Theoretically this is correct but this doesnt mean that everyone will lose in the end. The proof of this would be there are alot of winner that won over 100+ BTC in PrimeDice which means that not everyone is losing .
If actually everyone is losing then there will be no one that gamble anymore because success story is what keep people to gamble apart from addiction of course. Everytime that there are someone that post their success story, another could be thinking that they are going to win too  


Correct and that means the best strategy would be quit while you are ahead. Some players also believe in superstition like bet for X period of time and then come back later or tomorrow to bet ( not sure if this actually affect your luck though . superstition anyway )


To begin with, everything is to do with luck but that doesnt mean you could just throw away 1 btc at 2x multiplier and hope for the best though

This 0 % house edge wont really sell unless the site has some user based already which is not for the case right now. Apart from that, the 0 % house edge means no commission for both Moneypot and developers thus this means not a good news for the investor as well. Not really saying that the player could be winning with the 0 % edge anyway

Another site is currently having 0 % house edge at the moment and it seems to be having a huge jump of the number of people rolling on the site but that doesnt mean all these players will stay once it is over


As per the usual dice game but without any house edge that means you will be able to select 00.00-49.99 as the low option and 50.00-99.99 as the high option at 2x multiplier that means exactly 50 % chance to win

The last roll was 32 minutes ago ( the time that I wrote this ) . The other apps in MoneyPot is working fine without any issue and it seems to be a slight issue on BetterBets end. For those wondering and PMed me regarding funds issue, you can be relax and dont be paranoid about that because everything is fine and your funds is secured. I have withdrawed and deposited back mine without any issue 
It could be something with the hosting providers because I got a connection timed out when trying to reconnect. Apart from that , nothing is wrong though I have contacted lobos regarding this and it should be back up in few minutes

EDIT : it is up again

Security in an on-chain games is pretty much no different than an off-chain game. depending on each site, some off-chain game could be actually much more secure than an on-chain. The significant different would be that an on-chain game hold no player's fund therefore if something happened then only the owner is in risk however in an off-chain game the risks are double on both the owner and players because the site keeps the players fund


There isnt anything much to speculate on because given the less information regarding this incident however once the site is up on Monday the owner could give a full details explanation about this incident ( or he will not )

You are being delusional, I am merely asking which one is totolino and that is all. I have no seat on this fight and Im not planning to. Cant we just back to a very civilized society where everyone has no ill thoughts? this is becoming more and more like the wild west. This is actually funny to see someone accuse me of something weird when Im just asking for a legit question


If there is no harm to the ongoing project then you could post the skype conversation so everyone can judge who is "guilty" on this . At this moment there will be no conclusion if both party remain silent without any proof but only pointing fingers to each another.
This thread is in scam accusations section which means that you need to actually provide proof to show that the other party is guilty. Simply provide your proof to show that he is the liar and ask for a refund or else contact his company to solve this thing


No problem , your are welcome

That is funny because the image shows some header from Jackpotracer but with different game (references below ) and Is that the same totolino in MoneyPot ?

References : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1110445.0 ; https://www.moneypot.com/users/totolino


The screencap clearly shows that he accused you of lying and he said that he got a proof that he had asked you to find another developer (references below ) . While on the other hand you insisted that he is the one lying about this thing and have the proof of him lying, that lead to two different story and there is no way to judge this if neither one of you provide a proof for your claim.

However providing the skype conversation as well as the other proof will means that you are leaking an idea about your ongoing project that could resulted in someone stealing it. Instead of providing this then I would suggest to make a contact through the company to solve this in a good manner rather than pointing guns to each another's head and  risking the project

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On a side note, which one of you is totolino? I knew totolino from MoneyPot though he is a fine man

Given the fact that there is an abundant of unsolved support request , it would actually tell people that Stunna has no time for it. If he would have alot of extra time to do so then probably there wont be any complaint regarding the support service. Plus that once Stunna shows up in chat, there will be alot of fuss "begging" him for some free coins thus only generate extra workload for the mods
On a side note that since MICRO has stated that PrimeDice is working on a casino, that could be another reason why Stunna hasnt been around for some time which could probably be catching up some schedule


AFAIK dooglus is still doing so but it is just less frequent when JD was on its prime

Trust issue is a matter of each individual perspective just because someone got alot of green trust and famous around here that doesnt mean that they are trusted to everyone. On a side note, even with huge positive rating doesnt mean you are shady or could not conduct any fraud / malicious intention in the future ( Im generally pointing my finger to Maidak if you dont know what I mean )
I could name few people in this forum that I deem trustworthy according to me however that doesnt mean that they are trustworthy to Stunna. Again, the email issue is pretty sensitive cases for some people, for me I would not want to be spammed or people to know my personal email .

Saving does not mean literally means saving in FIAT as there are alot of other form that can be use as a saving


It actually depends on how you are seeing this because holding in either BTC or gold is viewed as an investment for most people while on the other hand it could serve as saving as well.
If you actually "dont care" about the value of it and just want to save your FIAT in another form for security precautions then you are actually "saving" but if you actually care about the price and value of it and wanting to get more than what you put in on the first place then you are actually seeing this as an investment  ( this is what most people do )

There is tons of scenario regarding this however one of the most possible scenario when BTC hit $100 will be that there will be alot of people jumping the ship and proclaim that BTC is dead , which in most scenarios had happened before. This will then be followed as alot more sell pressure that keep on driving the price to ground floor .
Worst possible thing after that would be sell pressure will keep ongoing until the rage and fuss stopped and the best scenario would be that someone / the chinese ASIC manufacturer would put up a huge buy wall to prevent it from going deeper as that may only hurt their business ( part of my speculation which you can check from the previous pages ) , this is unlikely to happen but still possible to happen


The bolded part should be added with "yet" , things might change in the future as everything keeps going better and better

This is just another common mistakes on labelling if BTC is dead or not. Logically , BTC is a virtual code and cant actually be labelled as "dead" . Some people actually keep saying that it is dead whenever the price of it crashed , thats another mistakes as well because generally speaking eventhough if in the future BTC is dirt cheap, the value of it will never be "dead" . An example of the value would be its top notch security as you will be able to secure your money in form BTC

It seems you are not aware that BTC was created as a "currency" and that means it cant actually be "dead" because it stand on its own as a currency and not something that has a value of USD / euro . 1 BTC stays as 1 BTC even if the price is dirt cheap

Hiring a person to be a staff of the support service is never an issue for Stunna , in fact with his profit from PrimeDice he could hire tons of people but hiring a trustworthy person to do it is an issue for him. Hiring some random people will just resulted that some sensitive data from the players will be leaked , example of it would be email address and I believe no one wants their personal email to be spammed with
He valued his players privacy especially email address and therefore he would not let anyone check on the email except him and Edward ( and perhaps some other ), this is the reason that support service is very slow. Plus that MICRO claimed that over 80 % of mail that they got would be just a troll mail (references below )

Thats clearly a blackmail but there is nothing to be done here. He is clearly not violating any forum rules by giving away a free method ( if that actually works ) but if you deemed that he trolled you in your thread then you can get his post removed by reporting it to the mods ( references below ). An account that got his post constantly deleted at some point will resulted in a bann however that is a small chances that the account will be banned


EDIT : reported to mods, his "free" thread should belong in games and rounds

To be honest , I dont see anything misleading that apart from a negative trusted account claimed to know your method and will spread if for free unless you pay him which is clearly a blackmail.
You can use a self moderated thread to prevent this user from spamming your sales thread and apart from that I see no reason on why you would believe a words from a "possibly hacked account" because his trust rating has clearly indicates that the user cant be trusted


If it is actually a hacked account then the original owner could restore it by sending a signed message to theymos. Apart from that, if no one claim that account then there is no restriction of what that person could do with a hacked account, moreover admins dont IP bann someone just because he hacked an account ( IP is pretty easy to "change" anyway )

It truly depends on what your criteria for the "best" sites as there are several criteria which dependant to each user's choice, if you are seeking for a beautiful design and a fast sites then you are on the right place. However this could be not the criteria that someone is looking for. Nevertheless , BetterBets will always be better and you are welcome to put in some critics or suggestion for the better good

I PMed someone that was seeking for the "best" sites as well yesterday but he told me that he is looking from the angle of profit and I lead him here http://dicesites.com/ to compare all the BTC gambling dice sites in term of PROFIT/EV . You could actually see that BetterBets is listed as #6 in http://dicesites.com as well

This is pretty weird, why would you start with a play money if you can keep on using moneypot's API for it ? Besides you as a developer are risk-free and you can keep on getting profit as long as there are someone that wager on your site assuming that your idea is genuine and it attracts alot bettor.
As for the bolded part, the competition for the dice site around here is pretty hard with all these old site around here so unless you could create something that is "awesome" then it will be pretty hard to jump in the market


Thought it was you?


To be honest over 90 % of the gambling site around here is illegal to begin with and moreover even BTC is illegal in some country so that wont matter anyway.

Well he made a good point assuming you are seeing it from a "very long term" because in the end the profit of the site will be just as big as the house edge ( this is theoretically ) so it is correct to assume it is the same however it is not literally the same thing
I would assume that Dean has big stash of investment as well in PRC so using this method will allow him to get more assuming that some high roller wager alot and lost .

The same difference that about "fee" and "house edge" . Those are theoretically the same although it is a slight difference that collecting fee from the winning amount is only for a PvP game thus this means getting risk-free profit from the player instead of house edge for a player vs house game which isnt risk-free at all

Theoretically they are but Im just merely correcting nikona's statement as the other sites are not merely taking 0.1 % of the wagered amount but 10 % of the profit as commission. Most of the other sites dont take risk-free profit so There's abit difference in it and that makes it not the same therefore I corrected it . Anyway what Dean uses is still better than some site that even take cut of their faucet / promotions from the net profit


Theoretically the same but not the same mechanism , as per stated taking from the wagered amount is kinda like risk-free



equivalent to 25 % of the profit

It is still profitable for him . He takes 0.25 % of the wagered amount and not to mention he probably has some stash of his own BTC invested on the site as well.
If the investor is still profitable then so does he. The reason of this could be that he is either thinking of "getting more profit" ( he even want to bankroll the new swisssoft game by himself ) or either wanting to prove to a potential buyer that the site could surivive even without crowdfunded bankroll because he insisted on it


Expenses will always be there and it cant be avoided


other sites usually takes 10 % comission of the profit

Not true at all, I read this once on Bustabit's chatbox that he will be planning to put up investment feature in the future as the reasoning behind this would be that he rather wants to get little profit by risking a bit of his BTC rather than getting all of it by risking a whole lot BTC ( another person that read this could confirm this as well )


He got 100 BTC in Moneypot to help it serve the needs of the high roller but will take it out once Moneypot manage to get more investment from public


It wont be possible for now. I've had conversation with Ryan before regarding this and bustabit is a non atomic game and the current moneypot's API will only serve for the atomic game ( 1 click - get - result game ). However he intended to make an API for non atomic game as well but there is no statement yet regarding if he will bring in bustabit to moneypot once the API is ready