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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 12, 2017, 09:25:02 AM
The concept of this project is great, good idea that your project is against of the volatility but most of the users used the volatility to earn good profit, my question is how do you deal with the exchange? if your coin is quite stable i do not think more traders used our coin for trading method which is one of the main target of more ico.

The good thing is we hold X8C for long period of time because as i read in white paper and i believed that this coin is very safe to invest.

The intent behind X8C is safety as stability as you pointed out. Traders on exchanges will be exiting and entering X8C according to their fear of losses and need for hedge. There will also be possibility of arbitrage as our company will alway issue X8C at fair value to the X8X token holders while X8C will be subjected to market forces on exchanges. In TGE only X8X tokens will be issued and these can be volatile as they are backed by nothing and function as licences to zero-fee trading with X8C. You can read more about our two tokens at https://www.ionectar.com/x8-project-token-model/
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 11, 2017, 11:20:31 PM
X8X — Key to Crypto Safe Haven
How safe are your Crypto Assets? Do you have a proper exit strategy to avoid potential losses?
X8 Project developed a double token model for preservation of your value.



Remember the Dot-Com and USA Housing Bubbles? When you notice investors with little to no
trading skills buying an asset, not for its fundamental value, but only because they plan to
(quickly) sell it later, at a much higher price, you are probably looking at an investment bubble
in progress. Sounds familiar? Similar patterns can be observed on current Crypto markets,
that show a great similarity to overheated economies from the past.


What does it mean for your crypto investments? If you are a Bitcoin, Ether or some Coin/Token holder,
you are probably well aware of their volatility — the value of your crypto-portfolio can change rapidly.
When the markets start to crash, the most straightforward exit strategy is a conversion of your crypto
assets to fiat currency (USD, EUR) on some Online Exchange. The X8 Project is proposing an alternative,
a conversion to the X8Currency Token, the closest thing to fiat on the crypto market.


X8Currency is not only representing one fiat currency at a 1:1 exchange ratio, but is composed of and
100% backed with 8 fiat currencies and physical gold. X8C is exchangeable for each of the 8 fiat currencies
 directly at the issuer, X8 Capital AG, a Swiss based company that safeguard all backing assets under
the supervision of Swiss regulators. Fiat assets and gold funds are actively managed by Automatic Reserve
Management, a proven and tested software designed to minimize risk and to preserve value.

What does it means for you? Converting to X8Currency gives you:

stability of value due to dispersion of backing fiat assets,

security as X8C Tokens are exchangeable on demand to any of 8 fiat currencies at the issuer and

portability, as X8C Tokens will be tradeable on Online Exchanges and easily transacted from
one Exchange to another. You can build your own fiat exit for the Exchanges, that do not offer fiat conversions or withdrawals,

liquidity, as all the underlying assets are 100% convertible.

X8Currency minting and conversion to fiat at the issuer will only be available to holders of the utility token X8X,
which acts as a ticket for X8 Capital AG services. X8X Tokens will be available on a crowdsale, enabling owners
to convert their crypto assets and fiat to X8Currency and back without fees.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 11, 2017, 05:26:07 PM
I signed up for the whitelist because I do believe in your project and I see a huge potential here, being in the world of cryptocurrency for almost 2 years now, I do think that volatility is both a blessing and a curse, it has its advantages and it also has its disadvantages and it has been part of the cyrpto world ever since the beginning but it's nice to have a cryptocurrency that's quite stable and is not giving you any fear that you might lose all your money at the end of the day so when I read about your project I really got attracted by the fact that you're offering a cryptocurrency that's safe and secure and its main goal is to fight volatility. I read your whitepaper and I'm quite impressed to be honest, I really like the way your project works, I like the fact that you're incorporating an Artificial Intelligence to find the best exchange rates to preserve the value of this project for a long period of time, reading that is striking, but I think it will be best if there's a demonstration on how your AI works, so that people will have an assurance that it will really work the way that its supposed to and I also do like to comment on your roadmap, it seems like you have already raised a minimum cap, can I ask how much you have raised so far through private placement? And I also have another question in your whitepaper there are 2 tokens X8X and the X8C, during the token generation event participants will get the utility token right? So when will we able to trade it to X8C token? And you also mention that the X8C token will be burned? Can you explain further on that? Sorry if I'm asking too many questions I'm just really interested with this project so I really want to understand and know more.


Thank you for the comment and the questions. Do not hesitate to ask questions.
The running performance of the ARM AI is operating on behalf of financial insitutions. These institutions are not inclined to reveal their realtime financial performance to third parties. In fact a release of such details would be illegal due to laws governing confidentiality. However, there is a written reference on the website from a financial institution of NZ. It would of course be useful to be able to share all this information but the very nature of the industry prohibits that until these figures are published in the annual reports of the institutions concerned then we cannot divulge them.
We raised just over 1 mil in the fiat presale.
You are right, TGE will issue X8X utility tokens. X8C will be issued shortly after the TGE. At first we believed it would take up to 90 days to install everything, now we know it can be much sooner. Since X8C cannot exist without full backing the redeemed tokens are of no use, hence they will be burned.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 11, 2017, 09:31:17 AM
Interesting Stuff Dev

Are you going to have a Bounty Campaign for this project.
I did not see a link yet.

Will be keeping a close eye on this one
Those helping us in campaign are not getting paid in our tokens. If we decide to run a bounty campaign we will inform the community and paste links here as well.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 09, 2017, 09:05:52 PM
How do I know you are not running  a fractional reserve system? It would be easier guess...
An independent institution JP Fund SA will be performing daily monitoring. They will also push all the data on blockchain. Additionally, there will be an option of  a special audit for a fee.
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 09, 2017, 07:26:11 PM
Have been looking at this project since the cfi times. Sound really really nice. A better stable coin will help the whole crypto space.

Just one thing I didn't manage to look at till now. Have you actually gottean any active proof of the AI behind X8C? That would blow this out of proportions.

Thank you for the support.

Our Automatic Reserve Management AI that actively manages the basket of assets backing X8C has been developed for the better part of the last 10 years. From that is has also been tested in real markets and used on a real trading account operated by a third party. From that a reference letter has also been issued that confirms the chart shown on our website.

67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 09, 2017, 06:48:27 PM
Is this like USDT but with many currencies? And can you exit into any one of them?
X8currency is a bit like it only at first glance. There are major differences. Not only is it backed by 8 currencies and gold instead of just by one. The basket is actively managed by AI. There will also be great progress in terms of transparency ad safety. You can read about it more at https://www.ionectar.com/x8currency-adresses-the-matters-of-security-and-transparency/
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 09, 2017, 04:21:44 AM
0% fees swapping from crypto <> FIAT is quite attractive but is this likely to change at some stage or is it going to be permanent?

Will any other major currencies be supported for entry/exit or just the top two?

It is going to be permanent, but that only applies if you are using it at X8 AG. If you you are trading X8X or X8C on other exchanges you are under their rules.

Top 8 world currencies are going to be supported and also gold.
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 08, 2017, 10:06:06 PM
what are you doing here? what is this project about? I see the colorful charts, pictures but... what is the purpose of your project? you'd better to renew more description and make more clear
The purpose of our project is to bring a stable currency (X8C) to crypto and traditional finance. For this goal we are using AI to actively manage a basket of 8 currencies and gold. All this is embedded in Swiss financial infrastructure to supplement stability by safety.
Our TGE will issue a limited amount of utility tokens (X8X) that will grant holders smooth and fast access to everything X8C has to offer. Also important is the fact that we have worked hard to stick to regulation guidance of Swiss FINMA. Ths is it in a nutshell. Feel free to inquire further or visit our blog at https://www.ionectar.com/x-feed/
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 08, 2017, 12:23:45 PM
hi sir, how does this project work? i want to know the information . thanks

Hello and welcome to the project. A short overview of the project would be that we are releasing two tokens - X8X and X8C.

X8X is a utility token that functions as a key to the issuance and exchange process of X8C with 0% fee.

X8Currency (X8C) on the other hand is the heart of the project. It is a stable token, 100% backed by 8 different fiat currencies (like EUR, USD, etc.) and gold coins. The mentioned basket is actively managed by Automatic Reserve Management AI.

That would be a short overview. You can find more information on our website and in our TGE whitepaper.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 08, 2017, 12:03:26 PM
I think it is very risky to work with the volatile market, but it may be interesting since we are going through a phase where the cryptomoedas are getting very well known might be that right.

I hope that risk management of portfolio and cryptografia x8c really help with the volatility

X8C will actually not include any crypto holding for now. It will be backed by 8 different fiat currencies and gold coins. Due to its diversified structure and active management of the basket by ARM AI, volatility is kept to a minimum. That results in a creation of a stable coin, unique to other already existing.

A presence of an effective stable token on the market should also have a good impact oh the whole crypto environment.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 08, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
This Automatic Reserve Management AI will be like a platform where we will have access? I didn't see the team behind the project so I would like to know if the funds raised will be alocated to hire new managers of portfolio or if you have a team ready to manage all the project.

ARM AI is a technology that manages portfolio risk automatically. So all the holdings of the x8currency will be automatically and continuously allocated between fiat and gold. There is no human interference.  On X8 platform the holders X8X tokens (about to be issued in TGE) will have acces to new issuance of X8currency and will be able to exit and enter into fiat as many times as they want with no fee.
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 08, 2017, 10:30:02 AM
Working with a volatile market is very risky I totally agree, even more now that bitcoin is having a new rally and we are seeing new historical prices. I saw in this thread that basically the user (investor) participant of the whitelist sends money or crypto to X8, then you guys diversify the investment on the main trading pairs like USD EUR and even Gold right?  

Actually that is not the case. Participant in our TGE (Token Generation Event) will receive X8X tokens in return for their contributions. The X8X token is a utility token that gives the holder a licence to benefit from the environment that X8 will ensure. In other words, X8X functions as a key to the issuance and exchange process of our second token - X8Currency (X8C) - with 0% fee . The link between the tokens is represented by this formula: X8X = √X8C or X8X^2 = X8C

X8C represents a stable token 100% backed by an active basket of 8 different fiat currencies and gold. The basket is actively managed by our Automatic Reserve Management AI. So X8C in some way represents and index.

Funds from the TGE will not be used to issue X8C, as this tokens will only be minted when a holder of the X8X tokens will want to exchanges some of his/her funds for X8C. Thus, 100% backing is ensured. If the opposite applies (someone want to sell X8C), the tokens are burned. So no excess tokens are in the environment.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 08, 2017, 09:34:23 AM
Is this something like Icn(Iconomi) with one difference> this is going to diversify in fiat currencies, Icn is diversifying in cryptocurrencies.

Mate 2 days is very short, you need to give investors more time, there are only 11 days left. if Eth stabilizes @current price, you could see

Some entries in the second day, many of Ico investors would invest if they see others are investing.

Hello. Unlike ICN, X8currency is a single token backed by an active basket of fiat and gold. Also, the target here is value preservation not yield.

As for the time, if the hard cap is not reached, the period of the crowdsale is long enough to attract more contributors.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / [ANN] X8X Token Generation Event - Your access to safety and stability on: December 06, 2017, 04:17:37 PM
X8X TGE - Token Generation Event
Executive Summary

X8X Tokens will be issued in several phases to raise funds for upgrading online Portfolio Risk Management Platform, establishing a stable cryptocurrency named X8currency (short X8C).
X8X will be issued in a limited amount (TGE only) as a standard ERC-20 Ethereum Token, tradable on online crypto exchanges.

Private placement phase is already concluded. Investment phases are scheduled:

  • Whitelist registration is ongoing
  • KYC instruction video and text will be published on Sunday, 17th Dec
  • KYC for registered Whitelist members starts live on Monday, 18th Dec
  • Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale starts on Wednesday, 5th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
  • Limited Whitelist Pre-Sale ends on Saturday, 13th Jan 2018 at 12:00 CET
  • Unlimited Whitelist Pre-Sale starts Saturday, 13th Jan 2018 at 14:00 CET
  • Unlimited Whitelist Pre-Sale ends on Monday, 15th Jan 2018 at 14:00 CET
  • Crowdsale starts on Monday, 15th Jan 2018 at 16:00 CET
  • Last Registration/KYC open date: 20th Jan 2018
  • Crowdsale ends on Wednesday, 24th Jan 2018 at 16:00 CET



  • Minimum cap: Min cap already raised by private placement
  • Maximum cap: Additional 3.4 mio €
  • % of tokens generated to X8 Team: 15%
  • % of tokens generated to X8 Capital AG: 6%
  • Maximum number of X8X Tokens: 100 mio
  • Of which crowdfunding participates: 52 mio
  • Of which X8 Team and X8 Capital AG: 21 mio
  • TGE Price per X8X Token: 0.1 €




Short description

All professional crypto investors or crowdsale projects founders experienced the fear and fury of extreme volatility in cryptocurrencies markets. The solution is a technology from the “old business”: portfolio risk management. And you can become the part of the revolution in the two-phase TGE on the 19th of December at 5PM CEST.

Check out a brief video presentation:


X8 project is connecting the “old business mentality” with the blockchain world by offering investors, entrepreneurs and businessmen a solution that disperses their crypto wealth into gold and 8 fiat currencies like Dollar and Euro.


Our main weapons in the fight against against volatility are a portfolio risk management platform and our own special cryptocurrency called X8C. We’re building a safe, scalable and secure currency system for the distributed future.


But we need your help to make the revolution happen:

The first early adopters have already joined us in a private placement phase.
You can became a part of the revolution in the TGE on the 4th of January and on the 8th of January. Both days only members of the X8 Whitelist™ will be able to buy tokens in a limited amount and in an unlimited amount.
Do not miss out on this opportunity. We recommend you to sign up for X8 Whitelist™.

Communications



X8 Team
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token on: September 04, 2017, 09:47:42 AM
Ok looked at your website, blogs and slack. The project looks really interesting. The only thing that I am a bit confused still is this Cofoundit Priority pass. Their website is just confusing. I read somewhere that I need to register a couple of days before the ICO, to be able to participate. Is that true?

As explained, our ICO will be held in association with Cofound.it. Thus, the ICO will be split into 3 phases - limited Priority Pass, unlimited Priority Pass and public crowdsale. To be able to participate in the first two phases, you have to posses at least 5000 CFI tokens in you wallet and register on the Cofound.it website. More information can be found here - http://bit.ly/2xtNfmE

It is important that you successfully register and obtain 5000 CFI tokens 4 days before the star of the ICO, as a snapshot of eligible participators will be take on the Cofound.it platform. So in our case that is September 8, 17.00 CET.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token on: September 02, 2017, 04:46:29 PM
is there a limit when investing in ico?
Yes, the contributions in the first, limited phase of the ICO will follow the below listed order.



More on the CFI Pripority Pass can be found here: http://bit.ly/2xtNfmE
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token on: September 02, 2017, 08:34:12 AM
what currency will we be able to convert into in case we cash out from x8c? all out of 9 in the basket?

You will be able to convert into any of the fiat currencies form the basket.

Basket meaning USD and EURO?
Any more fiat?
Yes, there are 8 fiat currencies in the basket. USD, EUR, JPY, AUD, GBP, CAD, CHF, NZD. you can see the basic on our website: https://x8currency.com/
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][pre-ICO] X8X FinTech Token on: September 02, 2017, 07:55:24 AM
how will you fold ionectar technology into crypto world?

and how will you keep the price stable in case of huge demand for x8c?

Technology developed by IoNectar will be implemented into the crypto world through the stable X8C token, which will consist from 8 different fiat currencies and gold coins. All X8C tokens will be fully (100%) backed at any time. Unlike other "stable" coins the value of X8C will not be pegged to the mentioned basket, as the basket will be active and managed by our Automatic Reserves Management trading AI system (ARM AI). The ARM AI was in development for over 10 years and has a proven track record, as shown in the graph bellow:


The purpose of X8C is providing maximum stability and liquidity to the market. Thus, there are certain automatic procedures in place for cases when the market price of X8C exceeds its intrinsic value for 1% or more, like providing additional stability.

Your project is interesting but it lacks transparency. You say the ARM AI is tested since 10 years but you only provide a chart with 1.5 year history. Since fiat and gold timeseries price data are available at tick level, you may have a backtest of your strategy over longer period.

Last, ARM AI automaticaly allocates the capital to the 8 assets, but it comes at a price: fees, spread and commission. Maybe you could a little bit more how this ARM AI takes it's decisions to remains positive over time ? the basic of the strategy, without revealing the algo core and design. Thanks!

It took over 10 years to develop ARM AI. During this time it was tested at various stages of development and additions. The history you mention is from the start of the operation of live accounts. Our white paper gives a description of the ARM AI system without revealing the algorythms: http://bit.ly/2shdOZs
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] X8currency - X8X FinTech Token on: September 01, 2017, 11:35:23 AM
what currency will we be able to convert into in case we cash out from x8c? all out of 9 in the basket?

You will be able to convert into any of the fiat currencies form the basket.
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