in case I lose access to any of my accounts here or elsewhere :
the receiving address will stay the same, I don't intend to change it.
can somebody please quote this post, thanx
Charlie has, on multiple occasions wanted to confirm that he was sending the bitcoin to the correct address prior to doing so. I think you are being overly dramatic and are trying to make a bigger deal out of a situation that is not a big deal. From what I can tell Charlie honored his end of the agreement, and you wanted to get paid sooner, and opened a scam accusation as a result. please bug out, you don't have the complete info on this story, you don't know all that was said behind the scene I have been patient and very polite |
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in case I lose access to any of my accounts here or elsewhere :
the receiving address will stay the same, I don't intend to change it.
can somebody please quote this post, thanx
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I agree, talk is cheap
20/60 paid
40 more to go
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This thread is getting pointless, please stop adding fuel to the Fire.
Whatever the issue was in the past, it's not worth talking about.
Threads don't "sink" nor does social pressure. If I scam you, you come right back here because I promised to pay and it would look worse if I don't.
You will be paid in full, I've alredy started. If I was going to scam you I would not even be responding here or I would argue with you.
I'm not arguing, so let's both relax be professional and adults.
- Charlie
don't call this thread pointless, it is worth 50 btc to me and please add another bolt to your statement, a time limit on all this, because, what if price goes up and you end up not being able to earn or buy enough btc on the market ? |
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the idea is to defuse social pressure and heat with time,
to let this thread sink,
and to not pay in full after all
the btc are still not coming in, title of the thread gets heavier as time passes...
you shall know them by their deeds ?
Maybe you should just both agree to a date by which all owed funds should be paid. It seems to me you agreed to partial payment for stock with the rest to be paid as he sold them. It seems your mistake was agreeing to an arrangement you didn't like in retrospect. Perhaps you two can set a date by which all funds must be paid. This way there is no confusion from anyone if the agreement is complete or not. it should have already been paid, long ago, that is what this thread is all about |
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the idea is to defuse social pressure and heat with time,
to let this thread sink,
and to not pay in full after all
the btc are still not coming in, title of the thread gets heavier as time passes...
you shall know them by their deeds ?
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Bracek, Is this you who keeps emailing me? See my messages above: a a
12:37 PM (3 minutes ago)
to me
OMG! you are doing like this because you don't want to send me BTC , let me back home and i will not be happy with you in forum , because if sameone wanna scam you that your problem , and you the one ask me to talk on email and to send you BTC adresse on Email for security now you wanna back to forum again , don't make me worried man, there more deals well do..
if you don't trust that is me create one btc account then send money on it and send me account infos here !
thank you for wasting my time . Forget everything else, Im trying to figure out of the person emailing me is really you. See here for more emails: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=817069.msg9154693#msg9154693 Let me know, or private PM me the address you want the Bitcoin sent to from now on. -Charlie I am not sending any of that, ignore all of it, why did you ever want to drag the comunication to emails anyway ? lets just keep it here in the open actually, no need for any communication, just send to this address 1EYn7SvBGm6PGgzq6XCQ74MB5RXvRT7USd |
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So far the only address I have confirmed is this one:
1EYn7SvBGm6PGgzq6XCQ74MB5RXvRT7USd
yes, the only one,
it will not change, send only there
ignore all emails, all are fake
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I suspect he's going to continue to gripe here, but hopefully not.
BTW, Charlie, I like the way you are handling this. Very concerned about your reputation, but not disrespectful or aggressive.
I think we have here a case where two parties ultimately disagree on what the original agreement was. From the perspective of the rest of us, neither is "right" or "wrong." They just need to work it out, or else leave each other alone. To sit and hurl insults and scam accusations in such a case like was done here is very bad form, IMO.
I must continue, because of my suspicions that teh strategy is to stall to defuse the social pressure, and maybe not pay later, excuse me for thinking out loud, I am not accusing of anything, just a thought that crossed my mind of how it looks like and I also think this is being handled very well by both of us, considering the stakes |
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The issue is, I made the mistake and prematurely advanced him coins, therefore setting a precedent.
So, I understand when he saw I sold some of the other coins he wants the additional BTC.
Anyways, were working it out so no worries.
in your messages, you explicitly said that you have sold the coins and sent me exact amounts which was it, advance or actual sales ? why is all the info so fuzzy ? |
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I am glad we started to settle the deal finally
the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?
why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell
but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?
There is nothing unusual going on here at all. I advanced you BTC before I sold all your physicals. I sent you about 160 BTC total. -Charlie since you made the receiving address public, people can see it has not received 160 btc, why the constant augmenting of good stuff, and downplaying the bad, lets keep it as it is |
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I am glad we started to settle the deal finally
the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?
why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell
but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?
It's already been explained in the thread that his understanding of the agreement was that you would be paid when he sold the coins, not when he received them from you. yes, but you don't know what I have been told through pm's |
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I am glad we started to settle the deal finally
the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?
why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell
but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?
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Hey Bracek,
Please email me your Bitcoin address and I will take care of this. Ive never scammed anyone and dont intend to now.
You have my phone number, email, address and everything. I wish you would contact me that way instead of making "charlie shrem is a scammer thread"
@Bracek - Since you are all about being so public about things, why don't you say publicly why you did not pick up the phone and give him a call? There are many other ways to get ahold of someone other then PMing then on here and opening a scam accusation. He has said many times that you have his contact information but all your response is that you want "your" money. IMO you are being unprofessional and greedy first, what is your interest in this ? second, read carefully what I wrote here in this thread, you will have enough to answer your questions yourself |
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I got 10 btc from Charlie, he sent them just now
so 50 more remaining
I am going to sleep now, will be back in 10 -15 hours
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I do answer your questions, privately. We are now speaking through email.
Thanks for responding.
just for the record, you did not answer almost all of my questions should I repeat them all in one place ? |
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the story continues,
I guess he logged out
first he made insinuations that he could sue me for ruining his reputation,
but he is not in hurry to finish this fast ?
he told me to send address to his gmail,
why not copy paste it while he was here ?
what kind of game is it ?
I sent the address to his gmail...
I got your email, we will continue to discuss this there, not here. I have not insulted you. You made the drastic step of accusing me as a scammer on the forums so I am going to continue this conversation privately with you. -Charlie I don't want to talk, just my money and we are through... we were not friends before this, so why would we converse now or later ? and about what ? you never answer my questions anyway, so why the call to "conversation" ? lets get it over with, there is a very quick way to end this all |
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the story continues,
I guess he logged out
first he made insinuations that he could sue me for ruining his reputation,
but he is not in hurry to finish this fast ?
he told me to send address to his gmail,
why not copy paste it while he was here ?
what kind of game is it ?
I sent the address to his gmail...
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It said "last login today" because I logged in to view your message when you went on reddit to call me a scammer.
maybe I wrote it unclear, I checked before, and at those times it said that you logged in that day, which was written as "logged in today"
that is what I meant to say
Since then I have not been on the forums in a week, you can see my post history.
I wil believe only if admin says you did not log in
but, you have hat that money long before, and the address to send
You do have my phone number, and my address, thats how you mailed me packages.
I don't need your phone to send you packages
why are yo imputing that all the time ?
And I am not rude. I sent you over 150 BTC already and have not sold all the coins.
that is why I asked for the payment after I saw in the thread they were sold
Because I asked you to EMAIL ME like 5 times and you haven't done it and ignored me.
I am saying here, send to same address as the previous payments, as I said in pm here.
Why is it important to send message to your email ?
I sent it here in pm, what i sthe problem with that ?
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lets just finish this,
why are btc not on the way ?
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