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5861  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Waves Sell Or Hodl? on: February 11, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
Hodl all waves tokens because waves released beta version. It improve itself every time. Its team are hardworking team I have ever seen

I agree on the technical part, but there is a problem with the quality of many of the projects that are being launched at this moment on the WAVES platform. I do love the wallet, the market and the leasing.
5862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Waves Sell Or Hodl? on: February 11, 2018, 08:05:26 PM
I have 100 Waves. Its price now falling down and down. I'm in Confusions Sell it or Hodl it now!

Waves at this moment kind of sucks. The platform is great, the tokens are easy to create and it has many tools. Now the promoters have to get their heads of their assess and start launching good projects.
5863  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Viberate live music on: February 11, 2018, 08:03:49 PM
We reward Viberate users who contribute content into our database (adding profiles, curating information in existing ones) and promote the service on social media, forums or sharing their referral link and inviting people. More rewarded actions will be added as we go, but the ones we’ve launched with are capable of getting you a significant amount of VIB tokens as long as you do a good job.
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/01/31/viberate-imogen-heap-strive-give-equal-opportunity-every-artist/
https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/viberate-coo-viberates-blockchain-will-become-airbnb-music/
https://change-underground.com/viberate-end-ticketing-fraud/
https://cryptovest.com/news/viberate-vib-music-platform-booms-ahead-of-enterprise-ethereum-alliance-partnership/
https://blokt.com/icos/viberate-ico-review


Yep, the Viberate programme is well know. I do believe on this project long term and I think that is heading in the right direction. The ICO sold really fast and I would recommend anyone that is into music to get involved.
5864  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What is the most critical moments in Cryptocurrency and Bitcoin history on: February 11, 2018, 07:54:12 PM
Hi All Members,

Most critical moments in Cryptocurrency history of yourself;
01. Most Painful Cry Cry
02. Happiest Grin Grin

What we do in that moments!

Appreciate your reply to newcomers for cryptocurrency industry

One of the most difficult moments occurred at the beginning of  BTC, when an intervention was needed as some guys found a fault and were trying to create bitcoin from nothing. Almost successfully.
5865  Economy / Economics / Re: BTC: Large upward move is emminent on: February 11, 2018, 07:51:20 PM
There are great signs that BTC will experience a large boost very shortly.

If you have been watching the recent financial markets you are certainly aware of the large downtrend in the Dow Jones. Just a comparison: one percentage point drop in the dow jones corresponds to a loss of about 70bn in market capitalization. And over the last few days, the Dow is down by 10%.

And in the meantime, BTC has been ... going up.

Until now, serious investors were happy riding the upward trend in the normal financial markets. With the recent downturn, investors will be looking for alternative assets to invest in. BTC in particular and crypto-markets in particular will be noticed as uncorrelated to the normal financial markets and thus as an interesting asset class for diversification purposes.

Particularly if the Dow contains dropping while BTC remaining flat or increasing, more and more traditional investors will move their money into the crypto markets. When this happens the new money will significantly push up the price of BTC.

Great times ahead!

Yep, that is great really. Much more stupid money coming into  the market. I am just wondering where to put my money just to grab as much of it as possible. An I am not racist at all, so Korean money is as much welcome as american´s.
5866  Economy / Economics / Re: Why we need price crashes and panic selloffs on: February 11, 2018, 07:48:00 PM
This is just a thought that occurred to me while reading some posts around here, feel free to discuss it or even criticize it. So if we want Bitcoin to rise in the future, we need it to crash first and many wannabe traders to sell off their coins at a loss when the price is low. If people don't close their positions in panic now and just wait out bad times, they simply won't let prices grow later because they will get out whenever the price rises just enough for them. But if they fix their losses, they will no longer have bitcoins to record minor profits and thus drag the price down in the future. As a consequence, the price can surge higher without a lot of selling pressure at bigger figures when the hype and buying frenzy begins anew.

The bottom line is that it is kinda required for Bitcoin to crash occasionally for the prices to rise higher eventually.

These crashes occurs because the market is immature and there is plenty of money coming into crypto from the regular joe on the street that would not even consider investing, for example, in high tech publicly traded companies.

So, yes there are necessary and they are welcome. I don´t particularly like to see my portfolio loose so much value in a week, but if that´s what´s needed... so be it.
5867  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coincheck confirms hack on: February 11, 2018, 07:40:58 PM
I just don´t believe any of those exchanges and companies that say that they are hacked. I think that they are simply running away with the coins and the saying they were hacked. I would love to see some people hit the jail to stop this shit.
5868  Economy / Economics / Re: it is possible fiat currency will crashed? on: February 11, 2018, 07:39:26 PM
I consider it will never have crashed because Bitcoin and Fiat currency is dissimilar to each other. It will have crashed merely if wholly the nation combined forces to ban fiat and only used cryptocurrencies. But it's awkward. It’s not similar to Bitcoin who can we enterprise the value of it down. I mean is that the price of Fiat Currency is founded on somewhat, and the something is the economy of a state, and it is tough to make it crash

You have not much historic background do you? Just google the Republic of Weimar, just before Hitler´s ascent to power. You will find out that the German "mark" was not even worth its own weight in bread.
5869  Local / Tokens (Español) / Re: 🔥【ANN】【ICO】⭐EFFECT.AI RED DESCENTRALIZADA PARA LA I.A.⭐Powered by NEO🔴【VENTA!】 on: February 11, 2018, 07:36:06 PM
¡Qué ganas tengo de que comience esta ICO! Estos champis van a poner en su sitio a Amazon y muchos otros gigantes que están acostumbrados a que nadie les pueda toser. ¡A por ellos! Grin
5870  Local / Tokens (Español) / Re: [ANN] ICE ROCK MINING - INGRESOS DE POR VIDA - MINERIA DE BITCOIN - Con video!! on: February 11, 2018, 07:28:33 PM
Y la ICO sigue en camino. Con una recaudación de más de 1 millón de dólares, esta va a ser una de las minas de Bitcoin más espectaculares. Y lo mejor es que puedes formar parte de ello por menos de lo que te cuesta el regalo de San Valentín de tu novio o novia. (Desde 100$).

https://icerockmining.io/
5871  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Estafas BITCOIN >>>>BitcoinScammers<<<<< on: February 10, 2018, 09:13:46 PM
Muy buenas a todos.

Me acabo de encontrar con esto:

http://100-btc.net/

Alguien lo ha probado? Suena a estafa... Cómo lo veis?

De verdad que no hace falta ni preguntarlo .. Unos tios que dicen que van a multiplicar tus bitcoins por 100 gracias a un fallo que tal y cual.... en serio, necesitar preguntar?
5872  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: how can i search good airdrops?? on: February 10, 2018, 09:04:59 PM
hello,please suggest me. how can i find good upcoming airdrops??

The obvious answer is the bounty section of this forum. I does not get much better than that, although I understand that you may have to dig. IMO airdrops are rarely profitable compared with the time it takes to look for them and join.
5873  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin making alts useless on: February 10, 2018, 09:02:11 PM
We probably have multiple alts that one could consider as better version of bitcoin but as you're noticing, bitcoin is gaining more popularity and a fast growth. The price is not a measure of a coin success so what I'm referring to here is the the number of ATMs, exchanges, stores, services, and people accepting it.

So even If we have some people using alts currently because they believe they are better then bitcoin (which may be true), bitcoin is evolving and the development is super active and exciting times are coming. I honestly believe that this make alts useless (say, by the end of the year), your thoughts?

You are right in a way. I am into alts much more than into bitcoin, but I do make a difference between coins, utility tokens and dividend tokens. Of these, only coins and utility really need adoption, and some of the utility tokens don´t need a lot, as their value is backed by services.

 Regarding Bitcoin in the incoming year, while I really hope the best for bitcoin, as hodl some, for the moment it has shown a less than ideal ability to deal with the disagreement in its own community and a very slow implementation of the latest developments along with a centralised (large mine) governing group and lack of consideration for the everyday user.

To sum up, either Bitcoin moves quickly or Alts will make it irrelevant. As I am writing this, bitcoin is only 35% of the market cap.

https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/
5874  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: What NOT to do on an ICO - compiling a list of bad habits for ICO launchers on: February 10, 2018, 12:12:42 AM
I am opening this thread so that people who have been on ICOs and have endured them can provide a guide for "good practice" for companies launching ICOs.

PLEASE DON´T POST GENERIC COMMENTS. I intend to curate the thread and edit this message is sufficient members have relevant things to say. If you want to spam, there are many threads out there.

My own contribution:

- Obviously, don´t scam.
- Set clear Soft and Hard Caps and don´t change them.
- Have your telegram groups moderated.
- Have a group for bounties and treat your hunters as partners, not as beggars.
- Don´t make decisions that harm your community and investors. It will come back as negative publicity.
- Do no whitelist three times more contributors than what you need. At a certain point is best to close the list because you will create a community of angry people than will not ever buy your token.

Please, add...

- Update you bounty hunters on their progress. Be understanding to them because they are, as you say, your partners.
5875  Economy / Economics / Re: it is possible fiat currency will crashed? on: February 10, 2018, 12:09:56 AM
I heard Robert Kyosaki is talking about the crashed of FIAT CURRENCY? when this thing will happen? how are we going to respond?


I am not precisely a fan of Kyosaki, who has made his living of telling US residents that they should try not to f*king spend all their money as soon as they get the weekly check.

Fiats don´t really crash except in some poorly governed countries, but they do drop in value progressively as the interests rates are lower than inflation. A slow death IMO.
5876  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: bonkers idea on: February 10, 2018, 12:04:33 AM
Hi

I wonder if it would be possible to create a coin that

  • promotes less use of electricity.... one way could be to limit who can mine the coin like low power devices (just a thought)
  • do not have the create something from nothing "issue"
  • it might be an illusion but also a coin that promotes more trust and have a more stable exchange rate

As good as any other place to post. The thing is that there are already projects that are experimenting with combinations that look for all those things. The world does not need another coin please. But I am going to merit you, because you are giving some thought to cryptos, although you don´t look newby at all for your question.
5877  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is a million dollars possible? on: February 10, 2018, 12:01:14 AM
Let me give you the best answer that I can:

1000 dollar in Populous in June 2017 would have given you 14.000. Make your own calculations on what may happen if you choose wisely 3 or 4 times in a year.
5878  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: $100 Investment on Altcoin with 100x return - What is it today? on: February 09, 2018, 11:55:07 PM
As I am wirting this, I have faith in ArcBlock and InsurePal. Both of them are very successful in community and the projects are very solid. Great teams too.
5879  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DeepOnion: An "unbiased" Review, Part 2 on: February 09, 2018, 11:53:18 PM
It has been a little over a month since I did "An 'unbiased' coin review of DeepOnion". I have had some request to follow this up and also some questions raised that I would like to answer:

  • Do my arguments still stand up?
  • Do I still see DeepOnion as a good investment?

So welcome to "DeepOnoin: An "unbiased" Review, Part 2". If you haven't read the original article you can find it as a Steemit Article, BitCoinTalk Thread or as a DeepOnion Thread. To prevent this article from becoming unbearably long I will assume that you are already familiar with the topics brought up in Part 1. If not, I would suggest having a look in one of the links and get back here when you are all caught up.

For those that just need a short reminder:
“DeepOnion  is a crypto currency that is natively integrated into the TOR network and ensures anonymity of the users by hiding their IP address to the other nodes. It is a combined PoW and PoS coin with most of the coins being "pre-mined" and distributed through AirDrops and Bounty campaigns”


New and Previous Questions on the DeepOnion Project

In the last article I brought up some points that people had lifted in regards to why they (at the time) avoided to invest in DeepOnion:

  • The development team is anonymous
  • The technology isn’t unique
  • There is no whitepaper

Except to follow up on my conclusions on these points I would like to raise another two points, that people have raised to me, which made them hesitant to invest in DeepOnion

  • DeepOnion isn’t fully secure since it is integrated to an old version of TOR
  • TOR integrated cryptocurrencies are not always a possibility since some countries are blocking access to TOR

Anonymous Development Team

I will mention that the DeepOnion team is still anonymous and I don’t see that changing. This is something that should be taken into account as a potential risk before deciding to invest.
DeepOnion has announced that at least two new developers have joined the team in the last month and work is ongoing.

To remind the readers, there are ways to validate the work/progress of a team, even if they are anonymous, and it is something that I already covered in the last article and won’t rehash what has already been said. If you want to find out more I suggest you check out the previous article.


The technology isn’t unique and there is no Whitepaper

I am combining these bullet points to one since the major change for DeepOnion since the last article is that they have released their Whitepaper. I mentioned that the release was imminent and “lo-and-behold” a week later it was available for the public.

If you haven’t read it I certainly recommend you do. It is a fairly easy read and clearly shows that DeepOnion is very open and honest with the parts of the technology that isn’t unique and that by "using existing industry-leading standards, within cryptography and network security, provide security on multiple levels".

The “industry-standards” (TOR, Zero Knowledge, CoinJoin + Multi sig -> DeepSend) isn’t anything unique but the multi-layered approach chosen by Deeponion, by combining these, is very much unique and interesting.


I think the whitepaper proves exactly the point I wanted to make in Part 1. “Is not the whole greater than the sum of its parts?”

The “whole” that DeepOnion is trying to create is something unique, a privacy platform where DeepOnion Native Apps can be developed and used safely, securely and completely anonymous: DeepVault, WooCommerce plug-in, Mobile Wallets and more…

Is DeepOnion really secured via TOR and what about blocked regions?

In ANN threads and in comments I have read some input detailing that the DeepOnion wallet use an old version of TOR and is therefore not fully secure. Some also noted that even if a TOR update occurs not everyone will be able to benefit since TOR traffic is blocked in certain regions/countries. These were actually legitimate concerns that I hadn’t considered in my first review and that I started to look into. As it turns out it seems that the DeepOnion development team beat me to the punch, so-to-say.

  • This week (2018-29-01) DeepOnion launched a new Desktop Wallet which is natively integrated into the latest TOR upgrade (0.3.3.0) and also supports OBFS4

The integration of OBFS4 into the latest DeepOnion wallet makes it possible for people, even in blocked regions, to use the TOR network. This is because OBFS4 obfuscates the message protocol details so that all traffic looks random and it can’t be identified as TOR traffic. This will allow apps to connect to TOR from anywhere.

In answer to this I will begin by starting off to quote the DeepOnion whitepaper:

“We incorporate the latest privacy standards into our technology stack, such as the inclusion of the latest TOR protocol to ensure that our community members remain secure and anonymous in all aspects of their finances”


I think everything in this section goes back to something I brought up in the previous article: How to evaluate an anonymous team?. Two of the points I covered were:

  • How well does the coin adhere to the roadmap?
  • What is the status of the features that are already launched?

In my opinion this last month gives a strong indication that the DeepOnion team is very much active and listening to the inputs of the community. And also that they are working to live up to the roadmap and promises in the whitepaper.

Note: If you think the TOR update will involve downloading a new wallet every time TOR makes an updates, this is currently not in the plan. The plan is to keep the integration to the current version, unless any specific need for another update is discovered, so that won’t be a cause for continuous wallet updates.

If you want to find out more about the DeepOnion wallet update feel free to check out this thread in the DeepOnion forum: https://deeponion.org/community/threads/introducing-deeponion-1-5-0-wallet-for-windows-integrated-with-obfs4.27626/.
If you want to find out more about what OBFS4 is and how to set it up I found this thread on the Deeponion forum: https://deeponion.org/community/threads/deeponion-has-integrated-with-obfs4.28106/

Price Movement

As a final topic I would like to look on the price movement of DeepOnion in the last month and what a ride that have been. At the time, when I wrote Part 1, DeepOnion price was at: $3/ONION (BTC = $14 000). Since then it soared up to a staggering $20/ONION, as ATH, and has since experienced a correction down to $7/ONION which is the price as of writing today. It is worth noting that some of these movements have been due to big fluctuations in BitCoin price which had an ATH at $20 000 and is now down at around $10 000.


Still DeepOnion has had a good run with over 100% gain in the last month and this is despite an overall drop in BTC (-30%). The DeepOnion price has now dropped 65% from ATH and it might be a good time to step in if you think BTC has reached the bottom and that this project has merit.

Final Words

Do I have nothing negative to say about this coin?! Nothing that stands out but what bears mention is that the major functions such as the Zero-Knowledge Proof, DeepSend and Private Smart Contracts have not yet been released. These are the functionalities that will act as the base for the multi-layered communications protocol and on which all the native Apps will operate. No one can predict the future whether Deeponion will be able to fulfill on delivering this "privacy platform" and should always be taken into any risk assessment.

Personally I see great potential in the Deeponion project and I am comforted by the fact that they are using tried and tested technology, which in my opinion reduces the risks involved (compared to when developing something entirely new).

Those of you who might think that with the recent releases it might be quiet for a while, and there will be time to step in later, might end up regretting those thoughts. The word is that the DeepOnion Android Wallet release is imminent (I even saw the first transfer done during the last Live Q&A session, held last week) and VoteCentral  has been promised to follow in a close second. Following those releases development is said to continue with iOS wallet, Zero-Knowledge integration, the DeepSend feature and Private Smart Contracts. Who knows, in a month or two I might make a Part 3 with further updates.

Lets now think back to the questions that I stated in the beginning of this article


Do I still consider DeepOnion a good investment?
The answer is maybe obvious: Yes!
Since this ended up being a lot more “pro-ONION” than I had initially planned. I had this whole thing set up, with positives and negatives to remain objective by lifting up the issues that I had researched with outdated TOR version and blocked regions. Since these were the only “questionable” points I had found so far, in regards to DeepOnion, I must admit that I was perfectly foiled by the recent Wallet update.

Do I think my arguments still stand up?
I would say yes and even stronger than before, especially regarding verifying the work of an anonymous team and the promise of the whitepaper release. The argumentation in regards to “not having unique technology” was very well addressed in the whitepaper and concurred with my own views. DeepOnion has chosen tried and tested technologies for a reason and are combining these to something new.

Some might think I should change the title to a “biased” DeepOnion review but I can’t really change my conclusions just because it came out very positive for DeepOnion. This time I won’t apologize this time for the long article but rather say Thank You to all of you that made it all the way here to the bottom and I hope you enjoyed the reading.

For more information on DeepOnion check out the links in my signature for DeepOnion Homepage, Whitepaper, AirDrop and ANN Thread.

Disclaimer: I am no financial advisor so you should always do your own research before choosing to invest in any project


I am loosing my faith a bit in this coin. I think is technically excellent but I would like to see more development and less marketing and "airdrops" that are not really airdrops
5880  Other / Meta / Re: [List] Suspected users that are abusing merit 3.0 on: February 09, 2018, 11:50:58 PM
Is there any place where I can find and objective definition of what constitutes an abuse of the system?

a) Meriting "too much"?
b) Mutually sending merit?
c) Sending merit to accounts that seem to be linked by exchange of tokens?
d) Meriting to ANN threads?
e) Which other cases?

Who is going to decide if the abuse is considered as such? That is, is there a "jury" and an "appeals process"?

Please point me to any link or resource if there is any.


Why are posting this same thing here again. You already created a thread with same content here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2909419.0

Is there any place where I can find and objective definition of what constitutes an abuse of the system?

a) Meriting "too much"?
b) Mutually sending merit among users or groups of users?
c) Sending merit to accounts that seem to be linked by exchange of tokens?
d) Meriting to ANN threads?
e) Which other cases?

Who is going to decide if the abuse is considered as such? That is, is there a "jury" and an "appeals process"?

Please point me to any link or resource if there is any. I do know that merit should be sent to post that are "of quality", but I am asking for something specific.

Because after writing it, I though that it deserved its own thread.
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