023, 07:21:17 PM
Right and was also saying that sometimes there are high wagering requirements which can be problem for small gamblers but this 1x is not so big and free choice of gamble is also good for players so they can wager on the game they like unlike some restricted zone which is not appreciated by many.So this is advantage situation for us.
The high wagering requirements for most promos are only for those gamblers with such funds and also typical joiners of contests in many casinos.
And if it's just x1 of the wager then it's affordable for everybody and that's the target of that promo, to make everyone participate in it. But if it eventually changes to high requirement, there's also the targeted and specific customers that they're targeting because it also includes bigger pot on the side.

Well, when there are 1x requirements, it seems to me to be something very fair, because first it would not be something free, and second it would be something that you have to work for, then this type of thing is acceptable, at least for me it is, I don't know if For other players it sounds good, however when we make comparisons with other sites there are some casinos that demand up to 10x, 20x, 30x, which seems to me at the moment almost impossible to achieve, and more when one gets impatient, so one of the casinos that I have seen that accept this type of 1x treatment is Bitcasino.io, I think that is a very good thing.

Anyone still receiving Friday bonus emails from DuelBits?
 My last email offer was 5 weeks ago and they have stopped sending emails, I don't know if it is related to my casino account or general campaign has been stopped.

I’m a receiver of this bonus before but now I don’t received anymore after the Christmas giveaway is over. The last time I received this bonus was last November and  until now, no email about it on my inbox available. There’s no one here talking about this specific bonus lately which is a clear sign that this bonus might stop last hear because user that gets this bonus typically post about it and give their experience on using it.
I have not received any email again either, because I am also a bit busy and it is difficult to keep up to date, so this is something that makes me pay more attention and enter the platform, however, Duelbits, the latest promotions that have been launched have been very good , and they are quite accepted in the forum and especially among the most demanding players, this is a casino that has emerged a lot and has comprehensive growth, basically what one looks for in a casino is that, to have security, confidence and to know that When you enter jguar you will not have problems such as withdrawals or if there is any problem, the support is ready.
5807  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Online Gaming Competition for Gamblers on: January 24, 2023, 06:50:15 PM
This is a very interesting game but since this is not a Bitcoin-based game this is not in this section it should be in the altcoin service section, I cannot consider this a casino but a gaming tournament for gamblers, the game is easy to understand and fun to play, I hope one of the casino developers will create a game similar to this but the Cryptocurrency that will be used is Bitcoin.
Yes, every casino site should, especially casino sites that are relatively new, use some top-ranking Crypto tokens that have good fundamentals such as Bitcoin ETH BNB or other stable coins, not just using Altcoins as payment for bets on their site.
This will make it easier for users to make deposits and withdrawals.
It would be even better and more attractive if the casino site manager gave a relatively small fee for a transaction because from several user complaints on other casino sites they complained about fees that tended to be rather high.

Thank you for the comment.
We do it on this WAX blockchain because there are no fees. Compared to Bitcoin, the fees are very expensive.
Indeed, if you use Bitcoin or some of the other top coins as transactions in gambling or casino betting, you have to use more capital that is needed.
However, doing so can make it easier for gamblers in all matters of transactions and what I think is that almost all gamblers who use crypto casino sites prefer to use Bitcoin and several other top coins for each of their transactions.
I'm just giving a suggestion and input, hopefully it can be useful and you can make it a recommendation in the future to be implemented.

Well, what is most sought in terms of casinos is to lower the cost of all things, especially the fees, when we enter a casino and by chance we win and we want to withdraw some funds, what we want is for it to be cheap It has happened to me that sometimes I make money, but when I go to withdraw I lack about 4-5 usd, so the only way to do it and cover the fees is to play, and there are times when I remain compromised because I am afraid of losing everything and that is something that sometimes scares anyone, and these things can be avoided if at least in BTC they have another type of fee or LN something that makes everything cheaper.
5808  Economy / Gambling / Re: What sort of Weekly & Monthly Bonuses do Bitcointalk members want? on: January 24, 2023, 05:07:24 PM
Most of sign in reward requires deposit and wagering meaning this is not totally bonus but an obligation , though there are several site that lets us sign in and play for some spin for free yet most of those ended as scam sites or not having a fair gaming.

and about loyalty? i cannot measure myself becoming loyal just because they gave me bonuses , instead how they treat me over the time i played.
that deposit is the terms and conditions that must be done to claim the bonus, how is it possible that any online casino gives a no deposit bonus, it looks suspicious.
but for me to bet on online casino make deposit for welcome bonus it's not a problem but sometimes other requirement like do 30x or 50x bet, little bit annoying. but so far I very rarely gamble just because I want to get a bonus. I often ignore bonuses.

regarding loyalty to a particular casino, it cannot be measured from anything but returns to the personal of each gambler. like I am currently loyal to online casinos for the sole reason of being comfortable.
I have only fallen into something like 2 times, because the wagering was quite demanding, apart from the deposit was not much, but the truth is that I did not complete the wagering at that time, it seemed to me that it was something quite difficult, no I could, at that moment I did not understand well, because I told myself that it was bad luck and nothing more, some time later it was on another platform that I decided to give myself the opportunity and I cannot reach wagering and unfortunately I lost, but it helped me a lot, because I understood well the system under which they operate in a casino, their way of winning, and how a casino focuses more so that customers enjoy and enjoy the game.
5809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting strategy question on: January 24, 2023, 04:10:27 PM
Strategies are just the calculated outcome...

Not really? Are you just playing around with changing definitions?
Strategy - a plan of action designed to achieve a long-term or overall aim.
e.g. Martingale is one of the most popular betting strategies but doesn't have much to do with calculating outcomes.

...
In such situation I'll go with the minimum bet value for the maximum outcome, ...

So if in the set-out scenario there's no defined minimum bet, would you just bet 1 satoshi hoping to earn 11 sats? Why even bother?

...
because few people in the world have that ability to spare money, ...

You're exaggerating a bit. No one in the developed world would go bankrupt or starve if they happened to lose $50 or $100. It could cause some inconvenience but everyone could manage. That's probably also true even for poor countries.

Average people tend to spend beyond their means (i.e. getting expensive cars on finance, buying low-nutrition junk food, paying for subscriptions they don't use etc), but that's a different story.


Although it sounds very strange to you, there are some people who live in my country and it costs them something to get the money, and 100 or even 500 usd if you can raise them a lot, at least so that they can buy their food supplies and basic things. Of course, not all of them are in the same conditions, but the vast majority are, due to the high inflation, to tell you that some people in their base salary is less than 10 USD, especially those who are professionals, the teachers are demanding that they raise their salaries. and apparently the government will not raise anything, in third world countries the problems can be very precarious, sometimes the countries in Europe and the USA are very privileged.
5810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Caleb Plant vs David Benavidez on: January 24, 2023, 03:33:57 PM
Well, I don't know, but apparently Canelo has once again given something to talk about, for his part, I don't even know if Bivol would give him a rematch, if he already went up and sees that it is convenient for him to fight Canelo, he will, otherwise I don't know if he accepts, he what he thinks is that he already beat him, so he has already passed that stage, he would have to have a lot of audience, a lot of demand to be able to fight with him and obviously they give him a lot of money, for his part now well with Benavidez And Caleb still have My doubts, I don't know who I could lean toward, some go squarely with Caleb, but due to everything he has said, there has been speculation, and in some boxing forums it is not clear to me when making a good bet.

Dmitry Bivol has no choice but to fight Canelo Alvarez again in a rematch once the latter will demand for a rematch because their contract has a rematch clause and who knows when will that expire but surely, Canelo still have the perks about the clause because their fight just happened last May 2022. As of now, we just don't know where will they contest the fight if Canelo chose to revive that clause. The winner of Benavidez-Plant might have to wait first because in the past discussion, it seems that Canelo's already fixed with getting the rematch because of course it's also a big payday.

Well in these cases, I think that Canelo, all the noise he makes is quite impressive, I have seen news about Canelo everywhere, he talks a lot on his networks, apart from that he is very courageous because he needs the revenge fight against Bivol a lot, but I think The Russian will delay that fight as much as possible, it is very obvious that the Russian does not want to fight him again, if he does he will be forced and that is something that I think no one likes, however I think there is a lot to It can happen here, the fight between Benavidez and Plant will also be important for the boxer Cnelo, everything is a matter of waiting.

Everything is ready for March, there is nothing more to say:

Caleb Plant-David Benavidez Set For March



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Former super middleweight world titlist Caleb Plant will be facing David Benavidez in the main event of a March 25th Showtime pay per view card. The fight, which will reportedly go down at the MGM Grand in Vegas, has long been expected. Indeed, Plant reported late last year that the match had been signed. Still, an actual date and location provides the public with a needed sense of certainty. This is boxing, after all, a sport where anything can’t happen (that wasn’t a typo).

Source: https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/caleb-plant-david-benavidez-set-for-march/
5811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 24, 2023, 01:32:11 PM
and good news :

Paul Pogba returns to partial training in latest step on road to Juve comeback

this guy i believe that all juventus fans no longer count on him in the team, even if he plays for juventus, it probably won't even be this season or it may be in the last games of the season and given that he stopped playing for a long time the coach of juventus will not play him right away, it will take a long time for him to play 90 minutes in juventus, the fact is that juventus did very well without him so when that happens what the team does right away is sell the player to the first interested in him

Milan are going to have a really comfortable week this time. The opponent is Lecce and this team are not much threat to Milan normally. Milan should just be careful and had better not underestimate Lecce even a bit. The reason why I'm pointing this out is Lecce's current form in the league. Because they haven't been losing a single match for five matches in the league. This would be a factor to improve their self-confidence here. They have conceded the same amount of goals with Milan so far but they are really bad at scoring.

Milan should take advantage of their weaknesses and beat them by a decent score gap like 2-0, 3-1 and so on.

i also bet that milan will win in this game but i am really 100% convinced that this will not be an easy game for milan looking at milan's bad defense and looking at the last games of lecce they had many draws and surprising victory against lazio by this is why i think milan needs to be very careful with leccer, i hope milan don't ruin my bet because i've had bad luck when i bet on them



Well, regarding Pogba, I personally think that he is a very good player, who still has a lot to give, I don't see him as a great essential player, but I cannot deny that when he grabs the ball he leaves many on the road, He has an art for dribbling and he is also a very strong player, I have seen on occasions how he takes two or 3 players on the mark, leaves them dribbling and is very fast, he seems like a bull, I don't know if you remember Vieri? They called him Toro Vieri because of the impressive way in which he took the players and dragged brands, this is something that is reflected in the games, and I think that Pogba has a very similar style.

What about Inter's game against Empoli? It seems to me that after the Milan derby, Inter have spent a lot of energy. And Empoli are a solid mid-table club, who by the way have been playing well of late. Many people think that Inter have no problem to beat Empoli, especially on their home field. But I think there might be some surprises. For example, a draw.
I think inters has more chances of winning Empoli,  this is a game Inter needs to win to  add to their point to be at the second position of the stabdings. Inters is more consistent than Empoli,  I believe Inter will lead the game.


I also think that Inter is in a good position, it's not for nothing, but also not only against Empoli, I think that now Inter has a good chance of winning not only this team but the ones that are coming, this is something. that can be seen from any point of view, Inter cannot fall like Juve, care must be taken because the league is widely dominated by Napoli and we also cannot forget the work that Roma is doing that Mourinho is breaking it well with Everything that they are contributing, I think that this team, not only here but in the Europa League, will not make anything easy for Barcelona or Manchester.

a curiosity:

Mancini offers Zaniolo advice and talks Juventus point deduction



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Italy coach Roberto Mancini gave unhappy Roma forward Nicolo Zaniolo some advice and touched on Juventus’ off-pitch troubles.

The 23-year-old Italian has asked the Giallorossi for a transfer this month as he looks for a change of scenery, disappointed with the way things have gone this season. Zaniolo was not offered the contract he wanted by Roma and the fans have started to grow tired of the player, who is struggling to show his best under Jose Mourinho.

Speaking in the Salone d’Onore of CONI, Mancini first revealed his and the Azzurri’s mantra for 2023.

“The mantra will be to rejuvenate the team, also thinking about 2024 and future prospects.”

He weighed on in Zaniolo’s ongoing transfer situation at Roma.

“I believe he is a guy with great qualities, like everyone he must make himself available to the team and exploit his talent.”

The Italy coach commented on what he’s seen in Serie A this season.

“There are some guys not playing, the usual things. Then the league is saying that Napoli are the best team.”

Source: https://football-italia.net/mancini-offers-zaniolo-advice-and-talks-juventus-point-deduction/
5812  Economy / Gambling / Re: chinese bookmakers with tf gaming platform NO KYC on: January 24, 2023, 03:18:54 AM
And now you've seen several cases where parents need to pay more attention to how their children grow and develop because they are busier with their own businesses. Their children are starting to get busy with their own world by using the devices given to them by their parents to the point that they don't pay attention to their own lives. And this is what triggers many cases of teenagers who are misdirected in socializing and some who end up committing juvenile crimes. This should not be allowed to happen to our children, especially if we care so much about their lives. After all, their life in the future will also depend on how we can educate them.

And once they find gambling can be an outlet for what is happening in their life, they will use it continuously, and it will trigger other problems where they can experience gambling addiction. And nowadays, they can get many gambling sites that will never ask them to do KYC. These sites come from countries from the west and the east that have started developing their gambling business.
I have already written here on BTT several times that I am a strong opponent of passing kyc identification when it comes to payments in cryptocurrencies. 
I am such a convinced opponent and remain.  However, your argument that teenagers can use gambling sites where there is no KYC procedure puzzled me.  Indeed, there is a danger that such children and adolescents may become addicted to gambling.  And even become addicted to gambling, which of course is very bad.  And it should be taken into account that young people and teenagers are very well versed in information technology and can easily find ways to bypass various blockages.  Perhaps protecting children and teenagers from gambling sites that are intended for adults, people of legal age with the help of KYC is the only case where I myself would also support the introduction of this identification. 

Otherwise, in the cryptocurrency market, KYC is a damn evil that needs to be fought.
I mean that teenagers can easily visit any site, including gambling sites, even though the gambling sites have KYC procedures that are difficult to pass. They can easily borrow an adult's identity to pass KYC to play gambling like adults. Especially if the teenager finds a crypto-based gambling site that doesn't strictly enforce KYC, they can skip it and start gambling. And with crypto, they can also get crypto to use for gambling. So with the convenience of today's technology, it is not difficult for teenagers to play gambling and pass KYC. Maybe that's why KYC is implemented in some casinos to protect youths and adults from KYC abuse.

Better it could not have been said, when we comply with the KYC requirements we can forget about some inconveniences that may arise, all the casinos that I have been entering have seen that they have many KYC requirements, and requirements that are quite serious, I have fulfilled some KYC that are called first level, there are other levels of KYC where they demand a lot for the documents and sometimes the documents are not in very good condition and that is the only reason they are rejected and that becomes a problem, that has happened to me many times and you When they get into things like that, I always go to another casino, it's the best solution.
Yes, going to another casino would be the best solution, especially if it involves completing KYC using more complete documents so that our accounts are verified. And with so many casinos asking us to do KYC, it seems that in the future, we will find it difficult to avoid this KYC, but hopefully, the casinos will understand that there are gamblers who play with small money and don't want KYC. And hopefully, there are still casinos that aren't too strict, so we can still play gambling without having to do KYC.

Yes, it's like I said, personally I don't have much to say if I have to provide KYC documentation, but there are some really very strict sites, and no, a lot of effort is already made when a KYC is going to be given, but be aware that it is You must have more documentation or even worse, leave everything and do not verify it because the documents do not seem clear enough, that is already something that not even a bank would bother to do, besides that I am a lazy person, that I don't like that they are bothering me for documents or something like that, so that partly bothers me, that's what happened to me with some casinos and exchanges.
5813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Artur Beterbiev vs Anthony Yarde on: January 24, 2023, 02:51:02 AM
Artur Beterbiev Not Bothered About Being on Yarde’s Home Turf



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Artur Beterbiev apparently could care less about having home court advantage.

The WBC, WBO, and IBF light heavyweight champion from Russia will face contender Anthony Yarde on Jan. 28 in Yarde’s hometown of London at Wembley Arena.

When asked, in a recent interview, if he is at all concerned about fighting in Yarde’s own backyard, Beterbiev demurred.

“I’m not focused on the city,” Beterbiev told BT Sport. “I’m not like this person [who is obsessed with location]: London, New York, Moscow, I’m not focused on city. I’m more focused on opponent."

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/artur-beterbiev-not-bothered-about-being-on-yardes-home-turf--171709


That just means that he's not seeing Anthony Yarde as a threat because he knows that a much stronger opponent will face him in the unification fight. Be it in Wembley Arena in London or anywhere inside the USA, Beterbiev just don't care because his eyes are already fixed on the price. Excuse me but this is not to disrespect Yarde and his fans but, I don't see this fight to last much longer or end in judge's decision.

Well Yarde is seen as a strong boxer, I don't know what kind of training he has taken, but it seems to me that he is a person who should not be underestimated, I know that Beterbie is a bold boxer, he has many things he can offer and he is also a boxer that he can make a difference at any time, perhaps we are used to seeing the best of him and not focusing on a Yard that probably has everything against him, I think that the reputation of every boxer here weighs a lot when it comes to having several references, but there is still a long way to go, it is a matter of waiting to see how the facts and details of this fight continue to develop.

Here's what Yarde has to say about the fight, he wanted to go for a knock out:

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"Fact. That is what I'm trying to say. I don't think it is to do with anyone but myself. I had a mindset when I started boxing and, the second I tried to change it or listen to people asking if I could go 12 rounds, I went away from what I knew.

"I know why the Kovalev fight didn't go my way, I know why the fight didn't go my way in the amateurs, I know why they gave the decision to Lyndon Arthur in the first fight.

"When all these things happened, it was when I went against my natural instinct and what I said I was going to do from the beginning.

https://www.boxingscene.com/yarde-looking-points-beterbiev-fight-he-wants-ko--171850

So meaning he want's to go 100% and look for a knockout in this fight. He doesn't want to go full 12 rounds because he knows he might get the short end of the deal again just like in his amateur fights and some on the professional ranks.

Let's see if he has want it takes to knockout the Russian here, no one has done it before though, just saying. So it will be very different for Yarde to do that unless he hurt Beterbiev very hard and then he goes for that knockout.

Well, he said it himself and provide facts indeed. The Kovalev fight didn't go his way and his amateur fights didn't go his way as well, so, the big question here is, what makes him think that defying a Russian-Canadian monster will go into his way? And why this time when he faced a much weaker opponent but still fate didn't go his way? Things are getting funnier while the fight date is getting nearer and nearer.

Probably just his self-confidence though, I mean every boxer has this idea that they can defeat anyone in the ring, even if it has a 0 lost and has been knocking down his opponents.

And it could he could larger and boost his psychology that he can defeat him because the fight is going to be in his country, so he has what we call homecourt advantage but not sure if this is true in boxing. So yeah, we will see if he has what it takes, I mean accepting it shows that he has big balls already, but facing him in the ring could be different for Yarde when he taste the first punch of Beterbiev.

If Yarde will not speak for himself, then who’s gonna do it for him? I think that’s one way of showing the public that he’s also capable to beat Beterbiev, although his own words are quite exaggerating when it comes to the public’s opinion. But let’s see if he can really prove his words, Beterbiev is a dangerous boxer, so he should outperform him so he can make an edge in the ring.

Well there are boxers we better keep quiet and then let their fist do the talking, regardless if the fight is going to happen in their homesoil or not. And for me that is the sign of a great boxer, not to fall for this kind of mental battle. Or at least have the edge because they are not going to talk in public and yet in private they will train very hard.

And so if Yarde lost this one in his home soil and with that all trash talk or self motivation, he might look very hard. It's one thing to trash talk, but to fight and back up your words is very different. On the other hand, Beterbiev just the regular boxer and don't want to engage in this kind of public spat.

Well, in that aspect you are absolutely right, I think Beterbiev will not get involved in public disputes, this is a boxer who is only interested in emerging in the sport, he is looking for whatever he can to fill with victories, titles, belts to be able to fight the fights more relevant, in itself he is also looking for what everyone else is, fame, good money, getting into the best businesses, that is what he aspires to, and I don't see it as a bad thing, he is a hungry boxer, on the other hand, Yarde is a boxer He also wants to be more recognized, for that reason I think Yarde is going to put on a good show, from what I have seen, many do not have much faith in Yarde.

Welcome to Beterbiev vs. Yarde fight week

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Promoter Frank Warren wrote: Anthony Yarde has used the word himself in recent weeks and I do suspect there is a sense of destiny about his moment of truth at Wembley on Saturday night. Defeating the undefeated powerhouse Artur Beterbiev [with three light heavyweight championships at stake] is clearly a big ask, but I firmly believe Anthony will come up with the answers and then some at the OVO Arena, which also staged his professional debut back in 2015. However, the two occasions will not be comparible in any way. When Anthony took to the pro ring for the first time it was about 5.30pm and people were still gathering outside the arena. Without employing too much hindsight, it did quickly become evident that we could be onto something special with this athletic, muscular specimen from Stratford. [Don’t miss a minute of what hopefully will be a magical night by tuning into BT Sport 1 from 7pm on Saturday.]

Source: http://www.boxingtalk.com/Welcome-to-Beterbiev-vs-Yarde-fight-week
5814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: January 24, 2023, 02:21:39 AM

And my personal assumptions is that, US, being the world power probably does not want their territories to be over populated with immigrants, this could be the reason for the so strict requirements and documentation process to enter the country.

Your assumption may not be false but they have to be ready for more people that will troop in into the state in guise of coming to watch the next world cup. USA is a cherish country desirable by many to live in, so they have to expect that to happen. Among the three countries hosting the game, USA is hosting more of the games and that means more immigration of people to USA than Mexico and Canada.
I recently saw an announcement that an important figure in the country said that he was going to impose that anyone who enters the USA illegally will be punished by taking him out of the country and beating him for 5 years,
Well, this is more of a threat than a law ??, and to be sincere, it does not look serious to me, this to me looks like one of those threat we normally receive from our parents when we  were kids, when they tell us not to do this, else we will be flogged, and out of curiosity or stubbornness, we will still end up doing that thing, and without receiving the said punishment at the end of the day.

What am I saying, a threat as thing does not seem strong enough to deter strong headed people from trying to enter USA through illegal means, even with this in place, I tell you, many will still go ahead and try to enter USA illegally just to watch the world cup when denied visa.

Well, there's nothing out of ordinary about that because that's just how the USA impose some threats because I don't think that there's some words in that phrase that needed some emphasis to help the people understand. It's just like a friendly reminder from their behalf but believe me, they will literally do that when an alien forces their way inside the country. But the thing is we won't know because surely, they won't be doing that publicly.

Well, due to the problems of some countries, we have seen that many people have entered the USA irregularly, because the things of some third world countries have forced them to do so, however in a world cup things are at a different price, they You know very well that most of the fans are from South America, and the number of visas for some countries is impressive, and these policies cannot and should not be applied, as I said before, a temporary visa should be made to be assigned to many fans, or at least those who are going to attend the games, this is so that something can be achieved in favor of the sport and that the show is maintained, this obviously applies to the countries of South America, 'because Europeans and North Americans can enter and leave any country whenever they want.
5815  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) on: January 24, 2023, 02:00:35 AM

They are both throwing accusations at each other, and I'm sure this will continue until they finalized the contract and the deal, both are trash talkers and they are going to hate each other until they face in the ring, we all hope that this will not become another Crawford - Spence scenario where they agree to fight but for some circumstances, the fight won't push through, we are tired of this kind of scenario boxers should go for legacy not for money, not because they are going to lose the zero in their ring record.

They hate each other prior to the fight and it has that been for years. And now that they fight is inching closer, I doubt that this two will simply stop. On the contrary it will be very vicious verbal jabs between the two.

We really don't know who is going to win with this trash talking, but for sure we would like to hear more of that because that is part of selling this fight to casul and hard core fans.

I really like how Ryan Garcia is talking because it will improve his value and people might think he could really beat Davis. I really don't know who will win, both have a strong chin, well for Garcia he went down once but we saw how he stand up and beat his opponent that fight. I'm really excited for this upcoming fight, we should see a very entertaining one because now they are already throwing verbal jabs.

Love hate or hate him, Ryan has this kind of personality an aura, he might be really similar to Oscar back in the days but Ryan is more brandish perhaps because he was born under the social media influence.

And just like what you said, maybe when he open his mouth like this, predicting that he will knockout Davis in 2 rounds, who knows, maybe we will believed that and bet on him specially if he is the underdog.

Well, we all know that boxers always use jargon to give more show to the show, it is normal, however it could be that some statements may turn out to be susceptible to everything a boxer can say, obviously I have not seen a boxer who praises to another opponent, or with whom he is going to fight, that would be something that I would like to see, because if a boxer talks about himself it is like praising or boasting, and yes, that falls badly, because it is best for others to glorify him and not themselves, because I don't see any point in it, however boxing and everything that has to do with this business model is always like that.


In any case, did anyone hear about what Tim Bradley has to say against Tank Davis?

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“I’m rooting for [Garcia], and I want him to win because I’m not a fan of Tank, I’ll be honest with you. I’m not a fan of his. I’m not a fan of what he does and how he operates outside the ring. I want Ryan Garcia to knock his ass out. Knock him out. Sit him on his pants, and give him a rude awakening. I can hope, but I don’t know if that’s going to happen,” Bradley told Fight Hub TV.

“It’s not personal. Everybody has their opinion. It’s not personal. I don’t like the guy because of that. I don’t like the guy because of what I hear and what I see. I think he’s a piece of sh!t. I honestly do. I think he’s a piece of sh!t. You put your hand on women like that. Bro, you’re a piece of sh!t in my book. You’re not a man.

https://www.boxingscene.com/tim-bradley-gervonta-davis-piece-sht-i-hope-ryan-garcia-knocks-him-out--171927

The animosity though, hehehe, Bradley is full of hatred, maybe it steam on the case against Davis on hitting a women.

He said nothing is personal, but it's maybe personal though. However, we cannot blame him, he has the freedom to choose and state his opinion, besides, Ryan Garcia is a champion, and a great boxer, so it's just nice to know that there is influential personality in boxing who is siding in him.

For me it seems to be personal though, the attack, although Davis has replied to this if I'm not mistaken and he just said that he [Bradley] is just jealous on what he has accomplished so far in his young career.

And for the record he was a fan of Davis before and even says that he is for Davis if this fight with Ryan is going to be made.

But he completely made a 360 degree turn and so be it, Bradley though is known for opening his mouth because is a boxing "analyst" after all, it's his job to create hype.

The last part of your statement is true, it's part of his job whether he meant something about that words or it might only for
the hypes of Garcia's upcoming fight.

He create a noise and it's now being discuss, whether it is a negative publicity there are still fans and readers who will give time
to read and analyze the authenticity of this issue.

Brining eyes to Garcia, only means of fans interest and it can be converted to a much better outcome, a ticket sales.

Ticket sales on this fight is guaranteed as they are champions and both are popular. We don't see big fight like this all the time, that's why fans are surely willing to spend money just to watch this fight whether in the venue or through PPV. They can continue throwing words against each other now as it will continue increase the value of this fight and that would help to sold out the tickets and PPV subscription.

Well, I don't deny it, people must be in great demand for this fight, Tank Davis is a boxer who has every advantage, I have seen that many are leaning towards him to bet, honestly it seems something spectacular to me because at the same time all These affirmations that he himself sees, García knows that many are counting, at least in betting it can be noticed, if a boxer sees this trend, how would he feel?

I think that by noticing that there is a great tendency in favor of a particular boxer, the other will look for a way to reverse this, but how? with much stronger training, preparation is the only way you can make a difference come fight time.

3 reasons why Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia needs to happen



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Boxing needs Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia to happen.

The entirety of the boxing world has their fingers crossed that a potential match-up between two of the more well-known younger practitioners, Gervonta “Tank” Davis (28-0, 26 KOs) and Ryan “King Ry” Garcia (23-0, 19 KOs), will take place.

Before his most recent contest against Hector Luis Garcia on Jan. 7, Davis was involved in a domestic dispute, which sent the boxing community into a panic. For a few days, it was thought that the fight with Ryan Garcia had gone up in flames. Fortunately, the details of the dispute surfaced, and it appears that it won’t impact a fight with Garcia or have much worse implications.

Then Garcia’s promoter Oscar De La Hoya, stated via Twitter that he would be giving a deadline for the contracts to be drawn up and signed for Davis-Garcia. And that he would move on if the deadline wasn’t met. De La Hoya went through his Instagram account to alleviate the dread boxing fans felt, letting everyone know that contracts were nearly finalized.

Source: https://fansided.com/2023/01/21/3-reasons-gervonta-davis-ryan-garcia/
5816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: January 23, 2023, 02:46:58 PM
Real Sociedad's performance this season has surprised everyone. They have won their last 5 matches. They won 12 out of 18 matches. And Real Sociedad is third in the points table, 3 points behind Real Madrid. Real Sociedad's Champions League qualification should not be a difficult task if they can continue with such performances and not lose the truck.
Real Sociedad have beaten Rayo Vallecano again in Vallecas by the same score. Real Sociedad once again came back very strong, dominated at will and defeated the rival without major problems in the first half, even after they were able to drop more goals. Rayo showed a small improvement in the second half, they were able to get out more into the rival field but they lacked a better hit on goal. This victory strengthens Real Sociedad even more in 3rd position, 7 ahead of 4th.

Yes, in fact, one of the teams that is surprising me is Real Sociedad, as it goes, quietly they are surprising in the League, and this is something that I like, because the League looks more dynamic, it is much stronger because that way For now, as it is at the moment, it is exciting, Real Madrid's path is very good, because Barcelona does not give them a chance, Barcelona took advantage of their last game to win, so the League is getting creepy, Furthermore, if a team like Real Sociedad is gradually getting into the table, it is not a bad thing, this indicates that the level of Spanish football is increasing.



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Arsenal continues to bolster their squad and more players are expected to join Mikel Arteta’s side before this transfer window closes.

According to reports, several players are on the Gunner’s wishlist, but one man has turned them down.

Cadena Ser reports that the Gunners have an interest in Martin Zubimendi of Real Sociedad, but the midfielder has rejected an approach from them as he hopes to keep playing for his present employers.

Arsenal is one of the most attractive clubs in the world to join, yet the 23-year-old reportedly has no interest in a move to London for now.

Source: https://www.justarsenal.com/report-real-sociedad-midfielder-rejects-a-move-to-arsenal/329420


5817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 23, 2023, 01:44:41 PM
The rain of goals occurred at Dortmund's home Signal Iduna Park stadium against Augsburg. In total there were 7 goals from the two teams that competed, which made the match very exciting and certainly returned goals to each other to win. But in this match Dortmund came out victorious with a score of 4-3 over Augsburg. Even though they won 3 points, with this result Dortmund are still in 6th place in the standings and need one more win to push up to the top 4 of the standings.

I really expected a good game from Dortmund, even though we all say that Dortmund is a team that only has great potential in preparing players for sale, here Dortmund is showing that they have enough quality to be at the Bundesliga level. . , something that I like, that is the spirit that I like to see from Dortmund and I cannot deny that the game was quite good, although there were many goals, I am very happy that Dortmund did not lose the points this time, this is doing to make the Bundesliga much more interesting, I know that many fans are enthusiastic about Dortmund and I know that they will support them until the end.

Sebastien Haller: The reception from Borussia Dortmund supporters was incredible



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Sebastien Haller was given a rousing reception from the Borussia Dortmund supporters as he made an emotional return to competitive football on Sunday.

Borussia Dortmund claimed a dramatic 4-3 win against FC Augsburg in their first Bundesliga game of 2023. But the most special moment of the game came in the 61st minute, when Sebastien Haller came on to make his long-awaited competitive debut for the Black and Yellows.

The Ivory Coast international was greeted with the loudest cheers of the afternoon as he came on to replace Youssoufa Moukoko. Just six months after being diagnosed with testicular cancer, Haller made his return to the pitch in what was a truly special moment for everyone at Borussia Dortmund.

Source: https://bvbbuzz.com/2023/01/23/sebastien-haller-reception-borussia-dortmund-incredible/
5818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: January 23, 2023, 01:06:15 PM
Anything can happen in football, but we can say that Arsenal has had a very successful performance so far. They have enough points difference with their rivals, they will also play 1 more match. If they win, the difference in points will increase even more. They beat Manchester United thanks to their last minute goal, I think it was a very important match on their way to becoming champions Smiley
Despite their recent strong play, I am aware that Manchester United is still a work in progress. They should continue to improve their concentration, especially during the last minutes of games. Additionally, the defenders continued to retreat, providing too much room for a cutback across the goal. When the ball is won, it is always moved into no man's territory. Almost shortly after that, the opposition get the ball back.
Arsenal deserved this win, they have continued to impress and it has worked out well. I agree with you that Manchester United are still in the process of transitioning from their bad performance, even in this match they didn't play badly, it's just that Arsenal can play better than them. Evidenced by the first goal they created, and also the goal that made the score 2-2. They only conceded with 1 goal which they couldn't catch back.
Well, I can't deny that this was a very spectacular game, and when it was seen that Man United was going to win, Arsenal scored a tremendous goal, to be honest, the goals that I liked the most were those of Arsenal, although I can't deny either One of the celebrations that I liked the most was that of Casemiro when he hugged some fans, this match was very colorful, it was seen that each of the teams needed the victory and each one showed that they are at a very high level of football Now, the PL lse is getting very good, and the team that should win the most from now on is City, they can't lose more.


A Controversy:

Roy Keane blasts four Manchester United players vs Arsenal as Luke Shaw admits to reality check



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Keane slams four players after defeat to Arsenal

Roy Keane was critical of four Manchester United players after the Reds lost to Arsenal at the Emirates Stadium on Sunday evening.

Erik ten Hag's side conceded in the 90th minute as they lost 3-2 to the Gunners, with Eddie Nketiah poking home from close range in the final few minutes of the game to earn the home side an important three points. The result means that United remain in fourth position in the Premier League table.

Source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-united-news-keane-shaw-26044704
5819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: January 23, 2023, 03:10:50 AM
I agree with you. It seems to me that bookmakers simply compare clubs by the value of their players and make their calculations and predictions based on that.
Football is much more complex and unpredictable than that, because if the favorites always won, then Brazil would be the world champion in the last few world cups, and Manchester City and/or PSG would win the Champions League all the time.
We know that Manchester City and PSG still, after investing a lot of time and money, failed to achieve their main goal, to become champions of Europe, and it is obvious that in football money can't buy everything.
I would say that more important than that is the unity in the team, and the physical and mental strength of the players.
That's why I'm again favoring Real this season to win the Champions League.
I agree with you, with the composition of the players currently owned by PSG and also Man City, they should have won the UCL a few years ago, but in fact all of that is not a determinant because there are various factors that make a team successful in becoming a UCL champion

teams like Madrid and Bayern always surprise and these two teams often win the UCL, so without getting rid of Madrid and Bayern it is impossible for another team to win the UCL

Well I also believe that money is not capable of buying everything, and that was evidenced last season of the UCL, also in the seventh season a false step and one of the biggest could come out, even the PSG ism that they have had some bad run, even though they will have 1 week off, PSG must react, at least against a friendly game with AL- Nassr was a game where the players all showed off and could be rested, they did not feel pressure and it is seen that all the stars They respected each other, the idea was to show that the team of both PSG and Al Nassr have a high level, especially Al Nassr, which is at the level of the European teams.

Lionel Messi left out of PSG squad for cup tie



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PSG have this afternoon unveiled the squad picked for the trip up north to Lens to face sixth-tier outfit Pays de Cassel for their cup tie on Monday night, with Lionel Messi a notably absence.

Christophe Galtier has decided to rest the Argentine, who was present at yesterday’s training session, with Kylian Mbappé and Neymar named in the team.

Source: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2023/lionel-messi-left-out-of-psg-squad-for-cup-tie/
5820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 23, 2023, 02:20:51 AM
Jakub Kiwior is officially joined Arsenal from Spezia, Arsenal spend for 25 Million Euros to get him. Spezia is really a bad club in Serie A since they're currently at 15th position, since his position is Central Back, I don't really know his potential and how good he's. I just only know he's good in pass and long pass.
I think Arsenal is taking a risky move in singing him, Kiwior should be really happy since he's now on a club which have 1st position and high likely become a champion in this season.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1616903560502951936
I personally also don't know why Arteta is interested in Jakub Kiwior, so far I haven't watched his game on the field, but maybe Arteta has a plan and sees potential for the future, because Arsenal have so far been pretty good at seeing and utilizing the talent in every player and Arsenal are indeed must have strengthened his back line for future regeneration after maximizing his midfield and front.

Jakub Kiwior is a great defensive midfielder. And he can provide great assistance to the team in the defensive midfield area. This is obviously going to be a great signing for arsenal in my opinion. And I think the money that they have spent is also all right. If it was 2 years ago, I would have said that this is a little too much for this player. But right now the way everyone is spending for players, I think this is okay price for this player. And obviously, if this player proves to be great for Arsenal, this price is not going to hurt them at all.


Well, he is a central defender, Jakub Kiwior gives a lot of solidity when it comes to putting on a good striker and dribbling for the opposing team, he is a solid central defender, although sometimes he has his mistakes, but personally if he Arsenal acquires him, they will put themselves in a very good position because they are not so bad up front, of course we must hope that Gabriel Jesus fully recovers and with a defensive line led by Jakub Kiwior it would be the best for him, however this is not to be invincible, if everyone like the midfielders, forwards, recovering players and full-backs help so that it can be a complete attacking team, and with Jakub Kiwior they could withstand a counterattack very well.

Here relevant information:

Agent confirms client will sign for Arsenal on Monday or Tuesday



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Jakub Kiwior is closing in on the official announcement of his transfer to Arsenal from Spezia Calcio, but his agent reports that the deal won’t be done until early next week – with a work permit still pending.

“Jakub will sign on Monday or Tuesday for Arsenal,” the agent told Meczyki.pl, adding: “He will be in VIP Box for the game vs United.”

Even though news only broke in the last few days, this deal has clearly been in the works for at least a few weeks, with the agent explaining that Mikel Arteta had already spoken to Kiwior before the turn of the year.

Source: https://dailycannon.com/2023/01/kiwior-transfer-arsenal/
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