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5881  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: 🍀🍀 Bounty kampanje Altcoin – Signature, Telegram 🍀🍀 on: August 13, 2019, 08:10:57 AM
Žao mi je dečki ali na žalost ovo je još uvijek "divlji zapad ", pravno neuređeno područje i zato će se ovakve stvari stalno događati a i vjerujem da ozbiljni investitori nikada ni neće ovdje ulagati dokle god se sve to malo ne uredi.
5882  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: August 13, 2019, 08:05:30 AM
Moj skromni doprinos sigurnosti...lažna promocija crypto investicijskog fonda...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157085.msg52113178#msg52113178

Hvala na informaciji,  dobio si merit 😁
Tko je slijedeći?
5883  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why most people would like to travel around the world? on: August 12, 2019, 09:06:20 AM
It's very simple, because people feel empty, monotony, every day because of daily routine at work,  home etc.
They want to live "full life " and have many great experiences and memories and travel around the world is good way to achieve it.
5884  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Balkanski crypto forum? on: August 12, 2019, 08:57:24 AM
Mislim da je otvaranje novog foruma bespotrebno trosenje energije i vremena. Potpisujem sve sto je Trofo napisao u prvom odgovoru u ovoj temi.

Ako osnovna ideja ostane bitcoin forum i hrvatski jezik onda se potpuno slažem.
Ako je OP promijenio mišljenje i razmišlja o proširenju osnovne ideje,  da forum bude šire tematike a ne samo btc ili crypto i na Engleskom tada,  uz dobru reklamu,  ideja možda i ima šanse da uspije uz malo sreće.
5885  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: August 12, 2019, 08:52:39 AM
Da ne prevodim.
PAZITE .... Hakeri šalju PM i preuzimaju vam nalog !!!

Obavezno Pročitati !


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173531.msg52094372#msg52094372
Evo skupio sam i ja neki Merit, pa da podrzim Danielovu misiju. Dobio si merit. Vidim da ti je taj post bas dobro prosao, po tom pitanju. Drago mi je jer mi se ucinilo da nasi na engleskom delu foruma ne dobijaju bas lako merite.

Hvala Dzeronimo.
Izgleda da mi je ovaj post nekako promakao,  ne znam kako,  možda zato što sam na godišnjem i na moru pa mi je koncentracija malo pala 😂😂
U svakom slučaju imaš merit i od mene.
5886  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: August 12, 2019, 08:48:29 AM
Odavno je nismo pominjali, pa da podsetim sve na "globalnu" verziju ove nase teme. Dobro postove koji nisu dobili merite mozete predloziti i ovde https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0. Rezultati mogu biti mnogo bolji nego na lokalnoj temi.
S obzirom da je nasa tema starija, mozemo da ih tuzimo za plagiranje Grin

Ha ha da mogli bi ih optužiti za "krađu ideje " 😁
Inače,  ta je tema dobra ako pišete na Engleskom a ako ne još uvijek vam je ovaj naš topic najbolja opcija.
5887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019 on: August 12, 2019, 08:43:25 AM
It seems that Serbia lost Teodosic,  their main player, for this world cup.
They felt that they even have chance to beat american national Team but now their chances are no so big.
5888  Other / Off-topic / Re: Jeffrey Epstein on: August 11, 2019, 11:44:25 AM
What is most unfortunate here is that victims will not receive justice and experience satisfaction.
He saved himself and the victims will continue to suffer every day.
5889  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Crypto Becoming More Accepted? on: August 11, 2019, 11:41:24 AM
I think yes, there are more store now open to accept crypto, but its not a significant improvement for btc, but at least the growth is not stagnant, now the acceptance is rely on the government, if the government agree to adopt I think the acceptance will be really fast

I think no reason why government shouldn't agree to adopt crypto.
More money and transactions means more taxes and more taxes means more more for them Smiley
5890  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: this is what every country will do on: August 11, 2019, 11:38:08 AM
Lithuania is preparing new rules to govern cryptocurrency transactions, requiring businesses to prove the identity of clients, local daily news outlet Delfi reported on June 12.

As part of its obligations to impose European Union anti-money laundering (AML) regulations, Lithuania’s finance ministry will seek to completely formalize crypto-based exchange operations.

Parliament approved the move during a sitting on Wednesday, Delfi says, while a time frame remains uncertain for implementation.

Once the rules come into effect, any transactions worth over €1,000 ($1,127) involving cryptocurrency — be it into or out of fiat or from one cryptocurrency to another — will face stringent reporting requirements.

Exchanges or similar businesses will have to gather identity information about the buyer, while large operations over €15,000 ($16,919) will oblige them to inform Lithuania’s Financial Crime Investigation Service.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/lithuania-to-regulate-cryptocurrency-exchange-sector-with-obligatory-id-checks

We already have such rules in Croatia last a few years but for amounts above 1 000 euros (7500 kuna).
Just a few weeks ago Croatian post office started pilot project- crypto exchange.
ID will be required for each transaction, buying or selling crypto and fee will be 4 %.

5891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 11, 2019, 11:12:02 AM
Sad news for Sane & Man City, I don’t like to see that kind of injury to any player. He potentially might not be the same player when be comes back, ACL tear is a terrible injury. I wish him the best in his recovery.

Yes that are sad news about the player Sane , but he is young and guess he have the special team for his injury and that they bring him back !
For sure it needs time in this case and i guess that he will be coming back and makes his way .

It is not clear at all why the coach put him in the last game when it was clear he was going to Bayern?
This ruined his career opportunity.
What a pity!

5892  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Jeff Epstein DEAD Commits suicide on: August 10, 2019, 04:53:39 PM
Unfortunately, justice is not satisfied in this case.
His victims, who have suffered a lot, will not get legal satisfaction.
It is strange that something like this could have happened in a strictly guarded US prison.


5893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: August 10, 2019, 04:50:13 PM
Andy Murray returns to the tennis courts after a 7-month break due to injury, at the Cincinnati Tournament.
Great news for all tennis fans.

Really great news, let's hope he is finished with his hip problems and can continue to play tennis on high level. He actually played some tennis in past months (double matches) and probably trained quite a lot so I guess more correctly would be to say "Andy Murray returns on ATP singles tournament in Cinci"  Wink

Now when we are on injury subject I have to mention Del Potro, who is one of my favorite players and constantly plagued by wrist injuries. Hopefully, he will get back on tour as well.

Yes, I also like Del Potro.
Great player, with many great matches in his career.
I will never forget his match in Zagreb, in the Davis Cup final, when he helped his national team to win.
It will be great also to see him back, like Murray.

5894  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin so valuable just because it was first? on: August 10, 2019, 01:01:41 PM
Well, look at examples of big and famous companies such as Apple, Microsoft etc.
Being the first to develop a new product, they have gained market advantage.
Also, many people first hear from mainstream media about bitcoin, so bitcoin became their ''entry point'' for crypto market.

5895  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Croatian post office now offer crypto exchange on: August 10, 2019, 12:56:32 PM
No problem, happy to help Smiley
Any way, more details about this service you can find at company website: https://electrocoin.hr/en
or you can contact them directly by email: info@electrocoin.hr.
5896  Other / Meta / Re: Does this post deserve 10 merit? on: August 10, 2019, 12:49:12 PM
I think it's very difficult to prove merit abuse.
I'm merit source but I never gave so much merits for one single post.
I always try to give merit for good quality posts, constructive posts which can benefit others.
But, it's me and others have other ways how to give merits, so it's difficult to judge here.
It's not against the rules to give so much merit for one post unless it's some kind of manipulation.
5897  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez na bitcoin i kriptovalute 2018-2019 on: August 10, 2019, 12:41:55 PM
Nameće se drugo pitanje a to je što ako nikada ne dođe do konverzije BTC-a u fiat već se on troši kao sredstvo plaćanja, da li itko može tražiti porijeklo samog BTC-a kao takvog na isti način kao što se traži porijeklo fiat novca?

Zakon koristi riječ "otuđivanje" koja u principu znači "imao si BTC i sad ga više nemaš", a kako ga točno nemaš, jesi li ga prodao ili kupio nešto za njega, potpuno je svejedno. Dakle, ako kupiš nešto za BTC, plaćaš porez isto kao i da si ga prodao za fiat i onda za taj fiat nešto kupio.

Ovo mi baš nije sasvim logično.
Jasno mi je da kada se recimo bavim trejdanjem moram voditi FIFO evidenciju i u trenutku kada razmjenim crypto u fiat, plaćam porez na dobit (ili ne plaćam ako crypto dovoljno dugo držim), sukladno mišljenju porezne, kojeg si ti već objavio i objasnio.
No, kada ja direktno nešto kupim, recimo neki program ili neki drugi digitalni proizvod od nekoga, recimo iz Australije, za bitcoin sa stajališta porezne nije se dogodilo ništa, jer za njih bitcoin nije zakonito sredstvo plaćanja u RH i po tome bi bilo isto kao da mi je čovjek iz Australije to što prodaje- poklonio ili da sam mu dao tokene iz neke igrice itd.
Zapravo, ako do tog bitcoina nisam došao na način da sam investirao fiat u crypto, već na drugi način, recimo kroz signature kampanju ovdje na forumu, na koji bih način ja taj bitcoin uopće mogao dokazati poreznoj, da ga imam i da pripada meni ? Smiley
I zašto bih to uopće radio, na kraju krajeva, jer porezna i tako ne može doći do tih podataka?

5898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: August 10, 2019, 12:29:29 PM
Andy Murray returns to the tennis courts after a 7-month break due to injury, at the Cincinnati Tournament.
Great news for all tennis fans.
 
5899  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez na bitcoin i kriptovalute 2018-2019 on: August 09, 2019, 04:09:59 PM
Ja uopce ne kuzim placanje poreza. Uopce!

Stoga par hipotetskih pitanja:

netko je 2014 rijesio BTC blok i zaradio 25 BTC

izmednju 2014 i sada razmjenio 25 BTC u sve moguce crypto-valute. neke su cak sada i mrtve Cheesy
uglavnom, nikakva evidencija nije vodjena
FIFO??? kako da ne!

ugl. kroz vrijeme povukao je novce na njemacki, engleski, hrvatski bankovni racun.

na kraju krajeva sada ima previse razlicitih koina, koji zajedno daju veci iznos nego sto 25 BTC sada kosta.

recimo da ove godine BTC skoci na 25k € on u tom trenutku mijenja sve koine u eure.
all in !

covjek izlazi van sa 750 000 € i nista ga vise ne zanima!

porezna dolazi na vrata i trazi pojasnjenje odakle novac dolazi.

covjek kaze da je jucer pao sa ljestava na glavu i zaboravio je odakle je novac dosao.

sta porezna u tom trenutku moze zakonski napraviti?

1. da li mu mogu novac oduzeti ? i na koliko dugo ?



Nisam htio komentirati cijeli tvoj post jer je predugačak, ali sambo ukratko....

Mogu mu oduzeti trajno što je i logično pa ako baš hočeš i ispravno. Nije moralno jer nisu oni ti koji su ulagali i kupovali opremu i postavili sustav na noge ali eto sada pitaju za račun  Grin
Koliko sam shvatio to se po Italiji radi za neke druge radnje gdje ljudi ne mogu dokazati porijeklo novca za koje je kupljena vila ili sportski auto - karikiram sada da se stekne dojam kada se takve stvari rade i o kakvim se iznosima radi.

Ovakve izjave da će se netko praviti da je pao na glavu  Cheesy to tako ne ide, novac bude blokiran dođe dopis gdje se osoba treba javiti i nakon toga krenu provjere, oni ne trebaju dokazivati ništa, vlasnik novca je taj koji dokazuje i ako ne uspije novac se trajno oduzima. Nekretnine i pokretnine se pljene i postaju vlasništvo države, ono što je od interesa ostaje a što nije daje se na javne dražbe.

Nameće se drugo pitanje a to je što ako nikada ne dođe do konverzije BTC-a u fiat već se on troši kao sredstvo plaćanja, da li itko može tražiti porijeklo samog BTC-a kao takvog na isti način kao što se traži porijeklo fiat novca?





Iskreno, ne vidim kako bi to bilo moguće zbog same prirode crypta, koji je anoniman.
Naravno, mnoge mjenjačnice imaju KYC ali za veće iznose, pa ako je korisnik ''pametan'' i podiže manje iznose, ne mora dokazivati svoj identitet.
Ako kupuješ neke manje vrijedne stvari bitcoinom ili drugom crypti valutom, ne vidim tu nikakav problem jer po onome što do sada znamo, porez se plaća na kune, kada se jednom napravi exchange crypto- fiat.
Naravno, ako jednom kupiš kuću ili auto bitcoinom, a nemaš redovne prihode koji to pokrivaju, doći ćeš pod ''radar porezne'' ali to je već hipotetska situacija.
Obični korisnici i male transakcije, tu za sada ne vidim nikakav problem.
Bit je da crypo nije sredstvo plaćanja u RH (službeno) i tu ti nema tko istraživati bilo što.

5900  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Orvels "1984" closer than ever? on: August 09, 2019, 04:03:07 PM
Orvels "1984" is my favorite book.
So, are we closer to Orvels "1984"?
I believe that we already live in Orvels "1984".
''Big brother'' who sees everything and knows everything, sounds familiar?
State propaganda deciding what the public will know and what they will not, sounds familiar?
The truth is twisted and manipulated so that people no longer know what to believe, sounds familiar?
Populists who lead people into a better future and fight against the enemies of the people, sounds familiar?
Trump, Putin, China, North Korea tc.


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