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5821  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll: 51% of Democrats support criminalizing hate speech on: May 08, 2015, 08:50:33 PM


The “assassin’s veto”


New York Daily News columnist Harry Siegel may not be a fan of Pamela Geller, but he’s much less a fan of those rushing to condemn her for her speech rather than lay blame at the feet of terrorists seeking to silence her. Having lived through the last round of Mohammed cartoon publications, Siegel blasts the media elite for missing the real threat while stroking their own egos by prioritizing their sneering at Geller over the threat to freedom of speech. In doing so, they are embracing the assassin’s veto, Siegel warns — after indulging in a short bout of sneering himself:


But the assassin’s veto, as historian Timothy Garton Ash termed “the use of violence to impose your taboos,” is pointed at her neck. The nastiness of her words, about “the savages” trying to impose Sharia law here, is no longer the issue.

The threat to Geller’s life for speaking is.

Yet many among the literati, who typically fancy themselves truth tellers and idol smashers, spent the last week competing to disdain the obvious and explain why the murdered Charlie Hebdo cartoonists weren’t worthy recipients of an award from a group dedicated to “defend(ing) writers endangered because of their work.”

One such useful idiot — who admits he’s never even read Hebdo — wrote “it seemed to me that ‘Je suis Charlie’ was a way for (Americans) to re-pledge their commitment to the War on Terror.” …

Flemming Rose, the editor who commissioned the 2006 Danish cartoons with little idea what he was getting into, and who a decade later still needs an armed guard (he and three colleagues are on an Al Qaeda-published hit list that also included Hebdo staffers), having survived several attempts on his life, explained why his paper didn’t run the French cartoons after those cartoonists were slaughtered: “Violence works. And sometimes the sword is mightier than the pen.”

He elaborated: “We caved in to intimidation. And I don’t think that we will get less intimidation because of that. Because we are telling the extremists that it works.”



We seem to have lost the sense of shared values we once held in free speech. At one time, that support for free speech had nothing to do with content — which is why the ACLU took the side of Nazis when they wanted to demonstrate in Skokie, Illinois in 1977, for instance, a city with a significant Jewish population. We all understood that everyone had a clear right to speak their opinions, especially in the context of a private meeting such as Geller, Robert Spencer, and Geert Wilders put on in Garland. Those who don’t agree don’t have to show up, and others can certainly disagree and criticize the event.

But when the bullets fly, we used to understand that taste was no longer the issue, and liberty is. Now, media elites and others have made defending liberty contingent on content. These same elites would hardly have criticized the speech of some in Ferguson if a couple of pro-police nuts showed up to shoot the crowd, and yet in this case the content of the speech is somehow the bigger problem than the violence two people attempted to use to silence it. That’s because the elites have decided that violent rhetoric toward the police fits within their tastes, while cartoons satirizing and criticizing Islam constitutes dangerous “hate speech” that offends their tastes. They don’t want to protect dissent — they want to enforce groupthink by putting dissent outside the bounds of free speech, for which the First Amendment was crafted.


http://hotair.com/archives/2015/05/07/nydn-the-rush-among-the-elites-to-embrace-the-assassins-veto/


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Seriously: What happened to liberals? Defending the terrorists now (calling them 'killers', 'attackers'), and instead wanting to shut down the tools that made them so infamous during the viet nam war and in so many other political occasions...

I guess they are all dead.


5822  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [VOTE] UK General Election 2015 on: May 08, 2015, 08:33:15 PM



Best part of a great night for UK conservatives? The vile George Galloway gets tossed

British conservatives didn’t have a great night in Thursday’s general election; they had a spectacular night.



Political observers were dumbfounded when the exit polling indicated that Prime Minister David Cameron’s party was on track to form a majority government. The pre-election polling suggested that the best his party could hope for was the prospect of forming another coalition government with a severely truncated Liberal Democratic minority in order to shut out an alliance between Labor and the ascendant Scottish National Party. As it happens, the Tories will enjoy monopoly control over the British government until 2020.

Outside of Scotland, progressivism took a real hit. This morning, a number of prominent liberal MPs find themselves unemployed. Perhaps none are more deserving of that status than the vile George Galloway. The former representative of the Bradford West constituency from the Orwellian-named Respect Party was one of the few former parliamentary representatives to lose their seat to a Labour candidate.

Of course, this notoriously gracious politician displaced his trademark magnanimity when he accepted his defeat. “I don’t begrudge the Labour members here their moment of celebration of course,” he said. “But there will be others who are already celebrating: the venal, the vile, the racists, and the Zionists will all be celebrating. The hyena can bounce on the lion’s grave, but it can never be a lion.”

Charming.

This is how this former MP who moonlights as a television host specializing in apologizing for the world’s most brutal regimes has comported himself for decades.

From even before the first Gulf War until the Iraqi dictator met his end on the gallows, Galloway became the foremost Western defender of Saddam Hussein. “Your excellency, Mr President, I greet you in the name of the many thousands of people in Britain who stood against the tide and opposed the war and aggression against Iraq and continue to oppose the war by economic means, which is aimed to strangle the life out of the great people of Iraq,” Galloway wrote to the Butcher of Baghdad ahead of their 1994 meeting. “I still meet families who are calling their newborn sons Saddam. Sir, I salute your courage, your strength your indefatigability. And I want you to know that we are with you until victory, until victory, until Jerusalem.”

After Hussein’s death, Galloway turned to defending other murderous autocratic regimes. “All the papers seem to imply that you get executed in Iran for being gay,” Galloway said in a 2008 television segment. “That’s not true.” Of course, Iran has been known to execute at least 4,000 suspected homosexuals since 1980 for either “active” or “passive” violation of anti-sodomy laws.

Galloway called Syria’s Bashar al-Assad a “breath of fresh air,” a grimly ironic turn of phrase considering that the Syrian dictator has been accused of using poison gas on civilian populations for the last three years with virtual impunity.

Galloway has insisted that he doesn’t recognize the state of Israel and even walked off a debate stage after he was informed that one of his interlocutors was an Israeli citizen.

“Russia has every right, indeed, obligation, to act in defense of its compatriots, its citizens, its economic and military assets which it has on the territory of the Ukraine by agreement and by treaty,” Galloway said of Moscow’s invasion and annexation of portions of Ukrainian territory in an RT interview for which he was well-compensated. Galloway added that it is always unwise for the West to “poke the bear with a stick.”

The former MP has even gone so far as to claim that ISIS’s many victims of persecution, beheading, displacement, and property destruction had been complicit in their own misfortune. “That population is quiescent because of Western policies and Western invasion,” he insisted of the territories in Iraq where ISIS operates, though he was curiously silent on ISIS’s Syrian incubator.

Of course, no anti-Western apologist can avoid the temptation of blaming capitalism for the world’s ills and of dubiously comparing his political adversaries to Hitler. Galloway called George W. Bush, Tony Blair, and other Western leaders of the last decade “criminals,” a title they earned “through their support for Israel, and through their support for a globalized capitalist economic system, which is the biggest killer the world has ever known.”

“It has killed far more people than Adolf Hitler,” Galloway said of the system of free market economics in a 2005 Al Jazeera interview. “It has killed far more people than George Bush. The economic system which these people support, which leaves most of the people in the world hungry, and without clean water to drink.”

A horrible quisling apologist for virtually all of the world’s bad actors, George Galloway has made a career of serving as an insufferable mouthpiece to any tyrant who submits the highest bid. The former MP will now have to offer his services without having the moral authority associated with holding elected office. It’s a small karmic justice but a welcome one to learn that Bradford West constituents finally came to their senses.


http://hotair.com/archives/2015/05/08/best-part-of-a-great-night-for-uk-conservatives-the-vile-george-galloway-gets-tossed/


5823  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 08, 2015, 08:15:04 PM

This is not a fact but an almost impossible act to follow. It's like trying to touch the horizon. You can't. But you have a path to follow, a direction the needle of your inner compass will point to... Some people have it naturally, others need guidance and a reminder why they are more than a animal, IF they chose to...



It's not impossible to follow but it's like one does not have any self respect if they let the other person abuse them and then offer them to abuse more.

I have seen and known people who do follow the bible and say "Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they are doing." They forgive those who have done wrong to them and ask me to do the same. I don't believe in this but I believe in punishing those who commit a crime. Jesus asked to forgive the Jews who nailed him on the cross but I will never forgive them. If we keep forgiving our criminals, what's the point of having any LAW then?



Then you don't believe in what the son of mary asked you to do...


5824  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2 GUNMEN KILLED OUTSIDE MUHAMMAD CARTOON CONTEST on: May 08, 2015, 08:11:56 PM



Breaking: FBI KNEW Terrorist Was Heading to Garland, TX – DID NOT Notify Organizers (VIDEO)


The FBI knew one of the gunmen in Sunday’s attack in Texas could be targeting the controversial Mohammad cartoon contest, anti-Islam conference… And they knew it hours before the attack occurred. That comes straight from the FBI director who just moments ago held a closed door meeting with reporters. The FBI put out a bulletin with suspect’s picture before the attack. He said it’s not clear if police in Garland, Texas knew about that bulletin.

I reached out to Pamela Geller Friday morning.
Here is what she said:

Q: Pamela were you notified by the FBI or local officials that terrorist Elton Simpson was heading your way?

Pamela Geller: No, we were not.

Q: Were your security officials notified?

Pamela Geller: No.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq8gA9LNFgk


5825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 08, 2015, 08:06:26 PM



The example of the dude beating his dog while going to church is why we are what we are... As none of us will go and help the dog, while being a church goer, like the dog beater...







5826  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 08, 2015, 07:56:55 PM
I don't hate any religion but yeah, some facts and rituals are quite unfair. Almost all religions have different rules for men and women. I don't think any religion should differentiate between two genders.

My religion as well has some facts I don't agree with. "If someone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other cheek as well." "If one doesn't go to the Church on every Sunday, he is a sinner".

Religion shouldn't make someone lose their self respect or make anything compulsory for a person else they are called sinners. I'm not an atheist but do criticize religion at times.


This is not a fact but an almost impossible act to follow. It's like trying to touch the horizon. You can't. But you have a path to follow, a direction the needle of your inner compass will point to... Some people have it naturally, others need guidance and a reminder why they are more than a animal, IF they chose to...

Same with judging. you cannot NOT judge at every moment, every time you breathe... Since those "orders" are impossible to follow to the letter, being the nature of human we will forever be sinners... I haven't open a bible in centuries but that is how I interpreted it.... I could be wrong, of course.


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5827  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [VOTE] UK General Election 2015 on: May 08, 2015, 02:51:59 PM







 Cheesy Grin Cheesy



5828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll: 51% of Democrats support criminalizing hate speech on: May 08, 2015, 02:42:37 PM



University of Minnesota Professors Told To Take Down Flyers For Event Featuring “Offensive” Mohammed Cartoon…






University of Minnesota faculty members were asked earlier this year to take down posters advertising an academic panel because they included an “offensive” recreated cartoon picture of Mohammed – the one made famous by Charlie Hebdo earlier this year.

The posters had advertised a panel discussion by various professors as well as a Minneapolis Star Tribune newspaper cartoonist. Co-sponsored by a dozen academic departments in the College of Liberal Arts following the attack on the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in January, it was titled “Can One Laugh at Everything? Satire and Free Speech After Charlie” and intended to generate an academic discussion of the tragedy and its consequences.

Flyers promoting the event featured the now-infamous image of the prophet as it was printed in Charlie Hebdo. The word “censored” was stamped in red diagonally across the cartoon image.

The organizers discussed whether or not to put the cartoon image of Mohammad on the flyer, but eventually decided it would be appropriate given the subject of the event—free speech and satire, Inside Higher Ed reported this week. But after the flyers were distributed online and hung around campus, some members of the Muslim student community wanted them taken down.

In phone calls and a petition, nearly 275 people complained to the campus Office of Equal Opportunity and Affirmative Action, calling the flyer “blasphemous” and insulting to Muslims, the Minnesota Daily campus newspaper reports. The complainants included students, faculty, a retired professor and random individuals unaffiliated with the university, who called the flyer “very offensive.”

The petition read in part that the flyer “violated our religious identity and hurt our deeply held religious affiliations for our beloved prophet (peace be upon him). Knowing that these caricatures hurt and are condemned by 1.75 billion Muslims in the world, the university should not have recirculated/reproduced them.”


http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/22367/


5829  Other / Politics & Society / ISIS Threatens To Declare War On Hamas ... on: May 08, 2015, 02:32:17 PM



Clashes apparently spiraled after Hamas demolished a mosque used by members of the Salafist organization called “Islamic State Supporters in Beit Al-Maqdis” as well as arrested nearly 40 of its members.

Reportedly, Hamas arrested the dozens of Salafists as well as several prominent Islamic State preachers in Gaza, following the Islamic State takeover of Palestinian refugee camp Yarmouk, near Damascus.

“After ISIS beheaded several Palestinian, including a senior Hamas official,” inside the camp in April, the International Business Times reported, “the Palestinian Intelligence agency swore that it would avenge the killing of its personnel.”

In response, the ISIS-affiliated group in the Hamas-controlled coastal enclave called Hamas “worse than the Jewish and American occupiers” and issued a proclamation on Monday giving Hamas 72 hours to release its detained members.

If not, the “ISIS Supporters in Beit Al-Maqdis” asserted they would kill, one by one, all of Hamas’ personnel.

Claiming it has data on all the names and addresses of those working for the Palestinian Intelligence Agency, the pro-ISIS group in Gaza went on to accuse Hamas of working for Israeli forces.

Despite concern of an escalation, Hamas has tried to reassure the Gazan public that the security situation is stable. “Residents can tour Gaza without need of a weapon from Rafah to Beit Hanoun,” Interior Ministry spokesman Iyad al-Bazam wrote on his Facebook page.



http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/195128#.VUzIovxVhBd


5830  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 08, 2015, 02:14:36 PM



Australia PM advisor says climate change a U.N.-led ruse to create new world order


SYDNEY – Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s top business adviser on Friday claimed climate change was a ruse encouraged by the United Nations to create a new authoritarian world order under its control.

Maurice Newman, chairman of the Prime Minister’s Business Advisory Council, said the real agenda was “concentrated political authority. Global warming is the hook.”

In a column for The Australian newspaper to coincide with a visit by U.N. climate chief Christiana Figueres, he added that the world had been “subjected to extravagance from climate catastrophists for close to 50 years.”

“It’s a well-kept secret, but 95 percent of the climate models we are told prove the link between human CO2 emissions and catastrophic global warming have been found, after nearly two decades of temperature stasis, to be in error,” he said, without providing evidence.

Newman, a former chairman of the Australian Broadcasting Corp., is a known climate change skeptic but he went further Friday by accusing the U.N. of being involved in a scam.

“Figueres is on record saying democracy is a poor political system for fighting global warming. Communist China, she says, is the best model,” he wrote.

“This is not about facts or logic. It’s about a new world order under the control of the U.N. It is opposed to capitalism and freedom and has made environmental catastrophism a household topic to achieve its objective.”

Figueres, in charge of getting a global emissions reduction agreement in Paris in December, was in Australia to meet business leaders and the public to discuss practical climate change action.

With its use of coal-fired power and relatively small population, Australia is one of the world’s worst per capita greenhouse gas polluters and has been increasingly isolated over its perceived reluctance to do more to tackle the climate threat.

In an interview with the ABC this week, Figueres said the nation had no option other than to gradually step back from coal — a key economic driver.

Newman said “hopefully, like India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Tony Abbott isn’t listening” to the U.N.

But he warned that “having gained so much ground, eco-catastrophists won’t let up.”

“After all, they have captured the U.N. and are extremely well-funded. They have a hugely powerful ally in the White House,” he said.


“They will continue to present the climate change movement as an independent, spontaneous consensus of concerned scientists, politicians and citizens who believe human activity is ‘extremely likely’ to be the dominant cause of global warming.

“And they will keep mobilizing public opinion using fear and appeals to morality.”

According to the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the global mean temperature could rise by up to 4.8 C this century alone, widely seen as a recipe for worse drought, flood and rising seas.

While Australia has a current target of reducing greenhouse gas emissions to 5 percent below 2000 levels by 2020, it has not yet announced further targets.


http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/05/08/asia-pacific/politics-diplomacy-asia-pacific/australia-pm-advisor-says-climate-change-u-n-led-ruse-create-new-world-order/#.VUyw1fxVhBe


5831  Other / Politics & Society / This is what is happening, without a US 1st Amendment, across the world... on: May 08, 2015, 02:01:39 PM



Teen YouTube Rant Tests Singapore’s Censorship Limits


Sixteen-year-old Amos Yee is the latest individual to run afoul of Singapore’s censorship rules




SINGAPORE—The trial of a teen video blogger charged with disparaging Christians is showcasing Singapore’s struggle to adapt its tradition of censorship to the realities of the digital era.

Sixteen-year-old Amos Yee is the latest online commentator to be prosecuted in the past year, on charges ranging from contempt of court to sedition. The video for which he was charged was posted on YouTube after the March 23 death of the country’s founding ruler, Lee Kuan Yew , and while it mostly concerned Mr. Lee, it also contained unflattering comments about Christians.

Mr. Yee was charged under Section 298 of the Penal Code, which criminalizes publishing material with the deliberate intention of wounding religious feelings. Mr. Yee has challenged the charges in court.

The cases show how the tightly-controlled city-state is struggling to draw the boundaries for what kind of online expression is acceptable and what speech could be a threat to the multiethnic, multireligious nation now that the means to create and disseminate material are available to almost anyone with an Internet connection.

In another case this week, the Media Development Authority, which regulates online content, ordered the suspension of online news portal The Real Singapore for publishing “objectionable” material that it said incited anti-foreigner sentiment. The material varied but was broadly about social issues in Singapore, often criticizing the actions of foreign workers and visitors to the country.

Two editors of the site have been charged by Singapore’s public prosecutor with sedition. They have denied any wrongdoing.

“I think it’s true to say we certainly have more people writing online; people are also clamoring for some things to be censored,” said Bryan Tan, a lawyer specializing in technology at law firm Pinsent Masons MPillay LLP in Singapore. “The alternative media has got a lot more bolder than it used to be.”

Mr. Tan said he had been approached by more than one online publisher since The Real Singapore was suspended, concerned about whether a precedent was being set and under what circumstances authorities might consider prosecution.

“I think we are all struggling to rationalize this,” Mr. Tan said. “Banning the website—that’s the equivalent of the death penalty.”


http://www.wsj.com/articles/teen-youtube-rant-tests-singapores-censorship-limits-1431081983


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People want to ban "hate speech"? Don't fall for it...



5832  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 08, 2015, 01:37:38 PM
of course, if we start a thread entitled "Why do peoples hate Judaism Islam"  (full disclosure I am athiest not jew, just noting the vast difference between these two topics - attempt is made to make you feel guilty if you hate/dislike Muslim, but hating Jews is totally acceptable)

and use this content in first post -

I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate Judaism islam? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because media'
and Yes, I am a Jew muslim for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE it, and I could be here to clarify things to you.
Also here is something that most people mistake about Judaism islam is that "Judaism Islam hates other religions" for this I say, Judaism Islam does not hate ANY religion, but it suggests to 'invite' them to Judaism islam, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because the other religions decided to come into war on Islam.

If you need anything clarified, I am here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care



The title of a next thread: "Why Do Islam Hates Islam: Sunnis Vs Shiites"


Anyone up for it?


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5833  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: May 08, 2015, 01:33:51 PM


I agree with you. His statement is quite hilarious. Islam in it's intended form doesn't give many rights to women thought theuir adherents seem to be delusioned that it does. Women can't do many things in many Muslim countries and they are treated like second class citizens as if men somehow have dominion over them.

For your kind information...Smiley

Before Islam womens were burnt alive just for the sake that they are womens...

Islam tell People that the womens and Girls are REHMAT for home...Smiley
Read History of Islam before u speak Smiley
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REHMAT ?


5834  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 08, 2015, 01:24:07 PM
Why do people hates Islam? Undecided


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776096.0;topicseen


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5835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 08, 2015, 01:19:05 PM
The "Success of New Socialism"?  Last I heard Venezuela wasn't doing too well.
"not doing so well" is downright optimistic when compared with global capitalism's state of affairs, which is unequivocally on the verge of total collapse. Along with the delicate balance of our biosphere, you dimwitted suicidal fucks.

Our biosphere is as tough as an old boot.  So said that Scottish ecology professor in a delightful 3on3 debate some years ago that was probably one of the major reasons the warmunistas won't do public debates against real scientists any longer.  In short they got their asses handed to them.  I think the link was posted here but don't recall for sure.  If not, here's one:  http://www.npr.org/2007/03/22/9082151/global-warming-is-not-a-crisis




Climate change is big news these days, from melting mountain glaciers to warming seas. But is the buildup of carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere leading to a crisis?

That was the question at the core of a recent Oxford-style debate called Intelligence Squared U.S. The series is based on the Intelligence Squared program that began in London in 2002. Three experts argue in favor of a motion; three others argue against it.

In this debate, the proposition was: "Global Warming Is Not a Crisis." In a vote before the debate, about 30 percent of the audience agreed with the motion, while 57 percent were against and 13 percent undecided. The debate seemed to affect a number of people: Afterward, about 46 percent agreed with the motion, roughly 42 percent were opposed and about 12 percent were undecided.


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5836  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: May 08, 2015, 04:48:14 AM



At Least Four Clinton Foundation Trustees Charged Or Convicted Of Financial Crimes



Shocking revelations show that at least four Clinton Foundation board of directors have either been charged or convicted of financial crimes, including bribery and fraud.

This newest, startling revelation is just one more of many in Peter Schweizer’s bombshell book Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich, the book that has sent the Hillary Clinton campaign and the media scrambling.

The book shows that there are many problems with the Clinton charity. In fact, the Clinton Foundation is so unlike a real charity that even charity watchdog group Charity Navigator refuses to rate the Clinton Foundation because of its “atypical business model.”


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/07/revealed-four-clinton-foundation-trustees-charged-or-convicted-of-financial-crimes/



5837  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll: 51% of Democrats support criminalizing hate speech on: May 08, 2015, 04:42:04 AM
I can support this either =)) If you know what i mean. =))  There are some types of a hate speech that should not be tolerated. For example if some person threatening to kill you.


Exhibit A: Islamic Imam Anjem Choudary told Pamela Geller tonight that she should be slaughtered for her Texas cartoon contest. Is that a threat... Or a direct threat?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3xuj-aJyaE


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5838  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 08, 2015, 01:29:52 AM

https://i.imgur.com/wX2bf2d.jpg

...
Love-a-lution- RIGHT NOW!

CLIMATE CHANGE AFFECTS EVERYONE …

Come,
Come,
Join this Love-a-lution
Warriors heed
The calling of your hearts
....
Grandmother Turtle is
Gonna lead the way
Guide us to a better day
Her back is strong and wide enough

http://newsroom.unfccc.int/lima/6-may-2015-this-week-climate-song-for-paris-cop21/


I'm not saying that I'd like to see one of the cult leaders (e.g., Al Gore) go full Jim Jones on these nut-cases, but it would solve about the only real problem that exists vis-a-vis 'global climate change'.  If I had to pick between this crowd and the millions and millions of developing world souls who are going to die as a result of the austerity these folks are being led to promulgate it would be a no-brainer to me.




A crowd asking everyone else to stop cooking with charcoal, while flying on private planes all over the world...








5839  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll: 51% of Democrats support criminalizing hate speech on: May 08, 2015, 01:23:10 AM
I thought hate-speech was already outlawed? Call someone a derogatory term for a jew or African American and you'll probably get arrested, but I bet you get a free pass on anti-muslim hatespeech. Guess there's always double standards.

Check it out. It's someone new who writes "jew" instead of "Jew." It's almost like there's one person with 100 alts.

"Hate speech" (i.e., speech powerful people want to suppress) is outlawed in most of the world. It's in the process of happening in the U. S. This is further evidence that the human race is earning extinction.

What? What does failing to capitalize the J in Jews have to do with anything?

I thought hate-speech was already outlawed? Call someone a derogatory term for a jew or African American and you'll probably get arrested, but I bet you get a free pass on anti-muslim hatespeech. Guess there's always double standards.


It is not. https://www.stormfront.org/forum/


Well you could link to a site selling cp or some site that is hosted in a specific country whilst being illegal in others so that doesn't necessarily prove anything. What is and what isn't hatespeech will also depend on a persons agenda. Take the Charlie Hebdo situation. Many were exercising their free speech to criticize Islam then a french comedian merely made a joke and said 'Charlie Coulibaly' and got arrested for it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/french-comedian-dieudonn-given-suspended-sentence-over-charlie-hebdo-joke-10117120.html


In this instance this thread is about freedom of speech in the USA only. The other countries and their laws do not matter here. In another thread? Sure.

The stormfront server is in the USA and is legal to operate because of the first amendment. A server with cp on it in the USA will be shut down as it is not free speech but a criminal enterprise with sick people that need to be destroyed, on sight.


5840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kim Dotcom Awarded Millions For Legal Bills and Living Expenses on: May 08, 2015, 01:14:57 AM
I hope that 500 years down the road, we will look at the current system and consider it the dark ages. Just like we look at medieval peonship today and cannot believe that such a horrible system ever existed.

I hope that the future will be such that liberty will be much greater, because the limit will be that a persons action cause no harm to another person, directly and measurably.

Paradise is where victimless crimes are no crimes IMHO  Cry



Or... The power that be pushing for a new world order would be in control 500 years from now and will delete this moment in existence had ever happened, since everything we do is digital. That, or a massive solar storm.

Harder to erase a 3000 year old pyramid though...


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