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61  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do older people like investing in Gold/Silver? on: August 16, 2018, 12:06:46 AM
It's just another way to invest. Having a diverse portfolio is a good idea, especially if you're looking ahead and seeing less and less time to earn and more and more time you need to budget somehow. It's like bank stock. It'll vary, but it's more likely to remain stable in times of crisis.
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: At what price point people will stop mining? on: August 16, 2018, 12:02:02 AM
Why to mine ethereum endless? Use nicehash and get profit in bitcoins, hold it. If you think that you'll continue to mine ethereum with hope of future rise, some people can't think to do following: visit to whattomine.com and choose most profitable coin. Mine this, then exchange them to ethereum and hold.
People will stop mining when it can't even cover electricity fees and they turn into negative. Also consider that some may still mine while they have money for miners to run, there are a lot of factors. Even if mining will turn into absolutely negative balance, there will be some people who will mine still just for no reason or etc.

It depends. If you have the capital up front, shutting off your miner when it starts not covering electricity and just buying the amount of electrical costs in the coin is the most profitable way. If you don't have it up front and FIRMLY believe the coin will bounce back, leaving your miner on does make sense, as long as you can pay the electric bill eventually (think of it like how credit functions).

Also if you have use for the heat, I use an S5 in my bedroom when the weather shifts. Even though it hasn't been profitable since January, it heats the room and earns back a decent amount of what it costs to run. I have electric heating in my house, so technically in winter it's profitable for me to run unprofitable mining gear as I'd be spending that money on electricity anyway.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 15, 2018, 11:43:33 PM
The APW3++ is supposed to be rated for 1200w on 110v. You can't run 3 minis on 1 APW without 6 pin splitters which I believe you're not supposed to do. However I am going to try to run 5 of them on 2 of these PSUs
The mini draws like 350W overclocked. You can likely run three of them on one APW3++ (though it's rated for only 1000W @110, I've never had a problem going over with any of mine--not suggesting others do it, just saying).

The APW3++ is rated for 1200W on 110v. You can't run 3 minis on a single APW unless you use 6 pin splitters which I believe you're not supposed to do. However I am going to try running 5 of them on 2 of these PSUs

Never use pin splitters. If you switch to 220, you can add more cables if you want, but splitting limits you to the max output of each cable, not the overall psu. And yeah, you're right, I forgot there are only 10 cables. You'd have to add more.

It depends which/when you bought. Bitmain's current APW listing says 1000 @ 110. All of mine were rated 1200W, I was just being conservative in the examples.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 15, 2018, 11:41:27 PM

The mini draws like 350W overclocked. You can likely run three of them on one APW3++ (though it's rated for only 1000W @110, I've never had a problem going over with any of mine--not suggesting others do it, just saying).

More like 420 watts at 750 MHz using a single Bitmain APW3+++ per Mini.  

Mine peaks hashrate-wise at 718MHz, and draws around 350-360 according to my kill-o-watt. Are you on 110-130v or 220-250?

Even at 420, you can safely run two on one APW3++ (as long as you have enough room on the line). 3 is a risk, but two should still come in under the max (unless you're on 220, in which case you could really run 4 if you add more cables).

EDIT--to run three you also would have to add two cables, my bad.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 15, 2018, 08:25:40 PM

For sale? Probably. For use? It's the same hashrate/power consumption per chip, the mini will continue to be profitable at the same ratio as the bigger guys, just less on a day to day level.

Also Z9 mini is realistically the only ASIC miner for mining at home without any special investment in electrical installation (even if you a have a few of them). The noise level is border line tolerable and it is using not much more power than GTX1080Ti (with the price of second batch with coupon, comparable as well)

Not at all, pretty much all Bitmain miners are usable at home without any electrical mods (provided your house doesn't have pre-60s wiring still); any 20amp circuit will easily suffice, and most of them run fine on a 15amp line. That said, ALL miners are more efficient on a 220v line, and the A3 and S9 both require their own dedicated lines (I assume the Z9 biggie does as well)...

Make sure to use a psu that will function on a 110v line at the wattage you need.

The A3, T9, and the S9 are the only Bitmain miners I know of that this is a concern for. I don't have an S9 or T9, but for the A3 the bitmain standard PSU worked fine on 110 in tests, but I didn't want to risk it and powered one of the cards with an old PSU pulled from a dead tower.

Yea the power draw on the mini's should be more than plenty with the 1800w antminer psu on 110v, double check though. I have mine with a simple 800w corsair on 15a 110v circuit.

The mini draws like 350W overclocked. You can likely run three of them on one APW3++ (though it's rated for only 1000W @110, I've never had a problem going over with any of mine--not suggesting others do it, just saying).
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 15, 2018, 07:50:29 PM

For sale? Probably. For use? It's the same hashrate/power consumption per chip, the mini will continue to be profitable at the same ratio as the bigger guys, just less on a day to day level.

Also Z9 mini is realistically the only ASIC miner for mining at home without any special investment in electrical installation (even if you a have a few of them). The noise level is border line tolerable and it is using not much more power than GTX1080Ti (with the price of second batch with coupon, comparable as well)

Not at all, pretty much all Bitmain miners are usable at home without any electrical mods (provided your house doesn't have pre-60s wiring still); any 20amp circuit will easily suffice, and most of them run fine on a 15amp line. That said, ALL miners are more efficient on a 220v line, and the A3 and S9 both require their own dedicated lines (I assume the Z9 biggie does as well)...

Make sure to use a psu that will function on a 110v line at the wattage you need.

The A3, T9, and the S9 are the only Bitmain miners I know of that this is a concern for. I don't have an S9 or T9, but for the A3 the bitmain standard PSU worked fine on 110 in tests, but I didn't want to risk it and powered one of the cards with an old PSU pulled from a dead tower.
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 15, 2018, 07:47:38 PM
Has anyone tried to put second fan for extraction?

I have one taped on, using metal tape and covering the additional vent holes. It's for ducting purposes. Once I finish my cabinet, though, I will likely remove it as I think it ran a couple degrees cooler with the open front.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 15, 2018, 07:45:14 PM

For sale? Probably. For use? It's the same hashrate/power consumption per chip, the mini will continue to be profitable at the same ratio as the bigger guys, just less on a day to day level.

Also Z9 mini is realistically the only ASIC miner for mining at home without any special investment in electrical installation (even if you a have a few of them). The noise level is border line tolerable and it is using not much more power than GTX1080Ti (with the price of second batch with coupon, comparable as well)

Not at all, pretty much all Bitmain miners are usable at home without any electrical mods (provided your house doesn't have pre-60s wiring still); any 20amp circuit will easily suffice, and most of them run fine on a 15amp line. That said, ALL miners are more efficient on a 220v line, and the A3 and S9 both require their own dedicated lines (I assume the Z9 biggie does as well)...

Make sure to use a psu that will function on a 110v line at the wattage you need.

You misunderstood me or I should have said that these Z9 mini miners are in addition to the existing GPU mining rigs (2.5kW). Do not forget that a house has lots of appliances and some of them also take up to 1.8 KW in peak. Temperatures this Summer are high and I had to add a portable AC (in addition to central air). I could not add a S9 without adding 220V installation.

A 20amp 110v line provides 220W. by the 80% rule, that means a constant draw of 1.76kW is perfectly acceptable, you just need it to be a dedicated line. (this is an example; most of the single phase lines in my house tend towards 120v, so their ceiling is higher).

I'm not saying 220-250v isn't preferable, it is, for numerous reasons (more efficient as well), just saying I ran all my miners, including my A3, on 110v lines until I set up my subpanel. You just have to make sure you're not putting high draw gear on busy circuits and not hitting the max for the house as a whole. But again, if you're going to add lines anyway, you might as well put in 220v ones.
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Galaxy A Revolutionary Mineable Ethereum Based Cryptocurrency on: August 15, 2018, 11:18:41 AM
This thread is like an Amazon product listing--around 15% actual people.
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: At what price point people will stop mining? on: August 15, 2018, 11:13:38 AM
Just look at Siacoin. Difficulty is not dropping despite losing $2-3/day net. I think plenty of people (myself included) would be more than willing to mine at a loss gambling that the price will go back up... Remember, it's not a loss until you sell.

SIA is on ASICs now, so it's not example.
https://obelisk.tech/

Also SIA has infinite volume (there is no coin cap), so it is completely based on potential usability, not scarcity.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: August 15, 2018, 10:31:46 AM
plus side? right now an e3 makes barely $1 a day , At least with gpus u can sell if this bear market holds
right now ppl are stuck with them, praying for this downturn to end

That's the market, not the network. Actual earned ETH per day hasn't dropped very much because the network was already huge and the E3 is no more efficient than midline gpus. ETH has dropped significantly; if you're not cashing out daily, it makes little difference unless the market doesn't recover.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GTX 1060 discussion thread on: August 14, 2018, 11:33:06 AM
what mining guys? i already shutted down all my rigs!!! the... end!

sell those cards before new ones come out! lol

Meh, 1050s still turn a slight profit. I say add on, not replace.
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Still HODL? on: August 13, 2018, 11:29:44 PM
I am hodling now more than ever, the market simply keeps dropping, i know that more trading could give it a boost but still I don't feel cabable of selling at the moment and loosing my investment.
Yeah,  isn't the moment to sell them off if still losing big, may it recover soon and take them off to be sure you've got something in returns. Ain't that all people have same aspect in life that's why some of us couldn't manage to hold just because they are needing their money right now.

Unless you're shorting...
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Still HODL? on: August 13, 2018, 11:28:54 PM
If you haven't sold, you've lost prospective value, not money. You have only lost money when you sell at a lower price than you bought.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GTX 1060 discussion thread on: August 13, 2018, 11:19:24 PM
Anyone tried underclock the core voltage to 0.6-0.7 volt? i cant figure out how to lower the core voltage % in afterburner. Some forums says it can cut down electricity by 20-30 percent and same hashrate with standard oc 150\500.

you need to use nvidiainspector for that and something like below in a bat file to apply profiles to each GPU.

Code:
nvidiaInspector.exe -lockVoltagePoint:0,650000 -setBaseClockOffset:0,0,100 -setMemoryClockOffset:0,0,400 -setPowerTarget:0,75 -setTempTarget:0,0,85

Or use an OS like EthOS that has those settings as part of the main settings.
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: August 13, 2018, 11:17:27 PM
Update: Second hashboard on the E3 has shit the bed.

Super disappointed in the quality of this shipment. When I received it, the E3 had one DOA board, plus the metal around the control board was loose and rattling. Now a second board has failed? Come on.

Bitmain is pulling the "Send it in for warranty" card.

Sorry for your bad luck but not sure what you expect Bitmain to do about it.  EVGA has not offered anything different for my failed graphics cards.  I send them in and wait for replacements.

I have been running 9 E3 units with A3++ power supplies since the first batch shipped.  All solid and no failures so far.  They are a nice addition to my graphics card rigs at less than half the cost.

Considering that Bitmain offers a warranty and the unit already contained failed hardware on receipt, it's DOA to me. I'd expect it to be replaced.

I would expect that as well.  Isn't that why they told you to send it in under warranty?  Or are you expecting red carpet service with them picking it up and replacing it?  

On the plus side, the ethash network was already so crowded that you're only losing mining time, not opportunity like with the new release of any other miner...
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 13, 2018, 11:15:17 PM

For sale? Probably. For use? It's the same hashrate/power consumption per chip, the mini will continue to be profitable at the same ratio as the bigger guys, just less on a day to day level.

Also Z9 mini is realistically the only ASIC miner for mining at home without any special investment in electrical installation (even if you a have a few of them). The noise level is border line tolerable and it is using not much more power than GTX1080Ti (with the price of second batch with coupon, comparable as well)

Not at all, pretty much all Bitmain miners are usable at home without any electrical mods (provided your house doesn't have pre-60s wiring still); any 20amp circuit will easily suffice, and most of them run fine on a 15amp line. That said, ALL miners are more efficient on a 220v line, and the A3 and S9 both require their own dedicated lines (I assume the Z9 biggie does as well)...
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: August 13, 2018, 09:05:12 PM
Hi cryptomaniacs,


Since two days ago Z9 Mini is -Sold Out- so...

What's the next step of Bitmain?

Release a new batch of 'Z9 Mini' cheapest than 850$?

New batch with the same price?

Not sale 'Z9 mini' again?

Will be interesting to know what they did before with similar ASIC machines...

Thanks for your time !!

my guess is that this will be the end of the Z9 mini and only the Z9 will remain with the remainder inventory plus price adjustments for next batches.

For sale? Probably. For use? It's the same hashrate/power consumption per chip, the mini will continue to be profitable at the same ratio as the bigger guys, just less on a day to day level.
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GTX 1060 discussion thread on: August 13, 2018, 04:29:00 AM
Looks like 1060 3GB soon will either be landing in trash or taking chances in spec mining.

Don't underestimate it. It is still good for mining other algos and.. gaming!

What is to not be underestimated, I don't underestimate it only for gaming and it doesn't quite excel there too. As for the mining if you use it with Windows 10 and Nicehash you will be making 0.05 mBTC per card daily or 0.00005 BTC daily. You are consuming more electricity than are making any money with it. Trash is the only place where this card will go and it will be soon I guess.

My 1060 cards have paid themselves off a long time ago.  Currently they are making double what I am spending in electricity and even if they make enough to just pay for the electricity I will continue to let them run.  If I mine some shit coins I sell them and buy something I believe in but..  I don't cash out my crypto besides a little every once in a while but mainly I am holding most of it long.  So even if I am breaking even right now, if it doubles or triples later in time then win...

/\ This. I wish 2/3 of my ASICs still earned double the electricity.
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Launches the New Antminer B3 Miner on: August 10, 2018, 06:56:18 PM
Anyone buying a machine meant to only mine a single coin with no history of profitability cannot blame bitmain for their own stupid decision.

Also, the GPU code was written after the miner was released, so you are trying to blame bitmain for not predicting the future.

Quit whining and blaming everyone else for your bad purchase. Nobody forced you to buy it.

I'm not complaining about the risk or the nature of the coin, I'm complaining about the faulty hardware and the extreme loss of mining time as a result of it.
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