Let's buy this shit up to $1 and we'll all be rolling.  |
|
|
|
|
A guy I know, tried to send $30k worth of BTC yesterday on lightning network through segwit. He was ecstatic about his low fees! Only $3, he reveled in the brilliance of segwit, laughing at BCH.
Then come 24 hours later the transaction still had 0 confirmations. Now he realizes he will probably have to wait another 48 hours until it is returned to him to send it on the normal BTC network with a higher fee.
|
|
|
|
That's retarded. Litecoin has 2.5 minute blocks, but it has never been 4x the value of Bitcoin.
Unlike BCH Litecoin's not sha-256, not the main fork of Bitcoin, not distributed as widely. |
|
|
|
I can only speak for myself, but I think Charlie Lee is a dork. Litecoin has been declining from its high of .02 btc for quite awhile now and he's constantly declaring victory off of the usd value increases coming from Bitcoin's rise. Charlie Lee posts price predictions and what I see as exceedingly lame memes on a daily basis. Rocket Chicken Moon, wow. So wowe. I see all kind of idiots talking about $1,000 Litecoin and how great Charlie is and how he is constantly working... I don't see it! Furthermore he has sided against BCH and with the Blockstream corporation simply because he wants his lightning network to enable atomic transactions between Litecoin and BTC in the default wallet. I do not support such transactions and I do not view the current BTC as the legitimate successor to the pre-fork Bitcoin. Charlie is all about Nodes being more important than hashpower. I don't see how raspberry pi nodes that cost $10 and can be put up en masse is more valuable than the hashpower which takes millions of dollars to acquire. Why would you determine the valid upgrade by something so insignificant and manipulable? User Activated Soft Fork, UASF, just a lie to make the little guy feel fuzzy. It's a marketing gimmick. Vlad has long ago said that Litecoin was not the intention of his riddle and if you read you would know it's been solved for years. XIC is Litecoin?
No. It's not. It requires a little research - but you may get lucky with a guess. That's post #11. You really want to get behind the guy who posts stupid shit like this?  Not me. |
|
|
|
Walet sync took a long time,
Same here, but I pushed through it. At one point I accidentally removed my ethernet cable during the sync and had to start over from scratch after it corrupted. That sucked. It would be great if somebody created a bootstrap for new or returning users. |
|
|
|
DAMN!
Looks like Gleb Gamow is right. Bitconnect Looks like a SCAM from what he discovered.
Man. Thanks for sharing. Karma to you. Damn.
Can Crypto Girl call them out. Crypto Girl on your youtube channel, all your referral are all scam also, like ambis.biz, bitlake etc. same ppl.
Shit Go to Hell Bitconnect. All my money gone.
I wouldn't be surprised if they come back after this outage but one day this is going to end ugly. It's important to remember no matter how high the token value or market-cap, the fundamentals are the most important thing. A profitable scam is a scam nonetheless. It can also be said of low market-caps, the fundamentals matter a great deal. If you're picking a horse, you gotta pay attention to the fine print. |
|
|
|
Hmm, so I looked at the Bitconnect terms of service. Any technological difficulties experienced by the Bitconnect system may prevent the access or use of members virtual currency temporarily or permanently, depending on the severity of damage. So, any technological difficulty gives them the right to permanently prevent access to member's coins. Sounds totally legit. |
|
|
|
|
The ultimate success would be getting relisted on poloniex.
Big Vern can burn in hell.
|
|
|
|
I'm doomish. Do the needful.
MOTHERFUCKING DOOM! |
|
|
|
lol you didn't offend my feelings  But of course I'm going to defend Ixcoin. You could mine Ixcoin with a graphics card back in 2011 as well. You can still mine for fees now, though it is not rewarding a block payout, something which I think should be changed with a soft fork of the premine. Ixcoin is the original copy of bitcoin, it is the second altcoin ever. Use of Ixcoin doesn't necessitate it surpassing Bitcoin and any changes or features implemented to Bitcoin or any other coin can be brought to Ixcoin if we come together to do it. I think it's better to not put a great deal of effort into marketing a coin, allowing people to participate if they wish, rather than taking out huge spaces to advertise it, starting icos, pushing it on uninformed investors. I think it's an interesting coin because it can indeed implement any changes from any other coin, it is the second oldest altcoin, it is merge mined, the creator is mysterious, used a clever anagram of Satoshi Nakamoto, and despite Ixcoin's low price only a small number of coins can even be purchased off exchanges meaning the majority are held in cold storage. Low usage and valuation in the past and present does not necessarily mean it will never be adopted. Yes, it is not a sure shot but it is an interesting rhetorical position so I and many others choose to hold and stay involved. |
|
|
|
|
This is definitely illegal, it just hasn't been charged yet.
It's just common sense.
I don't see much difference from the onecoin scam.
The flash crash last night probably helped balance the books.
One day, it will fall. That is for certain.
|
|
|
|
We're quickly approaching a point where BTC is effectively unusable and stuck in place. What value does a commodity have if it isn't transferable? I'll give you my BTC in 60hrs or I'll give you my BCH right now.
Lies and bullshit. BTC is perfectly usable and perfectly transferable. If you don't want to pay enough tx fee then don't use it. All the rest of us have no problem whatsoever. Its not usable for micro payment. I don't consider $20 a micro payment either, I consider $20 equivalent of btc to be a normative payment. Sub $1 is micro payments, sub 1 cent is a micro payment. $20 is a tip, a dinner bill, a monthly payment, a tank of gas. Sending $20 is now impossible on the BTC fork. Unless you're willing to send $34 to pay $20 or receive $6 instead of $20. |
|
|
|
And finally, what one considers Bitcoin is now open to interpretation and simply because one fork managed to politically keep the ticker BTC does not mean that it is in some way more or less inherently entitled to the name of the main chain.
____________________________
BCH is Bitcoin
BTC is Bitcoin
If a tree has two branches, you do not consider the two branches to be separate from the tree. At the time of the split, there was no "correct" main chain, just the one which was perceived to be the main chain because they used their political positioning to maintain the original ticker of btc. The valuation of these two forks is in flux, people are still struggling to grasp the technological, political, and economic concepts at play here. There is no clear winner yet, this will take months to settle.
_____________________________
BTC split from "The" Bitcoin chain via segwit.
BCH split from "The" Bitcoin chain via raising the block size.
Both forks implemented changes, thus while one kept the stock ticker of BTC and the infrastructure built around the BTC ticker on trade platforms, it is not inherently the defacto Bitcoin.
If BCH manages to maintain the majority hashing power and prices rise to support it, it will become the chain which is used and referred to as the main Bitcoin.
Obviously, this could not happen within the same day of launch, or week, or maybe even month or months. This will take some time to play out. Right now there is a great deal of uncertainty among investors, traders, and miners.
A great deal hold both of their coins, BTC and BCH and use BTC + BCH to calculate the overall bitcoin price, which is a sensible way of understanding this.
____________________________
Finally, when somebody says Bitcoin, it is now a general term which could be perceived to mean BCH or BTC.
There is a lot of doublespeak around this situation, many people are vocal about supporting one side while others are silent and willing to follow whichever appears to be 'winning'. This is like poker, people may not want to telegraph their moves because there is no clear advantage in doing so. Only time can tell where this leads.
+ 1000 !!! Thank you for the +1000, how do I redeem it? Quoted because I think this answers just about every discussion in every new page of this thread. I am vehemently opposed to the ludicrously high tax fees btc is trying to impose and see core, segwit as the hostile actors taking over Bitcoin. Oh wow, two baseless attacks on Bitcoin Cash in a row on a new page. Yep, it's about that time again, time to bring back the truth. |
|
|
|
I don't buy this "attack on Bitcoin" argument.
Nobody cares what you buy and what you don't. You're a loser! Nice ad hominem, try to refute my point. You can't. |
|
|
|
Want to send $20? Too bad, you will receive $4, it's only fair to pay the Blockstream Corporation for their Bitcoin invention.
Actually you're paying a nice Chinese man to finance his attacks on Bitcoin. I don't buy this "attack on Bitcoin" argument. So what if the chain gets spammed? That's exposing a weakness. What if Bitcoin actually got the mainstream adoption all these sycophants are constantly proclaiming? That spam would be replaced with "real" transactions. Old dice websites and others used to do 1 satoshi transactions all the time, there are legitimate reasons to send low value high volume transactions that aren't intentionally "malicious". If core don't like the mempool being filled, they should alter their code to handle this. Unfortunately, they prefer to limit the block size and ensure that fees continue to rise, going so far to say $1,000 fees would be acceptable. Pushing transactions off chain is like a toddler pushing their toys under the bed to clean their room. They say things like it would be fine if it took as long as a year for a payment to settle as long as you could ensure it would eventually settle. That completely changes the fundamental currency claim of Bitcoin. It's not a settlement network. |
|
|
|
|
Want to send $20? Too bad, you will receive $4, it's only fair to pay the Blockstream Corporation for their Bitcoin invention.
|
|
|
|
This means that IXcoin is highly centralized held be a few, very easy to manipulate it.
So yes, I call bullshit on IXcoin, TRB(whichever will be) is much better than this.
We've openly posted the holding distribution in a bubble chart, we have a chain explorer. Of course it isn't as decentralized in holdings as Bitcoin but this doesn't preclude it from success. It is relatively well distributed and there is nothing preventing people from buying. Regardless, there is nothing particularly wrong with large holders of a chain, as long as they obtained their holdings legitimately. In fact, many of the top coins have massively centralized distributions and that appears to have helped them in propping up the price. If you don't believe in Ixcoin, ok, sure, but I think it's pretty stupid to be posting in Ixcoin threads then. |
|
|
|
Everytime bitcoin splits everyone gets an equal amount on each new chain. That's dilution. 100% dilution each time. There are now at least 3 splits so I was being generous with only 42 million. And more splits are coming. Bitcoin is being minted and diluted more than the Venezuelan trash bills. That's a simple and true fact that few seem to get.
You are promoting IXcoin, I get that, but it's not going to happen. What's not going to happen? More forks? Segwit 2x may well become another hardfork in a few months. You better not be talking about Ixcoin, Ixcoin already happened! It's the happening, dude. Anyways this is a repost but it absolutely belongs in this thread: BLOCKSTREAM VOLCANO LAIR - Blockstream Core, masterminds behind SEGWIT, today released their reaction to SegWit's activation.
Blockstream CEO Adam Back said on hearing the news, "I am thrilled that our patented SegWit™ technology has been smoothly adopted. Our technology provides unprecedented business opportunities for the entire banking industry, possibly with some other fringe applications."
On the way back to NSA headquarters, Blockstream psyops engineer theymos gave a statement by phone, saying "As a long-time employee of BitMain, I am proud to have been even a small part of this grand achievement, brought to you by the great folks at the Bitcoin Foundation. While Goldman Sachs does not always get the best reputation, I think that our actions here have thoroughly proven that the Bilderberg Group is merely a normal, benevolent group of people."
Luke Dashjr, whose UASF support proved essential to SegWit's success, announced plans for a new, non-Bitcoin UASF which would softfork the decimal number system into Tonal, finally addressing the covert deciboost attack which has been ongoing for millennia.
Although his identity remains unknown, the Supreme Troll Army Commander was heard issuing a command to "execute order 141" to all troll army lieutenants.
"THE SCREAMS OF THE INNOCENT WILL ECHO THROUGH MY HALLS", said Blockstream CTO Greg Maxwell from his skull throne. He proceeded to carve "1MB" into a shrieking supplicant's flesh while laughing manically.
All in all, spirits are high and tensions low at Blockstream Core HQ, even despite the ominous timers which fill every wall, slowly but inexorably counting down to some unknown event which lead developer Wladimir will only describe as "an EARTH-SHATTERING surprise which only those who have experienced Bitcoin's TO-THE-MOON journey will be able to truly appreciate." I guess we'll just have to wait and see what's next for Bitcoin! |
|
|
|
Where's the logic in that? Bitcoin has 42+ million coins and many more coming.
Bitcoin has 16 millions circulating supply, what am I missing? Well, he didn't say in circulation. 42 million is 21 million BCH + 21 million BTC. As far as I'm concerned Bitcoin is now BCH + BTC. BCH is the true successor and segwit is an illegitimate takeover by blockstream and the btcfoundation. Taxes should be low or nonexistent. Craig Wright has a high probability of being Satoshi Nakamoto. and of course, Ixcoin will ascend to its rightful position as a prominent chain. |
|
|
|
And finally, what one considers Bitcoin is now open to interpretation and simply because one fork managed to politically keep the ticker BTC does not mean that it is in some way more or less inherently entitled to the name of the main chain.
____________________________
BCH is Bitcoin
BTC is Bitcoin
If a tree has two branches, you do not consider the two branches to be separate from the tree. At the time of the split, there was no "correct" main chain, just the one which was perceived to be the main chain because they used their political positioning to maintain the original ticker of btc. The valuation of these two forks is in flux, people are still struggling to grasp the technological, political, and economic concepts at play here. There is no clear winner yet, this will take months to settle.
_____________________________
BTC split from "The" Bitcoin chain via segwit.
BCH split from "The" Bitcoin chain via raising the block size.
Both forks implemented changes, thus while one kept the stock ticker of BTC and the infrastructure built around the BTC ticker on trade platforms, it is not inherently the defacto Bitcoin.
If BCH manages to maintain the majority hashing power and prices rise to support it, it will become the chain which is used and referred to as the main Bitcoin.
Obviously, this could not happen within the same day of launch, or week, or maybe even month or months. This will take some time to play out. Right now there is a great deal of uncertainty among investors, traders, and miners.
A great deal hold both of their coins, BTC and BCH and use BTC + BCH to calculate the overall bitcoin price, which is a sensible way of understanding this.
____________________________
Finally, when somebody says Bitcoin, it is now a general term which could be perceived to mean BCH or BTC.
There is a lot of doublespeak around this situation, many people are vocal about supporting one side while others are silent and willing to follow whichever appears to be 'winning'. This is like poker, people may not want to telegraph their moves because there is no clear advantage in doing so. Only time can tell where this leads.
+ 1000 !!! Thank you for the +1000, how do I redeem it? Quoted because I think this answers just about every discussion in every new page of this thread. I am vehemently opposed to the ludicrously high tax fees btc is trying to impose and see core, segwit as the hostile actors taking over Bitcoin. |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
