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August 10, 2014, 11:31:03 PM
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DiceBitcoin, first of all, nice job with a site.
wanted to ask, will we be able, in time, to track site's statistics in a way we had with bitcoinproject.net for just-dice?

What was the purpose of bitcoinproject.net for just-dice ? Just giving out the site SQL ?

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August 11, 2014, 12:26:30 AM
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Might as well share my stats.



Awesome site you got here.

If you need a target to aim for, my high score is exactly 37.0000 profit. Smiley

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August 11, 2014, 12:28:55 AM
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DiceBitcoin, first of all, nice job with a site.
wanted to ask, will we be able, in time, to track site's statistics in a way we had with bitcoinproject.net for just-dice?

What was the purpose of bitcoinproject.net for just-dice ? Just giving out the site SQL ?

The guy who ran bitcoinproject pinged Just-Dice (and Doge-Dice) every minute, requesting the current number of bets, profit, bankroll, etc. and offered charts of all that stuff over time. You could zoom in on the time period you were interested in.

I must say charts (whether on-site or third party) are sorely missing from DB at the moment.

I imagine my personal profit chart would be interesting. Smiley Sad

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August 11, 2014, 12:33:17 AM
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let me try Wink

i hope win hahahha

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August 11, 2014, 12:41:32 AM
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There's one thing that annoys me in the UI: when I click on the "ROLL DICE" the tab on the right side is switched from "ALL BETS" to "MY BETS". Why is that so? I want to watch all bets, my last bet is seen there already, why would one want to switch to "MY BETS" every time? Can you please make this switch optional?
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August 11, 2014, 12:46:52 AM
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There's one thing that annoys me in the UI: when I click on the "ROLL DICE" the tab on the right side is switched from "ALL BETS" to "MY BETS". Why is that so? I want to watch all bets, my last bet is seen there already, why would one want to switch to "MY BETS" every time? Can you please make this switch optional?

Seconded. Sometimes I just want to watch 'high bets', because I'm also watching for someone else who is betting at the same time as me. Sometimes I want to watch the chat. I can tell whether I won or lost by the colour change, and looking at my balance. I don't need to be taken to the 'my bets' tab.

Also, I have some issues with 2FA:

1) I can no longer divest when 2FA is enabled. It tells me:

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Found some errors
2FA code is invalid

every time I try.

2) 2FA codes are meant to be "one time". So if a hacker is watching my computer, he can see me using a 2FA code, but can't reuse it.

I have been able to use a single 6 digit code to turn 2FA on and then turn it back off again. That's no good. If my computer was compromised, the hacker could turn 2FA off right after I turn it off each time. You need to make sure that each 2FA code is only good *once*, (the 'O' in 'OTP')

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August 11, 2014, 12:52:36 AM
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Might as well share my stats.



Awesome site you got here.

On behalf of investors I'd like to thank you for not stopping at that. Dooglus however is off the leash again...
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August 11, 2014, 12:53:56 AM
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I want to watch all bets, my last bet is seen there already, why would one want to switch to "MY BETS" every time? Can you please make this switch optional?

"All bets" doesn't show small bets. But I agree the switch should be optional.
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August 11, 2014, 12:58:04 AM
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Might as well share my stats.



Awesome site you got here.

If you need a target to aim for, my high score is exactly 37.0000 profit. Smiley

"High score" haha doog talks about it like it is nothing more than a little game having 37 profit xD

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August 11, 2014, 01:41:59 AM
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I want to watch all bets, my last bet is seen there already, why would one want to switch to "MY BETS" every time? Can you please make this switch optional?

"All bets" doesn't show small bets. But I agree the switch should be optional.

True, but it should show all the ones I want to see.

I know it has been missing all kinds of big bets, but apparently a big fix was just uploaded, so hopefully now the bet tabs behave better.

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August 11, 2014, 01:46:04 AM
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There's one thing that annoys me in the UI: when I click on the "ROLL DICE" the tab on the right side is switched from "ALL BETS" to "MY BETS". Why is that so? I want to watch all bets, my last bet is seen there already, why would one want to switch to "MY BETS" every time? Can you please make this switch optional?

Seconded. Sometimes I just want to watch 'high bets', because I'm also watching for someone else who is betting at the same time as me. Sometimes I want to watch the chat. I can tell whether I won or lost by the colour change, and looking at my balance. I don't need to be taken to the 'my bets' tab.

Also, I have some issues with 2FA:

1) I can no longer divest when 2FA is enabled. It tells me:

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Found some errors
2FA code is invalid

every time I try.

2) 2FA codes are meant to be "one time". So if a hacker is watching my computer, he can see me using a 2FA code, but can't reuse it.

I have been able to use a single 6 digit code to turn 2FA on and then turn it back off again. That's no good. If my computer was compromised, the hacker could turn 2FA off right after I turn it off each time. You need to make sure that each 2FA code is only good *once*, (the 'O' in 'OTP')

1) That is a nice suggestion. in the next deploy the tabs will remain as-is Smiley

2) We pushed a fix 20mins ago. There was an error that didn't send the OTP with the request actually (broken JS). Sorry about that! Divest should work normally when 2FA is enabled.

Thanks again EVERYONE for your feedback. YOU GUYS rock!

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August 11, 2014, 02:03:19 AM
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Great site. Keep being responsive and honest and you'll grow and grow. Good stuff!
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August 11, 2014, 02:09:59 AM
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2) 2FA codes are meant to be "one time". So if a hacker is watching my computer, he can see me using a 2FA code, but can't reuse it.

I have been able to use a single 6 digit code to turn 2FA on and then turn it back off again. That's no good. If my computer was compromised, the hacker could turn 2FA off right after I turn it off each time. You need to make sure that each 2FA code is only good *once*, (the 'O' in 'OTP')

Thanks again EVERYONE for your feedback. YOU GUYS rock!

I think you missed the feedback I quoted above.

I have just been able to enable and then disable 2FA using the same 6 digit code.

Once a code has been used, it should stop being valid. Otherwise an attacker can use a form of "replay attack" to steal my coins.

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Something is broken on the Transaction History page. It's showing empty when I open it, when I click on Deposit it's still empty, when I click on Withdraw it shows my withdrawals, but then when I click on Deposit or All it's still showing just the withdrawals.
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August 11, 2014, 02:42:44 AM
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2) 2FA codes are meant to be "one time". So if a hacker is watching my computer, he can see me using a 2FA code, but can't reuse it.

I have been able to use a single 6 digit code to turn 2FA on and then turn it back off again. That's no good. If my computer was compromised, the hacker could turn 2FA off right after I turn it off each time. You need to make sure that each 2FA code is only good *once*, (the 'O' in 'OTP')

Thanks again EVERYONE for your feedback. YOU GUYS rock!

I think you missed the feedback I quoted above.

I have just been able to enable and then disable 2FA using the same 6 digit code.

Once a code has been used, it should stop being valid. Otherwise an attacker can use a form of "replay attack" to steal my coins.

Dooglus we never miss feedback. Not answering does not mean that we do not ack. You are right about this and we will provide a fix soon enough. Just so you know we have deployed several fixes today including:

  • Increased performance of UI (a lot!) Site should not be laggy from mobile phones (neither those dead jims should appear)
  • Non-ASCII characters are not allowed anymore
  • Usernames are case insensitive (although login is still case sensitive - we have to figure out what we will do with the existing accounts)
  • High bets are not throttled anymore. You should see all of them as they happen (threshold: 0.1)
  • Added 2FA on divest
  • We support 2FA codes for "bad clocks"
  • Reduced Robot Roll delays (see more on FAQ)
  • Removed "me" from chat and added the username instead
  • Now pressing Enter on roller and robot roll does not submit a bet

Stay tuned as in the next days we will have more updates Smiley

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August 11, 2014, 06:52:10 AM
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Might as well share my stats.

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Awesome site you got here.

If you need a target to aim for, my high score is exactly 37.0000 profit. Smiley

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I busted 9.5 of profits earlier, the greed overcame me Tongue

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August 11, 2014, 06:56:44 AM
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Something is broken on the Transaction History page. It's showing empty when I open it, when I click on Deposit it's still empty, when I click on Withdraw it shows my withdrawals, but then when I click on Deposit or All it's still showing just the withdrawals.

Try a reload. It seems that when the site is updated server-side, we need to refresh our clients to 'keep up'.

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August 11, 2014, 10:23:35 AM
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decided to post here from another topic:

I've been taking occasional snapshots of the site stats. The profit is far from stable:

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date                            investor profit                                                                         player profit
----                            ---------------                                                                         -------------
Sat Aug  9 09:45:31 PDT 2014    profit: -1.02023755     invested:       1,710.75568170  wagered:        1,935.1069      profit: 0.0676  bets:   3,393,343
Sat Aug  9 16:45:21 PDT 2014    profit: -11.76352107    invested:       1,789.50544471  wagered:        2,518.7667      profit: 10.7138 bets:   3,527,744
Sat Aug  9 21:52:27 PDT 2014    profit: -24.90444403    invested:       1,791.75849754  wagered:        2,678.0287      profit: 23.8547 bets:   3,582,148
Sun Aug 10 00:05:33 PDT 2014    profit: -8.34426980     invested:       1,768.84137234  wagered:        2,846.0450      profit: 7.2945  bets:   3,617,221
Sun Aug 10 09:14:48 PDT 2014    profit: -7.46499468     invested:       2,058.85087786  wagered:        2,892.4297      profit: 6.4135  bets:   3,766,398

As I remember it, my loss took the site profit from -26 to -1, and then "swaggg" or something like that won a bunch almost immediately, taking it back to -6 or so.

really nice to see almost 900 coins to be wagered in 24 hours, from Sat Aug  9 09:45:31 PDT 2014 to Sun Aug 10 09:14:48 PDT 2014.

as far as I remember, JD was doing something in between 1500 and 2000 coins per day during it's last months.
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August 11, 2014, 11:04:25 AM
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really nice to see almost 900 coins to be wagered in 24 hours, from Sat Aug  9 09:45:31 PDT 2014 to Sun Aug 10 09:14:48 PDT 2014.

as far as I remember, JD was doing something in between 1500 and 2000 coins per day during it's last months.

Robot roll is the key. It is capable to roll much more than people are able to do manually. People martingale with robot losing only the house edge, while manually they play much more irrational strategies and lose much faster. It's questionable which strategy is more profitable for the house, but robot roll will very likely stabilize the house winnings while the manual betting stays just the fraction of what was played on JD.
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