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5921  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 10:23:15 PM
BCH All Time High on Bittrex: $1,311
BCH All Time High on Kraken: $811

Meanwhile bitcoin peaked at $2,900.

Could it be that everybody is holding because:
- we can never be sure how things are going to turn out.
- both blockchains could end-up being equally valuable in their own way.
- most bitcoin owners are not poor peasants looking forward make a few thousand dollars for free.
- nobody uses bitcoin in real life so pure speculation is what drives the price and not market economics.
- holding is life.

And of course, most people are retards and didn't move their coins to Kraken, Bittrex and ViaBTC even though they had weeks to prepare. So we might have yet to see real volume.

 Here we go again, I'm gonna get called a freak and a liar and told I exhibit some weird memory deficit but I distinctly remember the ATH on Kraken being over 3000 BTC.
That means it's closer to $10 million.
5922  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 02:25:53 PM




 Posted it yesterday - somebody was trying to pay $1million USD for 0.001 BCH - guess they must have gotten their ill-conceived wish.
5923  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 01:44:37 PM


 That's hilarious!  I hadn't seen that before.
5924  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 01:40:50 PM
Bittrex and yobit both over $1k for bcc(bch)
What joke is this ?  Roll Eyes

Well, right now about a 15 billions joke.
Soon probably the most expensive joke in history.

 This reminds me of the Auroracoin airdrop.  I mined them for a couple of weeks and when they first hit the exchange I cashed out half of them (which was only 10 coins) for ~$900 worth of Bitcoin.  At the time, since it was largely a pre-mined coin (so many million coins pre-mined for the airdrop on Iceland), it had a market cap of over $1billion which was nearly 3 times the market cap of Litecoin.  As the airdrop approached (March 25th, 2014) the price slid downward to around $10 but a week after the airdrop it was worth just over $2.  It never recovered.
5925  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2017, 01:00:59 PM
BCC is going to same value as BTC? BCC = BTC value soon ?

BCH could go x10 or x100 up. No limit there. At the moment you're allowed only to buy. You can't sell. But price will fall off a cliff once exchanges assign BCH addresses to their customer accounts.


 Maybe I missed something in this discussion but I sold some of my BCH already.  What is hard to do is move BCH to an exchange due to the very slow block generation time and the requirement of a considerably higher number of block confirmations than for Bitcoin by the exchanges.
5926  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2017, 02:21:28 PM
Strange that I can see kraken charts :  https://www.kraken.com/charts#

But I cannot login: Service unavailable..

wtf Kraken

 I grabbed a screen cap of this before it disappeared.



Somebody must be able to log in to do that.  I guess they must also be pretty certain that nobody has any BCH on Kraken yet though because that would have been an easy $1000.

5927  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2017, 02:13:28 PM
LOL  I wish I could log into Kraken!
I would love to sell a tiny fraction of a Bitcoin alt for waaaaay too much money.

5928  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why do people become vegan? on: August 01, 2017, 05:57:08 AM
Alright this is going to be quick and sloppy but that't how you carnivores like it right?

Starting at your biological composition, your teeth are not designed for killing prey, you have no canines or claws. Your jaws can grind horizontally unlike cats and dogs. Humans intestinal tracks are significantly longer with weaker stomach acids to digest fruits and vegetables, while meat eaters are shorter and strong because flesh putrefies with in the body and needs to be cycled thru as quickly as possible. If you take to the theory of evolution and that we evolved from primates than our original diet stemmed from leaves, fruits, and bugs. Occasionally some primates like chimps can be seen hunting other monkeys but its rare and constitutes the smallest percentage of their diet. With that said the meat that they ate was wild and clean. What were fed are animals that are being tortured their entire lives causing their genetic make up to be altered. Distressed cells appear different under a micro scope. They are pumped with antibiotics and fed feed that has been soaked in pesticides and drank tap water with its plethora of contaminates. These things on their own would probably never yield too hard of a negative result in your life but when they're stacked to together they become a formula for cancer, lethargy, brain fog, chronic fatigue, hormonal imbalance, and more. As for dairy human beings are the only creatures on the planet that drink breast milk for their entire life and its not even the milk of their own species! To step back and reflect upon that it's really quite an appalling act. Yet milk/cheese is nearly in every thing we eat. How could this be? A dairy farmer makes 7x as much money as a beef farmer. What kind of farmer would you like to be? Dairy right? So now we have to push the product and this is exactly what they did in the early 20th century. They worked with big marketing gurus at the time and lobbied the government to get in on the action. Now I bet you cant make it thru a normal day with out at least one dairy blatantly or covertly in everyone of your meals.   
All source of energy comes from the sun, the plants collect that energy directly, herbivores collect it thru the plant, the next collects it thru the meat of that animal, and the next one after that. All the while the original sun energy gets diluted and contaminated with bad fats, cholesterol, parasites, and more. Skip the middle men and feed as close to the source as possible.


( I can go on for days  )
 

 If you are going to tout evolution as part of a reasoned argument for becoming vegan while ignoring the human ability to kill and butcher our prey with tools rather than rely on our teeth to do the dirty work, your conclusions will have an element of bias and would likely be considered invalid by any discerning reader.   Meat is nutrient dense food for humans and once it is processed all we need do is grind it up a little more with our teeth and in this way, our lower-acid digestive tracts can make relatively short work of the meat. As you probably know given your discussion on the relative lengths of the digestive tracts, meat is much easier to digest than most plant material.
 The rest of your argument appears to be more politically motivated and I would agree that this is probably a more compelling reason for one to venture into Veganism but you will run into the same issues you have mentioned as far as pesticides, contaminants, big marketing gurus and genetic modification (I know you said altered) while pursuing this lifestyle as well.  In order to avoid some of these pitfalls, you have to look specifically for organic foods which come at a premium price and are not necessarily pesticide free (unless explicitly stated) as many pesticides are still valid for use on organically certified crops and certified organic usually-but-not-always means GMO-free.  Many people have been convinced that organic is "good" and therefore are willing to pay much more money for organic foods but don't you think this was marketed in the same way as the products from the dairy farmer you decry in your argument?  There are scholarly articles that indicate there is no overall benefit to organically grown food and that they might be a detriment to humanity as the crop yields are lower and costs of production are higher than those of conventional farming.
  Lastly, I would like to mention that energy can't be created or destroyed and I'm pretty sure it can't be diluted or contaminated with... stuff?  Humans can't directly use the energy of the sun to power our bodies.  Perhaps in the future it will be a reality but for now, we need to get the energy indirectly from our available surroundings as impure, unethical and unsavoury as that may be.





Here are the companies that sponsor the organizations that are suppose to heal and prevent . Bring on your "scholarly" articles and lets see who sponsors them. 
"I'm pretty sure it can't be diluted or contaminated with... stuff? "  ok put a drop of cyanide in your water every day and tell me how that works out for you. 

 Clearly, you wrote about the original sun energy being diluted and contaminated by stuff; a drop of cyanide in the water is an entirely different argument but since you brought it up, cyanide occurs naturally and concentrates in certain nut meats and seeds.
  Organic Almonds Recalled From Whole Foods For Containing High Levels Of Cyanide  <--it doesn't get much more direct from the sun than that.
 
Also,
 Little evidence of health benefits from organic foods, study finds <-- Stanford University
Are organic foods better for my health? <---Dieticians Canada (a 6000 member organization of professional dieticians)
A Review of the Nutrition Claims Made by Proponents of Organic Food <-- Joeseph D Rosen, PhD Rutgers University: Food chemistry; analytical toxicology; mass spectrometry
 The most recent pro-organic food studies center around pesticide residue rather than nutritional content and I'll state again that organic doesn't mean pesticide-free; it only means synthetic pesticide free.  I just make sure to wash my non-organic fruits and veggies before consuming.
5929  Economy / Auctions / Re: Four Gekkoscience 60W/110GH prototype pod miners, for a good cause on: August 01, 2017, 05:24:50 AM


 I can't measure the output of the brick but based on the specs here for the 2-Pac I was thinking it should be around 4 X 10.11 watts @ 250MHz plus the two little fans on the heatsink (probably 2.5 watts for the two of those) - I was thinking 45 watts.  Just powering up the pod, I'm seeing about 8 watts at the wall then when the hashing starts it ramps up to 62.5 watts at the wall.  I know sidehack said it should run 110 GH/s on the 5A brick but when I saw the draw at the wall, I got a little concerned... maybe you're right and it's just an efficiency issue.  Guess I'll tune it down a bit until I get a better brick.  Thanks!



Got a pix of the setup?

 I didn't but I took one to show it off Wink



 Personally I think the "tacked on" buck adds character.  It gives it that homemade look Wink  Also, it appears you used high-quality parts.

5930  Economy / Lending / Re: Looking for 0.5 BTC Loan on: July 31, 2017, 06:51:38 PM

i offer loans but no esrow from my side. Paypal accepted only.

you will get your coins 1-2 after payment.

 If you don't use escrow, then I guess you're good to go.  Send him the 0.5 Bitcoins and you'll get your Paypal 1-2-3 after his ship comes in (theoretically).

5931  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for someone in Amsterdam on: July 31, 2017, 05:59:15 PM
I tried to help this person by going to the location, where I was told that the bag is not there.

Requested that she contact the person that told her about the bag, but she grew unresponsive.

I let the issue slide, as I have no real obligation to help her.


 That's too bad.  It was nice of you to try to help though.
5932  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why do people become vegan? on: July 31, 2017, 05:56:04 PM
Alright this is going to be quick and sloppy but that't how you carnivores like it right?

Starting at your biological composition, your teeth are not designed for killing prey, you have no canines or claws. Your jaws can grind horizontally unlike cats and dogs. Humans intestinal tracks are significantly longer with weaker stomach acids to digest fruits and vegetables, while meat eaters are shorter and strong because flesh putrefies with in the body and needs to be cycled thru as quickly as possible. If you take to the theory of evolution and that we evolved from primates than our original diet stemmed from leaves, fruits, and bugs. Occasionally some primates like chimps can be seen hunting other monkeys but its rare and constitutes the smallest percentage of their diet. With that said the meat that they ate was wild and clean. What were fed are animals that are being tortured their entire lives causing their genetic make up to be altered. Distressed cells appear different under a micro scope. They are pumped with antibiotics and fed feed that has been soaked in pesticides and drank tap water with its plethora of contaminates. These things on their own would probably never yield too hard of a negative result in your life but when they're stacked to together they become a formula for cancer, lethargy, brain fog, chronic fatigue, hormonal imbalance, and more. As for dairy human beings are the only creatures on the planet that drink breast milk for their entire life and its not even the milk of their own species! To step back and reflect upon that it's really quite an appalling act. Yet milk/cheese is nearly in every thing we eat. How could this be? A dairy farmer makes 7x as much money as a beef farmer. What kind of farmer would you like to be? Dairy right? So now we have to push the product and this is exactly what they did in the early 20th century. They worked with big marketing gurus at the time and lobbied the government to get in on the action. Now I bet you cant make it thru a normal day with out at least one dairy blatantly or covertly in everyone of your meals.  
All source of energy comes from the sun, the plants collect that energy directly, herbivores collect it thru the plant, the next collects it thru the meat of that animal, and the next one after that. All the while the original sun energy gets diluted and contaminated with bad fats, cholesterol, parasites, and more. Skip the middle men and feed as close to the source as possible.


( I can go on for days  )
  

 If you are going to tout evolution as part of a reasoned argument for becoming vegan while ignoring the human ability to kill and butcher our prey with tools rather than rely on our teeth to do the dirty work, your conclusions will have an element of bias and would likely be considered invalid by any discerning reader.   Meat is nutrient dense food for humans and once it is processed all we need do is grind it up a little more with our teeth and in this way, our lower-acid digestive tracts can make relatively short work of the meat. As you probably know given your discussion on the relative lengths of the digestive tracts, meat is much easier to digest than most plant material.
 The rest of your argument appears to be more politically motivated and I would agree that this is probably a more compelling reason for one to venture into Veganism but you will run into the same issues you have mentioned as far as pesticides, contaminants, big marketing gurus and genetic modification (I know you said altered) while pursuing this lifestyle as well.  In order to avoid some of these pitfalls, you have to look specifically for organic foods which come at a premium price and are not necessarily pesticide free (unless explicitly stated) as many pesticides are still valid for use on organically certified crops and certified organic usually-but-not-always means GMO-free.  Many people have been convinced that organic is "good" and therefore are willing to pay much more money for organic foods but don't you think this was marketed in the same way as the products from the dairy farmer you decry in your argument?  There are scholarly articles that indicate there is no overall benefit to organically grown food and that they might be a detriment to humanity as the crop yields are lower and costs of production are higher than those of conventional farming.
  Lastly, I would like to mention that energy can't be created or destroyed and I'm pretty sure it can't be diluted or contaminated with... stuff?  Humans can't directly use the energy of the sun to power our bodies.  Perhaps in the future it will be a reality but for now, we need to get the energy indirectly from our available surroundings as impure, unethical and unsavoury as that may be.
5933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: After Aug. 1st - Will Bitcoin Die? Will Bitcoin Crash? Will BCC Surpass BTC??? on: July 31, 2017, 07:48:08 AM
“Bitcoin may die!”, “Bitcoin will crash!”, “Bitcoin may fork!”, “BIP148 vs BIP91”, “August 1 is D-day!“ are some of the confusing articles and comments you might have seen or heard in recent weeks. In this article, I’ll try to unpack what is probably (and probably not) happening to your Bitcoin in the coming weeks and what’s behind the latest headlines.

For many years, the Bitcoin community has been locked in what is known as the great scaling debate. What might seem like a simple problem (Bitcoin is becoming slower and more expensive to use), with a simple solution (increase the block size or implement another way to transfer Bitcoin altogether) quickly becomes complicated, technical and even political.

What is your thoughts on this issue???

 My thoughts are that you must be Werner van Rooyen or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

https://www.luno.com/blog/en/post/scaling-bitcoin-forks-disruptions  < is that you?


5934  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: BLACKOUT WHEN MINING MACHINE RUNNING!!! on: July 31, 2017, 01:24:55 AM
What happens if blackout when mining machine running....this question still in my mind Huh ???and can we turn off miner when its running?Huh(antminer s9)

 If you blackout when running a mining machine, you're doing it wrong. 
5935  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: s5 miner hashing but not getting accepted shares on: July 31, 2017, 01:14:18 AM
Use imgur to post photos.
5936  Economy / Auctions / Re: Four Gekkoscience 60W/110GH prototype pod miners, for a good cause on: July 30, 2017, 01:39:17 AM
... but I'm pulling a little over 65W at-the-wall.  I'm just wondering if the 12V 5000mA brick can handle that type of input power continuously.

Keep a fire extinguisher handy.

Measure the actual output to calculate how loaded the brick actually is. I'm sure that you probably already know this, but as a general rule of thumb running something long-term over 80% of it's rated output is not recommended. Consumer grade stuff even more so.

That you are pulling 65W at the wall may just be an inefficient power supply.


 I can't measure the output of the brick but based on the specs here for the 2-Pac I was thinking it should be around 4 X 10.11 watts @ 250MHz plus the two little fans on the heatsink (probably 2.5 watts for the two of those) - I was thinking 45 watts.  Just powering up the pod, I'm seeing about 8 watts at the wall then when the hashing starts it ramps up to 62.5 watts at the wall.  I know sidehack said it should run 110 GH/s on the 5A brick but when I saw the draw at the wall, I got a little concerned... maybe you're right and it's just an efficiency issue.  Guess I'll tune it down a bit until I get a better brick.  Thanks!

5937  Economy / Auctions / Re: Four Gekkoscience 60W/110GH prototype pod miners, for a good cause on: July 29, 2017, 09:05:59 PM
I've been playing with my proto-pod and 2-pacs for a couple of days now.  Lots of fun and no profit! (I knew that - going for a lottery win)
I was using a 12V 4000mA power brick with the 5.5mm barrel to alternately power my USB hub and the pod but I never pushed it above 175 MHz for any length of time because I didn't want to brick the brick Wink
Eventually, I dug through my big old box of electronics that I never use anymoretm and I was able to find a 12V 5000mA brick with the right sized barrel plug!  Now I'm able to push the proto-pod to 250 MHz but I'm pulling a little over 65W at-the-wall.  I'm just wondering if the 12V 5000mA brick can handle that type of input power continuously.  I'm unable to find the specs for efficiency on it - it's a FlyPower model PS60IBCAY5000S if that helps (and I already did the google search but found nothing about efficiency).  I plan to order a better brick since they are impossible to find at electronics shops around me but meanwhile I would prefer not to melt anything Wink



 
5938  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 29, 2017, 12:01:04 PM
Roger Ver must be rich as hell, I don't know why he even bothers any more. He should just cash the majority of his crypto holdings in & enjoy life.

 The Bitcoin Jesus' life probably isn't going to improve by retiring from crypto.  I think he enjoys starting up crypto-companies and making them profitable and I'm pretty sure that I personally benefit from the fruits of his labour so from my perspective, more power to him.  

 What exactly do you mean by "enjoy life"?  If you were Roger Ver, how would you enjoy life after cashing in?  Maybe he just needs some better ideas.
5939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does bitcoin goes as it was planned from the very begining? on: July 28, 2017, 01:18:53 PM
What do you think guys about these problems nowdays? Is bitcoin going as it was planned or is everything opposite?
It was planned to be low fee payment system but we had to pay so huge fees in near past, now it's lower and pretty good. But we see coming hard fork on August 1. Bitcoin is used for illegal activities, even bitmixer said that they received 1M btc and there is no doubt that 99% would be for illegal activities. Is it out from it's way? yeah but what will happen in near future? Will we see much worse results?

 You're confusing the claims made by early Bitcoin advocates to promote Bitcoin with a "plan". 
If you read the white paper, you will see that there was no plan for "low payment system"; even if that was in the mind of Satoshi, he didn't include that philosophy in his white paper.
5940  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 26, 2017, 09:25:42 PM
You were able to find an ATM that had only 3% fees or did you purchase using a different method?

I used the ATM nearest to my home. It is a Lamassu operated by Instacoin.

They use dynamic pricing, presumably to balance their inventory of bitcoins and dollars. If they sell more coins than they buy, they raise their buy fees and lower their sell fees and vice versa.

That suits me just fine as it's precisely when there's a panic dump that I want to buy the dip.

 Thanks for the info!  I went with a buddy of mine to use an ATM in Scarborough one time (there was one in the Scarborough town center); they wanted 10% and I wasn't about to pay that much.  That one disappeared in 2015 and I haven't done any research since then.  I see now after you piqued my interest with the possibility of low fees that there are now machines much closer to me with lower fees. Sweet!  I didn't even know they had variable fees.  Field trip!

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