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5941  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ~~ Invest your bitcoins ~~ One and only safe way ~~ on: August 12, 2014, 05:39:09 AM
The post I was replying to appears to have been deleted.

That is why you should use the quote button. 

Great you put up a dead topic. Next time please see the dates first b4 replying
So? 

I think the guy you were replying to was a regular at prcdice until about a week ago when he lost all his coins there. Seems like he hasn't been back since, or logged on to these forums.
5942  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 2000+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: August 12, 2014, 01:24:48 AM
Sick humblebrag doog Tongue

Except just minutes before I had divested 61 BTC and lost 11 of it. This was me trying to reinvest what I had left...



Back to 0.0000 profit on my main account.
5943  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 2000+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: August 12, 2014, 12:26:21 AM
I just got an ugly error message when trying to do an 'invest all':

5944  Economy / Gambling / Re: {INCOMEDICE} BIG HOTWALLET - AMAZING FEATURES - PROVABLY FAIR- NEW AND GROWING on: August 12, 2014, 12:11:37 AM
This is a clone of the old prime dice script which was being sold without stunna permission.

It's not even a very good clone.

I tried betting the dust that the faucet gave me and got this error message:



Only negative bets are allowed? What a piece of trash. Smiley
5945  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBet.Net | 1% Edge | Provably Fair | Fastest Bets In The Market |Free 0.0001 on: August 12, 2014, 12:07:51 AM
how do I open a ticket?

Not sure. I heard a rumour that you have to say "how do I open a ticket?" eight times and it just happens.
5946  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 3 Launched!!!!!!! | Most Popular Bitcoin Game! | 400k+ BTC Wagered | on: August 11, 2014, 11:47:34 PM
If the bet didn't appear under pvplogs please let us know.

I don't know if it did show up there, but it doesn't now.

That page seems to only show games played in the last 2 hours, and as I said I was unable to get onto the site for a day or so after the pvp game that didn't show up.
5947  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 3 Launched!!!!!!! | Most Popular Bitcoin Game! | 400k+ BTC Wagered | on: August 11, 2014, 09:03:58 PM
I've been unable to get PD3 to load for a day or so, but last time it was up I had about 2k satoshis, challenged someone to a 'duel' with them, watched the count-down reach zero, saw it say that the challenge hadn't been accepted, and then the site went down again.

Now it's back up, and my balance was zero. I just used the faucet, so have ~500 satoshis, but as you can see from the bet log, my last roll won more than that:



So I guess the duel happened, even though I was told it didn't.

That might be a bug you need to look into.
5948  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 3 Launched!!!!!!! | Most Popular Bitcoin Game! | 400k+ BTC Wagered | on: August 11, 2014, 07:27:12 PM
Site is up for me, but I haven't been able to log in yet.  Maybe there's like 1million ppl trying to log in at the moment though.

My error messages:

Quote
Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'router' of undefined 195f6d74.vendor.min.js:11
Failed to load resource http://ec2-54-191-162-71.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com/api/login
Failed to load resource http://ec2-54-191-162-71.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com/socket.io/?EIO=2&transport=polling&t=1407784160160-165

That could be part of the problem.

You use cloudflare to hide your IP address from DDoS attackers. If you then show it in error messages you're really not helping yourself!
5949  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 2000+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: August 11, 2014, 05:52:09 PM
Can u please tell me how the chat was done in JD ? Did u use any open source script ?

It was just built into the site, like the betting and everything else. Just a bunch of socket.io messages being passed back and forth.

Something like this:

Quote
send_button.on('click') {
    server.emit('chat', $('#message').html());
}

on('chat', function(details) {
    ...;
});
5950  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 2000+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: August 11, 2014, 05:45:49 PM
I just took a screenshot of the 'high bets' tab before and after reloading the page:



(click to make it bigger)

The left hand side is after reloading; the right hand side is before.

All the 0.1 BTC bets disappeared when I reloaded - so that isn't fixed yet - but more importantly, a 0.2 bet appeared when I reloaded - so some bets are still not making it to the 'high bets' tab until I reload.
5951  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 3 Launched!!!!!!! | Most Popular Bitcoin Game! | 400k+ BTC Wagered | on: August 11, 2014, 04:27:56 PM
Is there any chance for bets like 99.9% and 0.01% ? Smiley

If you go any higher than 98% win chance the house edge becomes higher than 1%

You can offer bets with 98.5% win chance that pay out at 99/98.5 = 1.005076x and keep the 1% edge.

There's nothing special about 98%. At JD you could bet with your chance as high as 98.99% and still have a 1% house edge.
5952  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 2000+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: August 11, 2014, 04:17:04 PM
could DB do a server-side robot roll? I know it's dangerous, couldn't be cancelled, and maybe would mess with "provably fair"... but if I'm REALLY REALLY determined to lose it all - why not?

I've seen the admins discussing it on the chat.

There's no reason why it couldn't be provably fair. Your seed pair (client + server) uniquely determines an infinite sequence of rolls. The server-side robot would just work through them as if you were making the bets manually. You would be able to later run a simulation using the same seeds and should see the exact same outcome. That would be a nice little third party project for someone - an offline bot simulator/verifier. Give it your seeds, starting nonce, configuration (multiply on loss factor, etc.) and check that you got the correct result on the site.
5953  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 2000+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: August 11, 2014, 04:13:57 PM
I also wonder why there is a difference between the coldwallet balance and the amount of invested BTC:
2,358 / 2204

I know there is a hotwallet for instant withdrawals but I donīt think the hotwallet contains as much as 154 BTC  Huh
(and that is only the site bankroll! there are of course also lots of user balances which arenīt invested at the
moment)

At JD we kept a hot wallet for instant withdrawals, an online-but-off-site wallet, and a cold wallet.

The cold wallet is hard to withdraw from, by design, and so it's useful to keep some coins in an intermediate state - not on the site where they are at risk, but not completely cold either.

Maybe DB is using a similar scheme.

At JD user balances usually accounted for roughly 0% of the total coins we were holding. After playing, people usually would either invest their balance or withdraw it.
5954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMS, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Pearl, @Poloniex.com on: August 11, 2014, 07:18:14 AM
Got another lotto block and did not even realize till now  Grin . Just a baby, but I'll take it.



I get quite a lot of only-just-over-0.1 wins, like these two:



Did you vanitygen your *CunNT* address?
5955  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 3 Launched!!!!!!! | Most Popular Bitcoin Game! | 400k+ BTC Wagered | on: August 11, 2014, 07:12:11 AM
dooglus when did you hit "Legendary" status on the board, with the last half of your 5 coins white, and what exactly does that mean? Just noticed it; feel like it must have changed very recently.

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.msg8289520#msg8289520
5956  Economy / Services / Re: [DiceBitco.in] [Make the most out of your sig!] Make coins by simply posting! on: August 11, 2014, 07:09:54 AM
I ranked up.

Do I have to change my signature? And how much do I get paid now? Smiley
5957  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 3 Launched!!!!!!! | Most Popular Bitcoin Game! | 400k+ BTC Wagered | on: August 11, 2014, 06:59:57 AM
dooglus when did you hit "Legendary" status on the board, with the last half of your 5 coins white, and what exactly does that mean? Just noticed it; feel like it must have changed very recently.

I've no idea, but I'm excited that I now get to name my own price for signature campaigns.

That's how it works, right? Wink
5958  Economy / Gambling / Re: DiceBitco.in | BE THE BANK ! | 1% House Edge | 2000+ BTC BANKROLL | INSTANT! on: August 11, 2014, 06:56:44 AM
Something is broken on the Transaction History page. It's showing empty when I open it, when I click on Deposit it's still empty, when I click on Withdraw it shows my withdrawals, but then when I click on Deposit or All it's still showing just the withdrawals.

Try a reload. It seems that when the site is updated server-side, we need to refresh our clients to 'keep up'.
5959  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 3 - RELEASE DATE ANNOUNCED on: August 11, 2014, 06:49:38 AM
I mentioned during beta testing that PD3's system picks high numbers more often than low numbers. Did you decide that didn't need fixing? It's possible that the effect isn't significant enough to matter; I didn't analyse it enough to be sure.

That was fixed like right next day when u told that to dev. Smiley .

Maybe. If so, you also need to update the documentation:



and the sample verification code:

5960  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice 3 - RELEASE DATE ANNOUNCED on: August 11, 2014, 06:45:46 AM
It's not just >99.99 that is affected. *Every* bet is 0.005% harder to win than advertised. It's just that when the bet is advertised as 0.01%, the 0.005% error is half your advertised chance of winning, so it is hugely significant.

What this means is that on average 1 in every 20,000 bets in the history of the site was incorrectly marked as a loss instead of a win.

With 750 million bets on the site, that means that around 37500 bets were settled as losses when they should have been wins.

37500 bets assuming that every bet was made on the 10,000x multiplier.

No, you aren't understanding:

*Every* bet is 0.005% harder to win than advertised

Every bet was unfair, not only the 9,900x multiplier ones.

For example:

To win <49.5 you had to roll <49.495000 to beat the unfair rounding, and so only had a 49.495% chance of actually winning.

Similarly, to win >50.5 you had to roll >= 50.505000 to beat the unfair rounding.

Every bet on the site had a 0.005% smaller than advertised chance of winning.

That means that roughly 0.005% of all bets were unfairly paid as losses when they should have won.

Edit: Due to 0 working fine that means the expected number is actually ~4.

How was 0 working fine?

If you try to roll "<0.01", you had to get <0.005000 for the rounding to give you a 0.00. That again is a 1-in-20k chance.
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