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5981  Economy / Gambling / Re: ➫ ➬ ➫ ➬ LUCKYB.IT ★ +1.5M bets ★ +73k BTC wagered on: July 21, 2015, 09:13:00 AM
please feature 2 or more promo contest winners, because we want wider range of playing, even though it has risk to the site, it doesn't a matter - house edge.
please help.

+1 on adding another promo line.
Also, I don't see any risk to the site. They just need to generate a new vanity address, and slightly modify their site layout and code.

You forgot to take into account that having more than 1 promo line will only give less exposure for the promo line thus will generate lower profit for it too. Therefore it will be the same in the end because to maximize it, the site will need to give a longer time for the promo line. There will be longer rotation to a new promo line as well, people will get bored with the line. Also that it is not easy to put in another line there as stated above
5982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you expect from dice sites? on: July 21, 2015, 08:34:35 AM

Those was a silly mistakes from the house and no one realized that until few weeks ago. You cant compare that sites with dice sites in moneypot. For a new sites to prove themselves, time is the only thing that needed. People here are not too "friendly" to give a chance to a new dice sites ( this is a fact, look at some new dice sites with potential here ) despite how good the site are therefore with moneypot things are going smoother because no one need to trust the new site owner since every funds will be getting in and out from moneypot
5983  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBOOK RANKINGS ~ USER GENERATED & MOST ACCURATE (PLEASE CONTRIBUTE) on: July 21, 2015, 08:34:24 AM
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directbet has lowest odds, cloudbet has highest odds, I prefer more money with worse services, less money with good support is not important for me,

For some people who used to bet a high amount, they prefer higher odds however for some mediocre like who bet a small amount to for fun then the small difference of the odds isnt really a matter. What matter the most will be support services , a great one that refunded me when there is a stress test ( I have to wait for days to receive my winning and they give 100 % of it back with higher fees, so 2x winning amount )
Therefore this thread is correct, it based on user experienced and it is clear enough from the rating that more people are having a goodtime with DirectBet. Not to mention that this thread was created in early 2014 and back then Directbet was still giving a good odds if you compare it to few other sportsbook
5984  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is the Chinese mentality so risky? on: July 20, 2015, 11:55:15 PM
I dont exactly get what you are trying to say but you do need to read that I dont even understand what do you mean about the words "do" / "did" and such, wonder what it means
Some people values technology and it is not about solely making profit from it but for the chinese things are different because what they need is not a technology but how to get profit , basically this means how to get profit even if it from rubbish and stuff
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You got a few wrong points :

#1. Mentality and culture is two different things and literally different
#2. Im not your friend

The word rubbish literally means rubbish . If you would to propose something/technology to a chinese investor then the words that you should use will be the return of their investment otherwise you wont get any of their funds and it doesnt matter if you create a super machine but you cant get them profit for their investment
5985  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 20, 2015, 11:55:10 PM
soo invest is the best way

Depends on what you mean by the words "way" . It actually depends on how you want to "keep" your money. Some people just love to keep them for the sake of security and some people "keep" them in a way to get more . Not everyone is into investing because you are exposing your funds into something with higher risk. Saving on the other hands is exposing your funds to risk as well however the risk is pretty much smaller if you compare it to investing
5986  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♛ BitCasino.IO - 700+ games / 63,900+ BTC Jackpot / MICROGAMING, NETENT, BETSOFT on: July 20, 2015, 07:32:30 PM
How to verify the bet status because i did not find any link to verify my bet status

Please do read a page back, this has been asked and discussed . There is no way for you to verify your own bet because this site is not using provably fair mechanism. All you need to know is the game is using NETENT and the other stuff ( dont know if this means anything ) so the site is "fair" according to the game provider



Off topic : I find this funny for someone like you that ditched provably fair weeks ago in plinkopot to ask about provably fair things here. Guess nature change huh
5987  Economy / Gambling / Re: **Tournaments Daily!** TappaBit.com | A NEW PvP Social MINI Game on: July 20, 2015, 07:23:35 PM
You are playing a bad game , removing signature and reassigning ? You should give a penalty for this. Very bad . Such a fast switch of signatures may influence my reputation.

He made the right decision because basically it is pointless to keep the signature campaign if the site is inactive and on the brink of closure due to the exploit. Almost every site owner would do the same if they are on the brink of closure because continuing the campaign will be the same as wasting resources and ever since the owner has found a way to patch the exploit, therefore he resumed the campaign and there is nothing wrong with that
5988  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game on: July 20, 2015, 03:59:29 PM
We can't add funds for people that were unable to withdraw and lost their balance by betting. These funds were already credited to investors. However we have noticed the increase of highrollers and activity and will increase the hot wallet size in order for it to be able to handle more. There's also players that continued to bet and won. These people have not been in a hurry to send back any wins that they "shouldn't" have won.  Roll Eyes


Am I reading this sentences correctly that it seems the PR of SatoshiDice seem to be mocking the players ? Whoever posted this should be fired because A huge gambling site like SatoshiDice shouldnt be using such a bad wordings like this. Basically this wordings indicates that the house had absolute zero fault on this and blame it all to the player.This "error" is in fact because of the house and the house should compensate it but rather what I am seeing is that the PR is mocking the players and blaming them.
5989  Economy / Gambling / Re: dice.playcoinflip.com -->> Free BTC every 120s on: July 20, 2015, 01:42:37 PM
Maybe the OP doesn't want to use moneypot(or depend on another site)

It seems that you dont understand what am I saying. Dan's untitled dice isnt tied with moneypot and it is just like another dice script out there. Someone even used it to create a faucet site like freebitco.in and there is no restriction that you must use that script along with moneypot though

BTW maybe they got a free copy intended for testing or something while there was scam accusation against coindice script and its maker(forgot his name).

A copy or not, the script is full of bug and it will be just a matter of time when you will see someone betting low amount with high multiplier and win it, totally not real
5990  Economy / Gambling / Re: dice.playcoinflip.com -->> Free BTC every 120s on: July 20, 2015, 01:08:32 PM
It seems apart from noticing the faucet error and rabbling some sarcasm about dice sites is here to steal your money ( which is true ),  no one realized the irregularity at the OP? The OP seems to be a copy paste from satoshidice . It is not even an on-chain game though and the max multiplier is 9900x not 64,000x

References : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77870.msg865877#msg865877

Bet options are available with up to 64,000x

To play, you just send coins to any of the listed addresses based on the odds you want.

Remember to do this only from wallets that let you receive coins from the address you sent them from (standard wallet, or blockchain.info wallet, both work great -

Another part that makes me want to laugh is that why is there still someone using a coindice script which is proven to be buggy and it is expensive while on the other hand there is Dan's Untitled Dice script https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1062680.0
5991  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io Bitcoin Casino ★VIP★15% Affiliate Bonus PLINKO|DICE|HORSE RACING on: July 20, 2015, 08:52:32 AM
Btw can we claim this every time? Or just once?

There is no restriction to this and a single person can claim all of the bounty if he/she manage to get all of the bounty listed above . Also due note that this is absolutely +EV to players considering that you will be given some bits to roll, you dont have to deposit on your own to get this bounty !



Congratulations to User Amiryagot for rolling 77.77 , too bad he didnt wager the minimum amount according to the rules ! On the other hand, no one grab any of it yet so be sure to check while its hot !
5992  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinRush.io - Zero-House-Edge Multiplayer Games, Faucets, and Bitcoin Casino! on: July 20, 2015, 08:51:30 AM
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That is pretty hard I guess, to get 15 winning streak is not possible, you must have at least one time lose. Btw did we lose all the wager if we lose on the player? Lets say we are on #14 so we lose everything?

No you are totally wrong on this and you need to read it carefully. As I have stated you will need to win by playing with the other player. This is not some sort of tournament or a rally play for 15x but rather a simple math calculation to show that you can win to over 1 BTC considering you wager all of it and win ( people keep on getting misperception about that missleading words )
5993  Economy / Gambling / Re: ToTheMoon.me | Invest into the Bankroll of Social gambling site on: July 20, 2015, 08:10:39 AM
I am not entirely familiar with your thought process here. I would think that if earnings have been accused, but not yet paid, then the value of the shares should be greater. I am not following the double dip theory.

NXT asset is tradeable ( isnt it? )which means if the volume pick up in the future and profit keep on increasing then there is a chance that the value of the shares will be higher which means if you purchase a share for 1BTC right now and the value increase by 1.1 BTC in 3 months timeframe (which is 6 x 2 weeks period ) then you are getting a share of profit while your initial capital has raised by 0.1 BTC

I will try it, maybe. 1 BTC is no problem but how does it work? I invest and when someone win big I lose / when someone lose big I win?

How does what work? isnt it clear in the OP already? Like every other gambling sites works, the net profit ( there is a cut for promotions and faucet expenses as well ) of the house within 2 weeks period will be splitted among the share holder . Every lost is counted as a profit for the site
5994  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinRush.io - Zero-House-Edge Multiplayer Games, Faucets, and Bitcoin Casino! on: July 20, 2015, 06:07:44 AM
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 Btw I saw you guys saying about winning 1.4 just to play 15 and have a straight winning streak. How that supposed to be. Can you guys please explain it to me?


There is a simple missleading wordings there because it does not actually means 15x winning streak by playing with the bot but rather 15x winning from players after you win from the bot however this idea is not yet feasible at the moment because this is just a simple math without taking into account about the user since it will be hard to find someone to bet huge amount with ( well atleast for now )

#1   Win from bots = 0.1 mBTC
#2   Wager all in of 0.1 mBTC, if win = 0.2 mBTC
#3   Wager all in of 0.2 mBTC, if win = 0.4 mBTC
#4   Wager all in of 0.4 mBTC, if win = 0.8 mBTC
#5   Wager all in of 0.8 mBTC, if win = 1.6 mBTC
#6   Wager all in of 1.6 mBTC, if win = 3.2 mBTC
#7   Wager all in of 3.2 mBTC, if win = 6.4 mBTC
#8   Wager all in of 6.4 mBTC, if win = 12.8 mBTC
#9   Wager all in of 12.8 mBTC, if win = 25.6 mBTC
#10 Wager all in of 25.6 mBTC, if win = 51.2 mBTC
#11 Wager all in of 51.2 mBTC, if win = 102.4 mBTC
#12 Wager all in of 102.4 mBTC, if win = 204.8 mBTC
#13 Wager all in of 204.8 mBTC, if win = 409.6 mBTC
#14 Wager all in of 409.6 mBTC, if win = 819.2 mBTC
#15 Wager all in of 819.2 mBTC, if win = 1638.4 mBTC

Total of 15 rounds to get over 1.4 BTC

5995  Economy / Gambling / Re: ToTheMoon.me | Invest into the Bankroll of Social gambling site on: July 20, 2015, 06:00:00 AM
The calculation will be the same no matter how many micro investor there are because in the end everyone will share the profit or the loss of the house which is proportional to his stake of the bankroll (assuming it is 1x kelly for everyone). The reason for not accepting any micro investor could be that the share of profit seem to be calculated manually now (?) ( I could be wrong on this ) unlike the other sites therefore having micro investor isnt feasible for the moment
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Also you can potentially sell less then 1 BTC worth of the bankroll on the NXT AE, potentially for more then the portion of the bankroll you are selling (potentially sell .5 BTC worth of bankroll for .51 or more)

Good thing about using NXT AE rather than a simple BTC investing is that the share will be tradeable thus you are getting double dip of profit whenever the site is taking a huge profit (some sort of like HAVELOCK)
Things that preventing me from investing would be the nasty commission of 40 % and now there is a cut from faucet and promotions but I would lay down low for a fraction of the asset just for the sake of tryout if it tradeable later on but the question will be when?

(Variant C: Later you will be able to buy the asset directly on the asset exchange, but not at start.)

I would speculate that those people would make up a large share of the bankroll.

Indeed disencouraging micro investor will make up a larger share of the bankroll however on the same that means it bear more risk as well

It's obvious,just projecting data to make some comparisons

No, you are not projecting anything because whatever number that you come up with is based on assumption and speculation therefore that is a bogus data. If you want to make a projection then you should start from the main factor which is house edge. Take the data of the profit gained and Take the house edge as well as the wagered data per 2 weeks period and make a comparison to the profit gained theoritically
5996  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN going up or down on: July 20, 2015, 01:05:34 AM
For a month, look at the bitcoin price ONLY Monday mornings. Write the prices

Why do you even do this when there is a chart to help you? You can easily get last week's price with this https://bitcoinwisdom.com/

If it drops by $200, then there will be a mass buying of them

Unless you can see the future then this is a bogus statement. If you take alook back to January you can actually remember that the price was dropped below $180 and yet there isnt any "mass buying" but rather it is climbing up slowly. It was a horrible crash for the starting of 2015 and people said that it is going to be a bad year for BTC but here we are at the current price after 6 months. Same thing of those in 2013 as no one ever imagined/dreamed that the price gonna reach $1200 in such a short time though

P.S : my main point is that, the future is really unpredictable as anything could happen
5997  Economy / Gambling / Re: ToTheMoon.me | Invest into the Bankroll of Social gambling site on: July 20, 2015, 12:45:42 AM
There will be less people who will end up investing, thus whatever a person who has a lot of money to invest will have a larger share of the bankroll, and thus a larger return (EV)

The calculation will be the same no matter how many micro investor there are because in the end everyone will share the profit or the loss of the house which is proportional to his stake of the bankroll (assuming it is 1x kelly for everyone). The reason for not accepting any micro investor could be that the share of profit seem to be calculated manually now (?) ( I could be wrong on this ) unlike the other sites therefore having micro investor isnt feasible for the moment
5998  Economy / Gambling / Re: ToTheMoon.me | Invest into the Bankroll of Social gambling site on: July 20, 2015, 12:33:16 AM
That's a 200% ROI in a year wow!

Totally wrong on this, you cant based a 2 weeks uptime for the projection of the yearly performance. You should note that the thing of investing in a gambling site is risky in nature as a whale might be able to drain some of the bankroll and thus leaving zero profit for the two weeks period but given the high house edge, the house will survive in long term though

Any investment, small or big, will only increase the bankroll... is not it ?

Yes.



A quick question, will there be still a cut to the investor if by any chance there is zero profit for the two weeks period?
5999  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is the Chinese mentality so risky? on: July 19, 2015, 11:47:04 PM
They have the nature to be hardworking to strive for profit therefore Its not about the technology that driven them it is mainly profit. Basically anything that could make profit for them will be taken into their target despite that it is a nontech things or such.

If you would to compare A and B which A is a rubbish and B is the future technology then whichever could get them a profit would be their choice despite that it is a rubbish or a future technology

But this is what anybody in another culture does. That is not solely just for theirs.
If something is not done for a profit then why would anyone do it, for free?  Roll Eyes

I dont exactly get what you are trying to say but you do need to read that I dont even understand what do you mean about the words "do" / "did" and such, wonder what it means
Some people values technology and it is not about solely making profit from it but for the chinese things are different because what they need is not a technology but how to get profit , basically this means how to get profit even if it from rubbish and stuff
6000  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBOOK RANKINGS ~ USER GENERATED & MOST ACCURATE (PLEASE CONTRIBUTE) on: July 19, 2015, 11:34:09 PM
This is not a secret anymore that Directbet has the lowest odd if you compare it with any sportbook around here . There has been already many complaints about this in their thread however the rating isnt based on solely the odds for the game , there are different factors that come into account .
For example it will be their support service, now you can try to contact the other sportsbook around here and see how fast they resolve your issue and then you can compare it with DIrectbet, there will be a major satisfaction level there !

I see tonnes of people commenting about Directbet's great service, but why are so many people having to contact them in the first place? I went months at Cloudbet before contacting them for the first time, and in over a year of using them have only contacted them twice.

No one is "commenting" about their support service but it is a fact and btw whats your point is? I cant seem to get what your point is though you cant based your own experiences on how ofter you are contacting the cloudbet's support because you dont even know how many people are they handling each day. If you are aware about the recent issue in cloudbet you will see how funny/unproffesional they are dealing with the issue of an ex betvip's player

References : - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.msg11885202#msg11885202
                  - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.msg11897957#msg11897957

Due note that I dont mean anything about making this into DirectBet vs Cloudbet support or the other sportsbook however as I have stated since this rating is based on user's experience, the rating varies and there is nothing to argue about it. You can always play at your beloved sportsbook despite that they dont have a 5' rating here
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