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61  Economy / Economics / Re: How cash is becoming a thing of the past | DW Documentary (Banking documentary) on: December 22, 2018, 09:29:42 AM
I think we'll eventually go cashless completely on the introduction of some sort of bio chip that contains all your details of your identity as well as allowing access to your stored funds, it will be used like a contactless bank card is now used except it will be an insert in to your forearm.
62  Economy / Economics / Re: U.S. stock market suffers worst week since 2008 financial crisis on: December 22, 2018, 09:27:56 AM
IMO the fear of standard equities would only raise the price of Bitcoin, so while I'm not happy the markets have suffered, having diversification in Bitcoin makes it somewhat better.

This theory never seems to add up. Stocks are an investment and for most people so is bitcoin. They're only aiming to grow their dollar accounts. If they're losing money in one market and withdrawing due to lack of funds then they won't move to another market, they'll move somewhere safe like bonds or just to a savings account.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Facebook to enter crypto market with WhatsApp stablecoin on: December 21, 2018, 03:06:21 PM
I think it's a great idea, everyone I know uses whatsapp, being able to use it to transfer small amounts of money to friends will be a great convenience. The less apps I can be signed up to the better. I wonder if it would be a free service or if there would be a fee attached to it.
64  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HOW CAN BITCOIN BE ACCEPTED TO BE USED AS A PAYMENT METHOD GLOBALLY? on: December 20, 2018, 01:18:44 PM
Bitcoin will only begin to be accepted globally when enough people demand it. Right now too many people still trust in FIAT currency and see little or no reason to use bitcoin. When that time changes and people start wanting to spend BTC then businesses will adapt to their needs or be left behind.
65  Economy / Economics / Re: Blockchain success stories on: December 20, 2018, 01:16:57 PM
I think you're right in that there have not been any major breakthroughs as of yet, companies are offering blockchain services (IBM) and even exploring the potential themselves but I've not yet come across any stories highlighting the adoption and the benefits. It could be that it is too soon for that, even if blockchain technology was adopted it would take some time to be able to see results and draw comparisons to previous methods/systems.
Well there are benefits and perks for the companies adapting the technology but they are in the long run because of the fact that crypto has not yet spread around the world and as soon as the demand for this currency rises high, we will be well off with the adoption.

No doubt, some will be evident pretty soon. But crypto could end up being a different story. I'm yet to come across any project which really needs crypto for their underlying utility to come true. The only true use cases that have been proven so far can all be achieved by bitcoin and they mostly come in wealth preservation and transfer.
66  Economy / Economics / Re: Blockchain success stories on: December 19, 2018, 10:43:29 AM
I think you're right in that there have not been any major breakthroughs as of yet, companies are offering blockchain services (IBM) and even exploring the potential themselves but I've not yet come across any stories highlighting the adoption and the benefits. It could be that it is too soon for that, even if blockchain technology was adopted it would take some time to be able to see results and draw comparisons to previous methods/systems.
67  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How I earn My 1st Bitcoin? on: December 19, 2018, 10:40:39 AM
For a large majority of people the best way to earn their first BTC is going to be to go to work and then spend their FIAT. Gone are the days when it's easy to earn a BTC or multiple BTC by doing small tasks, purely because the value of BTC is no so high.

Correct. I buy lots of small amounts of bitcoin a couple of times per month
added to this is my signature campaign and not so regularly so design jobs.

For low income earners or people with low disposable income achieving 1
bitcoin can be something of a mountain climb especially as the value goes
up that is why now as the market shifts down is a good time to aquire BTC.



It is the best approach for someone starting out and looking to acquire, it gives you a strong dollar cost averaging approach and ensures you're not overly committed too early on. There's nothing worse for a new investor than investing a significant sum of money only to see the BTC price halved inside a month.


I do not necessarily agree with your statement. A lot of people on this forum can tell you that they earned way more than 1 bitcoin by participating in signature campaigns. It takes a lot of discipline not to spend those coins that are earned on something else, but if you saved all the coins earned, then 1 bitcoin is definitely within reach.

Buying small amounts of bitcoin on a weekly/monthly basis from your salary will also get you there, but the Net profit to get to a profit of 1 bitcoin will take longer.  Roll Eyes

I did not say it's impossible, it is just much harder than it was previously. Signature campaigns are less frequent and also less rewarding than previously because ICOs are not as successful and many of the successful ones have realized that signature campaigns are not the best way to spend their marketing budget. Unless you get lucky on a great project then it's likely to take years to reach 1 btc, even at the current price. This is of course assuming you're a legit poster and are only doing one account at a time.
68  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How I earn My 1st Bitcoin? on: December 18, 2018, 10:20:21 AM
For a large majority of people the best way to earn their first BTC is going to be to go to work and then spend their FIAT. Gone are the days when it's easy to earn a BTC or multiple BTC by doing small tasks, purely because the value of BTC is no so high.
69  Economy / Economics / Re: Ohio Congressman: We can fund border wall with “WallCoin” ICO on: December 18, 2018, 10:12:19 AM
And how does it work in the real world?
You get your token that is backed up by 2 feet of wall and you get a bonus every month your portion of the wall has no tunnel drilled under it? Or does the wall comes with special gates and every drug dealer chooses the ones with the lowest fees?  Grin Grin Grin

This actually tops Maduro's plan with a coin that is supposedly backed by oil...which he plans on selling. Scammers should really watch more politics shows, they would come with better ideas that labeling vegetables or that skin care blockchain.


Oh god!!!!
Now that I checked his name, this guy is trying to regularize ICOs?
While he has no f*** clue what an ICO is.


I heard that they're actually going to build a wall which is habitable. And then each time you catch a Mexican trying to climb over your section of the wall you can hold them captive in your bit of the wall and force them to go out each day and mine bitcoin with nothing but a pickaxe. Just the word on the street.
70  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Daily Speculations on: December 18, 2018, 10:06:58 AM
Well, I don't have any graphs but I'd like to build on Finman's prediction. I think a lot of people have a similar viewpoint but they're assuming things remain static in that time. As of yet BTC has not proven itself to have enough utility, something drastically needs to change in terms of adoption. Even if it is not mainstream adoption but largescale adoption. That will enable BTC to have underlying utility and will then make it much more feasible as a store of value. That is where I see BTC's true acceptance, as a long term store of value and an alternative to gold.
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72  Economy / Speculation / Re: Tom Lee's final analysis of the year on: December 16, 2018, 06:25:49 PM
In any case, he also said that the market is wrong. He reasons that the price of bitcoin is below its fair value of $13k - $14k. However, I reckon the real price should be the price that the buyer wants to pay for, not what an analyst wants hehehe.


Market price is always the fair price, as you said. If enough people really believed it should be higher then it would be higher, vice versa lower. How does one even determine a fair value that is not the market price? What makes it fair?
73  Economy / Economics / Re: Ohio Congressman: We can fund border wall with “WallCoin” ICO on: December 16, 2018, 06:23:45 PM
Doesn't sound like an ICO, instead a crowdfunding event. I don't think they'd get anywhere near the level of funding required for such a large scale project. Also as the article spoke about, I'm not sure that the government can legally do such a thing.
74  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Bitcoin the ultimate hedge against the upcoming financial crisis? on: December 15, 2018, 10:05:04 AM
I think that bitcoin will suffer as much as fiat or more in a financial crisis. It's not proven itself to be a store of value and is still highly speculative in nature. Therefore people won't look to move from stocks (risky) to bitcoin (way riskier) if they're facing a financial squeeze.
75  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Biggest Rises and Falls of Bitcoin on: December 15, 2018, 10:03:15 AM
I think that overall we shouldn't look to history for too many answers but one thing it can tell us is how bitcoin has been through these catastrophic periods before and come out the other end stronger. That suggests that the potential upside for anyone investing now should far outweigh the downside. If you were 50/50 to bitcoin going to zero or recovering it would be wise to invest as much as sensibly possible.


I agre with you mate that's the reason government want bitcoin to regulate
Because of high volatility fluctuations people should knows about full history of how bitcoin moves inthe market
So this current downfall people knows how to control their greedy emotions


I don't think that the governments of the world really care too much about bitcoin volatility and people losing out to price swings. I believe that want to regulate bitcoin so that they can control it and the flow of money through it, it's a threat to sovereign currencies as well as being seen for a vehicle for illegitimate activities.
76  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Biggest Rises and Falls of Bitcoin on: December 14, 2018, 12:34:33 PM
I think that overall we shouldn't look to history for too many answers but one thing it can tell us is how bitcoin has been through these catastrophic periods before and come out the other end stronger. That suggests that the potential upside for anyone investing now should far outweigh the downside. If you were 50/50 to bitcoin going to zero or recovering it would be wise to invest as much as sensibly possible.
77  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC. on: December 14, 2018, 12:31:41 PM


  The best to not be very disappointed is by actually being prepared for the worst. if you know what could and may happen then you will be less vulnerable.



Of course not just in crypto but in other markets you should always be prepared. The problem with most investors is that they don't know the risk, or at least mitigate it. They think that the price will go on parabolic rise specially the peak last December. A lot of irrational buyers thought that the price would like to go above the $20,000 mark. They kept on buying at the top and selling at the dip, wherein it should be the other way around. Now they got burned and totally blamed the market. Also they don't know that bitcoin is good as a long term investment, so instead of selling off, they should be accumulating at this point and wait for the next coming months or years to be able to get a good ROI.

Even people making wise decisions will be faced with disappointment. And those making foolish decisions can still learn to deal with their disappointment. We do not live in a world of perfect foresight so it is inevitable that people will make incorrect decisions. The difference between the wise people and the unwise is that the wise are aware of this and therefore they are not disappointment in themselves and their actions.
78  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Playing the top crypto games on a budget on: December 13, 2018, 07:13:10 PM
I've always thought that the cost to get started in any of these games would be astronomically high, is it possible to make money from such a small starting investment? If yes, is it skill based or purely RNG?
79  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to avoid disappointments when investing in BTC. on: December 13, 2018, 07:08:17 PM
Disappointment is an interpretation of your reality, it is not your actual reality. Therefore everything is always up to your own mind to decide. Some people may lose everything they have and be distraught, others may shrug it off as a life lesson. You can minimize negative situations in your life but you'll always be faced with some and the only way to not be disappointed in those times is to learn how to handle negativity and turn it in to positivity.
80  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if bitcoin crashes to $1 overnight? on: December 13, 2018, 07:04:12 PM

Besides, if Bitcoin were to see that spectacular crash, why would it stop at $1? Why not parity with zero?

I have the same thoughts. LOL. Why not 0 @OP? Because its impossible to happen, you mean literally no person would never ever buy bitcoin to cause the price to plummet to $1? There's still a lot of bitcoin purist around so I don't think they will not take advantage of the prices to buy and be a bagholders. And the other indicators is that no miners doesn't want to mine bitcoin and that's hard to imagine as well.

Well it's slightly less interesting of a question at 0 dollars because then there's no way to sell or buy so it removes that aspect from people's answers. At $1 I think we'd see a lot of people loading up with thousands of BTC in the hope of some miraculous recovery. At 0 everyone would just get all bitcoin they could.
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