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5901  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: May 18, 2017, 01:51:02 AM

@BADecker believes in God AND Donald Trump!

What an Oxy-moron!

Wait...

You mean the two are not synonyms?

5902  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 18, 2017, 01:49:55 AM
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  Well on a very practical level most non Muslims simply have poor hygiene, due to not cleaning up well after going to toilet, not doing spiritual purification, sexual promiscuity... Muslims may have these issues also but not practicing Muslims who have sincere belief. Another reason Muslims prefer the company of other Muslims usually

Thank you for revealing your broad ignorance and ridiculous prejudices.

    Umm well really everyone is ignorant on certain experiences, I do have quite a bit of background since I spent most of my life as a non Muslim, then traveled to about a dozen or so countries with large native populations of Muslims, then studied Islam for about 7 years before adopting it myself... and now I have been practicong myself for 6 years. But again you say insulting and inflammatory things without actually examining the facts.
Anyone can read the bolded sections and decide for themselves who is insulting and inflammatory without actually examining the facts.

Frankly you sound to me as very naive, egotistical and agenda driven. Which is fine, except it isn't a way to increase understanding of matters.
5903  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Murdered Seth Rich was the DNC leaker Not Russia on: May 17, 2017, 11:32:56 PM
....Seth Rich, oh somebody did that shit. You don't get mugged in DC with a wallet intact. But the Clintons? I see a reach to attribute this to her. See an overzealous gov agent capping him, the FBI in the preliminary throes of its Trump investigation (becuase this was going on even before he was elected). People aren't stupid. The leak was illegal, would have been much better to make him a whipping boy. Would have painted RNC collusion against the DNC, would have sold the public on a DNC vote. And the emails/info was already passed. Killing him again didn't 'advance the agenda' so to speak.

I see an article using sourced rumors to perpetuate a long running theme: Satanic, kid fucking Clintons. I certainly believe Bill has had a few young girls, but systemic pedophilia for both him and his wife, no. Also, they are Christian. Hillary might have even been raised Evangelical, I think I read.
Many sociopaths and psychopaths attend church routinely, and some even run churches.

Try to look at a bigger picture. Like I said, dead people seem to have been cropping up around the Clintons, well, since the 1980s.....  There's no need to exaggerate or goal shift the matter into ridiculous stuff like pedophilia and Satanics.
5904  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump revealed highly classified information to Russia on: May 17, 2017, 11:27:10 PM

Just a couple comments. Your favorite ex Prez bows to Saudi kings. Read into that whatever you want. He eats pork, so he's not a very good Muslim.

Obaby was highly unpopular with large segments of the population.
Now Trump appears to be unpopular. So what?

What matters is that I said the accusations were fucking nuts, and you responded with a rant on five unrelated issues such as popularity? Get real.

*it's cuz he's Christian.

You said, he the COF so he gets to discuss what he wants. I said, thats fine, but you can't discuss things that would compromise your allies, as that is kinda like, you know, helping the enemy. ...
But you don't know that happened. You don't even know what was discussed. That's what makes the heaping of negativity on these events fucking nuts.

What's happening is you start with a negative opinion of Trump, then spin an event to create more negativity on Trump. But that's no more than making things up.

What's dangerous is not the secrets discussed between leaders of major nations, but the leaking of such conversations to the public by persons unknown with agendas and motives unknown.
5905  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Murdered Seth Rich was the DNC leaker Not Russia on: May 17, 2017, 07:10:35 PM
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"Even if tomorrow, an email was found, it is not a high enough bar of evidence to prove any interactions as emails can be altered and we've seen that those interested in pushing conspiracies will stop at nothing to do so," Bauman said. "We are a family who is committed to facts, not fake evidence that surfaces every few months to fill the void and distract law enforcement and the general public from finding Seth's murderers."[/b]

But, unofficially a federal investigator (according to Fox) has said emails exist, but the investigation is stalled. We will see, but I'm thinking this one might be bunk. If it is true and he did get wrapped up in some shit, it will get buried in the Trumpian news cycle.

Emails can be altered? Bauman isn't very familiar with computer forensics.  

Buried in the Trumpian news cycle? You mean some people wouldn't like it to be proved that the LEAK was a DNC staffer who was murdered, and not Russia?

What exactly do you wish to happen on this?

Oh, I give few fucks. I hate that the young man perished, I hate to see anyone suffer. But maybe we have more pressing concerns at the moment, and his family is asking for privacy. Just because you ask doesn't mean you get, but respect for the dead and all that jazz. I actually think there is something to this, it just won't see the light, esp in this 'Trumpian news cycle'. Let me explain.

Go to any major new source. not the political section, the general us news. See Trump? Exactly. Jesus could return right now and I think people would still be talking about Comey.

Think of the implications. The gov killed him, that's the most obviously motivated actor. You think that's going to get resolved anytime soon? Hold your breath. Trump will be in jail before this is a msm talking point again. Much as y'all hate the msm, that's Mammon, in all its substance. More the mouthpiece of the beast, but that another convo. You can't deny Mammon, you can only adapt. We are creatures of substance. Acknowledge the world you live in, it's corrupt to shit.

Cool to be paranoid, but be real.

The murders seem to swirl around the Clintons. (I'd like to blame some of them on Obama lol), but they really do seem to be around the Clintons. I think it's fair to say a lot of people would disagree with "the gov killed him," because this goes back to when Bill Clinton was president and back beyond that, to when he was Governor.

Three in one month -

http://yournewswire.com/three-anti-clinton-officials-found-dead-in-one-month/

This is all real. I'm not really sure what's going on, but it's been one of those "where there's smoke there's fire" kind of things. If Trump has kicked the Clintons out of the power systems he's done everybody a favor.

5906  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Murdered Seth Rich was the DNC leaker Not Russia on: May 17, 2017, 05:26:03 PM
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"Even if tomorrow, an email was found, it is not a high enough bar of evidence to prove any interactions as emails can be altered and we've seen that those interested in pushing conspiracies will stop at nothing to do so," Bauman said. "We are a family who is committed to facts, not fake evidence that surfaces every few months to fill the void and distract law enforcement and the general public from finding Seth's murderers."[/b]

But, unofficially a federal investigator (according to Fox) has said emails exist, but the investigation is stalled. We will see, but I'm thinking this one might be bunk. If it is true and he did get wrapped up in some shit, it will get buried in the Trumpian news cycle.

Emails can be altered? Bauman isn't very familiar with computer forensics. 

Buried in the Trumpian news cycle? You mean some people wouldn't like it to be proved that the LEAK was a DNC staffer who was murdered, and not Russia?

What exactly do you wish to happen on this?
5907  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: May 17, 2017, 05:21:01 PM
~~~snip ~~



I am not so sure about this. You will find that Westerners, discussing in these threads, almost always cite from the Koran and not the Hadiths. In doing this they certainly can show an evil and cruel side to Islam. Might it be that  you simply pick verses and sections that are more humanistic?

Note that Christians have an accepted practice of doing this, routinely ignoring nonsensical cruel sections of the Old Testament. However Christians have clear guidance, in that they have the Old, and the New testaments.
did you even read what i wrote Huh you can not find cruelty in the SOURCE of Islam namely the HOLY QURAN .......

all the westerners you mentioned are reading the Quran with Hadiths , they think without hadits the Quran is not complete ( not they were saying this , but indirect they beleave this). they most of the time citating from the Hadiths.

i challenge everyone who read this , to come with an evil ( or agains humanity or any living thing ) verses from the Quran.......

btw the Christianety are worng also with judgement day , because they saying Jesus will come and will fight the at the Armagaddon..... , Jesus is Love he will never fight......

Yes, I read what you wrote, and I understand your challenge.

This kaffir seems to recollect a moment when Mr. Jesus got a bit riled up, and threw the merchants out of the temple. In modern language, he used physical force and assaulted them. Not totally without violence, right?

As an atheist, but one who does understand these concepts, I can assure you that some fundamentalist Christians read too much and too literally the wild rant called "Revelations." That section can be disregarded, frankly.
5908  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 17, 2017, 05:13:05 PM
Well on a very practical level most non Muslims simply have poor hygiene, due to not cleaning up well after going to toilet, not doing spiritual purification, sexual promiscuity... Muslims may have these issues also but not practicing Muslims who have sincere belief. Another reason Muslims prefer the company of other Muslims usually

Islam is a religion which originated in the Arabian desert, where there is a severe shortage of water. That is one of the reasons why Muslims use stones to wipe their asses after taking shit. But they should have changed this rule, at least for those Muslims who live outside the desert.
Meanwhile, Semaforo, a Muslim who is certain he is better than you, proudly announces that Muslims (who have sincere belief) have great hygiene.

Are new stones used for each new dump?
5909  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump revealed highly classified information to Russia on: May 17, 2017, 02:26:30 PM
Move on please people, fake or not fake he didn't give Russians the nuclear launch codes of USA just a few intell about some ISIS related stuff.

Don't make a mountain out of a pebble.

Let Trump be, soon he will surrender the country to the north Korean leader after a BJ in the white house.Smiley

The media is using each and every opportunity it gets to tarnish Trump. What they are failing to realize is the fact that their actions are having the exact opposite of the desired effect. The number of people who trust the mainstream media is getting smaller every day.
Are you sure about that? Give me an alternative source of information. Who would not say, but the news we learn only from the media.You may not trust one or more media, but other information source you have. Trump revealed the secret or not ....

Yes, you can be sure about it. You don't need an "alternative source," but if you want something, maybe...

drudgereport.com
instapundit.com

Basically, these accusations are fucking nuts. Of course the Commander in Chief of the country can discuss classified data with other countries' leaders. That's what he should do. He makes deals with them, uses data to advise them on bad shit coming down, maybe in their neighborhood. They reciprocate.

You don't need an "alternative source." Just need to think through the events being described, then see there's nothing there that is negative for Trump.

Nothing at all.

These media jerk offs are grasping at straws.

I concur, it is his job, but he also has to do said job well. He can tell all the classified Intel he wants, but it might be stupid to say, compromise ongoing Intel operations concerning Israel, who I'm not a fan of (the GOP lurvs Israel, but to be fair, the DNC does too). It's a baker's job to bake breads and delicious confections; but when the cookies are burnt to shit, and the bread is stale, you may want to look at getting a new Baker. The hilarious part is this is similar to how Obama was treated by Fox during his 8 years, every mundane thing was sensationalized, including the birther shit and the Muslim rumors. We won't even address the extreme right wing media, he was everything from the AntiChrist to a Saudi plant bent on spreading Sharia law through the US. The difference is Trump is highly unpopular, as the legitimacy of his office is in question. Also, he is the literally most unqualified person to be the president, as proven through action. This isn't conjecture folks. I would take Kid Rock, or Bill O'Reilly, over this. The policies would be just as fucked, but we wouldn't look like assholes in the process. Andz, I like Kid Rocks hats. Alot.

Just a couple comments. Your favorite ex Prez bows to Saudi kings. Read into that whatever you want. He eats pork, so he's not a very good Muslim.

Obaby was highly unpopular with large segments of the population.
Now Trump appears to be unpopular. So what?

What matters is that I said the accusations were fucking nuts, and you responded with a rant on five unrelated issues such as popularity? Get real.
5910  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: May 17, 2017, 02:18:39 PM
What is muslems first? Did you try to say muslims ?

Really did not understand.
If we compare most of the most famous religions of the world, then it turns out that Muslims with their Islam are very cruel.
Which one can give an example when time people kill other people. I have not seen all the Muslims, but it seems to me that this is everyone's fault.
Let the Muslims refute this, if they can. Because when they do it falsely, with Takiyya, it seems to be quickly discovered on this forum.


I am a Muslim my ONLY source is the Quran .........
what tells Quran how to be Good Muslim :

1: Do not be rude in speech-  Quran 3:159
2: Restrain Anger - Quran 3:134
3: Be good to others -  Quran 4:36
4: Do not be arrogant - Quran 7:13
5: Speak to people mildly - Quran 20:44
6: Do not ridicule one another - Quran 49:11
7: Do not say a word of disrespect to your parents - Quran 17:23
8: Do not follow anyone blindly - Quran 2:170
9: Do not engage in bribery - Quran 2:188
10: Do not be miserly - Quran 4:37
11: Do not engage in bribery - Quran 2:188
12: Do not break promises - Quran 2:177

there are more, if you want to know more https://themuslimvibe.com/featured/59-examples-of-islamic-etiquette-in-the-holy-quran

It's not that "I want to know more" but I wanted example of Muslim not being cruel/violent. You've done a nice job of showing how a focus on certain passages of the Koran instructs on in such behavior.

the cruelty is not from the Quran , its from the Hadiths, and i find it pity that alot of Muslims are not reading the Quran properly , as is say before they prefer to listen to : Sholars , Imams ect...

next are my OWN OPINION HOW I READ THE QURAN

funny thing is :
ask an Muslim what is your source : they will answer the Holy Quran .....and if you ask how to become an Muslim they will say you must beleave and do the 5 pilars of Islam:
1   Shahada: Faith
2   Salat: Prayer- 5 times a day
3   Zakāt: Charity
4   Sawm: Fasting
5   Hajj: Pilgrimage to Mecca

I read the Quran and i cant find the whole 5 pilars of Islam.....
the pilars i found is ( i put the numbers in bold, orginaly there are no numbers) :
Believed the Messenger in what was revealed to him from his Lord and the believers. 1* All believed in Allah, and 2* His Angels, and 3* His Books, and 4* His Messengers. "Not we make distinction between any of His And they said, "We heard and we obeyed. (Grant) us Your forgiveness our Lord, and to You (is) the return." Quran 2:285

- there is no mentioned of 5 day riyual pray ! but Quran tells you the pray .... so how do you pray ..... do we need some exercise to pray ?? no , you know what Qurans says how to pray an example :
Then when you (have) finished the prayer, then remember Allah standing and sitting and (lying) on your sides. But when you are secure then establish the (regular) prayer. Indeed, the prayer is on the believers prescribed (at) fixed times. Quran 4:103

everybodies has own praying ritual , praying is in being in contact with God / Allah , i dont have to doing some yoga orso to get in contact.  you what the Quran says Also :
And if whatever (is) in the earth of (the) trees (were) pens and the sea, (to) add to it after it seven seas, not would be exhausted (the) Words (of) Allah. Indeed, Allah (is) All-Mighty, All-Wise.Quran 31:27

with other words, there not much rules , the rules in the Quran is enough to follow....

in most of the Muslim countries , it is forbidden to change your Islam religion to an other religion even the penalty is death , but what says the Quran about this
- (There is) no compulsion in the religion..... Quran 2:256

so , do they really Follow the Quran Huh?

there is NOT ONE VERSES about stoning  penalty in the Quran ...... but if you look on the Islamic countries , the penalty for adultry is stoning till death Huh?
 
are they following the Quran Huh?


In the Quran it say that the profet is gonna say ( on the day of judgement) :
"And said the Messenger, "O my Lord! Indeed, my people took this the Quran (as) a forsaken thing." Quran 25:30

you know what this mean ......  Quran will be Abondoned by so called muslims ( like the other books).


My advice to all Muslims Who are reading this ......

Throw the Hadiths away , there is no good from it , read the Holy Quran in your own Language , try to learn the language of the Quran this better, every body who is willing to learn can learn it ( in generally ).  ive got links how to learn (old) arabic, how to imply the gramma .....


hadiths make this religion evil, Hadits made our beloved prophet an :
- warlord
- sexmaniac
- pedophile
- rude....
- ect...

and what says the Quran about our beloved prophet ,
Certainly, is for you in (the) Messenger (of) Allah an excellent example for (one) who has hope (in) Allah and the Day the Last, and remembers Allah much. Quran 33:21


I am not trying to convert you all to Islam, but i get mad about some people who thinks they know what it is being a Muslim ( even some muslims dont know what it is)...... and sinds i reject the hadith i feel strong , i cant find almost all answer of my question in the Quran, no need for other books .....

btw I AM NOT A SHOLAR ORSO, Just a guy who re-discovered his faith with trowing the hadiths away and began read the Quran properly...



I am not so sure about this. You will find that Westerners, discussing in these threads, almost always cite from the Koran and not the Hadiths. In doing this they certainly can show an evil and cruel side to Islam. Might it be that  you simply pick verses and sections that are more humanistic?

Note that Christians have an accepted practice of doing this, routinely ignoring nonsensical cruel sections of the Old Testament. However Christians have clear guidance, in that they have the Old, and the New testaments.

5911  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NASA | A Year in the Life of Earth's CO2 cycle on: May 17, 2017, 02:11:59 PM
An ultra-high-resolution NASA computer model has given scientists a stunning new look at how carbon dioxide in the atmosphere travels around the globe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1SgmFa0r04

This is an awesome video. This kind of innovation will be very useful not only in determining the movement of carbon dioxide on the earths atmosphere but also on how to save the earth from global warming. It could be also be useful in scouting other planets to colonize in the future. This is another breakthrough in science.

Actually, it's practically impossible to gain any useful information from the flat map projection of atmospheric events. It should have been superimposed on a sphere.

Secondly, the project errs in not showing the differentials between the normal movement of ALL GASES in the atmosphere, and that of CO2, if there is any differential at all.
5912  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 17, 2017, 02:07:23 PM
.....

  Well on a very practical level most non Muslims simply have poor hygiene, due to not cleaning up well after going to toilet, not doing spiritual purification, sexual promiscuity... Muslims may have these issues also but not practicing Muslims who have sincere belief. Another reason Muslims prefer the company of other Muslims usually

Thank you for revealing your broad ignorance and ridiculous prejudices.
5913  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: May 17, 2017, 11:39:44 AM
What is muslems first? Did you try to say muslims ?

Really did not understand.
If we compare most of the most famous religions of the world, then it turns out that Muslims with their Islam are very cruel.
Which one can give an example when time people kill other people. I have not seen all the Muslims, but it seems to me that this is everyone's fault.
Let the Muslims refute this, if they can. Because when they do it falsely, with Takiyya, it seems to be quickly discovered on this forum.


I am a Muslim my ONLY source is the Quran .........
what tells Quran how to be Good Muslim :

1: Do not be rude in speech-  Quran 3:159
2: Restrain Anger - Quran 3:134
3: Be good to others -  Quran 4:36
4: Do not be arrogant - Quran 7:13
5: Speak to people mildly - Quran 20:44
6: Do not ridicule one another - Quran 49:11
7: Do not say a word of disrespect to your parents - Quran 17:23
8: Do not follow anyone blindly - Quran 2:170
9: Do not engage in bribery - Quran 2:188
10: Do not be miserly - Quran 4:37
11: Do not engage in bribery - Quran 2:188
12: Do not break promises - Quran 2:177

there are more, if you want to know more https://themuslimvibe.com/featured/59-examples-of-islamic-etiquette-in-the-holy-quran

It's not that "I want to know more" but I wanted example of Muslim not being cruel/violent. You've done a nice job of showing how a focus on certain passages of the Koran instructs on in such behavior.
5914  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 17, 2017, 02:24:17 AM
When there are no extreme terrorist organizations like isis, there will be no reason to hate Muslims. Damn the terror.

There are hundreds of extremist Muslim organizations, but ISIS gets all the publicity today. These organizations go back to the 1970s with their atrocities-designed-to-get-world-media-attention.

It is no different today, and if it wasn't ISIS, it would be another. Islam continually seems to generate these groups. It would seem where ever there is Islam, there are some of them.
5915  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NASA Eyeing Mini Space Station in Lunar Orbit on: May 17, 2017, 02:21:19 AM
The ultimate goal is to turn the moon into a factory for the extraction of minerals, military base and launch pad for spacecraft which will fly to other planets. In any case, our descendants may not see the moon like we used to see her.

The Moon's top five meters of dirt is rich in aluminum, oxygen, titanium, and iron. Together these comprise 60-80% of the weight of a handful of the dirt.

This layer of material could form most of the weight of spacecraft and machinery, and the oxygen would provide 66-85% of the weight of propellant.

One square kilometer's titanium is more than is mined on Earth in an entire year.
5916  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: May 17, 2017, 02:13:32 AM
What is muslems first? Did you try to say muslims ?

Really did not understand.
If we compare most of the most famous religions of the world, then it turns out that Muslims with their Islam are very cruel.
Which one can give an example when time people kill other people. I have not seen all the Muslims, but it seems to me that this is everyone's fault.
Let the Muslims refute this, if they can. Because when they do it falsely, with Takiyya, it seems to be quickly discovered on this forum.

5917  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump revealed highly classified information to Russia on: May 17, 2017, 01:56:14 AM
Move on please people, fake or not fake he didn't give Russians the nuclear launch codes of USA just a few intell about some ISIS related stuff.

Don't make a mountain out of a pebble.

Let Trump be, soon he will surrender the country to the north Korean leader after a BJ in the white house.Smiley

The media is using each and every opportunity it gets to tarnish Trump. What they are failing to realize is the fact that their actions are having the exact opposite of the desired effect. The number of people who trust the mainstream media is getting smaller every day.
Are you sure about that? Give me an alternative source of information. Who would not say, but the news we learn only from the media.You may not trust one or more media, but other information source you have. Trump revealed the secret or not ....

Yes, you can be sure about it. You don't need an "alternative source," but if you want something, maybe...

drudgereport.com
instapundit.com

Basically, these accusations are fucking nuts. Of course the Commander in Chief of the country can discuss classified data with other countries' leaders. That's what he should do. He makes deals with them, uses data to advise them on bad shit coming down, maybe in their neighborhood. They reciprocate.

You don't need an "alternative source." Just need to think through the events being described, then see there's nothing there that is negative for Trump.

Nothing at all.

These media jerk offs are grasping at straws.
5918  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 16, 2017, 01:40:25 AM
Anyone who says that 'Islam hates people' does not properly understand the religion. I have studied a bit upon both Christianity and Islam and I will say that neither religion is very much more violent than another. The main reason why Islam gets such bad press is because of those few radical terrorists out there committing heinous acts to tarnish the name of Islam. I have however met many people in the religion (and once belonged there myself) and I will say that you cannot judge such a massive group of people based upon the actions of a few. This is the same as saying that everyone in the middle east are terrorists.

Well, let me rephrase your assertions. May I?

The main reason why Islam gets such bad press is because of over 30,000 Islamic terror attacks just since 9/11.
5919  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 16, 2017, 01:24:38 AM
The question is certainly interesting, but you do not need to think long to answer it and say about the attitude towards Muslims. It is worthwhile only to look at the news and about the terrorist attacks, and it becomes clear why everyone hates Muslims.
Muslims, though, would have you believe differently. They would have you believe that these terrorists "are not True Muslims" and Muslims are a good and peaceful and loving people.
5920  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people like Trump? on: May 15, 2017, 10:52:00 PM
People don't like losers. People like successful people. This is an example to follow. Trump is pathetic and nothing more. When he against all he was doomed to be a loser. It is his personal tragedy, but it will pay for all Americans.

Trump is the living manifestation of American success. He's been a household name for several decades. He's been out with some of the most gorgeous women of the past few generations. He's been on the cover of a multitude of magazines including Playboy. He's a multimillionaire owning successful businesses, planes, cars buildings and so on. He's also a popular reality TV star, he shaved Vince McMahon's head in WWE, aaand he's now the President of the USA. I guess he's yet to become Pope or some other big religious leader but looks like anything is possible for him.

Where did you see loser in all of that? I just don't get it.

How about the sock puppets and bots just get the hell out?
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