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5861  Economy / Economics / Re: What Will it Take For BTC to Reach $1000? on: May 12, 2015, 01:33:25 AM
What Will it Take For BTC to Reach $1000?

Let's discuss.

i think it needs many investors and also everyone needs to hold their bitcoins and sell it at a high price

If there are many investors the price will compete to each other and this will make the price drop, but let say if all of them just want to sell at high price and no one will sell at low how can the price is going to raise?
5862  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: May 12, 2015, 01:29:45 AM
I believe that most people on this forum earn their main income of bitcoin from the signature, personal messaging, and profile picture campaigns.  It's an easy way to make money and honestly, I didn't believe it at first that people were being paid half a dollar per post - other forums paid a cent or two!!!

Yes this is easy money that we can get from campaign but I dont think most of them is earning from signature campaign. May be some of them is doing signature campaign for their main profit but more of them is do trading bitcoin or altcoin. They can get like about 0.02++ just in one day and if you got lucky may be more. This signature campaign is like sidejob to them besides trading
5863  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: May 11, 2015, 05:22:28 PM
No neither its dead nor dying. Bitcoin has a great future and it will grow its value in coming years Once the Government start accepting as a currency it will grow more and that would directly increase its value so i don't think its dying for next 15 to 20 years atleast.

But how are you so sure that government will acppeted our bitcoin is this world? There is so many things that they must do before they are going to aceppt it and I dont think they will do that. There is fiat that government control so I dont think its value will rise with this kind of way

That's the problem we are facing that Government will not accept the bitcoin as currency. It's really difficult to believe that Government will accept it as its an threat for an fiat money and banking system so lets what future is going to offer us is it bitcoin or fiat?

I dont think I get you word. But what I know is we just can wait for the best, may be government will came out with new regulation about bitcoin that profitable to us. Why not we going for it? For noww we just can save or earn as many as bitcoin we have and make it alive not let it dying

Yeah believing in the best we can think positive that Government gives full support to bitcoin and start adopting and accepting it as a currency. Need to have patience and preserve the bitcoins for the future and can trade when the right time and right value is offered.

You cannot simply afford to blame Governments everytime. You should blame the media for this once the adoption is increased bitcoin will regain its value and i don't think its dead all countries will start accepting it then it would definitely regain its position.

The government is the right place to blame. Why? Because they act to slow for this kind of method of payment? You can see the future of this bitcoin and still they are still finding more and more regulation just to control this bitcoin just for themselves and that is not for us. And the media is like mediator to connect us and government so they will know how big is this bitcoin is
5864  Other / Off-topic / Re: If BTC goes to $1000 or more, what would you do? on: May 11, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
well if BTC goes $1000 usd i would just sell my bitcoin for profit

Yes many people will sold it for sure but how about some people that are going to hold it? And they is still aiming for higher? What to do by then? I suggest you see the market if it a good time for a drop or not because there are still have a chance the price is going over, altough you already get huge profit from it and why dont you make it higher rather than stop there? Is that right?
5865  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: May 11, 2015, 05:09:34 PM

but if there are an emergency and you need those money, you can't get them because they are locked(if for fixed deposit you mean that) by the bank, also the return per year is very slim

i think it's better to create a business if you want to save money, then just simply invest them, in something that has low risk

for example you could buy things on ebay and sell those at a higher rate somewhere else

i think its better to invest your money 30-40% and save your money 60% to backup if you need anything
because an investment have risk to lose your money.
Have a great risk but have a greater return.But don't worry about your investment you can make a business so that you can take over your loss in investment to your business but don't make a many business that you can't handle so you can avoid deficit on your business.

thats right, i aggre with you.
high risk high return. of course
and you risk tolerance before investing.
yeah. If you want to have a big profit you must to invest, saving is for a person that who wants to buy something or to have a extra cash in case of emergencies.

if want to have big profit you must to invest, but dont forget any high risk too
i think it's better to invest with low risk.

I guess there is no such investment because all investment sure got high risk and the payout is great and if you got some investment that have a low risk the payment sure is very low and its not worth to invest at there
Thats right no investment that low risk, even a business have risk. But theres a classification of risk, Low risk and High risk. If you invest in low risk for sure your income or your profit will also low, Vice Versa of high risk.

Yes its true but whats the point of doing low risk with the low payment? Better if you make a high risk investment and get the good payment, though both of them sure got some risk and the chance of winning it 50/50 so better gamble it whether winning it or losing all of it
5866  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 11, 2015, 05:04:59 PM
I think make yourself busy, like posting in this thread or other thread, you can also make a post or reply so that you can make a many post for your signature campaign. Or just have a recreational activity.

Just like that? I guess this signature campaign is just for a sidejob here, the main job is actually do a trading and get profit from it as much as you can but waiting for the sell of our bitcoin is not a good ide if it take for some a week. So in one week you just can get only about 90% from signature campaingn and 10% is from trading? So whats the point of doing trading then if just get about 10%?
5867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ♥E-Sports Picks : CSGO-DOTA2 on: May 11, 2015, 04:55:17 PM
Result first day :
Dota2
WIN : 6
LOSE : 3
CS:GO
WIN : 1
LOSE : 2


I guess that is quite good pick for starter but can you really give the description of your winning for the proof that you really win this? Dont just said it win and lose but no proof. I think people will hesitate to follow your pick if you doing like this
5868  Economy / Economics / Re: 2014 Poll: How many bitcoins do you own? on: May 11, 2015, 04:52:36 PM
My target is to have between 30 - 50.

I feel that would be a good position to be in.

I am not there yet unfortunately!!

If your target is to having this 30-50 bitcoin only from buying I guess that is quite easy to get but its better for you to play a lot of trading, signature campaign, gambling or anything that can increase your own bitcoin without spend your own fiat. You can do saving and investing both of it so it will be like hit 2 birds with 1 rock  Grin
5869  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: May 11, 2015, 04:41:42 PM
I don't get bitcoin everyday from any source.  When I first began I used a list of faucets but then shortly after I figured out 3,4 cents USD was not worth the time and that the owner was the only one making money.

It might be possible to make bitcoin everyday if you are interested in trading... gambling is also an option but it is way risky for someone who is new to it. If you aren't interested in faucets, cloudmining, signatures... then you can look for online work that pays in bitcoins... You should check out the web there are several sites which require freelancing and similar kind of jobs

Why you include signature campaign in his not interest part? I guess its a must for a newbie to do signature campaign altough the payment is low but at least you can get so many information plus get your payment but with faucet and other things is is just wasting time and you wont get any useful information with this bitcoin. Why there are so many people that suggest newbie for a signature campaign rather than faucets or other similar things
5870  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: May 11, 2015, 04:32:00 PM
simple strategy : sell 1 BTC and buy 1,1 BTC (after) ... with fixed orders (and an amount of BTC stocked on the virtual exchange).
volatility of BTC do the job (nightly, usually).

if you are lucky ... bear or whale test the high/low trading of the exchange and you can earn like 2 BTC in 1 night. Cheesy

But trading is dangerous, risky, and highly profitable, be careful. Easy to be broke or rich, haha

I dont think it will be that easy. How can you get that 0.1 that fast just by trading in one night? And again you double your bitcoin just in one night? That is really hard to believe because the price must be down till 1/2 and then you can sell it but the price for now is not that high ti be truth so its impossible to make that trade
5871  Economy / Economics / Re: What would a bitcoin collapse look like? on: May 10, 2015, 05:48:46 PM

The Bitcoin developers look bad, the currency would look bad, people would start to lose faith in the protocol. People start to sell Bitcoin, head into “cold storage” to sell dormant BTC, and meanwhile the backlog gets worse and worse.


How did you know that developers look bad? I dont think there is some developer to control the movement of this bitcoin. I guess it is based on the market of the bitcoin volume so you can't judge them and there is still so much people invest in this bitcoin because they believe the price will going raise again. I think your statement too much false in it
5872  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ♥E-Sports Picks : CSGO-DOTA2 on: May 10, 2015, 05:27:59 PM
dota mmr has very little do with picks to be honest.


If it has nothing to do with pick why he bother post it? It will make people saw his prediction like nothing and he can't proof that he is good with pickings plus that he has 0/0/0 stat that make him underestimated by other people
My MMR dota2 low I know that.
Just my predictions and sure I can't prove I'm good at picks.
If I lose a lot just counter my picks. Ez values right ?
Do this for fun Smiley.
Unlucky in love so I think lucky in picks  Cool
I have bet for 6 months, longest win streak is 20. Stop bet for few months. Now I start betting again

You can start post your prediction right here and all of us in this forum can judge whether you are a really good picker or just do some random guess for picking. There is still no proof that you are having 20 streaks
5873  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Surges Higher (& Higher) on: May 10, 2015, 05:24:18 PM
Whether it goes higher or not, but we are definitely not going down below $200 which beartrolls were barking all the time, and that's making every Bull feel proud considering the current situation.

We are in another deadcat bounce and not yet at the bottom for Bitcoin.

We are going below $150 (within several months) before we go to $1000 again some years later.

And I am not a Bitcoin bear.

I guess we are gonna raise for $1000 without touching $150. You can see the market for now, I think it will hold it just for a moment before it will going to the moon and hope everything is all according to the plan

It won't reach $150 for obvious reasons. But the road to $1000 is still far away. We must be happy to see the price around $500 in 2016 after the halving.

Yes that is so true. This is a long way to go $1000 but at least at the end of 2015 I guess the price will go to $500++ and this will attract other to play this bitcoin and just for a moment bitcoin will sure become mainstream and the price will be higher again
5874  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: where you get bitcoin every day? on: May 10, 2015, 05:19:29 PM
What's kind of website? I think if you have brain enough you should know that website is faucet!
Faucet may not good for you but for someone is good!
You can't even know that what's kind of website? LOL  Tongue Tongue Tongue

For those who can cheat it may be its good and that become their living fund because they can get a lot from it. I think some of people use it because they got the bot to auto play it and they just sitting do nothing then make it useful.  But for me its still just wasting time because I didnt have bot to play it

I would agree with doing it yourself the pay is just to small on faucets.  No one can really justify it new or old.

I think there are bot's out there, but most likely they are kept secret.  If they were widley used they would fix it, so maker is better off staying quiet.  And yes captacha stops this on most.   But I have no doubt there are some bots out there working right now.  Sadly I am not one of them either.

Yeah its true, they will keep only for themself and they will keep cheating without anyone notice and we can just do trading, signature campaign or  may be gambling just to increase our sum of bitcoin. I guess that is the purpose of making this bitcoin for the start right? We can learn and learn how to do trading
5875  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: May 10, 2015, 05:16:31 PM
Whether you save or invest depends on how much money coming in you have. Personally I like to save most of my money and invest a little in bitcoin. I think bitcoin could be a decent investment in the long run so I plan to hold for a couple of years at least but if bitcoin doesn't really go where I want it to or fails then I'll still have my savings.

I am also saving at this point, even when it gives me barely a decent return. Currently 2.20% anually. Better than nothing, and it's a very safe and stable manner of growing your money.

I hold my coins because I believe in Bitcoin. And from time to time when the price is quite low, I buy and hold, and if the time is right I sell them again. Extra profit  Smiley


So that means you are just wait for the right time to sell right? So how about if the right time is more than a week? Do you still wait it then sell? That is a real problem if you just buying and the price keep dropping? What do you suggest for the time like this?
He means that right time if you really want to earn a profit you should wait that is the really business. Be patient so that you can wait for a day or a week. Don't rush your coins to sell theres a time that it price will high.

But dont you think a week of waiting is kind of boring? I guess you can't do nothing with all of your bitcoin stuck at exchange and I mean how if the price keep on dropping what can you suggest for us to do? Is there any minimum target before you sell it or any suggest?
5876  Economy / Economics / Re: 2014 Poll: How many bitcoins do you own? on: May 10, 2015, 05:11:37 PM

Lets say that is true and why some people are still buying bitcoin and where it gone? I think they always buy and I guess it will more than 5 btc but still they poll and said that got below 1? How to all that make sense?

No idea. I was just guessing. Maybe people claim it to look cool and relevant.

I would've thought most exchange buying is just trader bots lining things up for the next move.

Yes its true if you got like 100 bitcoin its look cool but I think you heart must be beat faster scare that if one day the price suddenly go down and you will got nothing. May be they just think like that scare to lose that much so they just convert it into their own currency
5877  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: May 10, 2015, 05:08:35 PM

but if there are an emergency and you need those money, you can't get them because they are locked(if for fixed deposit you mean that) by the bank, also the return per year is very slim

i think it's better to create a business if you want to save money, then just simply invest them, in something that has low risk

for example you could buy things on ebay and sell those at a higher rate somewhere else

i think its better to invest your money 30-40% and save your money 60% to backup if you need anything
because an investment have risk to lose your money.
Have a great risk but have a greater return.But don't worry about your investment you can make a business so that you can take over your loss in investment to your business but don't make a many business that you can't handle so you can avoid deficit on your business.

thats right, i aggre with you.
high risk high return. of course
and you risk tolerance before investing.
yeah. If you want to have a big profit you must to invest, saving is for a person that who wants to buy something or to have a extra cash in case of emergencies.

if want to have big profit you must to invest, but dont forget any high risk too
i think it's better to invest with low risk.

I guess there is no such investment because all investment sure got high risk and the payout is great and if you got some investment that have a low risk the payment sure is very low and its not worth to invest at there
5878  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: May 10, 2015, 11:58:16 AM
I'm not sure if the government is afraid that bitcoin will take over fiat.  You will still need to pay taxes in fiat, which will be a portion of every transaction - sale/income/expense.  Fiat will have a place in the economy because it's what people trust, regardless of its fundamental flaws.

Yes, as long as you need to pay taxes in fiat, there will always be a need for fiat. But think of a country with a huge trade deficit. If Bitcoin becomes an established international currency, they will be happy to accept bitcoins which can then be used to bridge this deficit. If dollars are welcome in places like Argentina, bitcoin will also find a place.
If the bitcoin takes over the fiat money theres no taxes to be pay with the government they would not give to us what they want. Theres a thing that you can't replace in this world. But using bitcoin in a country like philippines its a great help because bitcoin is the largest exchange rate here at the Philippines.

I guess there will be tax no matter fiat or bitcoin, why? If there is no tax to be paid how are they going to developed their country, altough not fully is for our country but still some of them must corurpt some and if this bitcoin larger they must take the full control of it then a new regulation will be made to prevent something happened

tax are overstimated, they don't need all that money from taxes to build their country, the true is that they use taxes for their shitty comfort, and for their dirty intentions, not to mention increase their salary to a not fair level, the thing about building infrastructure with taxes hold only a tiny true, they are using a great % of that money to do something else

this is why taxes are unfair, they are not transparent at all, and with bitcoin i'll expect more taxes evasion for sure


Yes they are using it for their dirty intention because their salary is too low and they expect it too much at the first and they need to get as much as money that they can before they die. But some of government really do the develop things from taxes but there is too many corruptor than the real good people there so they manipulated the lower. Always be like that in this government
5879  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★ FASTBETS ★ A NEW WAY TO GAMBLE ★ on: May 10, 2015, 11:49:36 AM
Yes its true, I can't access to your site too sir. I already change browser still wont work for me. You need to fix it or people wont come play it eventough you always do the giveaway but your site is bad. And please announce it you are doing maintenance it will help people to understand that you are really fixing and make it better to your site
5880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ♥E-Sports Picks : CSGO-DOTA2 on: May 10, 2015, 11:43:26 AM
dota mmr has very little do with picks to be honest.


If it has nothing to do with pick why he bother post it? It will make people saw his prediction like nothing and he can't proof that he is good with pickings plus that he has 0/0/0 stat that make him underestimated by other people
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