While everyone has the exact same chances of making "friends" I have to disagree to it being directly related to gaining merit,  what you are referring to is politics, some members have many friends and supporters here, that might get you elected to be on DT but sure thing does not grant you a good portion of merit, I do not want to point out exact members, but many highly respected and well trusted members here who do have a lot of friends/fans have a very limited earned merit.

The opposite is also true, many people have a lot of merit  and barely any friends/supporters , while I don't completely discard the possibility of someone helping their friend by sending them merit for shitposts, but let's be realistic, even if you are best friends with people who sent most merit , how many will you actually get before you get caught  ? 10? 100?


Post quality is very important, if my dad start using the forum and I decide to "help him" with merit, he has to post something worthy of merit, I can't send him merit for posts like "great project, when Lambo" ? 

موضوع جيد اخي , هل يمكن ان تضيف محتوى اكتر له ؟ مثل تفاصيل تقنية اكتر , مخاطر استعماله وغيرها ؟ بعد قيامك بذلك يمكنك المشاركة في المسابقة الخاصة بمواضيع المكسر عن طريق هدا الرابط https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163170.0 فقط قم بنسخ ولصق رابط موضوعك هنا لتدخل في التصويت.

بالتوفيق.

IF we reach the 20SMA it's more  likely than not that we do NOT go below it, i'd would say 70% we bounce back 30% we drop below


Not really, you should understand how moving averages work, without having to go into explanation on the different between SMA that uses open price, high, low etc. let me explain the default setting which are usually the closing price of each week.


every weekend (Sunday) midnight whatever price is at that moment is recorded into a table, same things happens every week, the average of the last 20 weeks is taken by adding 20 numbers dived by 20.

which means, based on the last week's reading including the previous 19 weeks closing prices, the 20SMA is at 7200, but if this week closing price will change it, it could be 7400 or any other number depending on the closing price.

now if you understood the above, you should understand that for btc to correct at 7200$ it must happen before Sunday this week, which is very unlikely to be realistic, and since the current value 7200$ takes into account some closing prices of 4k or even 3k it means that even if price stays leveled at 9-10k the 20 SMA should only rise.

now the correction to 20SMA must happen sooner or later, the 7200$ is the worst scenario, provided btc sinks anywhere from today until Sunday, but assuming it doesn't correct to the 20SMA until say Sep then the lowest it can go would be 8500$, if it happens in OCT that could be 10k etc.


long story short : forget the number, watch the moving average itself, if you are looking for a buying opportunity that  20 SMA is a golden chance, but no matter what you do, do not wait for price to get to 7k or 8k , as I mentioned earlier, I am slowly buying my way up, every dip should be bought, and keep in mind the bigger the gap between current price and 20SMA the bigger the correction, even if btc was to head to 20k in a few weeks and the 20SMA still hangs around say 13k, price has to go back to test it, so learn to take profit if you want to trade, if you want to hodl for years then you should not waste your time reading any TAs because these are more like short term.

لقد رايت مالا يقل عن عشرة عملات تتدعي ان ارصدتها مغطاة بقيمة حقيقة من الذهب , وبغض النظر عن كون معظم هده العملات هي عملات نصب ليس اكتر , لا يوجد شي اسمه " مدعوم م الذهب" في الواقع حتى ان ذهب للبنك في بلدك لتشتري سندات ذهب , كل ماستحصل عليه هي ورقة تتبت انك تمتلك قيمة معينة من الذهب, ولكن ان ذهب للبنك وقلت لهم اريد استبدال هده الورقة بكمية من الذهب المللموس فبكل تاكيد لن تحصل على شي.

في الواقع الذهب معدن ناذر و العملات الرقمية و سندات الذهب الموجودة في العالم تفوق الكمية الفعلية للذهب بعشرات الاضعاف مما يعني انها لا يمكن ان تكون حقيقية.

I think what OP is trying to say is the following:

in places like reddit, if you try to promote BSV or USDT for example, the mods will not allow you to do that and will ask you to fuck-off.

OP is implying that bitcointalk staff should do the same thing, he wants the few mods we have here to monitor every single topic/post that promotes shitcoins.

OP i hope this is what you are trying to say !


and as answer to your question, and despite me being against most of those coins, on what bases did reddit staff label Tron or USDT as scam ? if Tron is scam then what is bitconnect? how are they similar ? just because you or anyone else for that matter thinks so, it does not mean other people shouldn't promote it, non of the coins you mentioned fall into the black category, they are grey and people are free to think whatever they want.

also due to the large number of users here, certain things like scams are impossible to moderate, we as community members try to educate newbies about the things we know, and their part is to do their own research and that's all about it.

what is great about this place is freedom of speech,I don't really use reddit but if it operates as you describe it, imagine what could happen if say someone like Craig Wright buys it oneday ? who would be able to say shit about BSV anymore?

That is not exactly what i am actually trying to say, but let me rephrase the OP in simple points


1- We will very likely test the 20 SMA on the weekly pretty soon ( doesn't matter where it is by then ) for more details about this exact point please read my previous post .


2-There is no reason to panic if we were to see sub 7k or 8k , it does not mean we were entering a bear market , if that happens, think of it as the PERFECT correction which will give us enough power to break 14k.


3-If price closes below the 20SMA it is a bad sign, the trend will officially be looked at as a down trend, and rally to 14k was merely a correction of a bigger and more brutal down trend  ( very low portability scenario, as the tittle says : expect the worst)

4-buying near the 20SMA when price is above it is a probably one of the best trades one can make in terms of risk:reward ratio.

Took me some time to come up with the exact figures, but there we have it, as always - chart first






I had to zoom out this much, all the way to July 2010 ! you can't really see every single detail, but that does not matter, the purpose here is to focus on one simple thing which is:

How long can btc rally last without having to go back to the 20SMA on the weekly to "recharge" ?

you can see that it varies a lot, but overall during every bull market we had starting from 2010 , every time BTC said good buy to the 20SMA had to come back and touch it, there is a total of 10 times, the current one is the 11th

the longest one we had was back in late 2012 to early 2013 , a total of 154 days where BTC had enough momentum to last that long without having to go back and test the 20 SMA while average of those 10 moves is 120 days


The red part of the 20SMA was obviously drawn by me,I tried to maintain the same curvature beside taking into account that fact that we last couple weeks have been bearish which mean the angel of the trend has to get lower thus move slower to the upside at least the next couple weeks.


Now if we were to have an average move, then by end of this month, we should test the 20 SMA at around 7800$ , if we are going to repeat the longest run ever then we should rest on the 20 SMA sometime around 2nd Sep at at 8500$.


is it possible that we make a new record , say 200 days without having to take a break at the 20SMA station? it is indeed possible , but is it very likely that we are going to do so ? not very likely i'd say.

Remember that right now the 20 SMA is at 7200$ , took us almost 100 days of almost only green candles and a total of 277% increase in price to get to this mark, now assuming we would have the same thing again (nearly impossible) but let's just assume the 20 SMA will be hanging at 14500$ when btc does another 277% , BTC will be trading at about 50k while the 20SMA is at 14k , that is not possible, it's more likely than not that we should test the 20 SMA pretty soon if this trend is intending to be healthy.


also @ figmentofmyass mentioned that I seem to be " underestimating how fast the 20ma is rising" , in fact the faster the SMA moves the bigger the gap the bigger the correction, the 20 SMA has already moved to fast and this explains why we need 35-40% correction.

TL;DR : I view critical moving averages like the 20 SMA as a debt which BTC has to pay , the sooner the debt is paid the less painful it is.

@nakamura12

You don't really need to translate anything, merit sources will do that, you just need to post the link to the post that you think deserves merit and put a simple explanation about it.

Example : URL  > a guide on how to secure your desktop wallet.

Merit sources or whoever is looking for quality posts will visit the url and use auto-translation, while the translation won't be 100% accurate it is usually good enough to distinguish quality posts from shitposts.

As for applying for a merit source, you have nothing to lose, also if there are more established members on your local board you should advice them to apply.

It is magic, have you watched magicmike? That is what I do, i freeze the price so i can sell my btc for 10% more than the average joe  .


As far as the part of me underestimating how fast the 20 sma moves you are right, but then it does not really matter given the fact that when someone plans to trade based on an MA ,exact price  shouldn't be set, one should monitor it once a week at weekly close.

The range I estimated was merely a shot in the dark based on how fast I think we moving.

Anyhow, this TA should serve as a positive one , as long as we don't close below the 20 sma it is always safer to bet long, i am personally not holding my breath waiting for sub 7k coz we might not get there, but at that range some high risk leverage positions will sure be a great idea.

Also keep in mind that a pull-back to the 20 sma must come pretty soon, more on this to come  .....

يوجد مشكلتين اخرتين في موضوع الوسيط , الاولى من الناحية الامنية والتانية من الناحية الاقتصادية


المشكلة الامنية: في موضوع الوسيط هي انه من يفتقر الخبرة يمكن ان يتم النصب عليه بسهولة , اي شخص يمكن ان يقلد بروفايل احد المشرفين ويقوم بدور الوسيط وينصب على الطرفين ( البائع والمشتري ).

النقطة التي تم ذكرها ليست فقط من محظ الاحتمالات ولكن في الواقع تحدث كتير حتى هنا في المنتدى , وحدث هدا الامر شخصيا لصديقي  في قروب تيليقرام حيث ان احد النصابين يستعمل حساب على التليقرام بنفس اسم وصورة احد الوسطاء ( مع تغير حرف واحد اعتقد من i لي j ) وقام بالنصب على صديقي "البائع" والمشتري ايضا.

لتفادي مثل هده الحوادث يجب ان تقوم بالدخول على قائمة القروب , وتبحت على علامة الادمن , وتبداء المحادثة مع الادمن (الدي بدوره يفترض ان يكون الوسيط) من خلال تلك القائمة.

المشكلة الاقتصادية:ان العمولة التي تدفع للوسيط يمكن ان يستفيد بها المشتري والبائع , في حال مثلا كان المبلغ 10000$ وعمولة الوسيط 2% مثلا , يعني 200$ مما يعني ان الشخصين يخسرون قيمة 100$ لكل منهم يمكن ان يتم تجنب هدا في حالة تقابل الشخصان واتمو المعاملة وجه لوجه , ولكن طبعا هدا الخيار يحتوي على عدة مخاطر اخرى ويضل البلد المقيم بها الطرفين والظروف الامنية هي العامل الاساسي لاختيار طريقة البيع والشراء.

Threads like the one that LoyceV started do help with such cases, many merit sources are willing to take the effort to use online translator to evaluate posts in other languages, now of cource you shouldn't be expecting the merit sources to be visiting your local board and finding posts to merit ( some may do so but it's highly unlikely) so it's your duty towards your local board to actually help them earn merit for posts that are worthy of merit.

you can also apply to be a merit source, I am pretty sure Theymos is giving the priority to local boards in terms of merit sources, so your chances or anybody else's to become a merit source in a local board are technically much better than the rest of the members who only speak English.

That was a mistake , i fixed the bot's url  , thanks for pointing that out.


I agree to the purpose of merit, but let us be realistic, there is only so much merit given to merit sources, the ratio of  posts to merit is a dozen to little.

Based on the above, what do you think the outcome will be if a good number of Smerit are given to those who don't really participate in the merit system?

Depending on the section merit could be very scarce , in my local board we have a lot of quality of posts and only 2 merit sources, I as someone who is not a merit source I always have a small number of Smerit , on what bases would I merit someone who doesn't participate in the merit system when there are other members with the same post quality who participate in the merit system?

Obviously if we had more merit than posts that would be irrelevant , but when i have 2 merit and i find 5 good posts , sure thing "WHO" becomes relevant, am sure many others agree to this but probably just refraining from admitting it publicly.    

So BTC is down 30% from the last high, how far can we go ?


On the weekly chart below, i use only the 5 SMA (blue) and 20 SMA ( Orange )

 



Using the BLX chart, you can see that from 2010 all the way to 2018, every time we had a weekly close below the 5 SMA we simply drop all the way to the 20 SMA.

in the above theory there is good news and bad news.


which one do you want to read first?

I personally like the bad news first

The bad news :

 The 20 SMA is hanging around 7200$ but by the time we get there, it should be at 7500-8000 , so there is a good chance we would see number 7 again.

The good news:

The 20 SMA on the weekly is very very strong, based on previous price behavior near the 20 SMA on the weekly, more than 90% of the time this SMA was strong enough to keep price above it during bull market and below it during bear market, so it's safe to assume that we are officially in a bull market and this merely a major correction.


My plan is to slowly buy btc from current price all the to sub 7k , and start selling at around 13600$ , even though I expect the next leg up to hit `16k , but that won't be this month, highly unlikely next month either as I do expect a few weeks of consolidation near the 20 SMA.


***The importance of the 20SMA on the weekly came to my attention from a video I watched on Youtube a long time ago, and I have been watching this SMA for a long time, i would like to give credit to whoever made the video whom I sadly can't remember.
 

 On 10-March-2019 I started this thread  Zero To Hero in under 4 months

Yesterday 16-July-2019 I earned another 500 merit with total of 1000 merit in less than 10 months of being active on the forum.


Other members have probably done this way faster than I did, This should clear any doubts you have about being able to gain enough merit to rank up, despite the noise, the complains and the number of people who can't even rank up to Member rank - you should know that it's pretty doable.



1- Always participate in constructive discussions:


-Pick the topics you are interested in,  most importantly the subjects you understand because you can't possibly add into a topic you don't understand.

-Don't throw a comment and then disappear, go on with the discussion, using piggy's bot will help you with mention notifications in order for you to have healthy discussions.

-Read the comments, don't simply comment on the original post because in most cases you might not be adding any value to the discussion.

by doing the above, you will most importantly get to learn new stuff, plus you will be "recognized" and that does help a lot because let's face it, unconscious mind does exist, when other members realize that you usually post quality posts , your name will somehow appear in bold and be easily recognized, for obvious reasons the exact opposite is true, post a dozen useless shit and you will most likely be ignored in the future even if you start to post quality posts - it will be way too hard for you to gain merit.


2- Answer questions/Solve problems:


The most constructive posts in my opinion are those that answer questions/solve problems, many people ask different types of questions on different boards, provide answers and you will more than likely earn a good amount of merit by doing so.

You don't always have to know the answer, you might have better "Googling"' skills than the person who asks the question, get them the answer ( don't forget the reference)


3- Spend your Smerit:

Some people "including myself" don't seem to be wanting to send merit to those who don't participate in the merit system by meriting other members, simply because we all have limited number of Smerit and most of us would like to seem them "circulate" rather than sit in your account doing nothing, you don't necessarily have to merit the members who merit you, i personally usually try to merit lower ranks to help them rank up.


4- Be friendly to others (Don't be an Asshole)


While this is not a social club and many members publicly state that they don't really care about WHO posts what, and that they will still merit members they don't like if they post something worthy of merit, that's great and all, but I am willing to bet my horse that many members don't really do that, I mean come to think about it, if someone who thinks that you are complete jerk has 10 sMerit, what are the chances of you getting any of them when there are other people he likes that have the same post quality ?

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Notice that , depending on what boards you are active in , your chances of earning merit can vary , merit sources are more active on some sections than others, but that's okay, don't force your self to post in places you don't like/understand because either ways , you will not earn merit and you will damage your post quality.

السعر الان يلامس الترند الصاعد ويوجد نوع من الدعم في هده المنطقة, في حالة الاغلاق تحته يصبح مستوى 7500$ هو الاقرب كنهاية لهدا التصحيح حيت يوجد  Simple Moving Average 50 من وجهة نظري ان هدا التصحيح هوا جيد لصحة الترند على المدى المتوسط والبعيد ايضا , اعتقد ان النقطة القادمة للصعود ستكون 20,000$ بعون الله.

ارجو ان ارا تحليلك بخصوص البتكوين.

مرحبا بك في المنتدى,

اولا وقبل اي شي اخر يجب عليك ان تقوم بقراءة قاونين المنتدى لتجنب نفسك الحظر منه , هنا الموضوع مترجم بالعربي من قبل الاخ Hugeblack  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2345906.0

تانيا يجب ان توضح ماهي غايتك من التواجد في المنتدى , هل انت مهتم بالتعدين ؟ حملات التوقيع ؟ الباونتي ؟ام انك تريد تعلم اساسيات مثل ماهي البتكوين , انواع المحافظ , كيف ترسل بتكوين الخ الخ؟

I am not interested in buying gift cards or gift of prime , I want you to buy the me some stuff on Amazon ( PC parts ) and I pay you in BTC , you will be given an address in the U.S to ship to.

Obviously I am looking for below market prices, and since many of you here offer gift cards for some good discounts, and if those are legal then you should load them in your account and use them to buy me the goods without an issue and without me having to use them.


For obvious reasons,  unless I traded with you before or you are a very trusted member then Escrow is a must.

send me PM , or simply post your offer here ( how much of a discount you are willing to give?).

لقد تطرقت انا والاخ Sygambler والاخ خالد لموضوع شراء البتكوين وكما ذكر الاخ فاننا بدائنا في الخروج عن سياق ذلك الموضوع
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5162764.msg51830656#msg51830656

فقررت ان ابدا هدا الموضوع للناقش ماهو الوضع في بلدك من ناحية البيع والشراء.. لست بحاجة لذكر اسم بلدك فقد قم بمشاركة الواقع في بلدك.

في بلدي البيع والشراء يتم عادة باستلام كاش في اليد وبدون وسيط..تتحصل على من يشتري منك او يبيعك داخل قروبوات في الفيسيوك والواتس اب.

متوسط البيع للارقام المتوسطة مابين 1000$ و 5000$ يكون بنسبة 5%..للارقام الكبيرة يتراوح مابين 3% الى 5%..والارقام الاقل من 1000$ في العادة تكون من 10% الى 15%

بعض الناس في حال كان مستعجل جدا يبيعها بنفس القيمة ولكن هدا من النادر جدا.

المقصود بانسبة هي قيمة يدفعها المشتري فوق السعر المعلن للبتكوين.

مثال في حالة بعت ماقيمته 1000$ بتكوين تتحصل على 1050$ عندك بيعك بنسبة 5%.

السبب يعود لصعوبة شراء البتكوين عبر البطاقات المصرفية بالدرحة الاولى.

ماهو النظام في بلدك؟ وهل ترا الطريقة التي قمت بتوضيحها منطقية وعادلة ام اسغلال من البائعين؟

نظرا لان الهدف الاساسي من هده المسابقة هو جلب رواد جدد للمنتدى فقررت ان لا اضع اي شروط بخصوص محتوى الموضوع...طبعا اي شخص يرغب في الفوز سيكون حريص على ان يقدم محتوى جيد.

بالنسبة لتاريخ القبول.. وقوفا عند رغبتك ورغبة بغض الاعضاء الاخرين ساقوم بتمديدها 5 ايام ليكون اخر يوم للمشاركة 25-7-2019.

في حال قدوم متاخر لمجموعة جيدة من المتسخدمين ساقوم بانشاء مبسابقة اخرى.. لا امانع ان انفق جل ما اتقضاه من حملة التوقيع الدي ارتديه للنهوض بالقسم العربي خصوصا لو كانت هناك نتائج اجابية.

الجزء الخاص بالتصويت يحتاج لتفاصيل اكتر بكل تاكيد..ولكن هده بعض النقاط المهمة

-لا يسمح للاعضاء المشاركين بالتصويت
-فقط الاعضاء دو رتبة full member فما فوق يمكنهم التصويت
-في عالة تعادل شخصان على مركز معين تحديد الفائز سيكون عبر تصويت اخر مابين المتعادلين
-الخاسر من تصويت التعادل سيحصل على مكافئة احددها نا

**في حال لم يكن هناك اي احد للتصويت ساقوم باختيار الفائزين بنفسي رغم ان هدا من شبه المستحيل ان يحصل.

افكر ايضا في اعطاء مكافاءة لكل المشاركين حتى ان لم يحصلو على تراتيب..المهم ان يقدمو مواضيعهم قبل يوم 20/7/2019