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5821  Local / إستفسارات و أسئلة المبتدئين / Re: كيف تشتري بتكوين في بلدك ؟ on: July 19, 2019, 09:45:14 PM
السماسرة الذين تتكلم عنهم هنا هم الباعة التقليديون ونسبتهم 5% سواء كنت تبيع أو تشتري

هدا يعني ان اجمالي الربح الذي يحققونه هوا في الواقع 10%

مثال:

يشتري منك 1000$ بي 950$ 
يبيع لك بي 1050$

المكسب الصافي 10% في الواقع اكتر بقليل نظرا لانه راس ماله 950$ يعني انه كسب 10.5% ! ان كان هدا هوا الحال يعني فهوا مبالغ فيه لدرجة كبيرة في نظري

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وعند إجراء المعاملة إما يحولون لبتكوين أو يحولون البتكوين لدولار ... يعني لا يخاطرون بأي شيء عملياً سوا بالطبع اذا انهارت التيثر

لا استغرب انهم يستعملون سعر اقل منصة عند الشراء واعلى سعر لاعلى منصة عند البيع , يوجد فرق يتعدى ال 2% و 3% حتي بين المنصات الكبيرة في بعض الاحيان ! اعتقد ان هدا مشروع ناجح بالنسبة للوسطاء
5822  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hope for the best, Expect the worst on: July 19, 2019, 08:19:22 PM
Orders from the buying side is still weak though, and I don't think the weak hands are already shaken--not yet.
The increase of 15% today was followed up by fairly strong volumes. It's impossible to expect more given how uncertain the market still is. People aren't going in full but keep some aside just in case.

An old school trick/rule that can help you identify a strong buying momentum vs a weak one is the higher highs and higher lows.  

The scenario below would be a good indication that this mini rally is here to stay and it will be hard to reverse it





The scenario below means this likely just a correction of the down trend and more is to come.




Realistically this weekly candle needs to close above the 5SMA which is at 10738$ for it to be considered bullish in the short term, as you can see in the chart below the 5 SMA (blue) is putting a lot of resistance which won't be easy to break, but if we do close above it, that's great news.

5823  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: بتكوين mixer اخفاء اثر البتكوين ومنع التتبع on: July 19, 2019, 05:40:41 PM
ان قلنا المنصة المنصات محتفظة بكل التاريخ ستحتفظ بعنوان ايداع البيتكوين و العنوان الجديد

نعم هدا صحيح ولكن نهاية الخيط ستكون عند استلامك للعملة الغير قابلة للتبع مثل المونيرو او زي كاش..اي شي تقوم به بعد استلامك لها يصبح في علم الغيب ...طبعا هدا نظريا فقط.. لقد قراءت في مكان ما انه يمكن بالفعل تتبع اثر عملات مثل المونيرو والزيكاش .. لا ادري مدى دقة وسهولة هدا الشي ولكن ساقوم بالبحت عن هدا الموضوع لنفتح نقاش بخصوص هدا الشي.
5824  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Remote Shutdown - Antminer S9 on: July 19, 2019, 03:48:45 PM
Thanks. Do you think it is safe to completely shut the miner off after they have been running for a while? I've read that it is good practice to shut down the mining process but keep the fans running for a little while so as to cool down the chips.

I am not an expert in electronics but i am pretty sure it is fine to completely shut your miner off at any given time ( unless it is about to submit a correct answer to a block when solo mining then that is terrible luck) Grin

@mikeywith, you might want to check your spell checker... A high power relay is better known as a contactor - not a contractor  Wink

I used my phone to type that , it is amazing how i made the same spelling error twice, despite the fact that even in my local language we refer to it as a contactor but my phone thinks it's wrong spelling.
5825  Local / إستفسارات و أسئلة المبتدئين / Re: كيف تشتري بتكوين في بلدك ؟ on: July 19, 2019, 01:50:24 PM
غريب أن الوسيط لا يأخذ عمولة , لم أرى في حياتي أي وسيط عربي لا يأخذ عمولة  Cheesy

لا اعتقد ان اي احد يقدم خدمات الوساطة بدون مقابل..سواء كان عربي او اجنبي.. هدا الشي منطقي لانه موضوع الوساطة ليس بالسهل ويتطلب نوع من المسؤولية..ومن الطبيعي ان يطلب الوسيط نسبة معينة.

المشكلة عند الاخوة العرب تكمن في عدم القناعة.. من شهر او اكتر اشتريت شي من احد الاشخاص هنا..واستعملت وسيط معروف من المنتدى وكانك عمولته 1$ فقط.. استحيت منه وقمت بزيادة نسبته..ولكنه كان راضي ب دولار واحد.

ولكن الشاهد انه لا يوجد وسيط عربي يرضا ب 1$ او 5$ وهدا مايسبب غلاء تكلفة الوساطة.
5826  Local / العملات البديلة (Altcoins) / Re: بونتي ✈️✈️ IXINIUM -- مدعومة بالمعادن الثمينة بقي on: July 19, 2019, 11:21:16 AM
ماذا يعني ان تكون العملة مدعومة بالمعادن الثمينة؟ ؟ ثم اين الاتبات ان فريق العملة يمتلك مايكفي من المعادن الثمينة لتغطية العدد الاجمالي المباع من  العملة سواء كانت التغطية بامتلاك المعدن حقيقيتا او شراء سندات تتبت ملكيتك لتلك المعادن.

من وجهة نظري اي عملة تدغي انه قيمتها معدعومة بالمعادن الثمينة هيا عملة نصب ولو تنجح في المستقبل..مما يعني حتى وان لم تشتريها..سيضيع جهدك في حملة الباونتي بدون اي فائدة.
5827  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Remote Shutdown - Antminer S9 on: July 18, 2019, 10:16:40 PM
As far as I know there is no way to competently shut the miner off except for physical shut down , the led lights will still work , the fans will still spin (low RPM) but still , and that does add to your electricity bill, and depending on how many miners you have, you could be paying a fortune for that.

The best remote solution for you would be using Wifi smart devices, and you have 2 options.

if you have  a lot of miners to shut down, then you can use a smart MCB to control all the miners you need to shutdown, here is an example from Amazon > https://www.amazon.com/CNZJSC-Circuit-Breaker-Energy-Monitoring/dp/B07Q2QJVPJ

Using such a breaker you need to take these two things into consideration.

1- pick the right AMP
2- your router needs to be on a different MCB or else, after you turn everything off , you will have to manually switch it back on.

if it's a single miner, or a few but you want to control each of them individually, you can use Wifi switch > https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Control-Household-Appliances-Compatible/dp/B07FZTKZD5

you can find those on Alixpress for a lot cheaper, i think 3-4$ each, for S9 running on 220v 10amps would be enough, you can also use this switch with a relay / contactor to control your existing MCB , do the math, if the contactor + wifi switch price is cheaper than the smart MCB then use this method.

I have personally used the second equipment ( different brand but same thing) , you control your stuff using an APP on android and IOS, and you can set a schedule for it to go off and on.
5828  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Merit System Evaluation - Can You Earn a 1000 Merit in a Year? on: July 18, 2019, 09:53:26 PM
they start spending and then they make friends and then the circulation enters a continuum.

While everyone has the exact same chances of making "friends" I have to disagree to it being directly related to gaining merit,  what you are referring to is politics, some members have many friends and supporters here, that might get you elected to be on DT but sure thing does not grant you a good portion of merit, I do not want to point out exact members, but many highly respected and well trusted members here who do have a lot of friends/fans have a very limited earned merit.

The opposite is also true, many people have a lot of merit  and barely any friends/supporters , while I don't completely discard the possibility of someone helping their friend by sending them merit for shitposts, but let's be realistic, even if you are best friends with people who sent most merit , how many will you actually get before you get caught  ? 10? 100?


Post quality is very important, if my dad start using the forum and I decide to "help him" with merit, he has to post something worthy of merit, I can't send him merit for posts like "great project, when Lambo" ?  Roll Eyes
5829  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: ما هو المكسر؟ on: July 18, 2019, 09:40:39 PM
موضوع جيد اخي , هل يمكن ان تضيف محتوى اكتر له ؟ مثل تفاصيل تقنية اكتر , مخاطر استعماله وغيرها ؟ بعد قيامك بذلك يمكنك المشاركة في المسابقة الخاصة بمواضيع المكسر عن طريق هدا الرابط https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163170.0 فقط قم بنسخ ولصق رابط موضوعك هنا لتدخل في التصويت.

بالتوفيق.
5830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hope for the best, Expect the worst on: July 18, 2019, 09:19:54 PM
I am not a big charts guy so if you can answer me mikeywith that would be awesome. If we actually hit back on sma20 at 7200 dollars, does that mean it will stop there or could it also keep going down?

IF we reach the 20SMA it's more  likely than not that we do NOT go below it, i'd would say 70% we bounce back 30% we drop below

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I do not understand charts at all so this may sound like an idiot question to you but from my understanding if the longest period where bitcoin went up without touching back to SMA20 seems 154 days from your post and that means could it be also under 154 days without touching it? That would mean that we would eventually reach 7200 dollars

Not really, you should understand how moving averages work, without having to go into explanation on the different between SMA that uses open price, high, low etc. let me explain the default setting which are usually the closing price of each week.


every weekend (Sunday) midnight whatever price is at that moment is recorded into a table, same things happens every week, the average of the last 20 weeks is taken by adding 20 numbers dived by 20.

which means, based on the last week's reading including the previous 19 weeks closing prices, the 20SMA is at 7200, but if this week closing price will change it, it could be 7400 or any other number depending on the closing price.

now if you understood the above, you should understand that for btc to correct at 7200$ it must happen before Sunday this week, which is very unlikely to be realistic, and since the current value 7200$ takes into account some closing prices of 4k or even 3k it means that even if price stays leveled at 9-10k the 20 SMA should only rise.

now the correction to 20SMA must happen sooner or later, the 7200$ is the worst scenario, provided btc sinks anywhere from today until Sunday, but assuming it doesn't correct to the 20SMA until say Sep then the lowest it can go would be 8500$, if it happens in OCT that could be 10k etc.


long story short : forget the number, watch the moving average itself, if you are looking for a buying opportunity that  20 SMA is a golden chance, but no matter what you do, do not wait for price to get to 7k or 8k , as I mentioned earlier, I am slowly buying my way up, every dip should be bought, and keep in mind the bigger the gap between current price and 20SMA the bigger the correction, even if btc was to head to 20k in a few weeks and the 20SMA still hangs around say 13k, price has to go back to test it, so learn to take profit if you want to trade, if you want to hodl for years then you should not waste your time reading any TAs because these are more like short term.

5831  Local / العملات البديلة (Altcoins) / Re: أول سيولة مدعومة من الذهب عملة ستابل on: July 17, 2019, 11:55:52 PM
لقد رايت مالا يقل عن عشرة عملات تتدعي ان ارصدتها مغطاة بقيمة حقيقة من الذهب , وبغض النظر عن كون معظم هده العملات هي عملات نصب ليس اكتر , لا يوجد شي اسمه " مدعوم م الذهب" في الواقع حتى ان ذهب للبنك في بلدك لتشتري سندات ذهب , كل ماستحصل عليه هي ورقة تتبت انك تمتلك قيمة معينة من الذهب, ولكن ان ذهب للبنك وقلت لهم اريد استبدال هده الورقة بكمية من الذهب المللموس فبكل تاكيد لن تحصل على شي.

في الواقع الذهب معدن ناذر و العملات الرقمية و سندات الذهب الموجودة في العالم تفوق الكمية الفعلية للذهب بعشرات الاضعاف مما يعني انها لا يمكن ان تكون حقيقية.
5832  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What is going here someone can explain to me pls guys on: July 17, 2019, 11:24:33 PM
I think what OP is trying to say is the following:

in places like reddit, if you try to promote BSV or USDT for example, the mods will not allow you to do that and will ask you to fuck-off.

OP is implying that bitcointalk staff should do the same thing, he wants the few mods we have here to monitor every single topic/post that promotes shitcoins.

OP i hope this is what you are trying to say !


and as answer to your question, and despite me being against most of those coins, on what bases did reddit staff label Tron or USDT as scam ? if Tron is scam then what is bitconnect? how are they similar ? just because you or anyone else for that matter thinks so, it does not mean other people shouldn't promote it, non of the coins you mentioned fall into the black category, they are grey and people are free to think whatever they want.

also due to the large number of users here, certain things like scams are impossible to moderate, we as community members try to educate newbies about the things we know, and their part is to do their own research and that's all about it.

what is great about this place is freedom of speech,I don't really use reddit but if it operates as you describe it, imagine what could happen if say someone like Craig Wright buys it oneday ? who would be able to say shit about BSV anymore?
5833  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hope for the best, Expect the worst on: July 17, 2019, 10:58:48 PM
So short term, are you saying that we will see levels sub-$7k?

That is not exactly what i am actually trying to say, but let me rephrase the OP in simple points


1- We will very likely test the 20 SMA on the weekly pretty soon ( doesn't matter where it is by then ) for more details about this exact point please read my previous post .


2-There is no reason to panic if we were to see sub 7k or 8k , it does not mean we were entering a bear market , if that happens, think of it as the PERFECT correction which will give us enough power to break 14k.


3-If price closes below the 20SMA it is a bad sign, the trend will officially be looked at as a down trend, and rally to 14k was merely a correction of a bigger and more brutal down trend  ( very low portability scenario, as the tittle says : expect the worst)

4-buying near the 20SMA when price is above it is a probably one of the best trades one can make in terms of risk:reward ratio.
5834  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hope for the best, Expect the worst on: July 17, 2019, 10:43:10 PM
Also keep in mind that a pull-back to the 20 sma must come pretty soon, more on this to come  .....

Took me some time to come up with the exact figures, but there we have it, as always - chart first






I had to zoom out this much, all the way to July 2010 ! you can't really see every single detail, but that does not matter, the purpose here is to focus on one simple thing which is:

How long can btc rally last without having to go back to the 20SMA on the weekly to "recharge" ?

you can see that it varies a lot, but overall during every bull market we had starting from 2010 , every time BTC said good buy to the 20SMA had to come back and touch it, there is a total of 10 times, the current one is the 11th

the longest one we had was back in late 2012 to early 2013 , a total of 154 days where BTC had enough momentum to last that long without having to go back and test the 20 SMA while average of those 10 moves is 120 days


The red part of the 20SMA was obviously drawn by me,I tried to maintain the same curvature beside taking into account that fact that we last couple weeks have been bearish which mean the angel of the trend has to get lower thus move slower to the upside at least the next couple weeks.


Now if we were to have an average move, then by end of this month, we should test the 20 SMA at around 7800$ , if we are going to repeat the longest run ever then we should rest on the 20 SMA sometime around 2nd Sep at at 8500$.


is it possible that we make a new record , say 200 days without having to take a break at the 20SMA station? it is indeed possible , but is it very likely that we are going to do so ? not very likely i'd say.

Remember that right now the 20 SMA is at 7200$ , took us almost 100 days of almost only green candles and a total of 277% increase in price to get to this mark, now assuming we would have the same thing again (nearly impossible) but let's just assume the 20 SMA will be hanging at 14500$ when btc does another 277% , BTC will be trading at about 50k while the 20SMA is at 14k , that is not possible, it's more likely than not that we should test the 20 SMA pretty soon if this trend is intending to be healthy.


also @ figmentofmyass mentioned that I seem to be " underestimating how fast the 20ma is rising" , in fact the faster the SMA moves the bigger the gap the bigger the correction, the 20 SMA has already moved to fast and this explains why we need 35-40% correction.

TL;DR : I view critical moving averages like the 20 SMA as a debt which BTC has to pay , the sooner the debt is paid the less painful it is.





5835  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Merit System Evaluation - Can You Earn a 1000 Merit in a Year? on: July 17, 2019, 09:29:01 PM
@nakamura12

You don't really need to translate anything, merit sources will do that, you just need to post the link to the post that you think deserves merit and put a simple explanation about it.

Example : URL  > a guide on how to secure your desktop wallet.

Merit sources or whoever is looking for quality posts will visit the url and use auto-translation, while the translation won't be 100% accurate it is usually good enough to distinguish quality posts from shitposts.

As for applying for a merit source, you have nothing to lose, also if there are more established members on your local board you should advice them to apply.
5836  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hope for the best, Expect the worst on: July 17, 2019, 08:47:30 PM
it's like magic! Tongue

It is magic, have you watched magicmike? That is what I do, i freeze the price so i can sell my btc for 10% more than the average joe  Grin.


As far as the part of me underestimating how fast the 20 sma moves you are right, but then it does not really matter given the fact that when someone plans to trade based on an MA ,exact price  shouldn't be set, one should monitor it once a week at weekly close.

The range I estimated was merely a shot in the dark based on how fast I think we moving.

Anyhow, this TA should serve as a positive one , as long as we don't close below the 20 sma it is always safer to bet long, i am personally not holding my breath waiting for sub 7k coz we might not get there, but at that range some high risk leverage positions will sure be a great idea.

Also keep in mind that a pull-back to the 20 sma must come pretty soon, more on this to come  .....
5837  Local / إستفسارات و أسئلة المبتدئين / Re: كيف تشتري بتكوين في بلدك ؟ on: July 17, 2019, 04:26:49 PM
المشكل الوحيد الذي أراه في هذا النوع من المعاملات هو الوقت الكبير الذي تأخذه. فالبنوك ليست بمتطورة لذلك الارسال أو التأكد من الدفع يمكن فقط اتمامه بالذهاب الى البنك.

يوجد مشكلتين اخرتين في موضوع الوسيط , الاولى من الناحية الامنية والتانية من الناحية الاقتصادية


المشكلة الامنية: في موضوع الوسيط هي انه من يفتقر الخبرة يمكن ان يتم النصب عليه بسهولة , اي شخص يمكن ان يقلد بروفايل احد المشرفين ويقوم بدور الوسيط وينصب على الطرفين ( البائع والمشتري ).

النقطة التي تم ذكرها ليست فقط من محظ الاحتمالات ولكن في الواقع تحدث كتير حتى هنا في المنتدى , وحدث هدا الامر شخصيا لصديقي  في قروب تيليقرام حيث ان احد النصابين يستعمل حساب على التليقرام بنفس اسم وصورة احد الوسطاء ( مع تغير حرف واحد اعتقد من i لي j ) وقام بالنصب على صديقي "البائع" والمشتري ايضا.

لتفادي مثل هده الحوادث يجب ان تقوم بالدخول على قائمة القروب , وتبحت على علامة الادمن , وتبداء المحادثة مع الادمن (الدي بدوره يفترض ان يكون الوسيط) من خلال تلك القائمة.

المشكلة الاقتصادية:ان العمولة التي تدفع للوسيط يمكن ان يستفيد بها المشتري والبائع , في حال مثلا كان المبلغ 10000$ وعمولة الوسيط 2% مثلا , يعني 200$ مما يعني ان الشخصين يخسرون قيمة 100$ لكل منهم يمكن ان يتم تجنب هدا في حالة تقابل الشخصان واتمو المعاملة وجه لوجه , ولكن طبعا هدا الخيار يحتوي على عدة مخاطر اخرى ويضل البلد المقيم بها الطرفين والظروف الامنية هي العامل الاساسي لاختيار طريقة البيع والشراء.
5838  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Merit System Evaluation - Can You Earn a 1000 Merit in a Year? on: July 17, 2019, 04:13:37 PM
I know a local board in this forum where the flow of merit is very low

Threads like the one that LoyceV started do help with such cases, many merit sources are willing to take the effort to use online translator to evaluate posts in other languages, now of cource you shouldn't be expecting the merit sources to be visiting your local board and finding posts to merit ( some may do so but it's highly unlikely) so it's your duty towards your local board to actually help them earn merit for posts that are worthy of merit.

you can also apply to be a merit source, I am pretty sure Theymos is giving the priority to local boards in terms of merit sources, so your chances or anybody else's to become a merit source in a local board are technically much better than the rest of the members who only speak English.
5839  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Merit System Evaluation - Can You Earn a 1000 Merit in a Year? on: July 17, 2019, 09:11:29 AM
Quote from: Bttzed03
Link to [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023605.msg45324744#msg45324744
piggy's bot[/url] isn't working in your post. I don't know if you  did that on purpose.

That was a mistake , i fixed the bot's url  , thanks for pointing that out.

this is a terrible thing to do in my opinion.

I agree to the purpose of merit, but let us be realistic, there is only so much merit given to merit sources, the ratio of  posts to merit is a dozen to little.

Based on the above, what do you think the outcome will be if a good number of Smerit are given to those who don't really participate in the merit system?

Depending on the section merit could be very scarce , in my local board we have a lot of quality of posts and only 2 merit sources, I as someone who is not a merit source I always have a small number of Smerit , on what bases would I merit someone who doesn't participate in the merit system when there are other members with the same post quality who participate in the merit system?

Obviously if we had more merit than posts that would be irrelevant , but when i have 2 merit and i find 5 good posts , sure thing "WHO" becomes relevant, am sure many others agree to this but probably just refraining from admitting it publicly.    
5840  Economy / Speculation / Hope for the best, Expect the worst on: July 17, 2019, 01:37:33 AM
So BTC is down 30% from the last high, how far can we go ?


On the weekly chart below, i use only the 5 SMA (blue) and 20 SMA ( Orange )

 



Using the BLX chart, you can see that from 2010 all the way to 2018, every time we had a weekly close below the 5 SMA we simply drop all the way to the 20 SMA.

in the above theory there is good news and bad news.


which one do you want to read first?

I personally like the bad news first

The bad news :

 The 20 SMA is hanging around 7200$ but by the time we get there, it should be at 7500-8000 , so there is a good chance we would see number 7 again.

The good news:

The 20 SMA on the weekly is very very strong, based on previous price behavior near the 20 SMA on the weekly, more than 90% of the time this SMA was strong enough to keep price above it during bull market and below it during bear market, so it's safe to assume that we are officially in a bull market and this merely a major correction.


My plan is to slowly buy btc from current price all the to sub 7k , and start selling at around 13600$ , even though I expect the next leg up to hit `16k , but that won't be this month, highly unlikely next month either as I do expect a few weeks of consolidation near the 20 SMA.


***The importance of the 20SMA on the weekly came to my attention from a video I watched on Youtube a long time ago, and I have been watching this SMA for a long time, i would like to give credit to whoever made the video whom I sadly can't remember.
 



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