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5981  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interesting video discussion on bitcoin (youtube) on: September 10, 2012, 02:20:02 PM
http://austrianeconomics.wikia.com/wiki/Deflation

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Deflation can cause a fall in prices. But calling falling prices "deflation" is a profound confusion between prosperity and depression. There are two distinct causes of generally falling prices. The leading cause of falling prices is economic progress, whose essential feature is an increasing production and supply of goods and services, which operates to make prices fall. The other is a decrease in the quantity of money and or volume of spending in the economic system. Falling prices is the only effect that they have in common. They differ profoundly with respect to their other effects.

"I'm so sick of evidence constantly contradicting my beliefs. Can't you people stop replying on empericism and just believe me in spite of all proof to the contrary?"

Learn some semblance of what causes prices and get back to me. Until then, consider yourself owned.
Since you're such an expert on these things perhaps you can explain why prices would fall in a Bitcoin economy and whether this would more closely resemble the prosperity situation or the depression situation? While you're at it, can you explain the mechanism that makes falling prices good in some situations and bad in other situations?
5982  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are people over-reacting on MNW's bet? on: September 10, 2012, 01:20:21 AM
It's a bit troublesome though when a portion of the community rallies behind that kind of behavior, time and time again.
There is a type of person who desperately wants a path to easy wealth. This person doesn't want to start a business, invent something, or develop a marketable skill - they just want to "invest" in the right thing and have it explode in value so they can cash out. The kind of person I'm talking about is so desperate they have no problem suspending disbelief if somebody comes by telling them what they want to hear regardless of how warning signs are apparent.

Many of these kinds of people are attracted to alternative currencies and precious metals, and wherever they go they attract scammers like chum attracts sharks.
5983  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interesting video discussion on bitcoin (youtube) on: September 10, 2012, 12:27:46 AM
"I'm so sick of evidence constantly contradicting my beliefs. Can't you people stop replying on empericism and just believe me in spite of all proof to the contrary?"
5984  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interesting video discussion on bitcoin (youtube) on: September 09, 2012, 11:57:26 PM
Deflation is terrible - that's why the computer (and consumer industry in general) is doing so badly compared to the rest of the economy because of the enormous deflation in electronics.

Nobody buys anything because there will always be something better in six months and it's impossible for any company in the sector to make a profit.

Deflation is a nightmare. Consumers and produders alike are much better served by constant price inflation. The healthcare and higher education industries understand this which is why people are so much more satisfied with the products of those industries than they are with electronics.
5985  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will you ever buy a Bitcoin Magazine issue again? on: September 09, 2012, 06:38:21 PM
My decision to buy or not buy more copies of Bitcoin Magazine will depend only on how much I like #2 and #3 when they finally arrive.
5986  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Where Matthew Failed in His bet on: September 09, 2012, 06:36:09 PM
Considering how relaxed most people have been, in regards to Trendon Shavers aka Pirateat40 (causing most of my frustration) I find Matthew's situation to be a bit 'scape-goatish' under the circumstances.

Does Matthew really deserve to be punished to the extent he currently is being punished ?
In the original bet thread Matthew offered up his own reputation as collateral.

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Anyone (including myself) who renigs on their bets will be labeled a scammer on the forums. Theymos will retain the IP addresses of everyone who has committed here and as you are marked a scammer for not paying, you will also be reported to the bitcoin police and tracked. For this reason, it is important that you do not bet more than you can afford to lose. Considering the high probability of fraud from newbie sockpuppets, only established 250+ post users will be allowed to participate, unless they participate through an escrow who will hold their coins. This is up to them to find the escrow although many posters in this thread have agreed to act as such.

His reputation is his own to enhance or squander, so if he decides to cheapen it I'm going to honor his choice.
5987  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitinstant brokering extortion threats? on: September 09, 2012, 03:50:34 AM
A metaphor is like a penis in an ashtray--you never know who let the bacon burn.

How did I do?  Grin
You are an metaphor hero.
5988  Other / Politics & Society / Re: AnCap~Organized crime? on: September 09, 2012, 03:46:51 AM
When people who aren't deliberately trolling describe volentarism as being violent it's typically because they recognize the inherent brutality of modern society but have to project it onto "anarchy" for psychological reasons.

What we have now is lawlessness and the rule of organized crime. The violence that people fear so much when you talk about a stateless society is the violence they live in fear of every day but can't/won't acknowledge.
5989  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitinstant brokering extortion threats? on: September 09, 2012, 01:56:16 AM
According to Matt's own words he is involved in every existing bitcoin company Cheesy

Needs citation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106497.msg1169927#msg1169927
5990  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) on: September 08, 2012, 06:29:42 AM
In the event that you do not pay up Sunday, I would refuse to fund an organization that is directly involved with you. If you do pay out the $650K+ in bets, I will apologize for misjudging your character, and I"ll be heading to B&N to pick up my first copy of Bitcoin Magazine.
I would refuse to fund an organization that is directly involved with you.

I'm not sure if there are any bitcoin businesses not directly involved with me. Guess you'll be leaving bitcoin then.
5991  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why I trust Patrick Harnett on: September 08, 2012, 04:21:22 AM
Joel... you're being an argumentative asshole.
Yet nobody will answer his very simple question. The only responses have been evasions, smokescreens, and personal attacks.
5992  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Romney's tax returns - first Bitcoin extortion? on: September 08, 2012, 03:14:46 AM
How exactly does someone with a very active company "dissapear" with $250,000 in this community's money? With that kind of money on the line why hasn't someone gone out to visit the cork socker?

I realize a lot of the people might need to borrow mom's car but certainly SOMEONE would have done this by now?
I don't live very far from McKinney so it would be very easy for me to drive over there and investigate some of the addresses that have been floating around, but since I never put any money into his scheme I don't really have any reason to.
5993  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: It's Laissez-Fair on: September 08, 2012, 02:57:17 AM
I don't think Bitcoin needs a slogan any more than a technology like SATA needs a slogan.

If a company needs to promote Bitcoin to get customers instead of promoting what they can do which their non Bitcoin-using competators can't that actually doesn't reflect well on the premise that Bitcoin is a disruptive technology which enables new business opportunities.

The majority of people don't care about the underlying technology as an end to itself - they care about what the technology can do for them. So a payment processor should advertise that it offers risk-free, instant payments from customers located anywhere in the world because that's what people who are selling things online care about. A gambling site can advertise based on its payout ratios, provable fairness, and the ability for people anywhere in the world to participate regardless of exclusionary rules set up by local cartels, because that's what gamblers care about.

Bitcoin itself hardly needs to be mentioned at all.
5994  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin a scam? on: September 08, 2012, 01:12:07 AM
if i were calpers i'd sell now.  this chump is bound to dump.
They can't - their actuarial projections required 7% annual returns forever in order to fund the promised benefits. Now to make up for the losses they have to go chasing returns even higher than 7%. It will never work but they and a lot of other public sector pensions are going to keep playing the game until they blow up.
5995  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin a scam? on: September 08, 2012, 12:51:57 AM
my point is that all that volatility from those 3 crashes, 2 stock 1 housing, caused pensions and 401K holders to cough up their long positions right at the wrong time.  hardly a wealth preserver.
I never claimed they were competent, just that they were reacting to political pressure.

CALPERS is still bankrupt but by getting the primary dealers to prop up the stock market with money borrowed from the Fed the current crop of politicians got at least one extra election cycle before the cash flow dries up.
5996  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin a scam? on: September 08, 2012, 12:09:03 AM
i should also add that when banksters get to borrow at 0% interest, they turn around and distort markets to a horrendous degree like we have today.  the entire world's economies are going into recession and yet they ramp stock and bond markets in the name of "price stability".  bullshit.  the only price stability they want is for their investments that they've gone all in with and are terrified to actually have marked to market by free markets.  nevermind the price of gold, silver, oil, foodstuffs; the things the rest of us need to survive.
The stock market is being propped up with printed money to save the public sector pension funds primarily and the 401k accounts of the baby boomers secondarily. It's all about political pull and buying votes.

so why didn't they do that in 2000 and 2008?
They did. The housing bubble was the mechanism for the 2000 crash and the various programs which have brought the stock market back up since the 2009 low were how they did it this time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/02/opinion/dubya-s-double-dip.html
5997  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin a scam? on: September 07, 2012, 11:58:08 PM
i should also add that when banksters get to borrow at 0% interest, they turn around and distort markets to a horrendous degree like we have today.  the entire world's economies are going into recession and yet they ramp stock and bond markets in the name of "price stability".  bullshit.  the only price stability they want is for their investments that they've gone all in with and are terrified to actually have marked to market by free markets.  nevermind the price of gold, silver, oil, foodstuffs; the things the rest of us need to survive.
The stock market is being propped up with printed money to save the public sector pension funds primarily and the 401k accounts of the baby boomers secondarily. It's all about political pull and buying votes.
5998  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Have you purchased your copy of Bitcoin Magazine Issue #3 at Barnes & Noble yet? on: September 07, 2012, 11:48:49 PM
Who do I talk to about never receiving issues 2 and 3 that I bought in June?
5999  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Depositors insurance? on: September 07, 2012, 11:26:35 PM
I would say your monthly cost deposit demo was missing 2 (or more variables) variables:
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[(the average amount of bitcoins a depositor will lose at a particular institution during the next 10 years)/120 + (insurance company operating costs and profits) + "(Internal) Scams" + "(Internal) Partners" + ...]

The end result of insurance is always the same a majority ends up pay for a minority, the minority ether has some really bad luck or more likely is trying to scam the system one way or a other. Insurance fraud schemes are older then the banking system it's self, the scam where possible before banks excited and got even easier after banks where introduced.
Since the fraud drives the up price there would be less of it in a free market because there would be no laws forcing people to buy. Mandatory insurance laws effectively subsidize the fraud.
6000  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Use of countries to grab more entropy for brain wallets on: September 07, 2012, 08:26:46 PM
The biggest concern I have with using a brain wallet is chance of forgetting the passphrase.

In order to get high entropy you needs a unique phrase that does not appear anywhere in media, literature or popular culture. How easy is that to remember for long periods of time, especially if you don't compromise security by writing it down? Surely no one would use a brain wallet for addresses which they frequently withdraw from, so how would one remember a random set of words accurately across a period of years?
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