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Tank Davis - 35 (74.5%)
Ryan Garcia - 12 (25.5%)
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January 11, 2023, 05:04:10 PM
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Gervonta Davis psychologically better equipped to defeat Ryan Garcia says Eddie Hearn

Indeed, Tank Davis is pretty much psychologically better than Ryan Garcia. I have no doubt about that!

Golden Boy prepared Garcia well before he gives his Go signal to fight a champion and this time, they really needed a closer to showcase Ryan Garcia's talent and Davis will be the key for that because it will literally hype Garcia's name if he can defeat Tank Davis on the process. But that won't come easy because Davis got some real IQ in his temple especially inside the ring. Pretty sure this will be a nice fight to see, a battle of knockout specialist.

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January 12, 2023, 12:20:18 PM
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Gervonta Davis psychologically better equipped to defeat Ryan Garcia says Eddie Hearn

Indeed, Tank Davis is pretty much psychologically better than Ryan Garcia. I have no doubt about that!

Golden Boy prepared Garcia well before he gives his Go signal to fight a champion and this time, they really needed a closer to showcase Ryan Garcia's talent and Davis will be the key for that because it will literally hype Garcia's name if he can defeat Tank Davis on the process. But that won't come easy because Davis got some real IQ in his temple especially inside the ring. Pretty sure this will be a nice fight to see, a battle of knockout specialist.

That's one advantage of Tank that I think is very important in this fight. There could be some psychological battle here, not just for boxers but from within inside. They might question themselves if they can go ahead and beat the other guy. And we all know that Ryan has some mental issues before and it causes a riff between him and Canelo and Reynoso and now he no longer trains with Eddie and move to Goosen. So still though, even if Ryan has made a successful comeback, who knows what he is going thru although he is really the one pushing for this one.

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January 12, 2023, 05:11:22 PM
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Gervonta Davis psychologically better equipped to defeat Ryan Garcia says Eddie Hearn

Indeed, Tank Davis is pretty much psychologically better than Ryan Garcia. I have no doubt about that!

Golden Boy prepared Garcia well before he gives his Go signal to fight a champion and this time, they really needed a closer to showcase Ryan Garcia's talent and Davis will be the key for that because it will literally hype Garcia's name if he can defeat Tank Davis on the process. But that won't come easy because Davis got some real IQ in his temple especially inside the ring. Pretty sure this will be a nice fight to see, a battle of knockout specialist.
that's why this fight is very interesting to watch for me it because of the title once Garcia will win in this match there's a big chance of let say this is the key to be more famous and stronger in his career in boxing but this is gonna be a close fight cause we all know how tank Davis fight, he has a good IQ and strategy to control and have Momentum that he must to win the match. So this gonna be a good fight .

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January 13, 2023, 02:48:01 AM
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There is someone who I have always said, boxing, despite the fact that it has a lot to do with physicality, can be won but obtaining a lot of intelligence, and I have known that for a long time, and here in the forum they have let me know, nothing else I can do Name a fairly intelligent boxer like Mayweather, the day he fought Pacquiao, I didn't like that fight because I knew he was running all over the ring and Pacquiao was just looking for him, 'Mayweather only fought in a very technical way and That made him win, even though for me it was the worst fight in the world, years later I came to understand that Mayeweather knew that his best option was not a hand-to-hand confrontation, because he might have lost, but on a technical level he had the advantage .

Gervonta Davis psychologically better equipped to defeat Ryan Garcia says Eddie Hearn

Indeed, Tank Davis is pretty much psychologically better than Ryan Garcia. I have no doubt about that!

Golden Boy prepared Garcia well before he gives his Go signal to fight a champion and this time, they really needed a closer to showcase Ryan Garcia's talent and Davis will be the key for that because it will literally hype Garcia's name if he can defeat Tank Davis on the process. But that won't come easy because Davis got some real IQ in his temple especially inside the ring. Pretty sure this will be a nice fight to see, a battle of knockout specialist.
that's why this fight is very interesting to watch for me it because of the title once Garcia will win in this match there's a big chance of let say this is the key to be more famous and stronger in his career in boxing but this is gonna be a close fight cause we all know how tank Davis fight, he has a good IQ and strategy to control and have Momentum that he must to win the match. So this gonna be a good fight .

I have not the slightest doubt that now this will be a fight that promises, and it is something that fascinates me, but we also have to take into account that now all bets can be focused only in favor of Davis, not only on the photos, which they say that he has better alignment and can do better things, I think many are underestimating the power that García has, right now we can base it on the fact that the fight could be very good and due to all the demand that this fight can have, it makes it more interesting.

Ryan Garcia calls out Gervonta Davis’ ‘tricks,’ but warns ‘they don’t know who they’re messing with’



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ccording to Ryan Garcia, a mega-fight with Gervonta Davis is just a matter of a few minor details. The major one – their long-awaited showdown – is handled.

“At this point, from my knowledge, it is,” Garcia said on The MMA Hour of a reported April 15 date, which he believes could take place at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. “In the contract, everything seems set.

“I think they’re just working on the undercard, and other than that, we’ve both agreed to the fight. I’m ready. I’ve been dying for this fight, and I’ll give it my all to make it happen.”

Per the usual in high-profile fights, the undefeated pugilists have accused each other of trying to avoid a meeting. One manifestation of that for Garcia is Davis’ Jan. 7 bout against Hector Garcia.

Garcia said he wanted to fight Davis this past October after win three months earlier against Javier Fortuna. He said there were discussions of a January showdown. But then, he said, Davis proposed a new weight limit.

Source: https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/1/12/23552666/ryan-garcia-calls-out-gervonta-davis-tricks-but-warns-they-dont-know-who-theyre-messing-with

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They are both throwing accusations at each other, and I'm sure this will continue until they finalized the contract and the deal, both are trash talkers and they are going to hate each other until they face in the ring, we all hope that this will not become another Crawford - Spence scenario where they agree to fight but for some circumstances, the fight won't push through, we are tired of this kind of scenario boxers should go for legacy not for money, not because they are going to lose the zero in their ring record.

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January 13, 2023, 07:05:21 AM
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They are both throwing accusations at each other, and I'm sure this will continue until they finalized the contract and the deal, both are trash talkers and they are going to hate each other until they face in the ring, we all hope that this will not become another Crawford - Spence scenario where they agree to fight but for some circumstances, the fight won't push through, we are tired of this kind of scenario boxers should go for legacy not for money, not because they are going to lose the zero in their ring record.

They hate each other prior to the fight and it has that been for years. And now that they fight is inching closer, I doubt that this two will simply stop. On the contrary it will be very vicious verbal jabs between the two.

We really don't know who is going to win with this trash talking, but for sure we would like to hear more of that because that is part of selling this fight to casul and hard core fans.

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January 13, 2023, 08:10:36 AM
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They are both throwing accusations at each other, and I'm sure this will continue until they finalized the contract and the deal, both are trash talkers and they are going to hate each other until they face in the ring, we all hope that this will not become another Crawford - Spence scenario where they agree to fight but for some circumstances, the fight won't push through, we are tired of this kind of scenario boxers should go for legacy not for money, not because they are going to lose the zero in their ring record.

They hate each other prior to the fight and it has that been for years. And now that they fight is inching closer, I doubt that this two will simply stop. On the contrary it will be very vicious verbal jabs between the two.

We really don't know who is going to win with this trash talking, but for sure we would like to hear more of that because that is part of selling this fight to casul and hard core fans.

I really like how Ryan Garcia is talking because it will improve his value and people might think he could really beat Davis. I really don't know who will win, both have a strong chin, well for Garcia he went down once but we saw how he stand up and beat his opponent that fight. I'm really excited for this upcoming fight, we should see a very entertaining one because now they are already throwing verbal jabs.

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April 15th, they move the fight closer which is good. Ryan says Tank is prolonging his inactivity while he wanted to fight him without tuneup.  Great to see them finalize the date because we're all sick of them avoiding each other. Whoever falls anyway fans will be cheering again. They are still young and who knows this will go further than a rematch because of fans' demand.


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April 15th, they move the fight closer which is good. Ryan says Tank is prolonging his inactivity while he wanted to fight him without tuneup.  Great to see them finalize the date because we're all sick of them avoiding each other. Whoever falls anyway fans will be cheering again. They are still young and who knows this will go further than a rematch because of fans' demand.

They will not avoid each other, both are very much willing to win and believe they will easily beat their opponent. That's what I like, they are eager to make this fight happen and moving the date closer is just a great statement on how interested they are. Fans are definitely waiting this fight, they will be disappointed if this will be cancelled.

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April 15th, they move the fight closer which is good. Ryan says Tank is prolonging his inactivity while he wanted to fight him without tuneup.  Great to see them finalize the date because we're all sick of them avoiding each other. Whoever falls anyway fans will be cheering again. They are still young and who knows this will go further than a rematch because of fans' demand.

Let's see what the result of the fight is, but it is final for April 15th, and Ryan is a really great trash talker, and Tank is not prolonging that fight; it is just because he fought recently in January and needs rest and then training. This would be in the headlines for sure, as this fight is big! A rematch would be possible if it was a close fight and both parties agreed to it. 
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April 15th, they move the fight closer which is good. Ryan says Tank is prolonging his inactivity while he wanted to fight him without tuneup.  Great to see them finalize the date because we're all sick of them avoiding each other. Whoever falls anyway fans will be cheering again. They are still young and who knows this will go further than a rematch because of fans' demand.

I think that's fair enough, Ryan didn't want to have a tune up so he might think he will be at a disadvantage because of his inactivity. But I doubt that because for sure he could be back in the gym after the holidays.

In case of Tank, then he will have his rest already by this time and could be also in the gym after finalizing the fight date with Ryan. So I guess that date is good for both parties.
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They are both throwing accusations at each other, and I'm sure this will continue until they finalized the contract and the deal, both are trash talkers and they are going to hate each other until they face in the ring, we all hope that this will not become another Crawford - Spence scenario where they agree to fight but for some circumstances, the fight won't push through, we are tired of this kind of scenario boxers should go for legacy not for money, not because they are going to lose the zero in their ring record.

They hate each other prior to the fight and it has that been for years. And now that they fight is inching closer, I doubt that this two will simply stop. On the contrary it will be very vicious verbal jabs between the two.

We really don't know who is going to win with this trash talking, but for sure we would like to hear more of that because that is part of selling this fight to casul and hard core fans.

I really like how Ryan Garcia is talking because it will improve his value and people might think he could really beat Davis. I really don't know who will win, both have a strong chin, well for Garcia he went down once but we saw how he stand up and beat his opponent that fight. I'm really excited for this upcoming fight, we should see a very entertaining one because now they are already throwing verbal jabs.

Love hate or hate him, Ryan has this kind of personality an aura, he might be really similar to Oscar back in the days but Ryan is more brandish perhaps because he was born under the social media influence.

And just like what you said, maybe when he open his mouth like this, predicting that he will knockout Davis in 2 rounds, who knows, maybe we will believed that and bet on him specially if he is the underdog.

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There is someone who I have always said, boxing, despite the fact that it has a lot to do with physicality, can be won but obtaining a lot of intelligence, and I have known that for a long time, and here in the forum they have let me know, nothing else I can do Name a fairly intelligent boxer like Mayweather, the day he fought Pacquiao, I didn't like that fight because I knew he was running all over the ring and Pacquiao was just looking for him, 'Mayweather only fought in a very technical way and That made him win, even though for me it was the worst fight in the world, years later I came to understand that Mayeweather knew that his best option was not a hand-to-hand confrontation, because he might have lost, but on a technical level he had the advantage .

Aside from Mayweather's advantage when it comes to technicalities, he also got a good defense that enables him to create a counter punch every time that he's engaged. The fact that he mastered the Philly Shell makes him already an intelligent boxer, and I think that's what makes Devin Haney to practice under Mayweather even if he's not under his promotional banner.

And I agree, that fight was even dubbed as a fight of the century but what we saw was not really enticing and that the fight labeled like that was somehow inappropriate. People wanted an all-out fight and if that happened, Pacquiao will surely win but Mayweather was clever enough to despite the pressure around him.

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There is someone who I have always said, boxing, despite the fact that it has a lot to do with physicality, can be won but obtaining a lot of intelligence, and I have known that for a long time, and here in the forum they have let me know, nothing else I can do Name a fairly intelligent boxer like Mayweather, the day he fought Pacquiao, I didn't like that fight because I knew he was running all over the ring and Pacquiao was just looking for him, 'Mayweather only fought in a very technical way and That made him win, even though for me it was the worst fight in the world, years later I came to understand that Mayeweather knew that his best option was not a hand-to-hand confrontation, because he might have lost, but on a technical level he had the advantage .

Aside from Mayweather's advantage when it comes to technicalities, he also got a good defense that enables him to create a counter punch every time that he's engaged. The fact that he mastered the Philly Shell makes him already an intelligent boxer, and I think that's what makes Devin Haney to practice under Mayweather even if he's not under his promotional banner.

And I agree, that fight was even dubbed as a fight of the century but what we saw was not really enticing and that the fight labeled like that was somehow inappropriate. People wanted an all-out fight and if that happened, Pacquiao will surely win but Mayweather was clever enough to despite the pressure around him.

Haney has that defensive skills as well, might not look very polished as like the Mayweather because you have to understand that his uncle Roger was one of the first to used this Philly Shell that was pass on Floyd by his uncle and his father trainer, so we could say that he perfect this defensive stance that others just wanted to copy from him but failed. So for sure Tank knows this from Floyd himself when he was under his promotional company and we can see some of it on his stance in his last couple of fights.
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Gervonta Davis psychologically better equipped to defeat Ryan Garcia says Eddie Hearn

Indeed, Tank Davis is pretty much psychologically better than Ryan Garcia. I have no doubt about that!

Golden Boy prepared Garcia well before he gives his Go signal to fight a champion and this time, they really needed a closer to showcase Ryan Garcia's talent and Davis will be the key for that because it will literally hype Garcia's name if he can defeat Tank Davis on the process. But that won't come easy because Davis got some real IQ in his temple especially inside the ring. Pretty sure this will be a nice fight to see, a battle of knockout specialist.

That's one advantage of Tank that I think is very important in this fight. There could be some psychological battle here, not just for boxers but from within inside. They might question themselves if they can go ahead and beat the other guy. And we all know that Ryan has some mental issues before and it causes a riff between him and Canelo and Reynoso and now he no longer trains with Eddie and move to Goosen. So still though, even if Ryan has made a successful comeback, who knows what he is going thru although he is really the one pushing for this one.

Tank isn't showing some weaknesses as of now both physical and mental while Garcia already showed both, and it will be a big challenge for Garcia finding those weakness to increase his chances once they will start dancing inside the ring. Given Garcia's mental issues in the past, I believe that it can be revived and get that feeling back to Garcia once someone finds the switch to toggle it and who knows, Tank might try to find it to tease Garcia even more.

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They are both throwing accusations at each other, and I'm sure this will continue until they finalized the contract and the deal, both are trash talkers and they are going to hate each other until they face in the ring, we all hope that this will not become another Crawford - Spence scenario where they agree to fight but for some circumstances, the fight won't push through, we are tired of this kind of scenario boxers should go for legacy not for money, not because they are going to lose the zero in their ring record.

They hate each other prior to the fight and it has that been for years. And now that they fight is inching closer, I doubt that this two will simply stop. On the contrary it will be very vicious verbal jabs between the two.

We really don't know who is going to win with this trash talking, but for sure we would like to hear more of that because that is part of selling this fight to casul and hard core fans.

Correct! more on hyping and bringing more interest so they can convert it into good ticket sales and more sponsorships,
we don't know how but fans are excited to see them inside the ring.

Tank just gives some glimpse of how winning might be after beating the other Garcia, and it will be a good basis for
Ryan on how to create a good counter.

Depends on who's will stand out while throwing heavy and solid combinations.
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Correct! more on hyping and bringing more interest so they can convert it into good ticket sales and more sponsorships,
we don't know how but fans are excited to see them inside the ring.
They are doing that is right, it's a way to sold more tickets and watch PPV streams, this is business after all, so what can you expect.
Look at Floyd, he talk trash, some said he is not an entertaining boxer, but he still made fortune in boxing.


Tank just gives some glimpse of how winning might be after beating the other Garcia, and it will be a good basis for
Ryan on how to create a good counter.

Depends on who's will stand out while throwing heavy and solid combinations.

Maybe Hector Garcia is not a power puncher, if that was Ryan Garcia hitting Davis open, I don't know, maybe we will see a knock down at least.
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Gervonta Davis psychologically better equipped to defeat Ryan Garcia says Eddie Hearn

Indeed, Tank Davis is pretty much psychologically better than Ryan Garcia. I have no doubt about that!

Golden Boy prepared Garcia well before he gives his Go signal to fight a champion and this time, they really needed a closer to showcase Ryan Garcia's talent and Davis will be the key for that because it will literally hype Garcia's name if he can defeat Tank Davis on the process. But that won't come easy because Davis got some real IQ in his temple especially inside the ring. Pretty sure this will be a nice fight to see, a battle of knockout specialist.

That's one advantage of Tank that I think is very important in this fight. There could be some psychological battle here, not just for boxers but from within inside. They might question themselves if they can go ahead and beat the other guy. And we all know that Ryan has some mental issues before and it causes a riff between him and Canelo and Reynoso and now he no longer trains with Eddie and move to Goosen. So still though, even if Ryan has made a successful comeback, who knows what he is going thru although he is really the one pushing for this one.

Tank isn't showing some weaknesses as of now both physical and mental while Garcia already showed both, and it will be a big challenge for Garcia finding those weakness to increase his chances once they will start dancing inside the ring. Given Garcia's mental issues in the past, I believe that it can be revived and get that feeling back to Garcia once someone finds the switch to toggle it and who knows, Tank might try to find it to tease Garcia even more.

I think that will be Tank focus if they were going to trash talk, mentioning Garcia's health issues in the past that might trigger it again. But I also guess that Ryan and his camp knows this and they should be prepared for this kind of hurls of insults from Tank's camp.

I think every boxer though has weakness, I haven't seen anyone, it's that the great was able to cope up with their weaknesses and use it to their advantage as some point. Definitely if we look at the tale of the tape, Davis is already at a disadvantage in terms of height and reach, and Ryan are going to exploit that and he are used to fighting smaller boxer so he knows what to do if Tank tries to be the aggressive early.

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January 14, 2023, 07:08:49 PM
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There is someone who I have always said, boxing, despite the fact that it has a lot to do with physicality, can be won but obtaining a lot of intelligence, and I have known that for a long time, and here in the forum they have let me know, nothing else I can do Name a fairly intelligent boxer like Mayweather, the day he fought Pacquiao, I didn't like that fight because I knew he was running all over the ring and Pacquiao was just looking for him, 'Mayweather only fought in a very technical way and That made him win, even though for me it was the worst fight in the world, years later I came to understand that Mayeweather knew that his best option was not a hand-to-hand confrontation, because he might have lost, but on a technical level he had the advantage .

Aside from Mayweather's advantage when it comes to technicalities, he also got a good defense that enables him to create a counter punch every time that he's engaged. The fact that he mastered the Philly Shell makes him already an intelligent boxer, and I think that's what makes Devin Haney to practice under Mayweather even if he's not under his promotional banner.

And I agree, that fight was even dubbed as a fight of the century but what we saw was not really enticing and that the fight labeled like that was somehow inappropriate. People wanted an all-out fight and if that happened, Pacquiao will surely win but Mayweather was clever enough to despite the pressure around him.

Haney has that defensive skills as well, might not look very polished as like the Mayweather because you have to understand that his uncle Roger was one of the first to used this Philly Shell that was pass on Floyd by his uncle and his father trainer, so we could say that he perfect this defensive stance that others just wanted to copy from him but failed. So for sure Tank knows this from Floyd himself when he was under his promotional company and we can see some of it on his stance in his last couple of fights.

No doubt about that, Tank Davis surely learned a thing or two when he was still under Floyd Mayweather's promotional company that's why he saw some instances that Tank used the said stance in his previous fights. Also, Philly Shell is indeed a vicious defense and a kind of stance that allows the boxer to create such good counter that will shake their opponent or worse, knock them out because it's known for its unpredictability.

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January 15, 2023, 05:06:17 AM
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There is someone who I have always said, boxing, despite the fact that it has a lot to do with physicality, can be won but obtaining a lot of intelligence, and I have known that for a long time, and here in the forum they have let me know, nothing else I can do Name a fairly intelligent boxer like Mayweather, the day he fought Pacquiao, I didn't like that fight because I knew he was running all over the ring and Pacquiao was just looking for him, 'Mayweather only fought in a very technical way and That made him win, even though for me it was the worst fight in the world, years later I came to understand that Mayeweather knew that his best option was not a hand-to-hand confrontation, because he might have lost, but on a technical level he had the advantage .

Aside from Mayweather's advantage when it comes to technicalities, he also got a good defense that enables him to create a counter punch every time that he's engaged. The fact that he mastered the Philly Shell makes him already an intelligent boxer, and I think that's what makes Devin Haney to practice under Mayweather even if he's not under his promotional banner.

And I agree, that fight was even dubbed as a fight of the century but what we saw was not really enticing and that the fight labeled like that was somehow inappropriate. People wanted an all-out fight and if that happened, Pacquiao will surely win but Mayweather was clever enough to despite the pressure around him.

Haney has that defensive skills as well, might not look very polished as like the Mayweather because you have to understand that his uncle Roger was one of the first to used this Philly Shell that was pass on Floyd by his uncle and his father trainer, so we could say that he perfect this defensive stance that others just wanted to copy from him but failed. So for sure Tank knows this from Floyd himself when he was under his promotional company and we can see some of it on his stance in his last couple of fights.

No doubt about that, Tank Davis surely learned a thing or two when he was still under Floyd Mayweather's promotional company that's why he saw some instances that Tank used the said stance in his previous fights. Also, Philly Shell is indeed a vicious defense and a kind of stance that allows the boxer to create such good counter that will shake their opponent or worse, knock them out because it's known for its unpredictability.
When it comes to defense, I'll go with tank davis. His footwork is so good that he dodged a lot of punches from his last fight between him and hector garcia. His punch is so powerful that bigger opponents can't take the damage in their body. I don't know if Ryan has a body that can take the punch of Tank but he is an orthodox fighter and he has a crazy fast hooks and jabs. He dropped Javier Fortuna with his crazy jabs. The hook of King Ryan is also powerful so we should expect that we can see hooks vs hooks between him and Tank.
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