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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CYBER - dec-zed Google | Looking for Validators | Cuda | Nvidia | Tendermint | on: January 10, 2020, 12:14:35 PM
We have launched Euler-5, an incentivized testnet for validators across and builders of the great new web.

The full rules can be found in our blog post.

The key idea behind the Game of Links is to establish a starting value of relevance on the knowledge graph. It is crucial for getting quality search results from the inception of the network. All the disciplines are an integral part of the preparation and testing of the network before its mainnet launch.

Goals:

- To carry out publicly incentivized testing of cyberd and Ethereum contracts before the launch of the mainnet
- To demonstrate the search, with the use of an experimental knowledge graph, filled with useful cyberlinks
- To distribute up to 6% of CYB tokens to the validators who will participate in pre-genesis takeoff donations. The amount is dependent on the number of donated ATOMs
- To distribute up to 4% of CYB tokens to the participants of 7 the disciplines of the game, depending on how many participants win against cyber~Congress

To start validating, follow this guide
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CYBER: A decentralized Google and a supercomputer for answers on: January 10, 2020, 12:00:53 PM
We have decided to make a single place for all the mentions of cyber out in the wild. So if you find any mentions about cyber out there feel free to drop them at our forum.

There are also some new releases:

- cyberd 0.1.5 release. The app hash is QmaDLD95aHrMDTETvfKrF4CfjZwjHUjx9jE1ecQH8SMbts and cyberdcli ipfs hash is QmeUfqRYNghri1ExQY5gY5HT3uVRbyrjGzwtxrXHUETnGG
- cyber.page 0.1.0 release. The app hash is QmRy96Kiba4oYs5dqYGrTmvZbwMUdHh5nLQmqY1wsXwpvU
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Distributed Supercomp. for Answers on: December 14, 2019, 11:16:27 AM
You should check the ELI-5 FAQ to see some explanations in plain language. The FAQ is available on our GitHub. I mean for references to As to how its different. I posted a picture of comparison here, but I think it also got deleted. Unfortunately BTT keeps deleting links when I post them Sad
Interplanetary is a reference to IPFS. It means it can work anywhere as long as a signal is send and received.
Right now its infrastructure mode. But its all publically available already (requires some technical skills to set it up and use the CLI). We will be making some new application releases until the end of the year, but you should be aware that they are highly unstable (the applications) and should be used only for testing.
Final releases are not due until mid 2020. Our point of concentration is the infrastructure right now, as to decentralise this, it needs infrastructure.
(When you are on GitHub, just go to /cybercongress/ecosystems/ELI5FAQ

Oh, and yes. euler 5 is coming. The games are about to begin. I will post more info next week when the guides are ready
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Distributed Supercomp. for Answers on: December 09, 2019, 06:51:53 PM
We have released an Explain it like I'm 5 guide to help people understand what cyber is. The full FAQ can be found on our GitHub.

What is cyber?
The explanation below is NOT going to be simple, so please do not be put off by it. All the terminology used in the first explanation WILL be explained in detail later in this document. Let me assure you, that if you keep on reading, you will be able to understand Cyber with almost zero previous knowledge.

Cyber is essentially creating a brand new protocol (a procedure that helps computers to do things in a certain way) for adding and searching information onto a knowledge graph (a compilation of facts about something that provides meaning to the user). And rank this information.

Different types of users create links between 2 IPFS hashes (keep on reading to see what this is) and place them on a knowledge graph by spending bandwidth (amount of data that can be transmitted over a fixed period of time).

That content is then dynamically ranked with the help of digital tokens and the current parameters of the networks load. This makes the rank dynamic (characterized by continuous change, activity, or progress).

All this is computed (determined with the help of a computer) by validators (a program or a computer that are responsible for checking the validity of something). The validators do so, by using their GPU's (literally - graphics cards).

This allows to search data on the web, rank it, query it (look it up) and create knowledge databases without blackbox intermediaries (third parties that try to censor data, hide or push specific results to obtain money, track your data, etc).

The interesting thing is that such a simple mechanism allows creating a lot of powerful tools as a result. We will go in-detail further down the document into those. For example: unified semantics, SEO instruments, autonomous robots, and a lot more.

What cyber is NOT?
Cyber is not a commercial product. In fact, it is not a product as such. It is an instrument if you wish, or a tool, that anyone can use. That said, cyber allows for several ways for its participants to earn rewards.

Cyber is not THE new internet. It is a tool that can help to shape and to decentralize (distribute the power of authority) the new Great Web.

What problem are you trying to solve?
We are trying to solve the problem of data centralization and data censorship. Which in other words, is decentralization of common knowledge (assuming that data is the new knowledge and that we are moving into the digital age).

Why are you doing this?
Each person should be able to control their own data, their identity, their knowledge. The universe can become a better place if our children live in a digital environment where they are in charge of their actions.

What's wrong with Google?
Google is a brilliant idea. We do not deny this. But Google is the rebel that has overthrown the dictator and became the dictator itself. Google uses you to shape the essence and the fundamentals of communications between everyone and everything. Whilst at it, Google doesn't care for anyone and will make money on your action and your behalf.

It should be noted, that by this question I am attempting not just at Google, but at all the mega-digital corporations. Feel free to check out what this can lead to in the shape of Cambridge Analityca. If this case is too much to take in or too "loud" for you, feel free to watch some episodes of Black Mirror to see how digital control can "break" society.

Why now?
Because we are almost done with post-industrialism. We are slowly and surely moving into the digital realm. One can deny or accept this. Now is the time to either have the tools that will help us to shape the matrix the way we want to shape it or give those powers away to someone to control all aspects of our lives.

Why search?
Search is a global mechanism that is globally understood by everyone, regardless of language, race, age, etc. It is somewhat a basic instinct (searching for food to survive, etc). In the digital realm with the help of search, we gain answers to our questions, which we always ask. Search helps us to build a model around any subject that is of interest to us. With the use of search, we can build databases, which can lead to a great number of useful instruments (on these later).

Aren't there other, more important problems to solve?
There probably are. But we decided to focus on this because we understand how to achieve the required result. There are probably more problems and questions to be solved (like hunger, wars, ecology, etc). Our tool can help to play a role in solving if not all, but some of these.

Aren't there other things out there that solve this?
There is a lot of awesome, open-source technology on the market that can commit to making a change in the world. Most of the technology we use is not something we invented (although the code itself is written from scratch!). They are technologies that have existed previously and are awesome at doing what they do. Our software is a combination of existing technologies, protocols and our own work that has arisen from this. It is specifically targeted at fixing what is broken.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Distributed Supercomp. for Answers on: December 03, 2019, 01:18:53 PM
I decided to add a high-level explanation to what it is we do in the form of a blog post:

The dawn of the great web
** Warning, what you about to read may affect your future…*

Original protocols of the Internet, such as: TCP/IP, DNS, URL, and HTTP/S have brought the web to a stale point. Considering all the benefits that these protocols have produced for the initial development of the web; along with them, they have brought significant obstacles to the table.

Introducing cyber: An inter-planetary search engine & a state of the art consensus computer, built with the help of go-IPFS and cosmos-SDK. Cyber introduces a protocol for provable communication between consensus computers of relevance. Based on a simple idea of content defined knowledge graphs generated by web3-agents via the use of cyberlinks - a simple, yet a powerful semantic construction for building a predictive model of the universe.

Our values
I could theoretically go straight to the point (and if you are eager to know more, simply skip to the next section), but I think it is vital to state that values are what keeps the world spinning around (or rather what keeps it from spinning around the wrong way).

We do not believe in captchas. We do not believe in KYC. We do not believe in licensing and any other similar to the above-mentioned bullshit. We do believe in code. We believe in innovation and in making use of our knowledge to make the world a slightly better place for our children.

With that in mind, what I'm trying to say, is that cyber and cyb are not just technological results. They are much more. At its base lay the values of the team behind cyber. We hope that our project can re-create certain values of what we believe the blockchain paradigm stands for. With that said, we are open to communication and will be happy for any feedback on our code, on our Github and our telegram channel.

The solution
I must say that there is no simple way to describe cyber without the use of technical jargon. Hence, below I may have substituted some technical words to draw out analogies. For more information, please visit our Github and see our launch FAQ for more information.

To keep this somewhat short, I will not go into any details in this article, as per why, there are issues (technologically and ideologically) with the current web and how it infects us, similar to a virus in every aspect of our lives.

The web needs a change. blackbox intermediaries, such as: Google, Amazon or Facebook became religions. Information is tampered with. Cyber uses the already available brand-new web-stack to deliver the Great Web to everyone who wishes to join it. A true web-3 technology. The first of its kind. Allowing for a fair and an incentivized general-purpose search of real and relevant answers.

Within the network, web3-agents generate knowledge graphs with the use of what we call cyberlinks. A cyberlink is simply a link between two content-based links. This allows for a naturally semantic link, which is needed for the computation of relevance of subjects and objects within the knowledge graph.

IPFS provides significant benefits with regards to resource consumption. Cyber links and IPFS provide us with the superpowers that were inaccessible to previous architectures of general-purpose search engines.

We must agree on the things we do, and here is where cyber introduces a consensus computer, its implementation is a 64-bit Tendermint consensus computer of relevance for 64-byte string-space. The computer process the links, along with computation, storage and the bandwidth. Computation and storage in case of a basic relevance machine can be easily predicted based on bandwidth; but bandwidth requires a limiting mechanism.

The relevance machine
The relevance machine is in some way a mirror of the will of the universe that surrounds us. It enables a simple construction for the search mechanism via querying and delivering answers, based on the will of the agents building the knowledge graph.

Instead of deducting the meaning inside of the consensus computer (and returning to the blackbox principle), we have designed a system in which extraction of meaning is incentivized. This is achieved due to agents needing CYB tokens to express their will, based on which, the relevance machine can compute rank.

With the help of Resource Credits (RC) and an agents stake, we build a very simple bandwidth model. The principal goal of this model is to reduce the daily network growth to a given constant. This is done to accommodate validators with the ability to forecast any future investment into infrastructure. RC and recovery windows allow the network to determine bandwidth and its load.

The relevance machine works just like the human mind in that it neither - stores the past, nor the current full state, to maintain usefulness. Or more precisely, it remains: relevant. Always. As a result, the cybernomics of CYB tokens, serves not just as will-expression and spam-protection mechanisms. It also functions as an economics regulation tool that can align validators processing the knowledge graph, and as demand for market processing.

cyber~Rank
IPFS hashes (or content identifiers or CIDs) are vital for the network. CIDs as primary objects are robust in their simplicity. For every CID, cyber ~Rank is computed by a consensus computer without a single point of failure. cyber ~Rank is a CYB (token) weighted PageRank, with economic protection from sybil attacks, and self-centred voting. Every round the Merkle root of the rank tree is published. Consequently, every computer can prove to any other computer a relevance of value for a given CID. The rank is calculated by using the outgoing and the incoming weight of the current state of the staked tokens in the system, that are used to form the CIDs, and the current and previous ranks in the system.

Ironically, the ranking mechanism is based on none other but the PageRank – yes, that was developed by Sergey Brin and Larry Page. The key problem with the original PageRank is that it wasn’t resistant to sybil attacks. However, a token-weighted PageRank is limited by a token-weighted bandwidth model, and does not inherit such problems as the native PageRank. It is resistant to sybil-attacks. The beauty behind the ranking mechanism is that it only accounts for the current intention of the agents and it encourages rank inflation of cyberlinks. At first, this might seem a bit unclear. But, it is vital for the system not to be interfered with (ensured by the agents stake against a CID) and is essential in order not to get cemented in the past. As new cyberlinks are continuously added, they dilute the rank of the already existing links proportionally. This means that this is a constantly self-evolving, mind-like mechanism.

Web-3 and DAO
We couldn't find a real web-3 browser (not a web2 based pseudo-tech), so we implemented our own. Cyb can be easily delivered from any P2P network. It allows embedding objects into snippets, which means that a web3-agent can interact with the search results directly… For example, you could buy items directly in cyb, and thanks to a transparent conversion, e-commerce can flourish and in turn - develop local markets. More so, those snippets can be interactive, meaning you could play a game, view a wallet balance, etc - directly from your browser.

Some of the donated funds to cyber will be run by an Aragon DAO. cyber doesn't just have a community-run fund, but also a DAO-managed blockchain, which functions under the Tendermint consensus algorithm with a standard governance module. Together allowing for a community-run governance mechanism for the fund and for the chain itself.

The unimaginable future
The future is unimaginable, but it has a shape. At its base lay information. The alchemy of today is being able to process that information.

Our proposed semantics of linking data offers a robust mechanism for predicting meaningful relations between objects by the consensus computer itself. The source-code of the relevance machine is open-source. Every bit of data accumulated by the consensus computer is available to anyone if one has the resources to process it.

Though the system presents the necessary utility to allow an alternative for a conventional search engine, it is not limited just to this use case. The system is extendable for numerous applications and makes it possible (for example) to design economically rational, self-owned robots, that can autonomously understand objects around them. It is also possible to construct cyberlinks with ’proof-of-location’ based on remarkable existing protocols such as Foam, hence creating a provable location linked object.

cyber allows for programmable semantics. Currently, the developers of successful apps have very limited ability to explain to Google how to structure search results in a better manner. The cyber approach gives this power back to developers. Developers are now able to target specific semantics cores and index their apps as they wish.

cyber allows for off-line search! IPFS makes it possible to easily retrieve a document from such an environment without a global internet connection. cyberd itself can be distributed by using IPFS. This creates the possibility for ubiquitous, off-line search!

Don’t believe, don’t fear, don’t ask – cyber...
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Distributed Supercomp. for Answers on: December 02, 2019, 10:34:49 AM
We have made a release of our White Paper. For now, it can be found here.
Would love to hear any feedback on the document itself.
The Wp contains the current vision of the protocol, main functions, formulas for rank calculation and the main description of the protocol.
It also contains some ideological background and an apps section. Those are the possible apps that we think can be implemented in the future with the help of the protocol. 
67  Local / Новости / Re: Urbit: ‘Виртуальная Галактика’ для Биткойн-узл on: November 27, 2019, 12:58:40 PM
Ищем хакера на Хуне, само-собой баунти прилогпется. Кому интересно, вот тут подробнее: https://groups.google.com/a/urbit.org/forum/#!topic/dev/E7vxrY7p_nM
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Distributed Supercomp. for Answers on: November 27, 2019, 10:24:15 AM
maxcapibarius,

1) By nemby - I was referring to your status on BTT, I do not see how this is an issue. It says it directly under your name. If that offended you, my apologies
2) No, I did not know who you were until now. And even now, it took me a while to find out this information.
3) I will keep this answer short, as I do not see it any other way:
The project is in testnet, it says all over the place (github, readmes, etc) thats this is a non custodial solution that should be used at your own risk.
I didn't make that decision, but I believe it was the right decision that was made by the team at the time.
Things may still change. Even now. Anyone who uses this soft must understand that it can be insecure, buggy and prawn to changes until a functioning release is made. Then the community may take that release and work with it as it wishes.

To my personal belief this is the thing with open-source tech mate. The final beaty if this is very simple IMO. If you do not agree with something - you fork it out, change what you believe wasn't right and do it your way. The open market will put things in place.

I do not wish to engage in this discussion (I just simply do not agree with you), but I have kept the thread open (not self-moderated, as I highly value transparency) so it is up to you to decide on whatever you want to say.

As you can see though, you are the only community member that has this opinion 

 

69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Distributed Supercomp. for Answers on: November 26, 2019, 01:13:56 PM
BTT keeps deleting all my messages. And Im not sure as to why this is happening (
Those include network updates, news and answers to the participants of the thread. Hoping this will go thorough!

In reply to the newby above. I am not sure what you are talking about. All of the rewards are public. Please use the launch-kit repo to validate your validations, provide a hash and get your rewards  Shocked

70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Distributed Supercomp. for Answers on: November 23, 2019, 05:00:28 PM
Upon seeing this, it will become interested for me, I would like to be part of this project when it will start, the propose platform is innovative and creative that's what we want to see that much far from this present blockchain innovation.

Hey. Thanks for your feedback.
I would like to point out that the project has actually started. You can already join the dev net as a validator in order to see how it functions. Validators that validate blocks during the test nets are entitled to receive part of the inflation as a reward. Also you will be able to participate in the game of links, cyber Auction and much more. Im in the midst of preparing a FAQ as to whats all this is simple terms. Hopefully I can publish it by beginning of next week. For now, all that info is available through out our GitHub.

Will be glad to answer questions if you have any
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Distributed Supercomp. for Answers on: November 13, 2019, 05:36:38 PM
Just a short update from our dev meeting:

Forwarded from our TG channel
Good news!

We have successfully tested the needed cases using the internal devnet and are ready to launch the community devnet - Euler-5 the coming week. Last week @savetheales released part of the launch-kit for calculating and validating Euler-4 rewards. 5 validators have already mentioned their success in calculating the hashes. We are calling all others to also do so!

Right now we have successfully built by using the upgraded launch-kit genesis file for the devnet, which includes the calculations for the Ethereum and Cosmos gifts.

The community devnet will launch along with Euler-4 rewards, Ethereum and Cosmos gifts. There will be a lot of work with governance for adjusting rank and bandwidth params; load testing.

Two days ago, the Cosmos team released a branch for IBC testing where we are actively contributing to the testing. We made cross-chain transfers using two independent chains, and I can say that everything works fine in general. A huge step for the Cosmos community and all of us!

In regards to this, I have decided to launch the Gaia devnet with IBC support from cyber~Congress. The reason behind it was to start preparing our community to work with IBC on our IBC hub, and contributing to the testing of IBC v1.0, which will be released along with Cosmos-SDK 0.38 (also maybe with onchain upgrades!).

We are actively following this



Join our dev meeting (in a bit) on our tg channel if you're interested (will share the latest updates on the dev net launch):

https://twitter.com/cyber_devs/status/1197127548423020544?s=19

72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Knowledge Consensus Supercomputer on: November 12, 2019, 09:29:52 AM
Quote
Our values:

We do not believe in captchas. We do not believe in KYC. We do not believe in licensing and any other similar to the above-mentioned bullshit. We do believe in code. We believe in innovation and in making use of our knowledge to make the world a slightly better place for our children.

This is one of the statement that caught my attention, Simply and Intact! Absolutely, INNOVATION is what we need today, blockchain are already invented all we need is to focus on INNOVATION.

Glad you noticed this! I'll be honest with you, after spending 7 years in the space roughly and meeting in-person guys from top projects (I shall not name those here). I am a bit disappointed that most of them don't have any core values. This can be expressed in terms of "taxation" or in terms of not understanding why blockchain matters (regardless of its monetary values) to humans =(

My last visit to Baltic Honey Badger in Riga (which was an amazing event overall, filled with great people) just proved it. A few of the speakers I spoke to, didn't care about anything but either publicity or money. It's ashame really.

I'm glad too that someone in the blockchain and crypto industry saw the vision, yeah I really agree with your statement, if we have the technology (Blockchain) why some of the project needs KYC etc etc. What if, if they begin to start to look what technology inside the blockchain that we don't need KYC or other things and take advantage with it.

Exactly...

The whole KYC / AML story with blockchain pretty much like the story with centrasingly running your nodes. And I guess I'm doing the undoable here by advertising a side project - but Urbit solves this. Check it out. In fact we believe in Urbit so much we decided to give 1% of the total supply to them, just because. period.

Back to Cyber - we are utterly discouraged by the modern practises of centralizing crypto assets. And want to do whatever we can to prevent this. Hence no KYC, no AML. No bullshit.

I guess Cyber also gives you the power back with your most meaningful - ideas and thoughts. In the terms that you can finally compute your own knowledge and your own thoughts (without any intermediaries). After all the biggest religion of today is, of course - Google. But that's not ok. We believe this should be changed.
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Knowledge Consensus Supercomputer on: November 11, 2019, 02:49:22 PM

I have checked also how to become a validator and seems that it is not too complicated.

@dev, I'm compiling your main.tex file but it is giving me error in line 45.



I even tried xelatex and lualatex, but to no avail.
I'm using TexShop Version 4.44 (4.44)
Can you share the final output instead? Want to see what you have here. Thanks.

Fixed this now. Please use Xelatex. But please bare in mind that the fix is in a pull request (mind you, it has the latest grammatical fixes too. so I'd use it, rather than what's in the master).

I guess for now, it's best to just pull it from my fix. Thanks for understanding!



Quote
Our values:

We do not believe in captchas. We do not believe in KYC. We do not believe in licensing and any other similar to the above-mentioned bullshit. We do believe in code. We believe in innovation and in making use of our knowledge to make the world a slightly better place for our children.

This is one of the statement that caught my attention, Simply and Intact! Absolutely, INNOVATION is what we need today, blockchain are already invented all we need is to focus on INNOVATION.

Glad you noticed this! I'll be honest with you, after spending 7 years in the space roughly and meeting in-person guys from top projects (I shall not name those here). I am a bit disappointed that most of them don't have any core values. This can be expressed in terms of "taxation" or in terms of not understanding why blockchain matters (regardless of its monetary values) to humans =(

My last visit to Baltic Honey Badger in Riga (which was an amazing event overall, filled with great people) just proved it. A few of the speakers I spoke to, didn't care about anything but either publicity or money. It's ashame really.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Knowledge Consensus Supercomputer on: November 11, 2019, 08:31:24 AM
where can see more info about core team and devs?

Our GitHub page contains a team folder with links to our profiles that we believe should be public. A lot of information on our website with youtube video links.
You are also welcome to join our devchat. We are all there
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Knowledge Consensus Supercomputer on: November 10, 2019, 06:34:32 PM

i guess when i say "public"  i mean started a thread on a FORUM, not traveled to local events (theres 1000's yearly worldwide they are impossible to sift thru)
im sure you guys hung out on twitter where noone can have any real conversations and people censor/block anything they dont wanna hear, but that holds no value to some (believe it or not)
i just wish this woulda been announced here months ago when it started is all i'm saying, a.k.a "public" as in grassroots public, not crypto twitter/github public Sad
you have private angels i get it, they need fresh krill, but it wont be me sorry.     This is only imo of course, im sure the institutional dudes will love it haha
I look forward to seeing this evolve! Good Luck  Smiley

Thanks for your feedback again!

Not sure what you mean by institutional dudes - sorry (((

The projects has been funded out of our own pockets, for a while. We don't have private angels that need a "fresh kill". 

We don't do KYC / CAPTCHAS / Email registrations / AML / and all that other bingo bullshit - we really couldn't care less for any of this. We don't simply state what we do - we act on that behalf.

It is announced now, because I believe that announcing "dead" projects (without code / working testnets / documentation, etc) is somewhere along the lines of asking people to buy FIAT stocks. No, thanks.

Misleading people into buying something that is idea based - no thanks. We have been long enough in the space to not do those mistakes.

Early validators got a drop in the ocean out of the total supply and they deserved much more IMO. I don't believe that asking people to do free work is a fair game. Sorry.

76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications [Windows/Linux/MacOSX] on: November 10, 2019, 05:57:24 PM
Hey all!

Anyone here holding cuda and looking for new projects to use their computation power?

We are looking for validators that are interested in computing knowledge graphs using cuda.

I did a small intro post here and opened an ann topic here with lots more info, required specs and other relevant detail.

IMHO it could be a good opportunity to diversify the use of your cards at the very least.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Knowledge Consensus Supercomputer on: November 10, 2019, 11:10:16 AM


it kinda sux that the rewards have been private members only till now, gonna be like VBK and when this goes mainnet there will be millions of coins from testnet carried over? : /
kinda feels like "ok we got our bags full, now time to go public" Sad   ill still probably participate as a validator, but i definitally suggest others beware speculating when this hits exchanges haha
i know i will be Tongue  learnt that lesson b4 on these type distros lol.  its not bad when its public, but ya when private groups stack in private THEN go public after thats kinda sketchy to me : /




We haven't been private at all. We have been public since day one. Talking about the project at conferences, and some chats. Of course, you have to understand that the project is self funded at this moment and resources aren't as big as we would like them to be (((

So, yeah, I guess we are trying as best as we can to tell the world about this. And hoping people like you can help us in that mission =)

BTW, there has only been 1 incentivized testnet so far, this means that there are still a lot (and I mean A LOT, for example the distribution games plus our 10% gift of the total supply) more to come. Also please consider what was already mentioned above by Gangster-Hamster - testnet validator aren't getting the largest orf rewards in the world (then again we cannot employ them for free).

So I believe that now is the right chance to jump in ;-)




Ah okay, got your point here. Didn't know that it is still unfinished business.
But anyway, yes, I can read what is the content of the document and use the overleaf instead.
I just thought when I was compiling that I can view it in pdf afterwards.
No worries then. Better make the document ready for everyone's consumption. Thanks!

You are more than welcome to leave any comments that you would like about the paper (the content I mean), it would be highly appreciated and valued!

If you do have any, you are welcome to open an issue in this repo . It is peer reviewed after all  Roll Eyes
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Knowledge Consensus Supercomputer on: November 09, 2019, 02:02:56 PM
Oh my I got to peruse some web to find me some more relevant infos on this one. This does look super appealing but Im doubtful a lone guy or a couple guys behind this announcement have the capacity and resources to their disposal to pull this out. I think Im also gonna hook up to become a validator. Tendermint + cyber = google killer hell ya. We will see if this gets more attention in the coming months.

I'm glad you bring the matter of being able to pull it off. 

Some of what we talk about is already functioning. Or shall I say "The beast is working" =)

I agree with you that what we plan is pretty much impossible to pull off for a single being /entity. Hence, we believe in the power open-source. This is why we need validators, a strong community of engineers and researchers. This is why we believe that funding issues on gitcoin can help us to attract the right people that can help us to build this.  This is why we drop the communities we drop and plan a hell of a lot more to come. We believe in collaboration. Strongly.

We honestly believe that what we are trying to buidl, by all means, should be a community effort rather than our own. This is why it's all open-source. This is why we are happy for people to come and fork us or build together with us  Wink
BTW, we hope that people will fork this and/or build their own implementations on top of cyber. For example specifically purposed knowledge graphs, rather than a general knowledge graph alone.

Will be awesome seeing you as a validator when the next testnet starts. I'm really excited that people find this idea (and its current implementation) as exciting as we do.

If I may add more thing - please check out our GitHub. I am positive you will be pleasantly surprised as to how far this already is.

#fuckgoogletogether =)   
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Knowledge Consensus Supercomputer on: November 09, 2019, 11:21:01 AM
ooo this is pretty cool, <3 me some Tendermint, i think its one of the more interesting validation methods being developed right now
i need to get me some more info on this one, still in testnet i see? so not too late for us plebs to maybe become validators?
Very exciting to see this here finally, as i have heard about it here and there in the Cryptosphere over the last year or so Smiley


Its the right time to become a validator right now. Well. We are in between euler-4 and euler-5 (two testnets). They are both incentivised, meaning that if you decide to run a validator during the comin testnet, you will receive part of the inflation when the testnet will launch. We also have some distribution games planned for the validators very soon.

We are preparing a launch-kit repo, which will explain all those things within 1 - 2 weeks. So I advise to follow our TG channel. I will also try po post updates here of course!

BTW, I advise you to check out how big validating on tendermint (and beyond) has become over the last year. Not only a lot of the projects are alive, developing and constantly releasing, but a lot are actually doing very useful things for the industry in terms of R&D =)




@dev, I'm compiling your main.tex file but it is giving me error in line 45.



I even tried xelatex and lualatex, but to no avail.
I'm using TexShop Version 4.44 (4.44)
Can you share the final output instead? Want to see what you have here. Thanks.

Thanks for pointing this out! I must have missed a line somewhere during one of the latest commits. Will debug this.

There is a good reason we aren't sharing the paper in a .pdf - it is still a work in process and we are still changing some parameters, which can be vital to the economy (for example even now, there is a pull request in the repo with fixes, so the main.tex in the /cyber repo is already slightly outdated).

We don't want to mislead people. So that's the reasons why we are still having people compiling it manually. To avoid any confusion. Although, it is over 90% done I presume.

Once again, sorry for this. Will look into what's broken

PS. If you really eager, you can always use the "rich text" version in overleaf. I know its a pain in the ar... thanks for understanding  Smiley




What is the difference between using cyber and google in the browser search bar? You said the idea is amazing but is there really advantage of using cyb? Have you tested its usability?

Great question!

I guess this means we need to do a FAQ to point out the main differences / advantages.

Coming to think of it, we have done some already:

Some are described in this readme, please check it out.

Eh. I guess I can be less lazy and upload the pic. Here we go:



Also, we have described some the possibilities that arise whilst using cyber, in the WP (as stated above it is still a work in progress and need to be manually compiled... but while I'm at this. I guess I might as well copy this to here too):

This is going to be a long text. So bare with me!

We assume that the proposed algorithm does not guarantee high-quality knowledge by default. Just like a newborn it needs to acquire knowledge to develop further. The protocol itself provides just one simple tool: the ability to create a cyberlink with a certain weight between two content addresses.

Analysis of the semantic core, behavioural factors, anonymous data about the interests of agents, and other tools that determine the quality of search can be achieved via smart contracts and off-chain applications, such as: web3 browsers, decentralized social networks and content platforms. Therefore, it is the aim of the community and agents to build the initial knowledge graph and to maintain it, so that it can provide the most relevant search results.

Generally, we distinguish three types of applications for knowledge graphs:
- Consensus apps. Can be run at the discretion of the consensus computer by adding intelligent abilities
- On-chain apps. Can be run by the consensus computer in exchange for gas
- Off-chain apps. Can be implemented by using the knowledge graph as an input within an execution environment

The following imaginable list of apps can combine the above mentioned types:
Web3 browsers: In reality browser and search are inseparable. It is hard to imagine the emergence of a full-blown web3 browser which is based on web2 search. Currently, there are several efforts for developing browsers around blockchains and distributed tech. Among them are Beaker, \sout{Mist}, Brave, and Metamask. All of them suffer trying to embed web2 in web3. Our approach is a bit different. We consider web2 as the unsafe subset of web3. So we develop a web3 browser Cyb showcasing the cyber approach to answer questions better and deliver content faster.

Programmable semantics: Currently, the most popular keywords in the gigantic semantic core of Google, are keywords of apps such as Youtube, Facebook, GitHub, etc. However, the developers of those successful apps have very limited ability to explain to Google how to structure search results in a better manner. The cyber approach gives this power back to developers. Developers are now able to target specific semantics cores and index their apps as they wish.

Search actions: The proposed design enables native support for blockchain (and tangle-alike) assets related activity. It is trivial to design applications which are (1) owned by the creators, (2) appear correctly in the search results and (3) allow a transactable action, with (4) provable attribution of a conversion to a search query. e-Commerce has never been this easy for everyone.

Off-line search: IPFS makes it possible to easily retrieve a document from such an environment without a global internet connection. cyberd itself can be distributed by using IPFS. This creates the possibility for ubiquitous, off-line search!

Command tools: Command-line tools can rely on relevant and structured answers from a search engine. Practically speaking, the following CLI tool is possible to implement:

Code:
cyberd earn using 100 GB

Enjoy the following predictions:
- apt install go-filecoin:     0.001   BTC p/ month p/ GB
- apt install siad:            0.0007  BTC p/ month p/ GB
- apt install storjd:          0.0005 BTC p/ month p/ GB

According to the most desirable prediction, I decided to try `mine go-filecoin -limit 107374182400`

Git clone ...
Building go-filecoin
Starting go-filecoin
Creating a wallet using @xhipster seed
You address is ....
Placing bids ...
Waiting for incoming storage requests ...

The search from within CLI tools will inevitably create a highly competitive market of a dedicated semantic core for robots.

Autonomous robots: Blockchain technology enables the creation of devices that can manage digital assets on their own.

Quote
If a robot can store, earn, spend and invest - they can do everything you can do

What is needed is a simple, yet a powerful state reality tool with the ability to find particular elements. \code{cyberd} offers minimalistic, but continuously self-improving data source, which provides the necessary tools for programming economically rational robots. According to \linkgreen{https://github.com/first20hours/google-10000-english}{top-10,000 English words} the most popular word in the English language is the defining article \code{the} - which means a pointer to a particular item. This fact can be explained as the following: particular items are of most importance to us. Therefore, the nature of our current semantic computing is to find unique things. Hence, the understanding of unique things is essential for robots too.

Language convergence: A programmer should not care about what language will an agent be using. We don't need to know about what language the agent is performing their search in. The entire UTF-8 spectrum is at work. The semantic core is open, so competition for answering queries can become distributed across different domain-specific areas, including the semantic cores for various languages. This unified approach creates an opportunity for cyber•Bahasa. Since the dawn of the Internet, we observe a process of rapid language convergence. We use truly global words across the entire planet, independently of our nationality, language, race, name or Internet connection. The dream of a truly global language is hard to deploy because it is hard to agree on what means what. However, we have the tools to make this dream come true. It is not hard to predict that the shorter a word, the more powerful its cyber•rank will become. Global, publicly available list of symbols, words, and phrases sorted accordingly by cyber•rank with a corresponding link provided by cyberd, can become the foundation for the emergence of a genuinely global language everybody can accept. Recent scientific advances in machine translation are breathtaking but meaningless to those who wish to apply them without a Google-like scale trained model. The proposed cyber•rank offers precisely this.

Our approach to economics of a consensus computer is that agents will pay for gas as they wish to execute programs. OpenCypher-like language can be provided to query the knowledge graph, right from within smart contracts.
We can envision the following smart contracts that can be built on top of a simple relevance machine with the support of on-chain WASM VM or CUDA VM:

Self prediction: A consensus computer can continuously build a knowledge graph on its own, predicting the existence of cyberlinks and applying these predictions to its state. Hence, a consensus computer can participate in the economic consensus of the cyber protocol.

Universal oracle” A consensus computer can store the most relevant data in a key-value storage, where the key is a CID and the values are the bytes of the actual content. This can be achieved by making a decision every round, on which CID value the agents want to prune and which value they wish to apply, based on the utility measure of content addresses within the knowledge graph. To compute utility measure, validators check the availability and the size of the content for the top-ranked content addresses within the knowledge graph, then, weight on the size of the CIDs and its rank. The emergent key-value storage will be available to write for consensus computer only and not for agents, but, values could be used in programs.

Proof of location: It is possible to construct cyberlinks with 'proof-of-location' based on remarkable existing protocols such as Foam. Consequently, a location-based search can also become provable, if web3-agents will mine triangulations and attach ‘proof of location’ for every linked chain.

Proof of web3-agent: Agents are a subset of content addresses with one fundamental property: a consensus computer can prove the existence of private keys for content addresses for the subset of a knowledge graph. Even if those addresses have never transacted on their chain. Therefore, it is possible to compute much provable essence on top of that knowledge, e.g. any inflation can be distributed to addresses that have never transacted in the cyber network but have the provable link required.

Motivation for read requests: It would be great to create cybernomics not only for ‘write’ requests to consensus computers but from ‘read’ requests too. Thus, read requests can become orders of magnitude cheaper but still guaranteed. Read requests to a search engine can be provided by the second tier of nodes which earn CYB tokens within state channels. We consider implementing state channels based on HTLC and proof of verification, which unlocks the amount of tokens earned for already served requests.

Prediction markets on link relevance: We can impel this idea further by the ranking of the knowledge graph, based on a prediction market on link relevance. An app. that allows betting on link relevance can become a unique source of truth for the direction of terms, as well as, motivate agents to submit more links.

This is surely not the excessive list of all the possible applications... but a very exciting one indeed.



And yes, we have tested it of course. You are welcome to test the browser too. Please bare in mind that it is not our priority before the chain itself is fully functioning.
You can check out the current alpha of the browser here (please be aware that this is very raw and might not work in places).
Once again, the browser is not our main goal right now. We will start concentrating on it when the mainnet is launched. As the chain itself is way more important at this stage
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]CYBER:like google but cyber|Tendermint|Knowledge Consensus Supercomputer on: November 08, 2019, 01:02:09 PM


Hey there!

Sure. I think it's a great idea. I will definitely try to post constant updates

Nice signature btw. Do they still do sig campaigns?
Yes, I like that signature too. I set this signature because I am a validator.
I'm not sure that a signature company is a good idea. I like the idea of a campaign to attract new validators. Perhaps in the future it is also worth attracting people to download links and content to the IPFS.

Agree, i doubt a signature campaign these days is a good idea -)

Well, glad to see some validators here too! Hopefully we can get more people interested in the project!

Thanks for your input and help! If you have any ideas how to make this better will gladly take ideas!
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