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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: July 01, 2017, 05:38:25 PM
Please stop hating on the dev. He's trying to get shit done. Calm down there's been so much going on in 24 hours ppl need to calm the f down

I'm sorry but I think the fact that we haven't gotten an updated white paper is really bad. It looks really bad on his part too. He can easily get more funding if he takes those steps I listed and get his project done way faster. And how long does it take to plan out what you're going to do?

He can release an updated white paper within a day or two because it seems like he has an idea of what he is doing.

Saying stuff like "I'm hoping for a release in 2017" instills ZERO confidence in coin holders. FFS it's been THREE years, that's the main point I am getting at. You can make tons of progress in three years if you play your cards right. All he has been doing is working on the development of his project, but if he really believes it to be good, he should have set funds on the side to promote his project, work on the website, work on hiring someone for communication, hire people to help him get his project done faster.

These are all very important steps which he has not done. I'm sure Ohad is an honest guy and wants the product to speak for itself, but he has to realize that even if his product works, if no one knows about it, then it won't go anywhere.

His idea sounds wayyyyy better than most other ICOs I have seen, but why do those other ICOs raise so much more money than he does? Why do those ICOs get their work done in a timely manner? It's called organization and communication.
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: July 01, 2017, 04:23:23 PM
Hi Ohad,

New poster here, though I have been a follower of the project and an Agoras token holder for several months.

I want to clarify the discount factors that will apply to bulk 'tentative' token sales, and ask you to reconsider the final price.

In your post in this forum on June 29 about solving the crisis, you made it clear that any purchases at the tentative address may be refunded if the tentative tokens sold out. But you did not make it clear that you might increase the price. Indeed you mentioned in previous posts that bulk purchase at the prices shown on the Google spreadsheet would be available until the end of June.

It appears that the tokens reserved for 'tentative' purchases did not sell out. So I think that you should honor the June price of 37.6c for any purchases who sent tokens to the tentative purchase address before July 1 at midnight.

Now, maybe we have no right to complain or make demands. We are being sold tokens for below market price, so that's great!

However, those of us who believed in this project enough to purchase early deserve the full benefit of that. It's unfair that those of us who bought tokens in late June instead of early June are subject to an arbitrary price increase.

Refunding purchases to honor your commitment limiting the tokens sold is fair. Raising prices beyond what you previously offered in June is not.

I sent a lot of bitcoin to that purchase address based on my trust in you, and observing that you had always kept your commitments in the past. I think not honoring the prices offered for June is a bit of a disappointment to the community.

So I'd ask that you reconsider your decision from earlier today, and honor the prices in the below spreadsheet for all tentative purchases made in June.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EjW1s66T75vnWh7WSzuP0vxcx1vdwlqCm2JOmlVlPOg/edit#gid=0





Posts like this is why we need SET rules (that can't be changed) and a set website that shares all those rules (through blog posts). You guys might think a new and active website isn't a priority, but it greatly is.

I'm very disappointed in the fact that after three years the website isn't being used and all the talk is on this forum. So unprofessional it's not even funny. There should be a team to manage all these requests, not Ohad doing everything himself. You should be coming once in a while to update on the progress of your project while letting someone on your team should do most of the talking here. This will also ensure that you can solely work on the project without worrying about what is going on here.

You have enough money now but what are you doing with it? Where are these funds going to? Have you shown us a plan on how these funds will be allocated?

Ohad, you seriously need to update your website if you want some more support for your project. You need to update a new white paper ASAP with a timeline of what is to come... and you HAVE to try to meet the goals at the time you have stated... YOU CANNOT meet your goals without having a date set to reach them. Without a set out plan, your goals will NEVER be reached.

THIS is why you NEED to update your white paper and update on how you are going to use the funds. The more pressure you have to complete a project, the harder you will work on it. And the best way to get that pressure is having a set date on when you are going to complete the project.

I saw a post from Apr 2016 saying how you were going to update the UI for your website, it doesn't look like anything has been done on that end. The website is a crucial part of success too. Of course, the product is the main thing, but theres nothing wrong with hiring a web developer.

Others might disagree, but I have been researching AGRS in several different websites. The main problem people have before investing is the website. They think it looks like a scam and that it hasn't been updated in so long that the project looks like it was abandoned months ago. If you look online, this is the only place to get any news for AGRS. That's not good man.

You HAVE enough money now to get this done, you have enough money now to work solely on getting alpha tau platform running. I expect no more excuses from you. I don't mind waiting another year for your project to be done, but you have to update us on what the fuck you are doing and what your plans are for the rest of the year.

And FFS stop changing your rules all the time. Stick to one thing and stop taking advice from everyone on this board. You can read public opinion, but in the end the decision is yours. The more you flip flop on stuff the less confidence we have in you.

The more I'm reading about this project, the more and more potential I see. But you need to update us, the people who have supported you thus far, on what the fuck you are doing. WE NEED MOTHER FUCKIN TIMELINES and a white paper ASAP. And for the love of god, update your website to modern times. Not something a middle schooler made in his computer science class.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: July 01, 2017, 02:16:58 PM

With all due respect, it has been over three years... why is this still in phase 1?


it is in a much more advanced phase. but it does seem like phase 1 that's correct. people who work with me know that there's so much beyond what is published. and indeed the current work is on publishing it.

ohad, I have heard you will finally publish the white paper this month, July 2017. Can you confirm, is this true? We will finally see the white paper in coming weeks? If not what is the next milestone for supporters to look forward to? Please provide some dates, at least for white paper, approximately..

+1 on this!!! Please answer this Ohad.

wait a minute... what happend if i have my coins in bittrex?? is going to be locked???

No man. Your coins in bittrex are not locked.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: July 01, 2017, 01:35:55 PM
So.... wheres the update that was supposed to happen...

in 38 mins

Looking forward to hearing from you but most updates should be told on your WEBSITE, not here.

In its current state, this project is for long term investors and traders. If you are neither, I don't think this is the right place for you right now. You should be looking for projects that you want to work with and things that make you happy. You're clearly not happy so, in my view you should find a project that you truly believe in.



I've found a few I believe in a lot actually. I'm already invested in them. I'm going to see his next update and make my decision from there if this project is worth getting into again. But how much longer are you willing to hold? Another 3 years? What if the project still isn't done then...

Honestly, I think if something is great, who cares how long it takes? It depends on your ability to be patient, and with startups you must trust the owner, as that's all you have. Everyone's appetite is different. Do what you feel really comfortable with never discussing again. Because for you, this is speculative and with speculative bets you must able to say "hey ho, that was fun, what's next" if you can't say that you've likely put in too much or you weren't really for the investment in the first place.

With all due respect, it has been over three years... why is this still in phase 1?
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: July 01, 2017, 01:25:08 PM
So.... wheres the update that was supposed to happen...

in 38 mins

Looking forward to hearing from you but most updates should be told on your WEBSITE, not here.

In its current state, this project is for long term investors and traders. If you are neither, I don't think this is the right place for you right now. You should be looking for projects that you want to work with and things that make you happy. You're clearly not happy so, in my view you should find a project that you truly believe in.



I've found a few I believe in a lot actually. I'm already invested in them. I'm going to see his next update and make my decision from there if this project is worth getting into again. But how much longer are you willing to hold? Another 3 years? What if the project still isn't done then...

Honestly, I think if something is great, who cares how long it takes? It depends on your ability to be patient, and with startups you must trust the owner, as that's all you have. Everyone's appetite is different. Do what you feel really comfortable with never discussing again. Because for you, this is speculative and with speculative bets you must able to say "hey ho, that was fun, what's next" if you can't say that you've likely put in too much or you weren't really for the investment in the first place.

You must be a very patient man because three years with nothing to show is too long for me.
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: July 01, 2017, 01:17:16 PM
I think it's important for Ohad to ignore the new players.  The majority of them are so short term. They're complaining about the website which, we've discussed multiple times. First Ohad will be releasing a mini alpha. Then, we'll begin on the more marketing efforts e.g. website later down the line in the future.

Lets face it, the only thing the website does is raise the price of the token, nothing more. As much as we'd like to see the price of the token go up, it must be backed by value that only Ohad can create. There is no value in a website right now, but there value in the product. All the information on Tau can be found within this forum and Ohad has had to unfortunately repeat himself about a trillion times.

Attention new players: Ohad will not be building the website. Original holders support him in this decision and are in favour of this decision.

If you don't understand what he's trying to build then this isn't the place for you. But, if you're long term and you want to understand what he's trying to build HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES. Then yes, hold. If not, I would try to find a project that you believe in. Why would you buy anything you don't like?

Us early adopters want Ohad to continue to develop and construct the idea in peace. The less time spent on this forum, the more work he gets done.

If you invested because someone told you to, that's on you. Only you can tell yourself to do something, the silver lining on that is that you had enough knowledge to generate money in the first place to even invest so you can always get back. Moral of the story, don't buy things you don't want or understand.

To Ohad - Ignore requests and continue to develop. We're entirely with you.

If you're a new supporter, please read through the forum, come to your own conclusion and let that be it.

Thanks

Can I do some rebuttals on this? This isn't to make Ohad look bad, rather this is to get the NEWCOMERS (which every project needs) educated on what is going on with Tau.

You say Ohad will be releasing a mini alpha.. then work on the marketing with website later on. Why isn't that written anywhere so newcomers can see that there is something going on here? You act like new people coming to support this project is a bad thing if they have a few questions about where the project is going. New comers are investing OUR money so we would like to know what our money is getting into.

You say there is no value in the website which is VERY VERY wrong. I've read a few posts around different crypto websites that are taken aback by the Tau project because the website looks like a scam. It doesn't take a lot of money to get the website remade, to get some good english translators to get the main idea across in a legible and clear manner.

You say the only place to get real information on the project is on bitcointalk which is a MAJOR issue. Everyone should be getting updates from the BLOG on their website, and USERS who believe in the Tau project should be updating us here. That's professionalism. Why does Ohad have to repeat himself a trillion times? Because there is no other place with concise info and a timeline about how his goals will be accomplished. Who wants to go through 100+ pages on this thread to find answers to the questions they have? NO ONE. We should be getting all our answers from a FAQ page on the Tau website, and if we have further questions, we should be able to come here and talk about them.

Ohad doesn't have to build the website, he can just hire someone to do that. The website is one of the easiest jobs in this whole thing and should be the first thing taken care of. That is one of the initial ways of getting people aboard your project. When you look at the website, it looks like something done by a middle schooler. Around the online cryptocurrency world, I have seen many people set off by the project because the website is shit.

And you're saying if we don't understand what he's trying to build this place isn't for us? So instead of a place we can go to get educated on what he is trying to build, we should just leave. wow you would be great at PR.

New users are not going to read through 100+ pages of this forum. Humans have low attention spans. This is why I humbly request Ohad to have someone work on his website and get that done first. Ohad can keep working on the Tau platform while someone else works on the website because IT WILL HELP raise more funds for the project in the long run.

Original investors don't mean shit. You guys are already in it for the long run. You need NEW investors to raise more money for this project and the best way to do that is to firstly get a better website. Secondly, you need to UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE on the progress of your work. No one new is going to want to invest when they see that you haven't updated your website in almost a year.

I know, Ohad, you need time to work on the project, but you really need to hire others to take care of the rest.
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: July 01, 2017, 12:58:33 PM
So.... wheres the update that was supposed to happen...

in 38 mins

Looking forward to hearing from you but most updates should be told on your WEBSITE, not here.

In its current state, this project is for long term investors and traders. If you are neither, I don't think this is the right place for you right now. You should be looking for projects that you want to work with and things that make you happy. You're clearly not happy so, in my view you should find a project that you truly believe in.



I've found a few I believe in a lot actually. I'm already invested in them. I'm going to see his next update and make my decision from there if this project is worth getting into again. But how much longer are you willing to hold? Another 3 years? What if the project still isn't done then...
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: July 01, 2017, 12:35:10 PM
So.... wheres the update that was supposed to happen...

in 38 mins

Looking forward to hearing from you but most updates should be told on your WEBSITE, not here.
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: July 01, 2017, 12:06:39 PM
This is a shit project with absolutely no momentum to get done. Anyone hating on me that I'm spreading FUD. I got out of it last night. But theres tons of other alt projects I have read about before, and this is the most unprofessional and childish one I have been a part of. I want to warn others, don't let your emotions get involved. This guy isn't going to do shit for you. 2 developers for a project like he is claiming is TOO little. You need a large team.

He needs a website rebranding, he needs to UPDATE people on his website, not only on this forum. He needs to get a team to develop this project faster. He needs to come out with a white paper. All you who keep supporting him are doing so blindly.

WE HAVENT SEEN HIM RELEASE SHIT! IT HAS BEEN OVER 8 MONTHS WITH ANY SORT OF UPDATE. OPEN YOUR EYES HE HASNT DONE ANYTHING and he is selling you these shitcoins then he will disappear when he cashes out your BTC.

You guys might think I'm trolling or whatever but I don't do that. I'm a 4th year medical student and I've researched enough coins to know when a project is headed downhill. This one is. People keep complaining about me spreading FUD. If the project was good, or if there was something tangible, you guys wouldn't say anything because his work would be proof enough.

I think we all, as a community, should demand Ohad make some major updates soon. I'm probably one of the few new posters here (I've lurked for a while) that actually went through this whole thread and it did not instill any confidence in the project for me.

I'll seriously bite my tongue if Ohad can come back with a good response to all these issues I just stated.
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: July 01, 2017, 04:08:23 AM
This is incredible to watch.


SO the price jumps 4x in a day becasue all the new tech?

The Whitepaper?

The roadmap?

The demo?

The wallet coin release?

Anything tangible?


NOPE..


Nothing Burger...



Chill out CNN

But he is right. nothing but speculation of a 10x price increase caused the price to go up. I still don't think this project will go anywhere. I'm not even a troll. Just a regular dude who chased the ride and got burned.

Do any of you people do your ------- homework?!

Here, let me help: http://tauchain.org

Sheesh. And stop being so naive and chasing high volume spikes with NO KNOWLEDGE of what you're doing.

This is the first time I chased a coin and I regret it. And what does that website tell me? It hasn't been updated in a long time so I don't know anything new thats going on with the project. Where is a specific timeline telling me when all the projects are going to be done?

The last time the project roadmap was updated was Apr 17, 2016, 2:20 AM, well over a year ago. The last time the blog was updated was Sep 10, 2016, 2:28 PM. There have been no new youtube videos.

The site needs a MAJOR rebranding.

How is that supposed to instill confidence in me as an investor of this shitcoin?
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: July 01, 2017, 03:54:17 AM
This is incredible to watch.


SO the price jumps 4x in a day becasue all the new tech?

The Whitepaper?

The roadmap?

The demo?

The wallet coin release?

Anything tangible?


NOPE..


Nothing Burger...



Chill out CNN

But he is right. nothing but speculation of a 10x price increase caused the price to go up. I still don't think this project will go anywhere. I'm not even a troll. Just a regular dude who chased the ride and got burned. We have nothing tangible after 3 years...  anyone with half a brain would know nothing will happen, especially knowing they only have 2 developers for a project that seems like it needs a whole team.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: June 30, 2017, 09:36:23 PM
For anyone who is asking this, Your coins are safe if you 1. Have them/OWN them on Bittrex, 2. Have them in the Omni wallet 3. Ohad has them.

Yes also they will 10X because he will stop selling them and will destroy to old ones not on any of the above. he took 3 years to complete something which is close to complete so that why it will 10X

He's far from completion man. If he was close, he would have given a legit date on when he will release alpha tau platform.

this. project will not be complete for at least another year
Make it another 3 years. If this dude was actually serious, he would have a team of developers working on his project right now. Instead, he asks people to practically donate money to him so he can have time to work on this project. And if he doesn't want his idea "stolen", have them sign a NDA and don't let them work on any project like this for the next few years.

He will either:

A) Disappear very soon

B) Never be able to complete the project alone

I was reading through this thread, and he couldn't even explain his idea articulately and said it's very difficult to explain. Anyone who has an idea they have been working on for over 3 years should be able to explain his idea to a new born baby.
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: June 30, 2017, 09:29:37 PM
For anyone who is asking this, Your coins are safe if you 1. Have them/OWN them on Bittrex, 2. Have them in the Omni wallet 3. Ohad has them.

Yes also they will 10X because he will stop selling them and will destroy to old ones not on any of the above. he took 3 years to complete something which is close to complete so that why it will 10X

He's far from completion man. If he was close, he would have given a legit date on when he will release alpha tau platform.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: June 30, 2017, 09:21:07 PM
3 years later and still pretty much no development.

We are all getting scammed.

Y'all sent bitcoins to a man for coins that will be worthless when he abandons the project.

Even if he doesn't abandon it, by how slow he has been working, we aren't going to see returns in a long long time.

First off not one person here is getting scammed, and the ONLY person trying to scam is you. You are spreading false information to hurt the other members, and drive the price down to buy more before July 1st.

Second, great things take time to accomplish. Having something like this to be flawless, and without bugs is a big issue. I know I can't wait to see the final product, and I am extremely excited for a better product than what we currently have available. He hasn't abandoned this, and if you know how to reach him he will tell you. Don't worry there is news coming July 1st.

Last, you should really at least disclose that you're wanting to buy more at a lower price. Instead of causing innocent people to lose money, you are the only person attempting to scam. That is simply because you were ignorant and ignored the upcoming events.


Go read the whole thread and tell me I'm scamming people.

You act like I'm a whale (Which I am far from), you are saying we will get news tomorrow (which we will not, and even if we do, what is the news tomorrow? Can you tell me. NO you can't because there will be NOTHING).

I've traded enough cryptos to know that this dude is NOT doing a good job. He's had three years to come out with something tangible and he has not. And how do you honestly discover the bugs of your product? Oh that's right, by RELEASING it and letting people play around with it.

He hasn't been structured at all. The first thing I look for in a good development team is organization which this dude has none of.

Lastly, I'm not trying to buy anymore. Most of my money is tied up in Antshares (A REAL PROJECT) and ETH. I couldn't give a damn about buying more AGRS. The price is at 30800 satoshi anyway, that's super low.

One more thing, you're an idiot thinking I can influence the prices on Bittrex OFF one forum. Millions of people use bittrex and don't even know about this forum. Your head is so deep in Ohad's ass, you aren't able to see the truth.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: June 30, 2017, 08:17:26 PM
@ohad, Shabbat shalom. Ani sportaee leumi lyisrael, veohev ma sheata oseh I'm agrs

Folks, a lot of misinformation and hype flying around today on this 10x thing. Can someone please explain the impact on market price?

There will be no impact on market price.

He will raise the price of coins by 10x that he sells DIRECTLY to customers so it will give him time to work on the project more. This will not affect the market price at all. Only thing it might do is raise the volume on bittrex for AGRS but without anything TANGIBLE we won't see any gains. Dude says he will release something soon without a set date given.

I don't believe in this guy at all. He's had the last three years to do something and he hasn't really done shit.

this is wrong sorry, he planned to raise the price by 10x. this is not the case anymore, pls get your facts right. as for the rest, its understandable if someone wants to see more results before he believes and invest, thats why no one is forced to get involved in this project Smiley

This is not the case anymore? What is the case then for my understanding? I've read the whole thread and that's what I'm seeing.
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: June 30, 2017, 08:03:44 PM
@ohad, Shabbat shalom. Ani sportaee leumi lyisrael, veohev ma sheata oseh I'm agrs

Folks, a lot of misinformation and hype flying around today on this 10x thing. Can someone please explain the impact on market price?

There will be no impact on market price.

He will raise the price of coins by 10x that he sells DIRECTLY to customers so it will give him time to work on the project more. This will not affect the market price at all. Only thing it might do is raise the volume on bittrex for AGRS but without anything TANGIBLE we won't see any gains. Dude says he will release something soon without a set date given.

I don't believe in this guy at all. He's had the last three years to do something and he hasn't really done shit.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network on: June 30, 2017, 07:53:58 PM
3 years later and still pretty much no development.

We are all getting scammed.

Y'all sent bitcoins to a man for coins that will be worthless when he abandons the project.

Even if he doesn't abandon it, by how slow he has been working, we aren't going to see returns in a long long time.
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