These boards are great with Evga hybrid 1080 ti
The pre loaded waterblocks do 700+ and run cool
I have four six card 1080ti rigs each do 4200 sols.
Riser rigs are meh compared to these rigs.
I do agree with you that the Hybrid 1080 Ti's are AWESOME - I'm up to 25 now, mix of EVGA and the Corsairs but they are awesome. I'm really seriously thinking about buying the hybrid kits for the rest of the cards since I maxed out power and grid won't handle an AC but I'd have to spend another $22k for all the upgrade EVGA kits. So I'm now thinking about testing maybe an EKWB waterblock but not sure. We shall see. |
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Tough call because I've had absolutely ZERO issues with risers, besides a dead one here and there but I always order twice as many as I need and refund the rest so it never matters.
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So are all of you with these Brix units experiencing some type of throttling? I am considering getting one, but will pass on it if they are not stable at 600h or so...
Mine is, but I don't think its throttling. I am trying to figure out the root cause. Mine will go hours at 600+ H/S, sometimes 12-24 hours, then it will start dropping to around 250. Heat is always the first suspect, but it i stop and restart the miner it shoots back up to 600+ again and stays there. If it were thermal related I think it would still be low when starting the miner back up (im talking about stop/starting the software, not the whole computer). I just leave my ssh console open all of the time and occasionally glance at it. Running it Sudo seems to help My environment is a little different than other posters though. I modified some settings in the BIOS and I am also running on ubuntu 17.10 without x windows so there is no GUI or other running processes that can drag down the CPU. When I get home tonight I'll take a few pics of my bios settings. I think using this with Windows may be part of the problem. Windows will use the GPU which will start digging into the L4 cache. Not to mention there are a million different windows processors that will drag it down. I have Windows 10 on my main mining rig (which I use for personal use also) with an I7-7500k and just browsing a website in Chrome will cut my cryptonight hashrate in half. If you are using Windows it might be good to follow this advice: http://1stminingrig.com/best-windows-setup-configuration-tweaks-for-mining/ Generally I think this advice is kind of garbage but in this scenario I think it would help. Which also reminds me, if you are running windows be sure you check your power settings. There is a good chance Windows might treat the Brix like a laptop and downshift the CPU. I actually posted the powershell script I put together to do all that so now my fresh installs are 1 click to get all the settings done. Another couple clicks to install afterburner and other misc. programs, but got it down that simple now. Painless. |
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I just tried this out with an old dell T5500 and all I can say is that while it is slightly cheaper than building a rig from scratch, it may not really be worth it. I had power draw issues with 4 GPUs off the power supply and had to replace it. The hard drive most of them come with is rediculously slow, using Linux and doing any sort of block recovery can take hours instead of minutes so I had to replace it with an SSD. All said and done, I ended up with a motherboard, processor, case and ram for $150 which is a little better than spending ~250 on equivalent parts for a mining rig. However, in comparison, spending $100 more you have a machine which can support 2 more graphics cards. Personally, for my next build I will be going for standard parts again.
Actually more than 2 more graphics cards - I tested my ASUS Prime z-270A's with 4 in 1 splitter and m.2 adapter and it handles 12 GPU's like a fucking champ. |
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First question is, what does the 20Amps derated mean to 30amps PDU's?
I am looking to see if I can run 4 rigs on a 30amp PDU from my Dryer connection. I live in an apartment and I have no other of changing anything, so I'm sacrificing my washer and dryer, I can do laundromats.
It depends on the PDU - a few are "continuous rated" in which case they will probably be listed as "24 amp", most are not in which case a 30 amp unit should be derated to that 24 amps. The drier circuit is ITSELF probably a 30 amp circuit, in which case you would have to derate to 24 amps continuous usage ANYWAY. If your rigs eat 1320 watts "at the wall" or less, you should be fine with 4 of them. If your voltage at the outlet is higher than 220 volts, you can go proportionally higher on the wattage per rig safely. Very well clarified, so you saying I can run 4 rigs if I pull 1320W from the wall, I truly was hoping to run 4 rigs off this one dryer outlet, so I can have run for expansion cos I see my incinerator runs on a 20Amps breaker but only rated for 5.6Amps, thinking of running an extension cord from the other outlet its plugged into. Each rig running right now pulls 1050 and 980 respectively, still plan on dropping down the power draw on the 1050 one, letting it run because it gives me 204mh/s with 1150/2020 core/mem with 1500 straps and top at 110W, will revisit the rig and see if I can trade 10W on each card that's 70W for 1mh/s, 7 total, will bring the rig down to 197. Should be able to run *5* rigs if they are only pulling 1050 watts each. Extension cords to run a miner = VERY BAD idea, even the heavy-duty ones tend to heat up a lot at the connections. I have had clients that ran huge grow ops in Bell Air and would run 10 gauge extension cords throughout - I think the lights only pulled like 1200 watts or something each. I did a couple tours through some of these mansions and I still can't believe or understand how they would get away with gutting these multi million dollar homes. Rent was 25k-30k on some of these homes and they didn't even hire an electrician to wire things... people amaze me. Long story short, heavy duty extension cords do work. Probably not the smartest thing to do, but I had these clients for about 8 years doing their financials and they didn't burn down a single house. Luckily. |
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Wow I can't believe how quick that was - I just decided to list 10 1080 Ti's on OfferUp last night just to test the site out - had 15 offers and some dude is on his way over that supposedly wants them all.
I'm going to have to say considering these have been mining for a year this isn't bad at all.
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There are many hot topic here these days whether should one invest on mining NOW. of course nobody can forsee the future and everydoy can only make estimations.
Currently the price of GPUs has really increased and no matter what some say it is not possible to find cheap ones, the only question is how expensive they will be. In most cases, under the current conditions, it would take between 6 -10 months to take your money back, depending on if you plan only to add one gpu, create a new rig from the beginning, the price of gpus you will find etc.
My question to everybody is what is the bordeline "take my money back" period that you would accept for putting your money NOW in mining. Is it up to 8 months, 9 , 5 or what ?
I have no idea about the correct action but I would "guesstimate" something like 6 months.
I received 2 notifications of 1080 Ti and 1070 Ti availability from Newegg yesterday $869 and $559 and were able to purchase. I was at work so couldn't use BTC and additional addresses to buy more. It is still possible to get GPUs at decent price, but at a limited quantity. To me if ROI is 12 months, it's still the best investment. If I buy $6000-$7000 worth of Apple stocks (roughly equivalent to a 1080 Ti rig), what will I get in return in 12 months? At best 4%? Whereas, you can sell the GPUs probably at your purchase price or even more at the end of 12 months, or continue mining. Sorry hawk that's a very poor example because Apple rose 50% last year and I receive dividends from them every quarter, it's around 2%. |
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Does anyone if MC is "allowed" to not sell at MSRP? I just got back and they have jacked up prices tremendously. RX 580 Saphires are $650. 1080 ti's are $1300. 1070 ti's are $940. Hell, 1060's are $600! I know it's the going rate, but from a retailer?
ROTFLMFAO - I see OP was changed. Too bad I didn't quote that retarded shit as well. But getting back to this new altered post - just like you need to go read up on MAP, please go read up on MSRP as well. MSRP is exactly as the name suggests, it's M.S. fucking R.P. I learned the hard way when I had my distributor license yanked from EoTech about 15 years ago for about 2 months from a sale I was running in one of my brick and mortar shops. Surefire, Trij, Glock are a couple that are super Nazi with their MAP enforcement. I knew I wasn't supposed to... just didn't think they'd be so quick to enforce. |
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Of course they're allowed. When you run a business, you set the price of the items you sell.
Not if you are buying direct from say ASUS. They have MAP pricing. LMFAO do you even know what MAP pricing is? It's the MINIMUM that you can advertise the price for to protect people from backdooring and driving prices down. They don't give a flying fuck if you sell it for $5,000, but if you ADVERTISE IT below what they tell you is allowed, they pull your seller status. And that's why you see sites saying "Add to cart to see price" - because it's a way around MAP. Do you know what MAP is? It's the price you HAVE to sell at dumbass. Yes, you can sell it less by using "add it to your cart", but they also can pull those products from your store if they wanted to. Its your clear you don't, but hey, thanks for adding a childish comment to adult conversation. Yes cupcake, I know what MAP is. I suggest you not only go look up what MAP is, but try to comprehend what it is as well princess. |
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Of course they're allowed. When you run a business, you set the price of the items you sell.
Not if you are buying direct from say ASUS. They have MAP pricing. LMFAO do you even know what MAP pricing is? It's the MINIMUM that you can advertise the price for to protect people from backdooring and driving prices down. They don't give a flying fuck if you sell it for $5,000, but if you ADVERTISE IT below what they tell you is allowed, they pull your seller status. And that's why you see sites saying "Add to cart to see price" - because it's a way around MAP. Do you know what MAP is? It's the price you HAVE to sell at dumbass. Yes, you can sell it less by using "add it to your cart", but they also can pull those products from your store if they wanted to. Yes cupcake, I know what MAP is. You on the other hand, are VERY ... VERY confused. |
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Of course they're allowed. When you run a business, you set the price of the items you sell.
Not if you are buying direct from say ASUS. They have MAP pricing. MAP is the MINIMUM that you can advertise the price for to protect people from backdooring and driving prices down. They don't give a flying fuck if you sell it for $5,000, but if you ADVERTISE IT below what they tell you is allowed, they pull your seller status. And that's why you see sites saying "Add to cart to see price" - because it's a way around MAP - MAP was $400, they want to sell at $350, they can't advertise it @ $350, so they say add it to your cart so you can see the price. |
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Well... got some pretty good news from the electrician in regards to expanding my house's mining capacity...
Seems it will be easy and relatively cheap ($350) for them to drop 4 20-amp circuits from my breaker box to 4 new outlets directly below it. This would give me a lot more flexibility with my current setup (rigs in 5 different rooms), as well as the ability to more easily expand to at least 7-8 rigs. Each of those 20-amp circuits could take 2 of my current rigs since they only pull about 800W each, so would be well under the recommended max of 2000W per. Then I would just need to plan out how to best distribute my newer 7-8 GPU rigs, but overall, this expansion will make things much easier to manage.
The only downside is that my garage has no natural ventilation and while I can run 1-2 rigs in there from Oct-April/May without it, I will need to come up with a solution for more than 2 and/or in the summer. The electrician seemed to think it would be relatively easy to buy a portable A/C unit and hire someone to drill through my wall to vent it outside. I was originally opposed to this idea but if it's pretty common and easy to do, I would of course consider it. Any of you go this route with your setups?
I ran 80 Amps from my garage and I only had those 2 suicide vents that are in there so that was my only venting. I used 1 8" inline fan they use for growing marijuana to vent out the furthest suicide vent and my racks were in front of the other. Garage was hovering around 100-110 but cards stayed around 65-70c @ 60-65% tdp. |
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I suppose its my turn to contribute something. If you are into Cryptonight mining, which it sounds like a few of you are, check out this Gigabyte mini-pc for $250: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856164036You won't be adding any graphics cards (unless you are using eGPUS) but this thing will hash at 614 H/S. You might be wondering how its possible to get that kind of performance out of a cpu with a 6 mb l3 cache. The game changer is that this processor has an embedded Iris Pro GPU with a 128 MB L4 cache. XMR-Stak recently included an optimization to take advantage of this cache space. It should ROI itself in 2.5 months. You have to provide your own ram and HD, but it does come with a wifi card so you could put this thing anywhere. Ok, I picked up and set up one of the 5575rs (identical to the 5775, just i5 instead of i7). Out of the box and just using xmr-stak with the energy saver off, I'm getting around 200-202 h/s, which is not great but not bad. I haven't figured out how to enable support for the Iris Pro yet, still working on that, but I'm feeling pretty confident I can get it up significantly... EDIT: ok, not exactly identical, it's 2.8-3.3ghz and 4mb l3 instead of 3.3-3.8 and 6mb l3, but I still think I can get it up much higher than 200h/s If it has an Iris pro then the L3 size is irrelevent. The issue you will run into though is that the I5 only have 4 cores and no hyperthreading. To take full advantage you need 8 threads. Make sure for the low power setting you are putting in 5. you should probably be in the 300s So you're pulling 600 h/s on your i7? What needs to be changed in the config or CPU file . . . I'm only pulling in 250, I didn't mess around with any of the low power settings, it's still on the stock "false" - Correct. When I ran it with the default settings out of the box I think I got around 250 also. Here is my cpu.txt: "cpu_threads_conf" : [ { "low_power_mode" : 5, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 0 }, { "low_power_mode" : 5, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 1 }, { "low_power_mode" : 5, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 2 }, { "low_power_mode" : 5, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 3 }, { "low_power_mode" : 5, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 4 }, { "low_power_mode" : 5, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 5 }, { "low_power_mode" : 5, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 6 }, { "low_power_mode" : 5, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 7 }, ], In most situations you wouldn't mine using the hyperthreads let alone affine to them, but I think this low power mode must be less cpu intensive at the cost of more memory. In /etc/security/limits.conf I also added the following 2 lines: * soft memlock 262144 * hard memlock 262144 and in /etc/sysctl.conf added: vm.nr_hugepages=128 Proof:  Many thanks! I picked up a Brix unit with the 4770R chip for a steal and stock it wasn't doing so great. Used your settings and put Virtual memory in windows 10 to 16GB (I have 8GB ram) and bam, 574 H/s. About what you would expect for a Haswell i7 given that your Broadwell chip is 5-10% more powerful given an equal clockspeed. Although it must be throttling as its dropped to ~540 h/s. These Brix units are terrible with heat/cooling. Should be fine to stick it in the shed outside where it gets much cooler. Not sure what's up with mines then. I have 4 of them on win10 and 1 on linux mint all have 1 8gb stick in them VM is set to 32gb And I only get the initial boost to 574 within 10 minutes I'm down to 250-275 Mh/s. I'll play with them for another 2 weeks, once I hit day 29 I'll be returning all of them. |
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For my mining equipment it has it's own wallets that it mines to and I don't touch those, unless I'm selling a mined coin for BTC - every quarter I recalculate equipment value + wallet holdings then decide how to reallocate the coins. My asset allocation definitely changes, there was a time I was 100% BTC - in reality I'd be better off if I never spent the 50 BTC to buy mining equipment in the beginning lol.
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Keep it on Dark Net. No accounting needed. I'm j/k of course.
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i want to give a try.. does it support mining with nemosminer?
You'd use ethmonitor not ethcontrol if you're using nemo |
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Well guys and gals - I've often wondered as I see most folks here seem to have all their holdings directly invested into mining gear. Love to get your perspective of why what when - throw it out there. I'll go ahead and break down my current Crypto Asset Allocation - BTC Holdings 50% ALT Holdings 20% Crypto Trading 10% Mining Equipment 20% My holdings are just that, holdings for long term which I do not foresee exiting for a good time. Crypto Trading is just that, I allocated 10% of my holdings for swing and day trading. Any profits are transferred over to increase BTC/ALT Holdings though. All the earnings from mining are transferred over to BTC/ALT Holdings as well. Currently earnings are about 80/20 BTC to ALT but I do a lot of the time directly hold the ALT I'm mining for a few months, so the ratio changes all the time, but I'm really not cashing out anything. I'm hoping more and more people do less cashing out to fiat and keep their earnings as assets, but I know everyone's situation is different - love to hear what you're mindset is and what your future plans are. Let's get this ball rolling guys. So how are you guys breaking things down, and if you've never really thought about it, I hope this brings it to the forefront of you mind and helps you make better more informed decisions for a game play  |
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Fuck bios flashing.
Repeat fuck bios flashing
one more time fuck bios flashing.
She also told me 10 people mentioned me as referrals.
I'll bump that big fuck you to bios flashing lol. I only did 1 rigs worth and it wasn't that difficult with the batch flasher but I still had a bit of anxiety doing it. Even if I brick a card I would just get a refund, but it's still a hassle and wasted time, to me time>$$$ And yeppers - I mentioned Philipma sent me - give me a deal! Kept swearing I was already getting the best deal though hahaha. |
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Anyone have an update on recent Onda D250 boards from Sidonia? She told me earlier this month that they had the v1 boards in stock and I made an order for them. Now she is saying there is shortage on the PCB material and the production will be delayed, which were supposed to be in stock in the first place. First order from Alibaba and getting jittery at this point...
I ordered last week and the last I heard was that they would ship out at the end of January, and that would be it until after the Chinese New Year. She's said nothing about any delay due to materials. Regarding the "she" part, isn't it suspicious that all the sellers from Letine are young pretty girls? I bet we are actually chatting with fat old guys Sales 101 homie. Any time I would be pitching or closing a new client I made sure to bring one of the pretty loan girls or even my secretary. Just shut up and smile is what I'd tell them. Works every time. |
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Thanks to everyone here who helped me get my 1070ti rig up and running. Let's just say that I have been very pleasantly surprised by the extreme ease of setup and use of these Nvidia GPUs! Makes me kick myself for waiting so long to branch out from AMD.
I've had this rig running on ETH+DCR for a few days without 1 single crash or issue. I know that ETH is not the best use for these but wanted to try it out with a miner/coin i was very familiar with out of the gate.
Now that I know it's super stable, I was about to start mining ZClassic via MPH. But, I just realized that Claymore's Equihash miner is AMD-only, so I would like to ask for some recommendations for good Nvidia miners.
The 3 I have seen mentioned are EWBF, Silent Army, and Nicehash (I am not using NH is that makes a difference)... so was wondering what your experiences have been with these 3 and any others. Thanks!
EWBF, DSTM, and BMiner are the current Windows-based contenders. Silent Army (zawata) is quite a bit behind the curve on equihash. Nicehash uses EWBF as an external miner (and I think they added DSTM support in a recent version) and stopped developing their own equihash miner months ago. I am still astounded at how easy setting up and running my Nvidia rig has been. Firstly, the drivers install in like 3 minutes... vs a about 20 for AMD. Since launching, it's been running 2-3 days on ETH+DCR then another 4+ on ZCL. In that time, not 1 crash, 1 restart... nothing! Running smooth, silent and cool non-stop since launching it! I cannot say anythign even close to that for my 470 rigs... even the 2 better ones lol. Needless to say, I am now a big fan of team green and not only will be selling my Vega's to eventually get more 1070ti's but also considering not building the 570 rig I've been collecting parts for. So much less to worry about with Nvidia, although certainly i have a small sample size in only 4 cards running for 1 week so far. But, i lost almost half a day on one of my 470 rigs yesterday... windows update (since I was wary of that intel bug and wanted to patch it). Once it finished, it took me about 4 hours to get it back up and running. Yes, partly my fault cuz i forgot i had to run the pixel patcher after re-installing new drivers, which was already after running DDU in safe mode lol. But still, just a major frustrating PITA! LOL Yeah I built 1 AMD rig had it running for about 6 months but I sold it couple days ago. From having to have stupid HDMI plugs to super slow deployment to having to flash bios and all that other crap, I just like the ease of nVidia too. Win10 is not an issue either. I do need to figure out a script to 1 click install that would seal the deal for me |
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