buy4crypto, i know your not a troll, but you are really starting to be one, don't be upset because you do not agree with 95% of the community... If you hold NO vericoin and you see the route we have collectively decided to take , then please just kindly leave. I don't want to ignore you as i know you mean no harm, but now it needs to stop.
thanx
To piggy back off this thought - buy4crypto you are in 1 of 2 categories right now. Either A: you hold vericoin and your investment has gone up 100% over the last 48 hours. So stop bitching. #2: you don't hold vericoin - so you are upset that there is good news in the future for the coin. So if you don't hold any coin, than just leave. So which is it? A or #2? A. I don't hold coins anymore. I haven't for a month now, Fact. Infact now that NY has started talking about regulating the entire virtual currency space I have decided to make my life easier and stop making the same mistake over and over, by buying into the same promises. B. Can you name a time in VeriCoins past, where there hasn't been a great future promised? C, I hold no vericoin, I am not upset that it is going up, VeriCoin should be a lot higher. I am not motivated by money anymore. Every time I have failed in life significantly has been a chase for money, while the greatest successes where in being great at something. I noticed being great at things, pays, and pays well. The fact that the only 2 reasons you gave me to be here are greed says a lot about why I am not meshing well with you all anymore. As soon as someone isn't as greedy as the next person, something obviously is wrong with them? I see things very clearly, I hope you all do as well. I know you are mainly good people, blinded by greed, hoping for a big jump in price to "cash in" on this new deal. Baseless accusations. More then 10 people have been explaining to you for 2 days now that we didnt sell out vericoin for a pump... As i see that you have no more vrc, you must have a different agenda here posting so much baseless stuff. Good thing you stopped with crypto, because you never should have put all your life savings in it in the first place. That will be my last post to you. I dont see that its possible to have a factual debate with you |
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I read your post two times now.
All that i see is:
1. Good guy image
2. Try too work on projects.
Where is supernet and its code? You are starting to get pretty delusional... I am delusional? I am sorry I dbl posted something, I edited the part where I repeated the same thing. If you think I am delusional, well. The facts are facts. If Doug says he never said a word to James. Then I am delusional, If Doug says he spoke with james about this, it would make a lot of sense that I am not so delusional, huh? I was actually told from Doug himself that he would use many of my ideas in an upcoming meeting. You starting to think i'm less delusional? This is exactly the part I can't stand, I am here to help you. I OWN NO VERICOIN. If you can't see this, I cannot help you further. I might have bad reading comprehension, so could you please point out and just bold the text where you proposed something similiar to supernet ( i wont even talk about the 40+k lines of code which james already completed therefor)? Because all i can see that you are repeating barabbas ( read the text from me in bold) The theory of cooperation and using our brand to bring coins together. I didn't propose anything technical. I am not 1 bit upset someone is doing this. Again, I will profit when the idea takes off, if it ever does. The thing you fail to realize is. I will lose all my value in "VeriCoin" because, when this deal is accepted, you are Boolberry, and everything else they acquire. Hopefully SuperNet can create enough value to make your new supernet coins more valuable. But as for "VeriCoin" itself, when this deal is accepted, everything hinges on 1 anon developer, as opposed to 3 public ones, who are now accountable, for said anon developer. I just read your pms a third time and indeed you are proposing cooperations between different coins - but we already have alot of examples for it, for example merged mining. Im sorry but you did not propose anything similiar to supernet - remember world vericoin day? You are doing the same right now... I have a honest question: Do you understand the concept and idea of supernet? Because vericoin will still stay independent with their own respective projects. James will be a vrc community member that contributes code (which not much people are doing!!). He wont be the boss of vrc |
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I read your post two times now.
All that i see is:
1. Good guy image
2. Try too work on projects.
Where is supernet and its code? You are starting to get pretty delusional... I am delusional? I am sorry I dbl posted something, I edited the part where I repeated the same thing. If you think I am delusional, well. The facts are facts. If Doug says he never said a word to James. Then I am delusional, If Doug says he spoke with james about this, it would make a lot of sense that I am not so delusional, huh? I was actually told from Doug himself that he would use many of my ideas in an upcoming meeting. You starting to think i'm less delusional? This is exactly the part I can't stand, I am here to help you. I OWN NO VERICOIN. If you can't see this, I cannot help you further. I might have bad reading comprehension, so could you please point out and just bold the text where you proposed something similiar to supernet ( i wont even talk about the 40+k lines of code which james already completed therefor)? Because all i can see that you are repeating barabbas ( read the text from me in bold) |
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The entire Escrow Fund now belongs to the VRC community! So there goes ALL the FUD out the window. We appreciate what James brings to the table and hope to continue a solid partnership going forward. We'll still be asking for donations to increase the Escrow as that will help the community in a lot of ways down the line but yeah… this is a WIN/WIN. Smile. Looks good on ya.  Jay Jay @VeryVeriViral A win win for the community but I dont understand why should james do all this and not get rewarded for it? What would be his motivation to actually make it happen ? He did that to show everyone that he is 100% legit and trustworthy which he indeed is. And if vericoin and james reach the goal together im 100% sure the vrc community will give him a really nice bounty  |
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PM 1 to Doug August 26, 2014, 10:43:24 AM » Its a lot, and I may miss a lot of points, as we work through things they will come up. I think the coin could use to get some of the stuff off of our plate. For our team to set a "standards" code. This doesn't have to be law, but a general way of doing business. As a standard, people representing the coin have to be able to detach personal emotions, profit motives and all other things that may influence them, and look at what the business of vericoin needs to succeed, and that is it. We cannot think of it as, What can Buy4crypto get out of it when I post everytime. And our developers have to think every time about the coin as well. We need to focus on cutting the projects out that don't make sense to the future of vericoin, and making the things we do, done well. I think this is a great place to start making changes. Once people see that the core developers, and core community is honest and are working hard, and creating value, then they investors will come back. VeriCoin needs to perhaps think of changing out the roadmap with various VeriCoin media of the few things we decide to do, and do well. For the Bio sections. Instead of saying who they are, or why they got into crypto. Our profiles should show us in a visionary light in some ways. As a team really pushing virtual currencies forward. Right now everyone in crypto is chasing a technological advancement. When the reality is this open sources code will be copied and applied by every coin. This is why, IMO a coin has failed to reach levels of significance closer to bitcoin. Every coin has the wrong pretense to achieve mass adoption. We are close by understanding we need to take chances to get to that point. If we focus on putting a culture in place, and growing a team ready to help people learn about crypto, this is where we will gain value, we can use our good guy image and really be a brand that stands for integrity, and quality. If we focus our goals, and time in the right areas, within months we could be brandable as the clean crypto, where your investment is safe, with honest people looking to take on another first in crypto, and get regulated. We can copy / paste the parts we need, and drop the ones we don't. If we need to code things, lets code them, and code them well. But for the most part. I think we can gain the most value by working to shift the image. This won't happen overnight. But if everyone is willing, and can see the vision, the team could really make great strides towards the future doing these steps. PM 2 to Doug August 26, 2014, 10:54:42 AM » I just had a PM from socal asking for a few points, so I will copy / paste what I sent him. "Its a lot, and I may miss a lot of points, as we work through things they will come up. I think the coin could use to get some of the stuff off of our plate. For our team to set a "standards" code. This doesn't have to be law, but a general way of doing business. As a standard, people representing the coin have to be able to detach personal emotions, profit motives and all other things that may influence them, and look at what the business of vericoin needs to succeed, and that is it. We cannot think of it as, What can Buy4crypto get out of it when I post every time. And our developers have to think every time about the coin as well. We need to focus on cutting the projects out that don't make sense to the future of vericoin, and making the things we do, done well. I think this is a great place to start making changes. Once people see that the core developers, and core community is honest and are working hard, and creating value, then they investors will come back. VeriCoin needs to perhaps think of changing out the roadmap with various VeriCoin media of the few things we decide to do, and do well. For the Bio sections. Instead of saying who they are, or why they got into crypto. Our profiles should show us in a visionary light in some ways. As a team really pushing virtual currencies forward. Right now everyone in crypto is chasing a technological advancement. When the reality is this open sources code will be copied and applied by every coin. This is why, IMO a coin has failed to reach levels of significance closer to bitcoin. Every coin has the wrong pretense to achieve mass adoption. We are close by understanding we need to take chances to get to that point. If we focus on putting a culture in place, and growing a team ready to help people learn about crypto, this is where we will gain value, we can use our good guy image and really be a brand that stands for integrity, and quality. If we focus our goals, and time in the right areas, within months we could be brandable as the clean crypto, where your investment is safe, with honest people looking to take on another first in crypto, and get regulated. We can copy / paste the parts we need, and drop the ones we don't. If we need to code things, lets code them, and code them well. But for the most part. I think we can gain the most value by working to shift the image. This won't happen overnight. But if everyone is willing, and can see the vision, the team could really make great strides towards the future doing these steps." And just a quick message to you personally. I think a new way to approach future development would be supporting other projects that we are interested in. Instead of competing off the bat. Let the Virtual Currency world work together a bit more. To show that we aren't all renegades and interested in ME, ME, ME. We have the chance to take a psychological step forward. Something not even bitcoin has achieved. Not 1 virtual currency has as many inherent advantages as this one, and we have strayed from what was making us strong in the past few months. This is something I hope you consider, and if you like the idea, I hope you share it with the community. We really need to stop thinking inside the box, and start thinking differently to impact a more positive outcome in the future. How are we getting from point a, to point b, with the greatest positive impact on every person, investor, mother, child along the way. If we team up with other currencies to offer support, be it our "Dev" department. Maybe we have a social media team, we can draw on our artists talent for other support roles to help the coins working on innovative projects get them out, and with more coordination, and in so many other ways. All of which these people can be public figures. At that point, we would be thanked, and given credibility. If we build out a team, and connect them with personal, professional looking bios I think you could have something special. I think you may find, many developers, and communities would find this a refreshing approach and work closely with VeriCoin, instead of viewing us as competition. PM 3 to Doug August 26, 2014, 11:03:24 AM » And if you do all that. Clearly state at the beginning, we are going to be working toward regulation. We need public figures ready to advance virtual currencies. Play the generic roll with this approach a bit more. Lets take the approach of the crypto good guys, that are investors in vericoin, but champions of the blockchain. Look at great companies like Bitpay. They just paid 500k a year for 3 years to market a bowlgame. They chose to represent Bitcoin over their own company name. This type of thinking shows how visionary these people are. We need more people to think like this. That VeriCoin is going to be around built on a foundation of honesty, integrity, and hard working people looking to make everyone's life better, regardless if they chose to invest in vericoin or coin X. I have a feeling when you are the first, and only coin with that goal, that you will attract a lot of the "right people" to this project. SuperNet thread Creation Date Aug 30 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.msg8592943#msg8592943James has been talking with VeriCoin developers for a while now. It looks like it didn't take him long to take my ideas, and run / profit on them. So, Ask yourselfs, what about ole buy4crypto and what he said to these devs just days in advance, of such a game changing idea. VeriCoin had all the tools to do this on its own, now. jl777 will put his name all over! Then, take all the credit, HOW LUCKY you guys are! I read your post two times now. All that i see is: 1. Good guy image 2. Try too work on projects. Where is supernet and its code? 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vrc is one of the core candidates. there will be a tech evaluation coming to see it vrc deserves the spot in the core |
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Sorry but we are now done with VRC.
Why after all the BTC we have spent on VRC would we spend any more if some egotistical anonymous dev is just going take all the credit and get paid for our efforts and any sort of price rise...
This is not at all how we wanted things to be but if ppl want to believe in the so called "jl777" effect as not being a pump, well thats just dumb. There are so many problems with this deal I can not even list them all. This developer as he said it... will not even have time for VeriCoin until next year.
On top of that....
The best thing VRC had going for it was the fact that all the developers where out and in the open with who they are and what their intentions have been, and this has been the biggest thing about VRC that is a threat to all the developers of shitcoins everywhere. Then this deal came into the picture and all that has gone out the window... ppl here are too impatient and jump up and down at the slightest mention of a pump... even after all the dumping that this coin has been through
apparently ppl just can not wait a month till after NY finishes their rules and regs. VRC could have really shined there by being first and only coin to comply...but JL777 joining in my mind kills all of that.
This developer joining VRC is as far away from being the whitehat of crypto as possible. Enjoy getting in bed with as JL777 himself called it "dirty" money and the potentially legal nightmare that this might become. but we are no more.
James donated the escrow back to the community for voted usage. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602041.msg8713312#msg8713312Hi Doug, What exactly does this mean, "for voted usage"? How will the funds be used? Thanks EDIT: It's nice to have this forum back. this means that the community will decide what to do with the fund this is more then win-win situation @james i didnt meant that supernet will overthrow or replace bitcoin, but it will help the altcoinmarket to grow and make standards, which will be very important to go mainstream with crypto |
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Please calm
I have been accepted as one of the members of VRC community
This I feel
The enemy of VRC is the enemy of jl777
I have created a high energy beam weapon to vaporize trolls. Truth and logic. These are things that are like the holy water to the vampires. Any troll that is not a sockpuppet that dares to troll in any of my homes is risking total loss of whatever credibility they have and even to be featured on the OP of the SuperNET thread (which should be quite a popular thread) along with a post in my widely followed blog.
They come here to spread fear and doubt with logicless propaganda, they leave with shame and public shunning. So, if everyone here will all just put on ignore the trolls on my ignorelist, then we can be totally immune to their attempts at manipulation. I will be proposing this in all my homes so we can conduct our lives without having to live with garbage all over the place.
So, many are putting in the 10%, this is good, but it seems only 20% have put in the 10%, so there is still more to go. Let us not be greedy, let us all "sacrifice" 10%. I will put 100% of my VRC in. Now we cannot force everybody to put in 10%, but we know that 10% of the total is to the exact amount, so until it is reached this we are having freeloaders.
Now if you are ok with being a freeloader, then just post that here. Then we will not be waiting for your 10%. This is OK, some people they are needing every last penny to survive, so you can explain why you must freeload while the others are contributing and working hard and you just keep all your precious VRC. maybe you are ashamed you are not wanting to admit this, but it is 10% of the VRC, not 90%, you can live without this 10%. Can you live with the shame of being a freeloader. Every day, you are reminded that you are the reason we are not achieving the goal.
Now, if the community cannot do a simple thing like sending 10% to an escrow fund that unarguably will help the currency by a lot more than 10%, then how to expect becoming the fiat spokescurrency for all of SuperNET? I need to be able to show all the other coin communities the strong spirit of UNITY the VRC community has and if it cannot even do what is needed for itself, then this makes it difficult, even impossible for me to have much power to convince other coins.
I expect that the trolls and even others are thinking this jl777 guy is clever, but he is just doing this for the making of more money. So, here is what I do to prove that I am no money motivated monkey.
I, jl777, hereby donate 100% of all the escrowed funds that I might earn from my works with the VRC to the VRC community. These funds are to be used by community voting weighed by their VRC stake to determine approval or rejection of spending proposals. There will be two levels of threshold, simple majority and two-thirds majority, this it depends on what is being voted on. If a debate over what level threshold, then a simple majority vote will decide the threshold to use.
I hope this proves that my goal and intent for the whole asking the impossible amount of money is not for personal gain, but for UNITY within VRC. Now, I might have some uses for some funds, so if ever the VRC community is feeling the sense of gratitude and thankfulness for whatever I am helping to achieve, then I will certainly not object to receiving a bounty from the escrow funds.
James
P.S. I do realize that I just gave away what will become worth more than $1 million USD, but this is less than half of what I have already given away, so it is not as "big" as it seems. I trust the VRC community to treat me properly when the time comes, but first I show the high level of trust to you.
You are a genius developer and coder and the only thing that surpass it is your sense of companionship. Im happy and grateful to be part of something that might be as big as bitcoin itself |
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30 min left...
James, can you confirm or deny that? I thought we had more then 30 minutes? I am very happy with VRC community response. Just keep the fund raising going, the purpose is not to make me rich, the purpose is to bind the community together. A shared commitment. A shared result. A shared resolve. A shared success. So, I will confirm that barring a sudden stoppage of funds coming in, eg. people being greedy to not want to "lose" their VRC by putting it into escrow, then with just that condition I will commit to helping VRC to da moon over the next 6 months as I wrote about yesterday. It wont be instant like BBR. I predicted doubling, maybe a bit more and considering we are already ~80% it does seem quite likely. But this is a long team effort and my time will be limited to advices and thinking of the new tech until next year. but by then VRC is transformed with positive achievement attitude, new 2.0 facelift and all the new features from the VRC team nicely integrated in. As the designated fiat world interface, the real world interactions for SuperNET will need to be handled by VRC community. This is why it is vital to have zero tolerance for trolls and just put them on ignore, dont respond if they are not fact based and misrepresenting. There is no time for troll games. I will be a bit busy, but I know that with the positive attitude and common goal, the success, it is as they say, "a done deal" James I know you want to be anonymous I can respect the reasons why but would you be willing to do a hangout where your voice is changed and your image is hidden? That would be no difference to him posting here. About the timeline: I think james made clear with his post that this here is not about 500k in exactly 24 hours. He wanted the commitment and unity of the vericoin community to take the next step. So far i understand this is already a done deal as long as the vericoin community is following the commitment to get funds together. And also he made clear what the goal for vericoin and supernet is: To have vericoin as the public face of supernet to the mainstream. We have public known devs and our goal is making vericoin mainstream and supernet wants to unite crypto to make it mainstream. There will be no changes to the vericoin core, what we get are additional features and a bigger userbase. For me i can only see a win-win situation, but this is of course a decision that must be made by everyone in the vrc community. So far we raised nearly 500 k in less then 24 hours. And tbh this is really impressive and shows where we - the vrc community - want to go! |
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I think so too, bot is holding volume up, but that could indicate a pump soon
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No, im not a troll. I just saw that a lot of people are losing faith on him now but i still followed what he tells us. I invested on vrc. I removed my little investment from bbr as you see that the price is going down and transfer it to vrc lol
Im pretty sure that this is not james intention. Read his post again about vrc or his posts about investing in general: he does NOT support pump and dumps |
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James you are awesome keep up all your great visions and work. The future is ours we just need Unity  And never let the fudders get you down - there are more then just alot of people trusting and believing in you |
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again, we could argue all day long but multigate is nothing but exchange with the hassle you have to install third party program.
Again, MGW is a decentralized exchange. For supernet you have to install a app like a coin wallet, which code is open source and free of malware of course. No mtgox no mintpal no bter hack in the future Everybody sees that you are doing a really bad job at fudding so i will refrain from answering you now |
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So James is going to create some cool technology for Vericoin in order to enter the SuperNET. Isnt it funny? So now everyone is going to made up some BS technology and ask James if it would be interesting for SuperNET? Looks like it will be the ultimate pump and dump game. Some pumpers will announce "technology" and say they are in, price moving up , they dumping...and again "next coin please" this was a superhypepump. soon no one know what's going on. so james have finished one project(multigateway.com), how many months did it take? 5 months? right now he is promised 10 to 20 projects so which could take years. in this fast evolving crypto world all his hype ideas would considered as scam in my book by the way multigateway is nothing special or innovation, just exchange script with a few edit to the original script get exchange script here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=595156.0just some editting to the original exchange script and you get multigateway MGW is decentralized. I dont need to explain what you linked right? Lmao it should work like exchange but within wallet. not much different Lmao you arent even reading what you link. You can buy a centralized exhange website lol Right now you have negative credibility  a few other coins already have this kind of exchange within their wallet or working on it, cloakcoin is one of it Mgw runs for months now while other coins are having wallet guis that enables you to logging to bittrex nice U should try harder or you wont get your salary for fudding  or risk download a scammer program with malware soon to still all your coins hm... log into bittrex or risk download malware and the hassle of install it The code is open source there is no hidden malware, you can check at the github yourself |
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So James is going to create some cool technology for Vericoin in order to enter the SuperNET. Isnt it funny? So now everyone is going to made up some BS technology and ask James if it would be interesting for SuperNET? Looks like it will be the ultimate pump and dump game. Some pumpers will announce "technology" and say they are in, price moving up , they dumping...and again "next coin please" this was a superhypepump. soon no one know what's going on. so james have finished one project(multigateway.com), how many months did it take? 5 months? right now he is promised 10 to 20 projects so which could take years. in this fast evolving crypto world all his hype ideas would considered as scam in my book by the way multigateway is nothing special or innovation, just exchange script with a few edit to the original script get exchange script here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=595156.0just some editting to the original exchange script and you get multigateway MGW is decentralized. I dont need to explain what you linked right? Lmao it should work like exchange but within wallet. not much different Lmao you arent even reading what you link. You can buy a centralized exhange website lol Right now you have negative credibility a few other coins already have this kind of exchange within their wallet or working on it, cloakcoin is one of it Mgw runs for months now while other coins are having wallet guis that enables you to logging to bittrex nice U should try harder or you wont get your salary for fudding |
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it should work like exchange but within wallet. this is his c+ programming come in. not much different
You're boring. Crypto nowadays isn't about feature, but hype. Right now the hype is on VRC and Supernet, you should just enjoy the ride. If crypto is all about feature, my personal favorite saffroncoin would have a much higher market cap. But it doesn't work that way. You need that hype to raise the price of a coin. Sorry but that just not true. Tell me one unique feature of saffroncoin? The thing is there is no. A good coin has to have good marketing/hype and tech to back up the value |
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So James is going to create some cool technology for Vericoin in order to enter the SuperNET. Isnt it funny? So now everyone is going to made up some BS technology and ask James if it would be interesting for SuperNET? Looks like it will be the ultimate pump and dump game. Some pumpers will announce "technology" and say they are in, price moving up , they dumping...and again "next coin please" this was a superhypepump. soon no one know what's going on. so james have finished one project(multigateway.com), how many months did it take? 5 months? right now he is promised 10 to 20 projects so which could take years. in this fast evolving crypto world all his hype ideas would considered as scam in my book by the way multigateway is nothing special or innovation, just exchange script with a few edit to the original script get exchange script here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=595156.0just some editting to the original exchange script and you get multigateway MGW is decentralized. I dont need to explain what you linked right? Lmao it should work like exchange but within wallet. not much different Lmao you arent even reading what you link. You can buy a centralized exhange website lol Right now you have negative credibility |
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So James is going to create some cool technology for Vericoin in order to enter the SuperNET. Isnt it funny? So now everyone is going to made up some BS technology and ask James if it would be interesting for SuperNET? Looks like it will be the ultimate pump and dump game. Some pumpers will announce "technology" and say they are in, price moving up , they dumping...and again "next coin please" this was a superhypepump. soon no one know what's going on. so james have finished one project(multigateway.com), how many months did it take? 5 months? right now he is promised 10 to 20 projects so which could take years. in this fast evolving crypto world all his hype ideas would considered as scam in my book by the way multigateway is nothing special or innovation, just exchange script with a few edit to the original script get exchange script here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=595156.0just some editting to the original exchange script and you get multigateway MGW is decentralized. I dont need to explain what you linked right? Lmao |
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So James is going to create some cool technology for Vericoin in order to enter the SuperNET. Isnt it funny? So now everyone is going to made up some BS technology and ask James if it would be interesting for SuperNET? Looks like it will be the ultimate pump and dump game. Some pumpers will announce "technology" and say they are in, price moving up , they dumping...and again "next coin please" It's funny that you're trying to take something very straightforward and twist it. James has a reputation of being a solid active dev and not a pumper. So calling him a pumper is completely false. Sorry I dont consider james to be pumper, Im talking about people in crypto industry, they will be using SuperNET for pumping their coins. I respect James, I just think the situation that is ahead of us will be funny. There is a evaluatiion process that every coin has to go through to be accepted as a supernet core coin - vericoin is no exception! You should read the irc log at page 788. James even pointed out that it will be harder to get in because he is helping, but i think everyone can imagine that vericoin + jl777 = MOON |
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how many of the top 100 have escrowed?
When 50 of them have I will add 200K VRC
James
I think atleast 30 ppl have already donated from the top 100 so far. There are alot of people scared of supernet evolving to the biggest crypto payment network that might be able to even challenge bitcoins marketcap in the future. And the vericoin community just decided to stand united with supernet - i expect to see more fud that probaly will be on a whole different level then what we saw in the past months |
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