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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 19, 2013, 05:05:08 AM
Guys I can not run
Sent you a PM.  Hopefully we can get this sorted momentarily Smiley
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 19, 2013, 05:01:01 AM
So there isn't really even a clan or guild or whatever of players backing this coin in games, like that Ixian guy who was pushing the idea of Ixians as a nation or race or whatever in Galactic Milieu using Ixcoins as their national currency?

-MarkM-


it's clone, plain and simple. it can be marketed maybe but i'd suggest a restart. this coin failed to take off. what it needs is rebranding, relaunch. and a different reward per block. my wallets combined could give me a hundred thousand, thtz why it's not even tradable for ltc.

It was a clone. It's also not tradable for LTC because I've suggested keeping it out of exchanges for the time being because until there is a strong enough network of small services on board, the coin has no value. (Something that these dozens of failed coins' developers didn't seem to understand,).  In the greater scheme of things, the fact that GME has a high reward is totally irrelevant.  It just means more supply going around, which is a stable system would ultimately just lead to proportional prices (You'll notice the Yen is significantly smaller than the US Dollar, all that means is that exchanged denominations are usually larger.)
tl;dr the value of individual coins is not as relevant as the value of the total circulation of the coin, and that value is currently not at a satisfactory level for listing on an exchange to be a wise option.

Also, it sounds to me like that Ixian guy wasn't successful, given the past tense.  So it sounds like that may not be a viable strategy Wink

I really am sorry that this coin isn't what you think it should be.  But hey, the source is on github Wink
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 18, 2013, 07:00:53 PM
Is there a graph somewhere showing how many of these coins were mined in the first minute, hour, day, week, month etc?

Also, I don't seem to find any details about the actual game?

If there is no actual game that these coins are part of, what is the point? People who create games will have plenty of reasons not to use this coin, especially if the graph ends up showing it started at zero difficulty or some crazy crap like that like all the recent scamcoins.

Actually several groups of players within games have created coins for use in-game before, the problem they all ran into was blockchains are insanely expensive. You end up giving more than 100% of your money to miners! 100% of all the coins mined, then also transaction fees on top of that, what the heck that is insane. It is like saying to the U.S. that if they want you to act as a money transmitter for their currency they have to give you every dollar they print plus transaction fees!

Nothing I have seen so far indicates this coin is any different from any of the other recent scamcoins, and since there seems to be no link to the game there isn't really much indication that the game this currency is part of is even worth playing...

-MarkM-


Thanks for the input, I can tell by your post count that you've been here quite a while, so I appreciate you taking the time to do a little reading and give us your two cents.

You might need to read a little closer, GameCoin wasn't launched for a specific game (Actually, it seems it was totally launched by the original dev as an obvious scamcoin, they did't bother swapping out logos or even changing the ticker from FTC!)
However, thee are a couple games with links near the bottom of the main post which accept and distribute GME.

The main reason I took over the GME project once I saw it had been abandoned is more of a curious interest than anything else.  I'd toyed with the idea of a coin that could be marketed an in-game rewards/commodity, but more an an incentive program that a standard and official currency.  It would be encouraged that game studios develop thier games with GameCoin support as an extra: distributing GME as in-game rewards (to bring players in that might want to collect GME) and/or accepting GME in exchange for in-game bonuses.

This coin won't be particularly profitable in the short term, so the biggest challenge is coming up with incentives and profit opportunities to keep the miners here, because it seems a lot of people are looking for relative small short-term gains rather than to be part of something larger.  More than anything I was looking to build/work with something neat, and add another open-source project I can cite contributions to.

tl;dr At the moment this coin can be sen as very similar to the scamcoins, provided you look at it from the perspective of someone hoping for a short-term gain.  We've got piles of ideas and plans, but until they are put into action and show results, they are exactly that.  Those who will benefit from GME will do so a little further down the line, and they'll be the few who see the potential of said plans.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of all cryptocoins on: June 16, 2013, 05:27:38 AM

1 - It's reviving dead on arrival coin with no blockchain to save.
2 - starting new coin od old dead blockchain = HUGE premine.


Can you clarify?  These two statements seem entirely contradictory.  How can there be a huge premine if there is no blockchain to save?

We adopted development of this coin not very long after the original "developer" (The one who didn't even bother/know how to swap out a few graphics and string constants) had departed.  Nearly all active members of this fork were active members of the original coin.
Perhaps we should modify our threat to remove the "unofficial" status to avoid confusion. (given that the original developer didn't do any actual developing)

All major hashpower and GME service providers and consistent users are on the same blockchain.  There is no fighting from what I've seen.


If you could at the very least correct Gamecoin's ticker to GME I'd be much obliged.  We'll get out of the dead category on our own steam Wink
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 15, 2013, 07:18:08 PM
 I'm open to suggestions on some sort of incentive or relief for miners because you guys are carrying this coin right now.



I am open for a trade for currency that is currently trading, i.e. BQC or another alt coin. I have 100K of GME for the right price I can trade to another currency. (9,000 BQC OBO?)

-PoolMinor

-Edited for less ambiguity

It's sort of neat seeing stuff like this going on so smoothly.
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 15, 2013, 07:17:38 PM
It's great to see you have intentions to take this coin forward jayo. I hope you'll succeed. If you need any help, let us know!
I myself do not have the money or the skills to lift this coin up Lips sealed

Oh I'm a small piece of the big puzzle.  All the active posters here have put a lot of faith and effort into getting this bird back in the air, I'm just a delegator that tries to keep everyone on the same page.
I'm as broke as broke can be, so I just contribute what time I can here and there.  The big round of applause goes to pretty much everyone else.

lol know the feeling... I am out of work due to injury LOL

Guh, that's never fun.  I've been there.
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 13, 2013, 07:37:46 PM
It's great to see you have intentions to take this coin forward jayo. I hope you'll succeed. If you need any help, let us know!
I myself do not have the money or the skills to lift this coin up Lips sealed

Oh I'm a small piece of the big puzzle.  All the active posters here have put a lot of faith and effort into getting this bird back in the air, I'm just a delegator that tries to keep everyone on the same page.
I'm as broke as broke can be, so I just contribute what time I can here and there.  The big round of applause goes to pretty much everyone else.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 13, 2013, 07:35:46 PM


That's called an unstable hashrate. All small coins have them, not all of them are using a difficulty algorithm as speedy as this.  We've improved the situation to better weather the storm, but no solution is invincible.

This isn't a mining-based coin.  So trying to promote it in it's own right and its immediate value to miners is pointless because it has none.  It's sort of a catch-22 because we need to keep the hashpower providers interested long enough to generate interest for the coin's actual purpose, which will give the coin value, which will produce mining interest.  Right now our real problem is that mining interest is produced by low difficulties (something that by nature is fleeting).  So we need stable interest to obtain stable hashpower.


Things could be worse Bytecoin has only 1800 more blocks till the difficulty change, or 2 years  Grin.

I also think if we want more interest we could have xorxor update their post on "the list" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134179.0

Alas this may bring more skeptical hash hounds that might not have the same opinion as to where this coin belongs.

I need to personally go where the money is to pay the power bill, at least 8 hours out of the day, leaving me limited hours to support this coin. I only have about 3% of the total GME in existence, sure I want more but I may have already dug myself into a hole trying to justify daily support.

I need value soon, I am not trying to dump when it sees an exchange just trying to see some of my work paid off.

-PoolMinor

Yeah, it's understood miners want to see their value.  The only issue is that GameCoin might not be a short-term investment coin.  It may only pay off (if at all) for the few that devote time and resources into it to actually build it into something outside the alt-coin pump-and-dump standard.  I totally understand your frustration though, it sucks putting a bunch of work, effort, and resources that could have been spent elsewhere on something and then waiting for results.  I'm open to suggestions on some sort of incentive or relief for miners because you guys are carrying this coin right now.

I do think we need at the very least GameCoin to be updated on the list, because it's obvious that it hasn't been updated since initial release, and the GameCoin team, community, and mission (or lack thereof) was entirely different.  Personally i feel the thread is not giving this small little sub-community the credit it is due for the monumental (and somewhat uncommon) feat of reviving a 51%'ed coin that didn't have much to offer on the front.

The original GameCoin just may have been the laziest release this place has seen.  But since things changed around here, you guys might be the hardest-working folks here
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 13, 2013, 06:15:46 AM
0.21 is not that hard for someone with a few GPU's to throw at it. Unfortunately the core GameCoin supporters tend to have less hash power to throw at it. I'll stick my hashes onto it to get us to the next diff adjust and jump off it again when the difficulty goes down.



I am glad to hear that you will be around everyday to save us from this horrible issue we have every few days.

Thanks

That's called an unstable hashrate. All small coins have them, not all of them are using a difficulty algorithm as speedy as this.  We've improved the situation to better weather the storm, but no solution is invincible.

This isn't a mining-based coin.  So trying to promote it in it's own right and its immediate value to miners is pointless because it has none.  It's sort of a catch-22 because we need to keep the hashpower providers interested long enough to generate interest for the coin's actual purpose, which will give the coin value, which will produce mining interest.  Right now our real problem is that mining interest is produced by low difficulties (something that by nature is fleeting).  So we need stable interest to obtain stable hashpower.
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Need something fun to do with all those alt-coins? | http://alt-co.in on: June 13, 2013, 06:08:04 AM
I got - 0.02 Yacoin  of balance after withdrawing Grin



Yeah, just a little leak I've been meaning to fix.  In the case of a full withdrawal, our system absorbs the tx fee (all coin daemons have thier tx fees left at the default to ensure consistent transaction speeds, and we charge no additional fee for deposit, withdrawal.)

Just remember we get the 0.02YAC back next time you deposit Wink (If you ever do, totally your call)
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 12, 2013, 07:18:38 AM
Would it be that absurd to simply change the name of this coin?

Something along the lines of GameTokens? No idea why the entire community continued the "coin" craze when it comes to naming schemes.

We could do a small brainstorm get a few names, then hold a poll to vote on one of them.

My theory is that "Coin" has stuck partly because of laziness, partly to try and snag some brand recognition from BitCoin, and partially because when you think "Coin" you think money, something that has real value.  Th eonly reason I'd want to shy away from "token" is that by definition a token meant to be valueless stand-in for money.

To be blunt, "Coin" is sexy.

Though I'd be totally down to just start calling this coin GP, as a nod to classic RPGs or something like that.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 12, 2013, 06:26:49 AM
I have stated this before and I am not sure if I was heard but here it is again.


http://www.gamecoins.com/


Will this site have a negative impact on this coin since it has been established well before this coin was introduced?

Not likely.  The copyright says 2011 and the whole thing seems like an obvious and not-so-successful moneygrab.  We can still hold brand integrity over it since it was never well-known
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 12, 2013, 05:47:13 AM
Can i sell my gamecoins for giftcards now? Like walmart or whatever to buy games with. That would be cool, getting a few gamecoins here.. would be interested in $0.10 valuation.

Well, the problem is right now a large majority of the coins are held by a relative few.  That makes demand pretty low.  The only way we can establish and hold a 0.10 valuation would be to try and throttle mainstream offloading of coins by big holders (ie "cashing out"), as this decreases demand and lowers value further, as it shows weak support for the coin.

Trying to offload almost exclusively to game developers/service providers, however actually increases demand for the coin because it shows bigger outside interests wanting in.

So I guess the short answer to your question is no, I haven't seen anyone willing to sell things with serious cash value at that valuation any time soon.  But that's not the direction we're aiming for.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: List of all cryptocoins on: June 12, 2013, 05:10:04 AM
GameCoin's ticker is now GME, the coin has been adopted by active and competent developers, and the 51% has been all but defeated with some changes to the difficulty algorithm.

The coin is now more agile and can easily survive even brutal hashrate drops with only minimal delay to transactions (fixing a problem plaguing most alts), as well as quickly adapting to a large hashrate spike to prevent abuse by bigger miners.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 12, 2013, 04:52:35 AM
Would it be out of the question to impose a value of 1000 GME equals $1 at the box office for say a sporting event? For instance I could set up a ticket box office with a standing buy order of $10 for 10,000 GME for people that want to purchase tickets to the local NBA or MLS events. Of course applying this value to the coin would deplete my actual $$ in a matter of hours. I think there needs to be a local value set before we can achieve a global value.

I was actually cnsidering writing guidelines to some similar effect, imposing guidelines to keep the coin level and stable.

(possbily) Bad news for miners, these would include pretty tight daily deposit allowances in games to allow for fairer play (Nobody will want to play a game when a select few have nearly unlimited funds, and gave developers won't want to accept a currency that would allow that kind of discord in thier games).

If all of these guidelines are met, a game/app/platform will be designated as "GameCoin Approved", and may be featured/promoted by GameCoin, may possibly qualify for a small stipend to get the ball rolling (if the game offers GME as in-game rewards, which will also follow guidelines for approval)

Of Course, GameCoin will always be open-source, so people that don't care about approval don't need to bother, they just miss out on the benefits/trust that comes with it.  It would still be suggested that all developers follow the guidelines regardless to ensure a stable value for the coin, which really benefits us all in the end.

Also, I was thinking of a price more in the range of $0.10/GME.  People forget that GameCoins can be broken down into a lot of very tiny units.  It would probably be suggested that the standard in-game "unit" for rewards be around 0.0001 GME or less (a single "unit" would be equivalent to one basic unit of in-game currency in value (Coins, Gold, GP, etc)).  Remember Approved games would enforce deposit limits to prevent the games from being abused by early adopters of the coin (which actually hurts the coin's value and all of our wallets).

If we went through this we would likely politely ask that exchanges not adopt GameCoin at this time (to prevent mass abuse of the GameCoin System before the target price is solidified, devaluing the coin).  A proper exchange would be launched where miners could list thier coins for cash purchase by game developers/content producers, at prices a little more towards the target price.  But, as I said before, GameCoin is open source and all of these things would be suggestions, and ultimately the masses have control.
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 11, 2013, 08:10:33 PM



I think an exchange is an easy way out and a march to a slow death.  This isn't a quick cash out, pump-and-dump going.  This coin's backed by an actual idea and a plan now.
Getting listed on an exchange would get interest faster, bas as all other alts it would fizzle and poof.  The real trick to building interest is to get small casual games accepting GameCoin, GME giveaways and incentives that are game-oriented, maybe auctioning off some Steam codes for GME.  Give it some Game-based value rather than market-maniuplating, pump-and-dump, flavour of the week garbage.

Don't worry guys, I'm not just spewing hot air, I've got some pretty cool things on the Horizon to make it super easy for developers to accept GameCoin payments, and I'm n talks with a couple local devs.

This may be outside of the box thinking, but does this coin have to be promoted to one particular use of the word "game?" Perhaps someone could allow this coin to be marketed for Big Game (fishing, hunting, etc.). I do not have an interest in these things but perhaps someone here does.  Smiley

I don't think it's out of the box thinking at all.  It's just looking at everything from an elementary level.  Most coins were created on the basis of making money, so thier primary interest would be an exchange.  This coin was revived because the name could lead to come cool applications, so the real value (and where the coin will obtain the best price) is by making it available to the masses, and having places that actually accept it as some form of money (in-game or otherwise).  This is a coin, it's purpose is to be used as a medium of exchange for goods and services, not just as a raw commodity.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 11, 2013, 04:31:22 PM
Poolminor your messages keep disappearing..



This is because I decide later that my comments are unwarranted and cause undesired outcomes.  Embarrassed

Thanks for noticing though.  Cheesy

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So this coin is not dead. But maybe it would not be a bad idea to list it on cryptsy? There aren't many people with a lot of these coins I think, so if we agree not to dump everything, maybe some new users will start mining gamecoin?

I agree, this coin needs more interest now that the new changes have been implemented. To the exchange...

I think an exchange is an easy way out and a march to a slow death.  This isn't a quick cash out, pump-and-dump going.  This coin's backed by an actual idea and a plan now.
Getting listed on an exchange would get interest faster, bas as all other alts it would fizzle and poof.  The real trick to building interest is to get small casual games accepting GameCoin, GME giveaways and incentives that are game-oriented, maybe auctioning off some Steam codes for GME.  Give it some Game-based value rather than market-maniuplating, pump-and-dump, flavour of the week garbage.

Don't worry guys, I'm not just spewing hot air, I've got some pretty cool things on the Horizon to make it super easy for developers to accept GameCoin payments, and I'm n talks with a couple local devs.
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] GME | GameCoin - Unofficial fork and Windows QT Client. on: June 10, 2013, 12:31:45 AM
I personally wasn't able to solo mine. Solved several blocks after the 25200 *think I was the one who solved that magical block* I only got multiple rejected blocks.
I've stopped solo mining for the time being to see what happens as Im getting nothing but rejects and that isn't going to help anyone.

I think most of my wallet connections were to people running the old client.
Would it be possible to add into the code that the client would NOT connect peer to peer with the incorrect version?

Try clearing your peers list file.  The checkpoints should prevent the bad peers from being re-added, but if they were added to the peers list pre-upgrade, they might not be blocked.
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Need something fun to do with all those alt-coins? | http://alt-co.in on: June 08, 2013, 04:23:08 AM
Sent in 50 YAC, after registering and now its gone. can I get some help with this?

Thanks,
I'll send you a PM so I can get a little more info from you and track down the coins.

Still hasn't posted to my account...

Credited 50 YAC + 25 YAC for making you wait (Sorry about that, day job and all Wink )
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Need something fun to do with all those alt-coins? | http://alt-co.in on: June 06, 2013, 04:38:46 PM
Sent in 50 YAC, after registering and now its gone. can I get some help with this?

Thanks,
I'll send you a PM so I can get a little more info from you and track down the coins.
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