Stop piecemealing your understanding of what I wrote. Read all the way to the end.
If your argument has failed in part, it has failed in whole. (Hence, as one would with a mathematical proof, I stopped with the first "error.") You have failed. You ascribe Communism as the solution. Or non-production, which is the same as Communism. |
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The people responded by banding together with unions and government to expropriate profits from the capitalists and the capitalists then banded together to capture the control of the governments and unions from behind the curtain.
Governments were under the control of plutocrats from the innovation of central banking, for their endeavors (invariably?) required an appeal thereto. Stop piecemealing your understanding of what I wrote. Read all the way to the end. Of course there are many reasons the people fell under the plutocracy, including protection and road building during the agrarian Age (e.g. Rome). But that is irrelevant to the punchline of my post. You can't erase wealth without also erasing the Second Law of Thermodynamics, at least not until we achieve the zero margin economy or you expect people to work for no return not even reputation as I explained. Read my post for the reasoning.
"[W]ealth" (TPTB_need_war) does not exist without one to conceive it (Note: I do not subscribe to philosophical realism.); therefore, the destruction of Earth through its conversion into energy (which would not violate the second law of thermodynamics) would, necessarily, destroy all "wealth" (TPTB_need_war) (save, of course, for the conception of it elsewhere). As well, that you would contend an objective existence to what is mere notion is, in this case, "in service of plutocracy" (username18333). Why will a person produce if they can't attain something in return such a reputation, the good feelings of a gift economy, or money? Communism assumes people will produce just because they are ideological slaves. You propose slavery. Can't you see you are with Marx? |
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The power is granted to TPTB because the people rely on industrial goods and physical protection from those who have access to those industrial goods which can kill.
(I will contend your premise thus eluding the contention of your argument [whatever it was]. [Perhaps, in your next post, you will first establish your premise and, then, present your argument.]) Plutocracy is "government by the wealthy" ( Merriam-Webster); therefore, it requires some set of conditions whereunder "wealth" (Merriam-Webster) can exist. In the case of modern Plutocracy, that is the manipulation of culture to condition a people to accept a money in service thereof no matter the degree whereto it behaves contrary to their interests. I addressed your response in the rest of my post. If you are so fucking lazy as to not even read, then clutter this thread with your laziness. Fuck! People are getting tired of your shit. They really are. Elevate your discourse please. You can't erase wealth without also erasing the Second Law of Thermodynamics, at least not until we achieve the zero margin economy or you expect people to work for no return not even reputation as I explained. Read my post for the reasoning. |
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username18333, please do not falsely accuse me of supporting the plutocracy nor of not undertaking actions to realistically remove their power from our lives. The power is granted to TPTB because the people rely on industrial goods and physical protection from those who have access to those industrial goods which can kill. Up until the recent invention of the 3D printer, industrial goods required large fixed capital investments in factories, which thus required large capitalists and large capitalists required protection for their factories against those who had the power to make war. And since aggregation of capital was natural in this system, the oversupply of laborers were at a disadvantage in terms of demand the lion's share of the factories profits and as competition has driven profits down, more and more of the profits necessarily had to go to the capitalist funding the fixed capital investment to produce industrial goods. The people responded by banding together with unions and government to expropriate profits from the capitalists and the capitalists then banded together to capture the control of the governments and unions from behind the curtain. Thus handing the power to make war to the composition of government with capitalists controllers. As the capitalists were able to aggregate much wealth this way, they could not invest in more factories without causing an oversupply, so in order to get a ROI they have to loan their capital but they needed a public back stop so they could loan to any one with a heart beat and be guaranteed to be paid back. Also this situation lead to too much power in the hands of these bankster capitalist TPTB (plutocracy), thus formed new corruptions such as the investment banks Goldman Sachs which do what ever in the fuck they please running amok pleasing Satan greatly. So then I wrote those 3 seminal essays that CoinCube linked to from the opening post of the Economic Devastation thread, wherein I explained about technology was changing the basis of finance which has the potential to destroy the basis of that morass of the Industrial Age. It was in one of those essays about the fundamental qualities of entropy that I predicted in 2010, the ultimate federalization of Europe was inescapable. And it is your lack of understanding of entropy which causes you to propose an entirely unrealistic (non-)solution of anti-money, which I will explain below. I am not going to get in a long noisy exchange with you and your bizarre noisy way of quoting by butchering content with colorization and inserting people's usernames into text in parenthesis and generally writing in a way that no one can hardly comprehend your sentences. I will explain what is and leave it for the readers to decide if I am correct. As we move into the Knowledge Age, the relevant capital is the ability to create knowledge and no longer monetary savings because I can go start creating knowledge in my nipa hut or home office and all I need is my brain and a cheap computer. Heck one can build in the USA from newegg.com (which accepts BTC) a very powerful development computer (as powerful per core as an i7) with a dual-core Pentium with a large flat screen monitor for < $400. Even a rudimentary Rasberry Pi 2 costs $75 complete without monitor. Thus since knowledge is owned and created by the individual (due to the Mythical Man Month not even collaboration competes with individual creation of knowledge), it can not be financed with usury. I explained the reasons in detail in my aforementioned essay. Go read it, if you want to understand. Thus the greatest ROI will go to the creators of knowledge themselves, there is no way that the usurists will be able to grow their capital fast enough to keep up. Thus the usurists will try as they are to enforce totalitarianism to try to expropriate capital. But all they can do with this is destroy knowledge capital by destroying the knowledge creators. They can never, ever again get back their power from the Industrial Age. It's over for them. They should accept it. They have no choice. So we knowledge creators mostly want to trade our knowledge. We want to leverage the knowledge creation of others and interopt so as to produce greater and greater knowledge making the world more and more prosperous. So how can we trade our knowledge? We could just share it for free (open source with no business model) but there are two issues to consider: 1. How do we produce/attain the industrial and physical goods we need? How do we attain land to live on? Obtain weapons to protect ourselves? 2. What is our way to incentivize knowledge creation that is worthy, and disincentivize knowledge creation that is wasteful or harmful (e.g. code with lots of bugs or poor quality)? We must recognize that knowledge creations are not fungible. Thus how do we incentivize someone to work on a knowledge area that only a few people need? If we argue that reputation and a gift economy will be the substitute for money, then how do we concentrate reputation to incentivize the maximum division-of-labor so that experts will work on very narrow areas of knowledge that only a few people will care to even know about? The maximum division-of-labor is required by the irreversible progression of entropy towards maximum per the Second Law of Thermodynamics. In short, we can not get rid of fungible money and still have an economy that is compatible with the Second Law of Thermodynamics. So thus I realized that the only path forward was to create an anonymous money and network system so the Knowledge Age could flourish unfettered by the old world industrial capitalists who want to expropriate our economy because they can't compete with us any other way. The Knowledge Age will not eliminate money entirely but it will have some major differences from the Industrial Age: - Any autodidact can obtain capital simply by doing, no need to seek our vulture capitalists
- Knowledge capital will always be fleeting because those creating will outpace the wealth of those who are not.
- It becomes impossible to finance knowledge creation, thus the monetary capital has to be distributed by investment in those who actually own their knowledge. So the money will turn over very fast (much higher velocity of money) because no one wants to hold it for very long. You as a knowledge creator can't really leverage more knowledge than you can understand, thus utility of money diminishes rapidly the more you have. As industrial goods (and even the cloning of humans) moves towards zero margins, you can have as many physical things as you want nearly for free, so who needs to hoard money?
Thus you see the money I am creating is an anti-money of sorts, but it is done as a realistic transition from the current Industrial Age to the near zero-margin economy of the future. Whereas the anti-money you are proposing can never get adopted because it is an abrupt assumption that we are already at the end game of a near zero-margin economy of the future. I urge you to stop wasting your time and throw your support behind my or any other's efforts to create the anonymous money and network system we need. And please stop cluttering the threads with your redundant arguments that we all need to give up on society and becoming foraging nomads surviving on seeds, which effectively what a world without fungible money would be. |
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username18333, please do not falsely accuse me of supporting the plutocracy nor of not undertaking actions to realistically remove their power from our lives. The power is granted to TPTB because the people rely on industrial goods and physical protection from those who have access to those industrial goods which can kill. Up until the recent invention of the 3D printer, industrial goods required large fixed capital investments in factories, which thus required large capitalists and large capitalists required protection for their factories against those who had the power to make war. And since aggregation of capital was natural in this system, the oversupply of laborers were at a disadvantage in terms of demand the lion's share of the factories profits and as competition has driven profits down, more and more of the profits necessarily had to go to the capitalist funding the fixed capital investment to produce industrial goods. The people responded by banding together with unions and government to expropriate profits from the capitalists and the capitalists then banded together to capture the control of the governments and unions from behind the curtain. Thus handing the power to make war to the composition of government with capitalists controllers. As the capitalists were able to aggregate much wealth this way, they could not invest in more factories without causing an oversupply, so in order to get a ROI they have to loan their capital but they needed a public back stop so they could loan to any one with a heart beat and be guaranteed to be paid back. Also this situation lead to too much power in the hands of these bankster capitalist TPTB (plutocracy), thus formed new corruptions such as the investment banks Goldman Sachs which do what ever in the fuck they please running amok pleasing Satan greatly. So then I wrote those 3 seminal essays that CoinCube linked to from the opening post of the Economic Devastation thread, wherein I explained about technology was changing the basis of finance which has the potential to destroy the basis of that morass of the Industrial Age. It was in one of those essays about the fundamental qualities of entropy that I predicted in 2010, the ultimate federalization of Europe was inescapable. And it is your lack of understanding of entropy which causes you to propose an entirely unrealistic (non-)solution of anti-money, which I will explain below. I am not going to get in a long noisy exchange with you and your bizarre noisy way of quoting by butchering content with colorization and inserting people's usernames into text in parenthesis and generally writing in a way that no one can hardly comprehend your sentences. I will explain what is and leave it for the readers to decide if I am correct. As we move into the Knowledge Age, the relevant capital is the ability to create knowledge and no longer monetary savings because I can go start creating knowledge in my nipa hut or home office and all I need is my brain and a cheap computer. Heck one can build in the USA from newegg.com (which accepts BTC) a very powerful development computer (as powerful per core as an i7) with a dual-core Pentium with a large flat screen monitor for < $400. Even a rudimentary Rasberry Pi 2 costs $75 complete without monitor. Thus since knowledge is owned and created by the individual (due to the Mythical Man Month not even collaboration competes with individual creation of knowledge), it can not be financed with usury. I explained the reasons in detail in my aforementioned essay. Go read it, if you want to understand. Thus the greatest ROI will go to the creators of knowledge themselves, there is no way that the usurists will be able to grow their capital fast enough to keep up. Thus the usurists will try as they are to enforce totalitarianism to try to expropriate capital. But all they can do with this is destroy knowledge capital by destroying the knowledge creators. They can never, ever again get back their power from the Industrial Age. It's over for them. They should accept it. They have no choice. So we knowledge creators mostly want to trade our knowledge. We want to leverage the knowledge creation of others and interopt so as to produce greater and greater knowledge making the world more and more prosperous. So how can we trade our knowledge? We could just share it for free (open source with no business model) but there are two issues to consider: 1. How do we produce/attain the industrial and physical goods we need? How do we attain land to live on? Obtain weapons to protect ourselves? 2. What is our way to incentivize knowledge creation that is worthy, and disincentivize knowledge creation that is wasteful or harmful (e.g. code with lots of bugs or poor quality)? We must recognize that knowledge creations are not fungible. Thus how do we incentivize someone to work on a knowledge area that only a few people need? If we argue that reputation and a gift economy will be the substitute for money, then how do we concentrate reputation to incentivize the maximum division-of-labor so that experts will work on very narrow areas of knowledge that only a few people will care to even know about? The maximum division-of-labor is required by the irreversible progression of entropy towards maximum per the Second Law of Thermodynamics. In short, we can not get rid of fungible money and still have an economy that is compatible with the Second Law of Thermodynamics. So thus I realized that the only path forward was to create an anonymous money and network system so the Knowledge Age could flourish unfettered by the old world industrial capitalists who want to expropriate our economy because they can't compete with us any other way. The Knowledge Age will not eliminate money entirely but it will have some major differences from the Industrial Age: - Any autodidact can obtain capital simply by doing, no need to seek our vulture capitalists
- Knowledge capital will always be fleeting because those creating will outpace the wealth of those who are not.
- It becomes impossible to finance knowledge creation, thus the monetary capital has to be distributed by investment in those who actually own their knowledge. So the money will turn over very fast (much higher velocity of money) because no one wants to hold it for very long. You as a knowledge creator can't really leverage more knowledge than you can understand, thus utility of money diminishes rapidly the more you have. As industrial goods (and even the cloning of humans) moves towards zero margins, you can have as many physical things as you want nearly for free, so who needs to hoard money?
Thus you see the money I am creating is an anti-money of sorts, but it is done as a realistic transition from the current Industrial Age to the near zero-margin economy of the future. Whereas the anti-money you are proposing can never get adopted because it is an abrupt assumption that we are already at the end game of a near zero-margin economy of the future. I urge you to stop wasting your time and throw your support behind my or any other's efforts to create the anonymous money and network system we need. And please stop cluttering the threads with your redundant arguments that we all need to give up on society and becoming foraging nomads surviving on seeds, which effectively what a world without fungible money would be. |
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OROBTC, as I wrote in my reply to you in the MA thread, Paraguay is good for residency and citizenship, but not for living. Problems with the rebels in the Chaco area. Problems with drugs and crime infestation in the cities. Perhaps it is not as bad as the stories on the internet? (I remember stories on the internet of how bad it was in Mindanao, yet I've been here on and off for 25 years) The way to live in S.A. is Paraguay citizenship and tourist living in Argentina. Or if you prefer substitute any tax haven citizenship for Paraguay, such as Dominica, Pitcairn island, etc.. If you want a place to escape from crime and do what ever you want (including your guns), then look for a Pacific island to buy. Some of us could pool our resources to do that if we were serious. Yeah Australia looks like it is being taken over by the Communist Chinese as well, who are buying up the land. And they turned Wikileaks founder Assange over the USA. And they highly regulate guns which is so strange for a country that is mostly wide open farms. But Australia is more first world and safer than S.A. countries (and also incredibly expensive). |
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macgsa the entire EU will be dragged into the contagion and it will end up as a consolidation of the debt in a federalization where all member states give up sovereignty. Why don't you understand that the masses are sheep. Just accept it.
OROBTC, Peru taxes residents (foreign or citizen) on all their worldwide (domestic and foreign) income. You become automatically resident if you physically reside more then 6 months of the year. Also 18% VAT. So it is not an option for me.
Argentina also taxes residents (foreign or citizen) on all their worldwide (domestic and foreign) income. And a 21% VAT plus a 1.25% annual real estate tax. But the income tax only applies to people who apply for residency. Thus you could stay in Argentina as long as you want as a tourist, even buy land, and never be a resident. You could either cross the land border with Chile for 1 day every 3 months, or apparently others have claimed just overstay your visa and pay a fine when you are ready to leave (or get caught by the police which is apparently rare). If you buy a car, then buy it in Chile and just import it temporarily with you, but you must make sure you exit every 3 months for 1 day. Do not try to own a car in Argentina! The bureaucracy!
Paraguay and Uruguay for example offer residency and citizenship and afaik do not tax worldwide income.
As for gun rights, you can get permits and Argentina is perhaps the most permissive in South America.
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Because Australia has ratified the UN Convention on Stateless Persons, then you can not renounce your Australian citizenship unless you are already a dual citizen: https://www.border.gov.au/Forms/Documents/128.pdfWhereas, USA citizens can renounce in an embassy and become stateless. I just discovered this scary information for US citizens: http://hodgen.com/relinquishing-u-s-citizenship-and-expatriation/Someone who renounces U.S. citizenship in time of war, with the U.S. Attorney General’s approval, will be considered to have relinquished U.S. citizenship under the Immigration and Nationality Act [see 8 U.S.C. Section 1481(a)(6)] but not under the Internal Revenue Code [see 26 U.S.C. Section 877A(g)(4)]. So if the USA declares war, we US citizens can no longer renounce our US citizenship for IRS tax purposes! Once the USA goes to war (in 2017), you are forever locked in to the USA! You might want to find out if Australia has a similar clause in their renunciation law. |
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If you are already an Australian citizen, then I think you should stay there for the time being, but get a 2nd citizenship for your family in a jurisdiction that won't tax (won't require you to report) your foreign earned income. Then you can wait and see what happens, and if necessary you can flee using your 2nd citizenship and even renounce your Australian citizenship if it becomes absolutely necessary (hopefully not).
I can't see what NZ offers that is a significant advantage? The warmest is 24C but only 2 months of the year. Beautiful place to visit perhaps. If you need to flee Australia, then you need to flee NZ also. I was only in Brisbane and up the coast going North back in 1999 just the month before I lost my eye. I was warm enough for me.
Your strength is you are already an Australian citizen. I don't know if you already live in a rural area or can move out there. I'd be liquidating real estate now and moving to $usd (waiting for the coming low in crypto and gold) and renting. You could diversify in gold, crypto, and US stocks after Spring 2016. Then you will accumulate more than enough wealth to do what you need to do in the coming crisis.
Aren't there reasonably good private schools or quaint local community schools in the rural areas for your kids? While they are in elementary school that is probably fine. Before they hit middle school, you'd really benefit from not enrolling them in the city schools or perhaps by that time have found an entirely different country you like and they would be old enough to be more able to watch out for danger.
Hey if you've got a rural place I might come visit you and pay rent. Then you could come visit me if I end up in S.A.. Team work.
If you want to discuss 2nd citizenships, then PM me. Haven't we traded messages before? I've forgotten.
I am also interested in rural Australia, but I don't want to become a resident just now because I don't want an obligation to report my financials to Australia. So if I come to Australia, I want to be a visitor and renting short-term (3 - 6 months).
My problem is I don't know if I can get a tourist visa for my gf. Australia seems to make it very difficult for filipinos? I'd need to go talk to them at the Embassy in Manila. Perhaps they can accept some bond as a guarantee that the pinay will return and not work?
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I did consider the Philippines because I qualify for Balikbayan status, I would never have imagined the place turning into a police state (I was last there 6 years ago)
But I suppose these things can change rapidly.
I have no problem looking after myself, my only concern is the safety of my young kids, who become targets of kidnappings in turd world countries.
The changes accelerated as of 2010. It was as if someone flipped a switch and suddenly there was construction every where. I think it was the QE was ending up over here as foreign investment in corporate bond issues. It has made them overconfident and wanting to turn Philippines into a copy of America (I even see an occasional strip mall now). I am exaggerating a bit and consider the Mayor of Davao is really the most extreme of all Mayors as far as putting more police on the streets. So perhaps other cities in the Philippines are less so. But I do literally see police every 500 - 1000 meters in the city. And checkpoints are becoming more frequent and random. And it is ridiculous that they have banned people with vision in only one eye from driving at night. That is an extreme overreaction to one car accident where a filipino without vision in one eye killed 3 kids in a car accident. That to me is indicative of totalitarian attitudes. "We can make a safer world if we violate the lives of innocent people". I walk in to renew my DL and suddenly I am told I can't drive at night (which for example I always need to do because that is the time when there is no traffic so I can quickly travel to my other location where Bitmessage runs because it doesn't function on the ISP at my nice rental house). I was told I could hire a filipino driver. Fuck that! I see the writing on the wall and I don't like the change. I'll still be visiting (and driving at night with the "international driver's license" I will obtain tomorrow hopefully) but not residing here too much longer. Hey welcome to the Philippines. First we gouge your eye out, then after your 25 years of residence in our country, we take away your priviledge to drive because of the eye we took from you, so you can be forced to hire a filipino driver (who might be the one who conveniently drives you to the kidnappers one night). Kidnappings were severe in the Philippines before the economy turned up and many laborers were exported overseas to work. With the global downturn, we might see that revert at least until 2020 when MA predicts Asia will bottom. Education is horrendous in the Philippines. Don't subject your kids to it. I made that mistake. If safety of your kids is a greater concern than their indoctrination by State education and socialism, then I'd agree Australia and NZ are better choices than any of the turd countries. Home schooling in those countries is regulated. For me, I'd want my kids to grow up with dangeradventure/rustic/rural and not be overly sheltered. I want them to be strong and understand the real world and receive a real world education. But that is just me. I am different than most people. The Balikbayan 1 year visa is no big deal any more. You can get 6 months extensions now and up to 3 years before you need to travel out. And then you are not forced to travel with your filipina wife. And why raise kids in the Philippines? Philippines is a hell hole. It is good for single men for obvious reasons. But for your children, why subject them to that. Maybe there is something positive to be said about the repressed conservative values here, yet then they will be watching all that sexy dancing and other inane TV shows. And indoctrinating them with lots of other nonsense at the schools which the kids rebel against. My kids went crazy when they hit the USA after being held back by the Philippines values. And your wife's relatives will dominate you here. You need some separation to feel like you are still not just a "kano" white ivory trophy on the wall in the home. |
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I totally agree, when SHTF the most remote place is the safest to be. I'd say that if you choose Andes (aka: high altitude) you'd better learn the food treatment processes as well as altitude sickness ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altitude_sickness). Not everything is edible up there like you're used to and the aforementioned disease makes no exceptions for anyone (even fit athletes can get it). Thanks. I will look into that later if ever there. There are the foothills to start with perhaps. I admit I am ignorant. Another thing to look out for is where the nuclear plants are located. Believe me following the 1/r^2 rule, you need to be as far as possible.  That Bataan red dot in the Philippines is for a plant that was never operated. I don't even know if there is any nuclear fuel stored there. I just read today that Argentina has nuclear plants. A lot of people are favoring Australia and NZ. I disfavor their tax policies and high levels of government interference. I guess it depends on the scenario one is preparing for. I think government enslavement by regulation and taxes is more likely than F.U.B.A.R. nuclear chaos. If we go to nuclear chaos, then you could have your own private plane or boat to get away or some appropriate bunker. As for the guns/gunpowder, I wish luck to anyone who get as many as they can with them, after some months are passed.  Nomads can hide supplies all over if they've prepared. I wasn't speaking as if I have a workable plan for hiding out in the Andes mountains. I meant that I'd try to be in an area where I could develop such a plan if I needed to as a last resort. And I wasn't restricting myself to highlands. I assume there are many nooks and crannies, valleys, canyons, caves, etc.. And natives who know them available for the right price as guides and porters. And I hope of course I never have to go to that extreme. |
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I am considering Tasmania or New Zealand, both places do get bitterly cold in winter though & I couldn't find any data from these areas for the previous mini ice age.
How low do you think real estate value will plummet from the current prices?
Australia (Tasmania) and NZ are both 5 Eyes countries. They tax residents foreigners all on their foreign income. You can expect them to be very proficient at implementing enslavement policies such as national biometric identification, fines for even a crack on your taillight, gun control, etc.. NZ is slightly better than Australia, but as you say not a warm climate if we do enter a Little Ice Age. I am very willing to go live in those countries for less than 6 months a year as a tourist, but why would you want to become a permanent resident? See the comments from Doug Casey in my prior post. Australia and NZ are at the peak of their real estate booms, especially with the Chinese have been pouring money in to get it out of China. If had to wager a guess, then compared to buying BTC at the coming bottom $150 or less, then I would say real estate in those two countries will decline by a factor of no less than 3 as measured in BTC and I'd put good odds on a factor of 10 times. Meaning if you'd instead hold BTC (or even gold after the coming $700 low) for the next few years and rent, you'd be 3 - 10 times richer. That is my guess. Anyone else want to share their guess or reasoning? Someone had shared with me a link on hot NZ has these episodes of hot air North-westerlies, that make the local population miserable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nor%27west_archThis turbulent weather can apparently mess with the human mood. I am thinking I'd rather live in a place where the government is as corrupt as possible, because as Doug Casey says they are inefficient at messing with you. He says you have a near zero chance of a traffic stop in Argentina for example. On the downside, you have to protect yourself. I am not a weakling or a pussie who needs a nanny state to protect me. As I said, I could still travel any where I prefer, but I think here we are talking where to settle down a residence and tax jurisdiction. And where to bugout if the world goes F.U.B.A.R.. For example, in Argentina I've read that if you overstay your visa even for 10 years, you pay a fine and are not deported. Try that in any Asian country! Actually I did overstay a few years in the Philippines in the 1990s and I had to talk to the immigration commissioner for the entire country to get out of that trouble. And the Philippines is changing now and becoming more and more a police state. I'm ready to leave perhaps by 2016. |
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Articles of interest on South America: http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/12/practical-shooter-released-from-jail.htmlhttp://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/11/bugging-out-ar15-vs-lever-action-rifle.htmlRegarding which gun is more politically correct, dont bother with it. Those who’s opinion does matter, military, police, rescue teams, they wont care what type of gun it is, they’ll just see a gun and react based on that. If you ever end up shooting someone and end in court, it wont matter what gun you used, you’ll go to jail or not depending on you shooting within what’s considered self-defense or not. Shoot someone the wrong way for the wrong reasons with a 30-30 and you’ll go to jail just as if you had shot him with a single shot 22LR pipe gun. http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2015/07/in-argentina-crime-does-pay-no-joke-it.htmlhttp://ferfal.blogspot.com/2015/01/life-after-economic-collapse-same-only.htmlhttp://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-scarecrow-police-car.htmlhttp://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/11/rural-crime-keeps-getting-worse-what-do.htmlhttp://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/11/life-after-economic-collapse-same-only.htmlhttp://ferfal.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/why-didnt-i-move-to-estancia-cafayate.htmlhttp://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/09/being-careful-of-scams-charlatans-and.htmlhttp://www.caseyresearch.com/articles/contrarian-view-argentinaI say "interesting" because a cursory glance into the background of this particular Argentine expat, a 30-year-old with apparently very little foreign travel experience, reveals that until recently he lived in one of the tougher barrios of Buenos Aires and made some meager income by writing a run-of-the-mill survivalist book and publishing a back-end blog designed to promote that book. While I have no question that the man's experiences are authentic, accepting his dim view – and it's a very dim view – of living in Argentina is exactly the same as reading a blog written by somebody living in a bombed-out slum in Chicago and accepting at face value that his experience is representative of what it is like to live in the United States. In the case of Argentina, dealing with the bureaucracy can be incredibly frustrating. Not so much in terms of daily interactions; for example, the odds of your being pulled over for a traffic offense are barely above zero, and transiting through airports for local flights involves minimal interference (and yes, you get to keep your shoes on).
The dealings with the government become cumbersome when trying to do business or get an official stamp on some document related to what should otherwise be a mundane activity. For example, buying a car. There are, of course, ways that you can circumvent much of this if you have a few dollars – and I'm not talking about paying a bribe, because I've never been asked for a bribe in any of my dealings in Argentina – but rather by hiring a good local attorney (or an inexpensive gofer) and letting them deal with the nuisance issues. Doug’s comments
1. It’s one thing being a citizen of a country, whereby the government considers you its property, and totally something else to be a visitor, who has to be courted to invest and spend. An Argentine (especially if he has no money) is much better off moving to another country. Whereas an American (especially if he has a few bucks) is much better off in Argentina.
2. Argentines have learned to dislike and distrust the army and the police; that’s a very good thing – unlike Chile where they love them. Most Argentineans reflect their Italian background and don’t believe in taxes. Nobody really takes the government seriously.
3. The government is very inefficient. The last thing you want is an efficient government. Especially now that the whole world is following the example of the US and is “locking down.”
4. Only poorly traveled, unsophisticated people equate the travails of the government with the standard of living for a resident non-citizen.
5. You don’t want to move to any new country and become a citizen. It’s a moving target – acting like a plant and making permanent roots in any one place is a stupid error. Don’t act like a plant – you’ll be eaten. But you must diversify your assets internationally and have a pleasant foreign crib in case the going gets tough at home.
6. Argentina has the advantage of not being involved in NATO or any foreign wars. It’s off the beaten path and out of harm’s way.
7. The fact the government has stumbled from one financial disaster to another (which has never bothered foreigners living here) just means the country is used to dealing with tough times. It’s likely to do much better than most during the Greater Depression.
8. The place is more like Europe than Europe itself at this point – ethnically and demographically. And there’s no looming religious war with Islam to be dealt with.
David again. If you want to understand Argentina (or any country, for that matter), buy a ticket, and by all means don't spend your entire holiday in Buenos Aires, unless you enjoy hanging out in big cities. Getting slanted, questionable views on the Internet about any country is no way to form an opinion about the place. Notice how Ferfal doesn't point out that Australia taxes all your income if you become a resident and contrast that with Doug Casey advice above, and note that Australia wants to own you: http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2014/10/australia-should-you-bug-out-from-first.htmlhttp://ferfal.blogspot.com/search/label/gauchosI know of a story of a foreigner in I believe Argentina who was jailed for 10 years for killing a local when it was the local's fault for running a red light: http://wikioverland.org/Peru#Driving_in_PeruAlso, given the fact that Peruvian drivers are probably the craziest in South America (my own experience), you really want to have an insurance. Beyond that, people in Peru cross roads and even motorways without properly watching out for vehicles (also my own experience), and if you hit somebody, you're in even bigger and very serious trouble. |
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OROBTC asked me a serious question in MA thread about how to plan and I gave a serious answer perhaps a bit flippant. I am seriously considering moving to a more sparsely populated area of the world. I can always travel to Asia as a tourist, but I think being in a very populated area is going to be risky as the downturn accelerates. I see police and checkpoints every 1 km here. New police academy recruits by dozens seen walking along the road. As the economy turns down here in Philippines, one will be squeezed between increasing regulations (the dumb asses here want to be like you in the West), the Asian top-down disrespect for minorities (e.g. where I live they have banned driving at night for handicapped people blind in one eye!), increased corruption and kidnappings as the economy turns down, increase petty theft and the filipino attitude of "bahala ka" (meaning it is your problem, I don't care) when they cut you off in the road, throw an object that hits you in the head, run you off the road while you are walking on the side of the road, etc.. I was here before and then during the Asian Crisis, so I saw how the place descended into a hell hole. It was during the peak of the Asian Crisis when everyone was so pissed off, that they attacked me and took my eye. Now I am handicapped because of them, and they want to take away my license to drive! If anyone is serious about pooling resources in order to purchase and provide security for a safe haven ranch in a low population area that does not tax foreign residents on foreign income, then I am interested to talk with you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_taxation#IndividualsI think who ever is serious about this needs to be thinking about making this a reality in 2016 or 2017 at the latest. I am thinking it may be better to rent and wait for clarity and the best deals (other than trophy pieces, real estate should decline in price, or at least relative to crypto price appreciation for next several years at least). Also a way to familiarize with new places before committing. I can't speak to those who have family in a Western country that they can not leave. My mother refuses to leave the USA and I love her, but I can't allow that to rule my life. Long ago I realized that my life is my life, and my mother is very independent any way. If you've got kids and you've raised them to be very close to you, and they are too tied down in their jobs, then all I can suggest if you may decide you need to have a bugout plan B. At some point, they may lose their jobs and be ready to get-out-of-Dodge too. Diversification. As for the role of the Knowledge Age and anonymous crypto-currency, this will affect each of differently depending on our skills and vocation. In my opinion, owning anonymous crypto-currency is going to be vital. The anonymity and scaling issues I've basically solved. It is just a matter of implementation and then people following the instructions. As much as possible those procedures need to be automated and made dummy-proof. This will take some time, but not too long. The main unsolved problem is how we can assure that the peer network of the crypto-currency can always function. I haven't started to tackle this problem yet. I think first one needs to have a lot of capital and then start to work on solutions, such a HAM and shortwave radio as backup for the existing internet infrastructure. These low bandwidth backups are why we will need a new design for the peer network such that all the transactions don't have to be relayed to the block chain in order to be confirmed. That is what my design accomplishes, so we'd already be ready for those communications improvements. My plea is we need to stop competing over who was on first base and just accept that we need to implement what we need to implement. And get 'er done. We'll all benefit according to our contribution to the solutions we need. May the chips fall where they may according to a meritocracy. |
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(Your quote is now a misquote.)
You are noisy. Filters applied. |
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-- How correct would our amigo " TPTB_need_war" be about the various wrinkles coming down the pike?
-- How do families (vs. single or DINKs) fit into this relative to each other (kids slow you down, but are the best legacy)?
-- How does a Knowledge Age work out with a 10%-er (best guess as to where I am at)?
-- Etc. You get my point though. A complex set of calculations & assumptions to review, ponder, collate and act upon...
For me it is looking relatively simple. My gf said she is ready to head off to South America when ever I am ready. If I need guys with guns to protect my ranch, she has three brothers, an able father, and lots of male relatives. As for planting babies and dogs, she is "can we start now". Lucky for me, several countries in South America don't require a visa for filipinos. Most filipinos do not know this. Pssst. Don't tell them. Parents of a child born in a jus soil country (all South American countries) qualify for immediate citizenship. That is my Plan B. Still looking at other options. I'd love to stay in overpopulated, dynamic Asia, but with war and pandemics (and even a Little Ice Age after 2032) on the horizon, this 18,000 acres for $690,000 looks better to me. Soon Uncle Sam can kiss my ass good bye. If he wants to find me, he can come chase me through the Andes mountains on foot. Geronimo still lives (I have Cherokee blood and I can feel it) and he won't surrender alive as even the original lamented he should have never done (to die as some caged circus attraction). Be aware, South America is very dangerous. Muggings are very common. Even rural attacks are sometimes reported. This is not for Europeans who are accustomed to walking around unarmed. And getting a license to carry a firearm in South America is difficult and if you shoot someone, it will always be your fault no matter the circumstances. The people are quite socialist. So before you leap, make sure you know what the fuck you are doing (or don't and don't care what the fuck you are doing, lol). Edit: the way the Knowledge Age and anonymous crypto fits into this for me, is I can keep all my money and work with me where ever I am, even on the tip of a mountain in Chile, using a satellite internet connection. I can be productive while the idiots socialists are killing each other over in the populated world. I can return to the population world after the culling is complete. Hey they are doing it to themselves! Not my problem, nor my fault. I offer them anonymous solutions, but some of them would prefer to die. |
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whoah I didnt know it was that corrupt.
I prefer this small time corruption to the bankster level totalitarianism we Westerners are going to be dealing with. We Westerners get burdened with the really seriously life threatening shit. Small corruption is good because we can use grease money to get around the laws the banksters want enforced. I hope Greece and Argentina can remain so corrupt that the government can't collect taxes effectively. Got to love the Italians (Argentina) and the Greeks (except when your farm pump needs a new imported part then you are forking out an arm and a leg to get it imported). Manila was horrendous in the 1990s. As a drunk 26-year old they somehow managed to even separate me from my gold stud earring one night. But I didn't care. I was getting laid left and right. I remember in a small beach resort they sneaking in through a trap door to try to extricate my luggage while I was in the middle of the act with the opposite sex (I think  lol, them asian ladyboys are very convincing). Ah the fond memories of the adventure, chaos, parties, etc...  |
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(non-)solution
That you decline to acknowledge a "solution" as being such does not render it a "(non-)solution". That is why I placed the "non-" in parenthesis to acknowledge it is my opinion. |
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The reason MA is defying logic is because he loves people so much. http://www.armstrongeconomics.com/archives/35677I do too. But it doesn't change the logic. I can love people without thinking I can change what is natural. It just is. Accept it. |
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