I think it'll go back up too. It's pretty obvious from every previous swing that fees and other alts are used as hedging mechanisms and move opposite to the swings in btc. Once btc swings down significantly, I'm pretty sure fees will go back up. It's interest earning savings when btc aren't working during movements.
My 0.02. I request you don't sell the fees at a loss right now.
Well fuck me. I definitely wasn't expecting the shutdown. =\ |
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$2.6 million. Just passed Devcoin, Terracoin, Anoncoin, BBQ, and CGB. Now up to 14th highest Told you guys it would sky rocket before Thanksgiving  Why is it though? I'm curious. Yes, I have some holdings and like the gambling aspect but I haven't seen one person mention it as a coin that they use for the intended purpose of gambling. I sort of feel like it needs to incubate a bit more. Am I missing something? |
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I heard about Iceland having cheap power, free cooling etc etc etc, back in the spring, and was investigating... well... maybe they do, but none of the hosting companies there knows much about it. On average they seemed about 20% worse pricing than top tier hosting in the US.
I am very good friends with one of the big data center owners in Iceland. I have a meeting set up with him fairly soon, actually. What I haven't been able to do is get any large ASIC company owners to liaise with me to make the intro. |
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I wonder if Havelock was considered as a listing location for LRM. It seems they've withstood the test of exchanges where bitfunder and even btct.co didn't.
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Real solid is unprofessional and a scammer, they will take your BTC and you will lose money there, you will make better with mining BTC dont feed into the Alt Currency
LTC,FTC,XPM and PPC are ok, but the volumes for those are way better on other sites. I would steer clear of SC,MNC, WDC, MCX they are all tightly held or limited just to that site. You forgot about the dirty bird, CopperLark! |
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Will Blockchain be offering any free or very low fee CoinJoin transaction service? I can't really justify ~0.5% but I'd like to start using it. If we want to get regular users who aren't trying to hide criminal activity or tainted coins to use CoinJoin, the cost will need to be lower since the perceived benefit to regular users is lower as well.
The 0.5% fee was removed recently and the service is now free (excluding bitcoin network fee). Fantastic! Thank you so much for leading the way on this. My last question is when will this be available on the Firefox extension? I prefer to use that for security reasons, although I don't mind using the website for the Coinjoin transactions until the browser extensions are updated. The fee still applies. I just tried it. Boo Hoo I think you tried the SharedSend feature, which is different from CoinJoin. I can't actually find CoinJoin to give it a try. Any insight from those who know how to use it? Maybe I'm blind but I simply can't find how to use it. |
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Now that ltc use gpu too, there are some currency that is still CPU based?
I think it's not possible to make a coin CPU only, since GPUs are essentially also CPUs. Intel's new architecture even put both CPU and GPU on the same die. Necro of this thread as a result of things like primecoin, protoshares, etc. |
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Can you please open Armory and use "File"->Export Log File and email the result to support @ bitcoinarmory.com? Those crash reports are pretty much useless for us. It gives us a tiny hint of where the problem is, but the log gives us the whole story. And please use the menu, since there's multiple logs that Armory will collapse into one. Or maybe you can find some interesting error messages in the log and post them here. emailed as attachment using what I think is your public key for file encryption. Let me know if I need to send it a different way. Thanks. |
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Mac OSX 10.8.5 Crash Process: Python [58678]
Path: /Applications/Armory.app/Contents/MacOS/Python
Identifier: com.armory.armory
Version: 0.89.99.14-beta
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: bash [58675]
User ID: 501
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.8.5 (12F45)
Report Version: 10
Interval Since Last Report: 1710132 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 2
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 2
Crashed Thread: 2
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x000000017851d9f5
VM Regions Near 0x17851d9f5:
mapped file 00000001720ea000-00000001722ef000 [ 2068K] r--/r-x SM=PRV /Users/USER/Library/Application Support/Armory/*/*.sst
-->
CG shared images 00000001c0001000-00000001c0009000 [ 32K] rw-/rw- SM=SHM
Thread 0:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff95ffe322 __select + 10
1 time.so 0x00000001011399af time_sleep + 143
2 org.python.python 0x00000001000a3320 PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 7712
3 org.python.python 0x00000001000a1386 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1734
4 org.python.python 0x00000001000a8246 fast_function + 294
5 org.python.python 0x00000001000a459b PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 12443
6 org.python.python 0x00000001000a1386 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1734
7 org.python.python 0x00000001000a8246 fast_function + 294
8 org.python.python 0x00000001000a459b PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 12443
9 org.python.python 0x00000001000a1386 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1734
10 org.python.python 0x00000001000a8246 fast_function + 294
11 org.python.python 0x00000001000a459b PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 12443
12 org.python.python 0x00000001000a1386 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1734
13 org.python.python 0x00000001000a8246 fast_function + 294
14 org.python.python 0x00000001000a459b PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 12443
15 org.python.python 0x00000001000a1386 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1734
16 org.python.python 0x0000000100033556 function_call + 342
17 org.python.python 0x000000010000fe25 PyObject_Call + 101
18 org.python.python 0x00000001000a57f6 PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 17142
19 org.python.python 0x00000001000a1386 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1734
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22 org.python.python 0x00000001000a1386 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1734
23 org.python.python 0x0000000100033556 function_call + 342
24 org.python.python 0x000000010000fe25 PyObject_Call + 101
25 org.python.python 0x000000010001be46 instancemethod_call + 166
26 org.python.python 0x000000010000fe25 PyObject_Call + 101
27 org.python.python 0x00000001000a79ad PyEval_CallObjectWithKeywords + 93
28 sip.so 0x000000010122f43c sip_api_invoke_slot + 401
29 QtCore.so 0x0000000101707709 PyQtProxy::invokeSlot(qpycore_slot const&, void**) + 169
30 QtCore.so 0x00000001017075b0 PyQtProxy::unislot(void**) + 160
31 QtCore.so 0x00000001017074fe PyQtProxy::qt_metacall(QMetaObject::Call, int, void**) + 110
32 QtCore 0x000000010198299e QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, QMetaObject const*, int, void**) + 1912
33 QtCore.so 0x00000001016d68d2 sipQTimer::timerEvent(QTimerEvent*) + 98
34 QtCore 0x000000010197ef46 QObject::event(QEvent*) + 48
35 QtCore.so 0x00000001016d6942 sipQTimer::event(QEvent*) + 98
36 QtGui 0x0000000104852488 QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) + 198
37 QtGui 0x0000000104854aa7 QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) + 5733
38 QtGui.so 0x0000000104046dd9 sipQApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) + 121
39 QtCore 0x000000010196f639 QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*, QEvent*) + 101
40 QtGui 0x0000000104855371 qt_sendSpontaneousEvent(QObject*, QEvent*) + 44
41 QtGui 0x000000010480f44b QEventDispatcherMacPrivate::activateTimer(__CFRunLoopTimer*, void*) + 125
42 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff97b11804 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 20
43 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff97b1131d __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 557
44 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff97af6ad9 __CFRunLoopRun + 1529
45 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff97af60e2 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 290
46 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff971eaeb4 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 209
47 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff971eab94 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 166
48 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff971eaae3 BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 62
49 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff98e43533 _DPSNextEvent + 685
50 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff98e42df2 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 128
51 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff98e3a1a3 -[NSApplication run] + 517
52 QtGui 0x000000010480fe01 QEventDispatcherMac::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) + 461
53 QtCore 0x000000010196cd89 QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) + 79
54 QtCore 0x000000010196cee7 QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) + 341
55 QtCore 0x000000010196fa6b QCoreApplication::exec() + 199
56 QtGui.so 0x0000000104048330 meth_QApplication_exec_ + 80
57 org.python.python 0x00000001000a3320 PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 7712
58 org.python.python 0x00000001000a1386 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1734
59 org.python.python 0x00000001000a0cb6 PyEval_EvalCode + 54
60 org.python.python 0x00000001000c8351 PyRun_FileExFlags + 161
61 org.python.python 0x00000001000c7e9e PyRun_SimpleFileExFlags + 718
62 org.python.python 0x00000001000dcedb Py_Main + 3307
63 Python 0x0000000100000e55 0x100000000 + 3669
64 Python 0x0000000100000d71 0x100000000 + 3441
Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff95ffed16 kevent + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff8db8adea _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 883
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x00007fff8db8a9ee _dispatch_mgr_thread + 54
Thread 2 Crashed:
0 _CppBlockUtils.so 0x0000000107907334 BtcUtils::readVarInt(unsigned char const*, unsigned int*) + 4
1 _CppBlockUtils.so 0x000000010793da6a BtcUtils::TxCalcLength(unsigned char const*, std::__1::vector<unsigned int, std::__1::allocator<unsigned int> >*, std::__1::vector<unsigned int, std::__1::allocator<unsigned int> >*) + 490
2 _CppBlockUtils.so 0x0000000107938121 Tx::unserialize(unsigned char const*) + 33
3 _CppBlockUtils.so 0x0000000107938308 Tx::unserialize(BinaryRefReader&) + 24
4 _CppBlockUtils.so 0x0000000107933e5f Tx::Tx(BinaryRefReader&) + 191
5 _CppBlockUtils.so 0x00000001079232d3 StoredHeader::unserializeFullBlock(BinaryRefReader, bool, bool) + 547
6 _CppBlockUtils.so 0x000000010795fd55 BlockDataManager_LevelDB::addRawBlockToDB(BinaryRefReader&) + 261
7 _CppBlockUtils.so 0x0000000107960936 BlockDataManager_LevelDB::addNewBlockData(BinaryRefReader&, unsigned int, unsigned int, unsigned int) + 1478
8 _CppBlockUtils.so 0x000000010795ecb7 BlockDataManager_LevelDB::readBlkFileUpdate() + 3031
9 _CppBlockUtils.so 0x0000000107b1e5fe _wrap_BlockDataManager_LevelDB_readBlkFileUpdate + 110
10 org.python.python 0x00000001000a3320 PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 7712
11 org.python.python 0x00000001000a81e2 fast_function + 194
12 org.python.python 0x00000001000a459b PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 12443
13 org.python.python 0x00000001000a81e2 fast_function + 194
14 org.python.python 0x00000001000a459b PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 12443
15 org.python.python 0x00000001000a81e2 fast_function + 194
16 org.python.python 0x00000001000a459b PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 12443
17 org.python.python 0x00000001000a81e2 fast_function + 194
18 org.python.python 0x00000001000a459b PyEval_EvalFrameEx + 12443
19 org.python.python 0x00000001000a1386 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 1734
20 org.python.python 0x0000000100033556 function_call + 342
21 org.python.python 0x000000010000fe25 PyObject_Call + 101
22 org.python.python 0x000000010001be46 instancemethod_call + 166
23 org.python.python 0x000000010000fe25 PyObject_Call + 101
24 org.python.python 0x00000001000a79ad PyEval_CallObjectWithKeywords + 93
25 org.python.python 0x00000001000def26 t_bootstrap + 70
26 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff97fdf772 _pthread_start + 327
27 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff97fcc1a1 thread_start + 13
Thread 3:: com.apple.CFSocket.private
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff95ffe322 __select + 10
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff97b35f46 __CFSocketManager + 1302
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff97fdf772 _pthread_start + 327
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff97fcc1a1 thread_start + 13
Thread 4:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff95ffe0fa __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff97fe3fb9 _pthread_cond_wait + 869
2 _CppBlockUtils.so 0x0000000107a678a7 leveldb::(anonymous namespace)::PosixEnv::BGThreadWrapper(void*) + 71
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff97fdf772 _pthread_start + 327
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x00007fff97fcc1a1 thread_start + 13
Thread 2 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x0000000101bc0862 rbx: 0x00000000000000d3 rcx: 0x000000007695d18b rdx: 0x00000000000041d0
rdi: 0x000000017851d9f5 rsi: 0x00000001084ff0d4 rbp: 0x00000001084ff0a0 rsp: 0x00000001084ff0a0
r8: 0x0000000000000037 r9: 0x000000000000000f r10: 0x0000000000000000 r11: 0x000000012403e570
r12: 0x00000000000000de r13: 0x000000000000001a r14: 0x00000001084ff3d0 r15: 0x00000001084ff0d4
rip: 0x0000000107907334 rfl: 0x0000000000010202 cr2: 0x000000017851d9f5
Logical CPU: 2
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I think it'll go back up too. It's pretty obvious from every previous swing that fees and other alts are used as hedging mechanisms and move opposite to the swings in btc. Once btc swings down significantly, I'm pretty sure fees will go back up. It's interest earning savings when btc aren't working during movements.
My 0.02. I request you don't sell the fees at a loss right now.
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I think my question got lost in subsequent questions that came after. That's what I get for asking a question late at night I guess.  I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or what but the "generate subsequent buy" or "generate subsequent sell" don't seem to work. How does one a) use this feature properly and b) verify that it's actually queued correctly?
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I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or what but the "generate subsequent buy" or "generate subsequent sell" don't seem to work. How does one a) use this feature properly and b) verify that it's actually queued correctly?
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are we still at a reduced speed 2.1 th
out of 3.4-4.2 correct?
Yup. Im working on them right now, so hashrate might be going up and down for the next few hours. I see we're merge-mining with NMC. Are those also distributed? If so, how? |
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Arrrgh, I am stuck in alts  So any sort of update on this? Hopefully all is well? :p I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday. |
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I am correct in saying that there should be a "round 2" for refunds, right? I haven't received mine yet.
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Everybody involved has had AMPLE opportunity to make a timely claim or to contest the current list. If they haven't taken action at this point, the onus is on them.
My concern isn't that, it's that ""the current list"" is apparently still a WIP.. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiYcEqkgyjc_dHdIRGhHMG43N21raXJVSjA4dk5nUVE#gid=0It's only got about 1/4th of the chips/BTC filled in Or what is the "current list" if not the spreadsheet John K is filling in..? Said concern will be alleviated when the list is finished Everything is in progress before it is finished. Yesterday your concern was that John was rushing to completion, risking error. Now you opine that the list isn't done yet - following John's announcement that he needed to clarify things before continuing. What would please you? I just want an ample time window between "Ok the list is done" and "Ok i'm sending the 150,000$ in refunds out" Say 24 hours. 1 day for any objections to be made I'm getting the impression people want to send refunds ASAP as soon as that list is made, with no time for checking it because "the one true list" was already made Yes, i'm paranoid because i bought chips from someone. Yes, I’m paranoid of that list being made with the people i bought the chips from and them getting my refund. There's no chargeback in bitcoin. I think anyone else who bought chips from someone is in the same position Also my concern was *NEVER* about JohnK doing anything, it was about other people's actions, requests, and their suggestions I think most would agree with the desire to give everyone time for objections - John included. |
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It doesn't take any time to put the command together. You can do it yourself and see. Open John's spreadsheet and then save a copy. Take the first bit of code, paste it into cell F2. Then select that cell,
and in the same cut and paste steps you send out each one by one ... why be cute? Transaction fees, primarily. Doing it one by one doesn't change the risk of error at all. That depends on John being comfortable with sendmany, of course. This is his show. Completely agree that it's his show and whatever route he chooses I'm fine with, though I would contend that the risk error would probably be higher doing them individually due to missed/repeated copy & pastes or the blurring together of steps due to monotony/repetition. The risk error fear is simply (at least in my opinion) due to people's ignorance of the existence / use of the command coupled with a fear of the unknown (or perhaps technology). Saved fees are one thing, sure, but it will also save John time and get us our refunds more quickly. It will also be quicker for everyone to verify that the transaction went through since everyone will be part of the same transaction rather than John having to PM / email everyone their own tx number / link. I'll step off the soapbox now and leave it in John's hands. My only real goal was to try to continue to facilitate in any way possible to get us our refunds, mitigate potential errors, and just get this whole thing behind us. |
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Hey, have you done this list by the new spreadsheet? because for some reason my return address isn't here
Understand that this should not be taken definitively or used as the final transaction. Rather, I took a(n incomplete) version of John's spreadsheet, copied it, and generated the proper sendmany transaction such that all he had to do was copy a formula to a cell, drag-copy it to the rest of the cells, and copy another formula to generate the sendmany. It was just to illustrate that it was possible (and quite easy). It was not meant to be the final version. You should look to John's linked spreadsheet (or anything else he links) as final. This was just to help him. He may choose to use it or he may choose to go another route. It's ultimately up to him. |
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that's nice and all, but this is a one and done event (the refund) so the time it takes to put together a script would be the same amount of time or more than just sending them out one by one
It doesn't take any time to put the command together. You can do it yourself and see. Open John's spreadsheet and then save a copy. Take the first bit of code, paste it into cell F2. Then select that cell, go to the bottom right corner where the plus sign shows up, and drag-copy it to all the cells below it in the rows that have content. After that, the second bit of code and paste it into G2 and press enter. Voila - you have the sendmany transaction with one extra comma. Copy the contents, remove the comma before the closed curly bracket, and press enter. Everyone's funds are sent in one transaction. This also saves time because only one transaction needs to be linked to everyone. We can see everything sent and John doesn't then have to copy / paste the transaction to every person - a time saver I neglected to mention initially. Come to think of it, for as long as John has been doing escrow, I'd be surprised if he wasn't already familiar with sendmany. He might have already even used it. |
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