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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: May 26, 2018, 10:52:42 AM
XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....

The max supply has nothing to do with that. That was wrong 10 sides before, it is the same 10 sides later...

Bitcoin: Supply: ~17,100,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 6 * 24 * 12.5 = 1,800

Percent of supply right now: 1,800 / 17,100,000 * 100 = 0,0105%


Verge: Supply: ~15,000,000,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 120 * 24 * 730 = 2,102,400

Percent of supply right now: 2,102,400 / 15,000,000,000 * 100 = 0.0140%


So Bitcoin as well as Verge has a daily increase of coins, of less then 0.02%.

This has nothing to do with the higher max supply. The number of bitcoins mined each day is much less, because of the lower max supply...

Than just wait like the other guy that it doubles in price due halving  Grin

And Bitcoin is just that, Bitcoin. Everybody that compares whatever Altcoin with Bitcoin is should get back to reality. Not even talking about comparing XVG with BTC, lol. Total joke.

I didnt say, price will double because of the halving. It will not, as i already mentioned some pages before. Meanwhile there is a new mining balance and you earn about the same amount of verge like before the halving, as hashrate has spreaded new.

I just tried to explain you, that this has nothing to do with the higher max supply of Verge...

I am trying this for some weeks now, but it seems you are resistent to understand it...

And i did not compare bitcoin and verge in a relevant way. You can take bitcoin above and replace it with any other crypto...

You could take bitcoins today, increase max supply from 21,000,000 to 21,000,000,000. What would happen? Each Bitcoin-holder would have 1000 times more bitcoins in his wallet and the price would be divided by 1000 and the amount of mined Bitcoins per block would increase to 12,500. Thats it. Calculated in any fiat, nothing would happen.

By the way, Bitcoin is a fantastic thing, no question. But from technical point, Bitcoin is one of the worst Cryptocurrencies out there. There are tons of better Cryptos, XVG included, but no question, there are much better Cryptos then verge, because of better DEV teams. But in long term i am convinced that all Cryptocurrencies, that keep PoW wont have a chance to survive. As good as the idea behind bitcoin is, if the needed power consumption for mining will increase at the same rate like it does the last years bitcoin will need the same amount of power as the whole world need without bitcoin in about 5 years... Not to mention, that no PoW-currency is really decentralized as there is one country that produces about 95% of the miners, China. These are the reasons, why i think, that Ethereum will be number one at latest by the end of 2019, because they begin to switch from PoW to PoS slowly with the new Casper Protocol. In mid term, each cryptocurrency that misses this neccesary step, will die in my opinion, Bitcoin included, if they miss that. The only reason why Bitcoin is still there where it is right now, is the first mover advantage, but this advantage will decrease day by day.
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LINDA-PoW/PoS-99% APR- MASTERNODE-MULTI-WALLET ( NEW THREAD) on: May 26, 2018, 09:17:51 AM
[...]
The major change from LindaV1 to LindaV2 is the transition from an alt-coin to a consistent transfer and payment ecosystem.
Lightning-fast transfer AND counter. fiat/token counter <-Linda-> fiat/token counter

If the increase in price comes before the increase of the value, it's speculation.
If the increase of price comes after the increase of the value, it is not speculation.

The value already exists. The price corresponds at least to this value. It's an organic price. It's not speculation.
Therefore, buying to this price has a sense, even if the next step does not increase it.

I find that 16-21 satoshis/Linda is a fair price coming from the cost of mining: The cost of newly produced coins.
In fiat currency, it would correspond to the metal of a coin, before giving a face value.

Nobody must buy, but everybody can buy.

In case of lottery, you have zero in your pocket when you paid the ticket.
Buying Linda, you have coins with high risk to win and low risk to lose.

I think you mean here "high chance to win and low risk to lose"...
People understand perfectly: So did you.

1cent = 125 Lindas @8000$/BTC -> Depends on $/BTC.  It's a fact. Follows the price of $/BTC
Previous highest price = 90 = 0.9 cent
125 [Lindas/cent]  / 16 [sat/Linda] = 8  @8000$/BTC. It's a fact, based on present value. Follows the price of $/BTC
0.9cent->1cent : It is fast obvious until end 2018. This is a reasonable estimation.
----------- END OF SHORT TERM ------------


I have no idea...
I dont know.
I agree. You don't know.


LONG TERM:
You can call "ridiculous" a simple basic multiplication.
2x 2x = 4x in 2 years: Built in the algorithm. 4x is basic. It's facts.
Until now: 4x 8x = 32x.

Direct change $ <-> Linda

Given the functionalities, the LindaX ecosystem will work with 1Linda = 1dime  mid 2020 : Estimation of basic value.
This is 10x
Until now: 4x 8x 10 = 320x.
----------- END OF LONG TERM ( LOW FIGURE ) ------------

Now the above calculated factor 8 (again, no idea where it comes from)
Try with a compass.

pure speculation, ...  -> pure speculation
Oh something is pure ?
Read above: I wrote bigger, just for you.


And, as LINDA is right now about 0.001 $/LINDA, the right factor if it would rise to a dime (0.10$) would be 100.
Good simple math calculation Cheesy
Makes sense: about * would be = about.

LONG TERM - HIGH FIGURE
The fees are a comfortable passive revenue.
Like for shares, the price of Linda will be compared to it's revenue
My opinion is 1$/LINDA, at least, already at the end of the coin's production.
1$=10dimes
This is 10x
4x 8x 10 x10 = 3200x.
----------- END OF LONG TERM ( HIGH FIGURE ) ------------

CROSSCHECK:
Compare with evolution of BTC
The figure are of the same order of magnitude.

Therefore: Linda gives the chance for teens of today to buy for the price of BTC 9 years ago and get the same kind of profit.
The author thinks that LINDA will be worth 1$ mid 2020 -> even more pure speculation
etc etc etc

Author's note: Read above.
I am sorry if you are unable to understand the concepts and if you cannot read the word "estimation"

It seems that you have difficulty understanding that
- the 1st is the number of Lindas corresponding to a cent. It is a natural number. [cent/ linda] * [linda/cent] Perhaps too natural for you ?
- the second one is the present price of a Linda in satoshis, ie cent. Would you be surprised to learn that if you buy a cent, the result is a cent ? The relationship is a natural number [linda/cent] * [cent/ linda] . Of course.



I dont want to fight with you and i dont want to answer to your insults, after showing everyone, that your „calculation“ is totally wrong. I am sure, you are a supporter of Linda. People saw that your calculation is completely wrong and only based on speculation (you call it estimation, what in the end is the same here). And i can only try to ask you again to stop spreading such nonsense (even when the calculation would not have been totally wrong), because it does not help at all. Please consider, i am a supporter of Linda too. You do NOT help Linda with such ridiculous price predictions, even when you think you do...

There is only one thing i would ask for. If you quote me, dont delete the essential parts of my message (e.g. Linda²/(cent * sat) ), thank you for respecting that in the future...
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: May 26, 2018, 09:10:31 AM
XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....

The max supply has nothing to do with that. That was wrong 10 sides before, it is the same 10 sides later...

Bitcoin: Supply: ~17,100,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 6 * 24 * 12.5 = 1,800

Percent of supply right now: 1,800 / 17,100,000 * 100 = 0,0105%


Verge: Supply: ~15,000,000,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 120 * 24 * 730 = 2,102,400

Percent of supply right now: 2,102,400 / 15,000,000,000 * 100 = 0.0140%


So Bitcoin as well as Verge has a daily increase of coins, of less then 0.02%.

This has nothing to do with the higher max supply. The number of bitcoins mined each day is much less, because of the lower max supply...
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LINDA-PoW/PoS-99% APR- MASTERNODE-MULTI-WALLET ( NEW THREAD) on: May 25, 2018, 06:28:33 PM
OMG, i just saw that...

WTF is that...

Lets take a look at that:

The major change from LindaV1 to LindaV2 is the transition from an alt-coin to a consistent transfer and payment ecosystem.
Lightning-fast transfer AND counter. fiat/token counter <-Linda-> fiat/token counter

If the increase in price comes before the increase of the value, it's speculation.
If the increase of price comes after the increase of the value, it is not speculation.

The value already exists. The price corresponds at least to this value. It's an organic price. It's not speculation.
Therefore, buying to this price has a sense, even if the next step does not increase it.

I find that 16-21 satoshis/Linda is a fair price coming from the cost of mining: The cost of newly produced coins.
In fiat currency, it would correspond to the metal of a coin, before giving a face value.

Nobody must buy, but everybody can buy.

In case of lottery, you have zero in your pocket when you paid the ticket.
Buying Linda, you have coins with high risk to win and low risk to lose.


I think you mean here "high chance to win and low risk to lose"...

But anyway, now lets take a look at the "simple math"


1cent = 125 Lindas @8000$/BTC -> Depends on $/BTC.  It's a fact. Follows the price of $/BTC
Previous highest price = 90 = 0.9 cent
125 [Lindas/cent]  / 16 [sat/Linda] = 8  @8000$/BTC. It's a fact, based on present value. Follows the price of $/BTC

0.9cent->1cent : It is fast obvious until end 2018. This is a reasonable estimation.


----------- END OF SHORT TERM ------------


125 [Lindas/cent]  / 16 [sat/Linda] = 8 Linda²/(cent * sat)

So what should this number tell us now? I have no idea...

Maybe the author meant, that the ATH of LINDA was 91 sat... But thats not 8 times more then the price right now (0.00000016 - 0.00000017 BTC/LINDA = 16-17 SAT/LINDA) I dont know.


LONG TERM:
You can call "ridiculous" a simple basic multiplication.
2x 2x = 4x in 2 years: Built in the algorithm. 4x is basic. It's facts.
Until now: 4x 8x = 32x.

Direct change $ <-> Linda

Given the functionalities, the LindaX ecosystem will work with 1Linda = 1dime  mid 2020 : Estimation of basic value.
This is 10x
Until now: 4x 8x 10 = 320x.


----------- END OF LONG TERM ( LOW FIGURE ) ------------


Now the above calculated factor 8 (again, no idea where it comes from) is multiplicated with the only true factor 4, as you can earn 4 times of the Linda coin you have now when having a masternode running for 2 years. Therefore you need to invest about 2500$ at the moment i am writing this.

This is then multiplicated with 10, because of pure speculation, that linda will increase to 1 dime until mid 2020 -> pure speculation

And, as LINDA is right now about 0.001 $/LINDA, the right factor if it would rise to a dime (0.10$) would be 100.


LONG TERM - HIGH FIGURE
The fees are a comfortable passive revenue.
Like for shares, the price of Linda will be compared to it's revenue
My opinion is 1$/LINDA, at least, already at the end of the coin's production.
1$=10dimes
This is 10x
4x 8x 10 x10 = 3200x.


----------- END OF LONG TERM ( HIGH FIGURE ) ------------


CROSSCHECK:
Compare with evolution of BTC
The figure are of the same order of magnitude.

Therefore: Linda gives the chance for teens of today to buy for the price of BTC 9 years ago and get the same kind of profit.


The author thinks that LINDA will be worth 1$ mid 2020 -> even more pure speculation

The correct factor would be 1000, considering the price of LINDA right now (about 0.001 $/LINDA).

So please... I am invested in LINDA, i believe in the LINDA-Project.

But for all people that come here. This calculation is pure speculation and it is extremely likely, that this calculation will not come true. And it is just wrong! As much as i would love to see that come true, this is nothing else then speculation. It can be that LINDA is worth 0 in two years. It can be that LINDA is worth 1$ in two years. Noone knows that. Same thing for Bitcoin or any other cryptocurreny. Cryptocurrencies are high speculative investments. Consider that at any time.

If you are intersted in investing in LINDA, do your own research, maybe come to their discord and talk to the people there. After that, make your decesion, if you beleive in the project and want to invest, or not.

Dont invest just because of this (sorry for have to say that) completely wrong "simple math calculation"...

Please, let me say that again. I like this project. I would love to see you invest in LINDA. And i would love to see the project being a great success. I believe in the project and i think it will be successfull, but this is only my own opinion, nothing else... Noone can guarantee anything... Anyone who tells you anything else, is nothing but lying...

Any comparison to bitcoin does not work anyway. Bitcoin is a great idea, no question. But Bitcoin has an advantage no other coin will ever have, that is the first mover advantage. If you check the cryptomarket from a technical point, there are tons of projects, that are much better then Bitcoin for several reasons (btw, i think LINDA is one of those). But anyway, none of these projects will have the first mover advantage...

In my opinion, the worst thing that can happen to a cryptocurrency is, that someone invests in a project because of wrong predictions and promises and gets disappointed. You can be sure, this person will lose the faith in that project, leave it, and never come back.

These are the reasons, why i try to stop people from making ridiculous price predictions and promises. I am sure, the author of the above „calculation“ is convinced from the linda project too. But it does not help the linda project at all, making ridiculous and wrong predictions... So again, if you want to support the project, stop spreading this nonsense...
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LINDA-PoW/PoS-99% APR- MASTERNODE-MULTI-WALLET ( NEW THREAD) on: May 25, 2018, 01:34:41 PM
It looks like this coin is dead... At least there is no community behind the coin...

Edit: This was definitely wrong. Very nice and active community at their discord!
Excellent.

You discovered Linda.[/b][/color]

You will maybe see the reasons to speak of features, thus value.


I did see that and thats why i corrected my post. Anyway, i adhere to my opinion, that it is not useful to make any announcements of announcements or any price predictions, as there is not even one possibility to make that in a serious way, and it does not help at all. You dont know the price of LINDA tomorrow, or next year, or what ever. You dont even know the price in 5 minutes... The only way to find out the price in 5 minutes is... to wait 5 minutes  Grin
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: May 25, 2018, 05:38:57 AM
Every time Verge moves forward an inch, it seems there is a targeted attack planned to introduce fear and uncertainty. That is our curse - how can we un-curse Verge? This is not random for sure!


Verge community needs to accept that despite the pumps the wider crypto community has very little respect for XVG, and that means many attackers would love to pin the verge scalp on their hacking belt. The coin can continue for a while longer pulling in newbies with less tech understanding, but verge will never be respected by crypto insiders, and it's those insiders who will continue targeting verge for more attacks. Just accept it, get stronger, or exit while you can.

If the crypto community would be so bad, i would not like to be a part of it. I dont think that the attackers should be seen as a part of it. They damage the whole crypto community, not only verge. Because they dont want to be part of a community. They only want to fill their bags...
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: May 24, 2018, 09:49:33 PM


have to admit... -SNIP-


You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself!

Especially because HE is advertising for a real shitcoin...

What differentiates a real shitcoin from a fake shitcoin? Huh

XVG is a 650 Million Dollar Coin right now, with the low markets. They have an active community and they are establishing everyday use cases nearly day by day. Of course they made faults. But i cant hear this shitcoin shit anymore from any children, just because they lost 100$. This is crypto. If you cant take that go somewhere else. And i cant hear those spammers with there REAL shitcoins that they just made to scam people...

Lets see the coin you developed... Is it better? Is it worth 650 Million Dollar?

No. It's a shitcoin. It launched as dogecoindark and emitted like 80% of all coins as a generic scrypt clone with a retarded name in like three months while it had practically no hashrate (i.e., the coin creator, not gonna give him respect of developer title, instamined the fuck out of it). Then it rebranded to the name of a well known magazine and stole that magazine's logo. Then it forked to adopt five concurrent pow algorithms a la myriadcoin and digibyte, however the coin creator didn't implement the time warp fix that those coins have had since like 2014, resulting in allowing someone to "hack" the blockchain twice now. But it does have hot sauce and porn tho...

And i think the from you so called creator pumped 650 Million Dollar in the coin to give it its today value?

And what did they do to make one of the biggest industries in the world to choose XVG as partner? And please, dont tell me the shit about porncoin or something like that. If you guys still dont understand this deal and its consequences, not only for verge, but for crypto, noone can help you anymore.

Why is Myriadcoin a coin that is completely insignificant... Is it because they made everything right?

There tons of garbage in top 20 or 50, because it's easier to control price when one or few entities control large proportion of float, and there's lots of more quality stuff farther down for opposite reason. Only two that really matter at this point are bitcorn and morono, imo.

I agree, that there is a lot of garbage. I do not agree that XVG belong to that.

There is even some garbage in the top 5 (BCH for example).

Definitely, XVG made faults. And this faults would have been avoidable. But this does not mean, that this is a shitcoin. And they must have done some things right, otherwise they would not be where they are right now.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: May 24, 2018, 09:19:18 PM


have to admit... -SNIP-


You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself!

Especially because HE is advertising for a real shitcoin...

What differentiates a real shitcoin from a fake shitcoin? Huh

XVG is a 650 Million Dollar Coin right now, with the low markets. They have an active community and they are establishing everyday use cases nearly day by day. Of course they made faults. But i cant hear this shitcoin shit anymore from any children, just because they lost 100$. This is crypto. If you cant take that go somewhere else. And i cant hear those spammers with there REAL shitcoins that they just made to scam people...

Lets see the coin you developed... Is it better? Is it worth 650 Million Dollar?

No. It's a shitcoin. It launched as dogecoindark and emitted like 80% of all coins as a generic scrypt clone with a retarded name in like three months while it had practically no hashrate (i.e., the coin creator, not gonna give him respect of developer title, instamined the fuck out of it). Then it rebranded to the name of a well known magazine and stole that magazine's logo. Then it forked to adopt five concurrent pow algorithms a la myriadcoin and digibyte, however the coin creator didn't implement the time warp fix that those coins have had since like 2014, resulting in allowing someone to "hack" the blockchain twice now. But it does have hot sauce and porn tho...

And i think the from you so called creator pumped 650 Million Dollar in the coin to give it its today value?

And what did they do to make one of the biggest industries in the world to choose XVG as partner? And please, dont tell me the shit about porncoin or something like that. If you guys still dont understand this deal and its consequences, not only for verge, but for crypto, noone can help you anymore.

Why is Myriadcoin a coin that is completely insignificant... Is it because they made everything right?
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: May 24, 2018, 08:52:18 PM


have to admit... -SNIP-


You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself!

Especially because HE is advertising for a real shitcoin...

What differentiates a real shitcoin from a fake shitcoin? Huh

XVG is a 650 Million Dollar Coin right now, with the low markets. They have an active community and they are establishing everyday use cases nearly day by day. Of course they made faults. But i cant hear this shitcoin shit anymore from any children, just because they lost 100$. This is crypto. If you cant take that go somewhere else. And i cant hear those spammers with there REAL shitcoins that they just made to scam people...

Lets see the coin you developed... Is it better? Is it worth 650 Million Dollar?
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: May 24, 2018, 07:37:07 PM


have to admit... -SNIP-


You are the lowest form of life, posting an ad for some other crap coin in this forum. You should be ashamed of yourself!

Especially because HE is advertising for a real shitcoin...
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LINDA-PoW/PoS-99% APR- MASTERNODE-MULTI-WALLET ( NEW THREAD) on: May 24, 2018, 11:30:17 AM
You are right on one point: Let Linda grow organically.



Then stop your price predictions, or your 4x - 80x multiplier forecasts. You dont know that, i dont know that, noone knows that.

It is just nonsense and speculation...

It might become reality, it might not... noone can tell us right now...

But writing that investors of 10$ today will have 3200$ in 2020 is just ridiculous.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔ DigiSync v6.16.2 - DigiSpeed - Segwit -DiguSign on: May 24, 2018, 11:18:55 AM
is there a reasonable price of digibyte expected during this year? With reasonable i mean based on facts and true news instead of gut feeling?

Sure, 10,000,000,000,000.00 $ per Digibyte in three days...
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LINDA-PoW/PoS-99% APR- MASTERNODE-MULTI-WALLET ( NEW THREAD) on: May 23, 2018, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: aleksdon link=topic=2126041.msg37965003#msg3796 5003 date=1526848217
do you think the coin has a future and reasons for this?
Yes, Linda has a future.

Now, Linda is the bulk of an ecosystem based on services used in the real world.
This ecosystem will be fully mature in 2 years and bring good revenues from fees.
Before that, it brings 96% /year for Masternodes and 67 % for Staking.

Nobody knows exactly when, but one thing is sure:
Lindacoin has an increase in value, not only a price change.

The continuous increase of useful features will make Linda more attractive. It's price will increase without any need to pump it.

The huge passive revenues coming from the use of the Linda ecosystem will bring real commercial value to this coin.

Just now, the price is quite low because the demand is satisfied by newly created coins.
It is a very temporary situation: The increase in features will is bringing an increase in value. The automatic consequence of increase of the value is an increase of the price.

A big new is presently undisclosed because of a non-disclosure agreement of en existing contract with a very big customer.



Be prepared before mid-june. The value will jump at that moment.


The wall is ridiculously low compared with the increase in value.
The increase in demand should explode the wall placed around 1 cent.

The potential of short term profit is about 6-8x
For long term profit, it is 4x (Share a MN, passive revenue) * >80x( Low figure; price around 1 dime (1/10$) ) + huge fees (after maturity)

Today: You spend 10$ and get around 8000 Lindas
2020: You have > 3'200$ (low figure) AND fees


Linda gives the chance for teens of today to buy for the price of BTC 9 years ago and get the same kind of profit.
Not bad, is it ?

The Linda will probably cost at least 1$ in mid-2020
The investor of 10$ will own the indecent amount of 32'000$
1 hamburger today -> 1 car tomorrow.

If you are a rich man, you can buy 1 MasterNode.
It is presently quite attractive: 3'400$/MN


Please do not make any "announcements of announcements". This will help nobody. We saw that for Verge. Big news was hyped before and became bad news, as they did not fulfill the (ridicoulous) expectations of a lot of people, although it was really big news.
I see nothing constructive in your comment.
It is obvious that you didn't read.

Verge is not Linda and the question is not about "announcement of announcement".

I am describing FACTS.
It will be a confirmation of the schedule. The Linda community already knows about the great content.

Many people in here don't know it yet and it is important to tell them that they can make money in 3 weeks from now.
They have the right to know.
New investors can still come onboard with an extremely small risk.
Do you really think that 10$ is a high amount ?

Just compare with lottery and gamble.
When you play lottery or gamble, your 10$ are lost and you will eventually recover something.

Buying Lindas, you buy a part of a growing ecosystem.
You keep your 10$ and: Each year, you receive between 6.7$ and 9.6$. At the end of the year, you have 16.7$ -> 19.6$

Linda gives a chance to small investors: They have 3 weeks to decide to buy or not.
Of course, the price will rise between now and mid-June.

Linda is a currency with masternodes: It is an unique possibility to own a masternode.
The price is about 3'400$.

I encourage to read all this post and to go to discord. It's very active there.

This forum does not allow to give a direct link to the Linda lounge on Discord.
You will find this link here: https://twitter.com/Lindaproject
or there: https://lindacoin.com/


Now, you know. You go or not to Discord. You join the very strong Linda community or you stay outside.
Everybody is free.


I own Linda and i own 5 Masternodes. Anyway, nearly everything you wrote is wrong. If you invest 10$ in Linda now, you have no idea if these 10$ are 10$ next year too. It can be 5$, or it can be 1000$ or it can be 0$. Noone knows that.

The point is, if there are good news coming, then let them come. We will see what will happen after that. What you are doing is nothing else then a try for pump the coin.

And as i already mentioned, it does not help anyone. Let LINDA grow organically. The whole LINDA-Community will thank you for that sooner or later.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Baikal Giant X10 on: May 22, 2018, 06:22:37 PM
About CE Certificate:

I got a reply from baikal, they told me they do have now CE-Labels and Certificate. I asked them to send me one but they refuse, I already have some X10‘s which they can confirm.
They only send it out with the tracking number.

I don’t know why? Anybody can confirm getting these and can upload one example (hide your details if there are some).
I don’t know if they just say it to force customers to buy it or if there is a serialnumber thing about this? I really don’t know.

Please tell me what you think about this. CE Certificates/Labels are pretty necessary to get it into EU.
Maybe you are lucky and it got through but what about next products.
For me I want to know, otherwise it could be costly play in the future.

Thx

I agree with MiCoSa, I don't think they have a CE certification.
Maybe they have CE label, but it's "China Export" instead, similar to European CE label, but nothing to do with that.


Well i probably think the same way, but how do reseller get them. I had contact with people selling 30 or more units in Germany.
That’s strange and does not make sense, this was end last year / early this year.

If you are lucky and customs dont look exactly, you will get them. If you are not -> No Money and no Miners
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★DigiByte|极特币★★[DGB]✔ DigiSync v6.16.2 - DigiSpeed - Segwit -DiguSign on: May 22, 2018, 12:07:48 AM
Nice to read report about digibyte. And i think it hits the nail on the head...

https://globalcoinreport.com/digibytes-dgb-potential-for-the-future-why-this-crypto-deserves-a-chance/
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: May 21, 2018, 08:16:03 PM

It's truly amazing how people spew "facts" about things they have no real knowledge of. Are you all in the "porn" industry? If not, how about talking about something you are an expert on. I envision a rather quiet forum after that catches on...

Oké, first of all. Mindgeek already announced that they will pay there uploaders and performers with XVG. Also Verge was proud, that those bastards will use there coin (The uploaders of all kind of movies, which can\t see tje daylight)

Crypto-currencies are is a paymentmethode and Tpay is fraud, like Bitconnect version 2. They sold under the table 6000 - 8000 Tpay's for 1 BTC and other investors paid 3000 Tpay for 1 BTC.

The guy who didn't get paid for his work by Derec the ceo of Tpay, is communicating about that with Derec and both agreed that they sold Tpay under the table..... but the guy, who started a topic also here on Bitcointalk, forgot.. that it is fraud to sell your ICO under the table for a much lower price, so I wouldn't trust Tpay or there ceo's.

Tpay want to use the Vergefam for there own benifits, that's for sure, but ... that's not the case.

Verge isn't new technology or new on the market. Mindgeek could have chosen an other anynomous coin, but there Dev's didn't want to be connected openly to the porn-industry. Mindgeek is free to use XVG for there payments without promises from Verge....

Verge is an open currency which can be used by everyone, so that would be the same, as someone is saying, I am the creator of BTC and I make a deal with BMW, that people can only buy BMW's with BTC and I will receivce an promille of the cars sold in BTC.

It's truly amazing how people spew "facts" about things they have no real knowledge of. Are you all in the "porn" industry? If not, how about talking about something you are an expert on. I envision a rather quiet forum after that catches on...

Oké, first of all. Mindgeek already announced that they will pay there uploaders and performers with XVG. Also Verge was proud, that those bastards will use there coin (The uploaders of all kind of movies, which can\t see tje daylight)

Crypto-currencies are is a paymentmethode and Tpay is fraud, like Bitconnect version 2. They sold under the table 6000 - 8000 Tpay's for 1 BTC and other investors paid 3000 Tpay for 1 BTC.

The guy who didn't get paid for his work by Derec the ceo of Tpay, is communicating about that with Derec and both agreed that they sold Tpay under the table..... but the guy, who started a topic also here on Bitcointalk, forgot.. that it is fraud to sell your ICO under the table for a much lower price, so I wouldn't trust Tpay or there ceo's.

Tpay want to use the Vergefam for there own benifits, that's for sure, but ... that's not the case.

Verge isn't new technology or new on the market. Mindgeek could have chosen an other anynomous coin, but there Dev's didn't want to be connected openly to the porn-industry. Mindgeek is free to use XVG for there payments without promises from Verge....

Verge is an open currency which can be used by everyone, so that would be the same, as someone is saying, I am the creator of BTC and I make a deal with BMW, that people can only buy BMW's with BTC and I will receivce an promille of the cars sold in BTC.

Justin and the other Dev's are receiving also a promille % of the turnover received by Mindgeek in XVG's....... how is that possible?

Simple, 1 xvg Whale, is pretending that he made a big deal with a game-company in China. That they will use XVG on there mobile game-app's. He made that deal with them, which is free and he will receive ..... % of the XVG's they earn on there mobile game's.

So Justin and Tpay made a simular deal with Mindgeek, but didn't had the money to back it up..... and ask the community for support. But they will receive the % provision on this deal and not the community.

They promised the community, that the coin would go 100x. but instead the coin is going down, due the fact that people know, what kind of filthy world the porn-business is.

So xvg isn't new technology but only a filthy coin for the sex-industry and the Dev's receives a percentage % of the turnover in XVG's.

This story will not end here, I know some journalists worldwide and I
Justin and the other Dev's are receiving also a promille % of the turnover received by Mindgeek in XVG's....... how is that possible?

Simple, 1 xvg Whale, is pretending that he made a big deal with a game-company in China. That they will use XVG on there mobile game-app's. He made that deal with them, which is free and he will receive ..... % of the XVG's they earn on there mobile game's.

So Justin and Tpay made a simular deal with Mindgeek, but didn't had the money to back it up..... and ask the community for support. But they will receive the % provision on this deal and not the community.

They promised the community, that the coin would go 100x. but instead the coin is going down, due the fact that people know, what kind of filthy world the porn-business is.

So xvg isn't new technology but only a filthy coin for the sex-industry and the Dev's receives a percentage % of the turnover in XVG's.

This story will not end here, I know some journalists worldwide and I

I would say contact yout journalists... LOL  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Do you recognize, that you make a fool of yourself with all your conspiracy theories. I dont know if the devs get a provision (like you do not know too...),or if anyone made a deal with a gaming platform and gets some provision for that. But if it is like that, where is the problem? Every day there are made contracts in the world where provisions are paid...

It seems like you dont know, but about 80% of the XVG gathered from the community came from TokenPay...

For me, it seems you invested at the highest peek and now you are upset, because the price went down. It seems you are a little child, that now spreads FUD about the coin because you lost some money? Am i right? There are people like you everyday in every thread here. You want an advice from me. Sell your cryptos and give your Fiat to the bank for .25% interest per year. Thats the better way for people like you.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LINDA-PoW/PoS-99% APR- MASTERNODE-MULTI-WALLET ( NEW THREAD) on: May 21, 2018, 04:06:05 PM
Quote from: aleksdon link=topic=2126041.msg37965003#msg3796 5003 date=1526848217
do you think the coin has a future and reasons for this?
Yes, it has a future.
5 months ago, it was a shitcoin

Now, it is the bulk of an ecosystem based on services used in the real world.
This ecosystem will be fully mature in 2 years and bring good revenues from fees.
Before that, it brings 96% /year for Masternodes and 67 % for Staking.

Nobody knows exactly when, but one thing is sure:
Lindacoin has an increase in value, not only a price change.

The continuous increase of useful features will make Linda more attractive. It's price will increase without any need to pump it.

The huge passive revenues coming from the use of the Linda ecosystem will bring real commercial value to this coin.

Just now, the price is quite low because the demand is satisfied by newly created coins.
It is a very temporary situation: The increase in features will is bringing an increase in value. The automatic consequence of increase of the value is an increase of the price.

A big new is presently undisclosed because of a non-disclosure agreement of en existing contract with a very big customer.



Be prepared before mid-june. The value will jump at that moment.


The wall is ridiculously low compared with the increase in value.
The increase in demand should explode the wall placed around 1 cent.

The potential of short term profit is about 6-8x
For long term profit, it is 4x (Share a MN, passive revenue) * >80x( Low figure; price around 1 dime (1/10$) ) + huge fees (after maturity)

Today: You spend 10$ and get around 8000 Lindas
2020: You have > 3'200$ (low figure) AND fees


Linda gives the chance for teens of today to buy for the price of BTC 9 years ago and get the same kind of profit.
Not bad, is it ?

The Linda will probably cost at least 1$ in mid-2020
The investor of 10$ will own the indecent amount of 32'000$
1 hamburger today -> 1 car tomorrow.

If you are a rich man, you can buy 1 MasterNode.
It is presently quite attractive: 3'400$/MN




Please do not make any "announcements of announcements". This will help nobody. We saw that for Verge. Big news was hyped before and became bad news, as they did not fulfill the (ridicoulous) expectations of a lot of people, although it was really big news.
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: May 21, 2018, 12:46:59 PM
Just to add to that, so you know for example... every single last major shooting in the united states recently, were by people that LEGALLY bought guns with USD that caused the deaths of many...  so this thing with xvg and porn, is nothing...

Yeah.. such people who talking about crypto from the bad side(drugs and bla bla) don't really imagine the whole world picture/problem with USD as a dirty money..Adult industry and xvg partnership its a normal thing.

Oké guys, I totally understand everything you wrote, really everything!!

Just as with money, you can buy and do everything with cryptocurrency. Money is still ruling the world.

So we have oil-dollars and more shit, course everything can be bought with money. But there is one big difference if we look at the crypto-world.

Each coin is backed up, by an idea or purpose for the coin and a community behind it.

The Verge community was based as a anonymous payment solution, just as BTC was, so to controll your own life instead of being controlled by goverments or banks, like money-slaves.

But the basic of the purpose of xvg is change by there creators. They made themself a deal with the porn-industry. They asked the community to back them up, with money.... but couldn't tell what the deal was!!

Which is strange, course most of the communities are open and straight to each other. Especialy when the deal needed a big donation and the promise, that there coin would be x100 at least.

So the coin was 0,03 cents and would be in the future $ 3,= , course the said BIG DEAL millions of visitors each day...... not buyers or that those visitors had to pay something.

So if they said..... we can make a big deal with a porn-holding who has 90% of all the porn-traffic site's on the web.... not many people would give an donation, just course porn is free, why pay for porn?

Porn is free, why pay for Porn?

You only pay for porn if you have special wishes and there are not many people with special wishes, so that's why the xvg didn't rais in value.

Second thing is.... the dirty bastards who already where getting paid, for there uploads, like filming there mother under the shower, let there little sister wank there dig or fucking there dement grandma etcetera.

Will do this more, course xvg is an safe and anonymous paymentsolution and they can't get catch that easy as with real money and banks.

In Nepal, you still can buy a baby for $ 50,= and promise his parents that you will take care of her or he. Most of the time, they make snuff-movies with them or use them for other stuff where they can earn money on.

But now, they can earn xvg's with there stuff, course these childeren get's older and will be seen as a landlord fucking his maid of 10 years old. On pornhub you see a lot of stuff whereby you can't tell, but see, that some girls and boys are under age.

these guys will get paid by xvg's. And they get paid by Mindgeek, course at this moment they are already getting paid for this kind of movies by Mindgeek and you can watch them on pornhub and much more if you will be a premium member.

I can buy guns and pay for it, with all kind of currencies..... but these guys are only getting paid with XVG's course the Dev's of Verge made an exclusive deal with Mindgeek!!!

That's the different amigo's, it would be the same as Charlie Lee of LTC made an exclusive deal with the NRA (which will make him the richest man alive) for buying and paying for guns and all the other stuff in that circular economy of the weapon industry.

And XVG will be the exclusive crypto payment methode in the circular economy of the porn industry.

I wouldn't give a donation for the NRA deal and also not for the Mindgeek deal, but i did so I am a little bit pissed off, that i did  Cry

What does the deal has to do with that. If it would be right what you are telling (i dont think it is), they could be paid in Bitcoin, Litecoin, Euro or USD as well. The things you are telling has nothing to do with the partnership between XVG and Mindgeek...
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Baikal Giant X10 on: May 21, 2018, 12:39:55 PM
About CE Certificate:

I got a reply from baikal, they told me they do have now CE-Labels and Certificate. I asked them to send me one but they refuse, I already have some X10‘s which they can confirm.
They only send it out with the tracking number.

I don’t know why? Anybody can confirm getting these and can upload one example (hide your details if there are some).
I don’t know if they just say it to force customers to buy it or if there is a serialnumber thing about this? I really don’t know.

Please tell me what you think about this. CE Certificates/Labels are pretty necessary to get it into EU.
Maybe you are lucky and it got through but what about next products.
For me I want to know, otherwise it could be costly play in the future.

Thx

They tell that everyone. I am sure they do not have. If they really have, they dont know how it works. There has to be a CE-Label on each device and there has to be a "Declaration of Conformity" with each device. They have neither the one nor the other. As mentioned, i am quite sure they do not have CE-Certificate. They tell you they have and they would help you if there are any problems with customs. Believe me, they do not. I learned that the hard way. As soon as they have your money, they dont care anymore...

There would be no reason to keep the "Declaration of Conformity" as a secret. The only reason for that, i can imagine, is that they dont have it. The fact that they did not send it to me even after i had trouble at customs is, at least for me, the proof they dont have it.
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] LINDA-PoW/PoS-99% APR- MASTERNODE-MULTI-WALLET ( NEW THREAD) on: May 20, 2018, 09:47:21 AM
I have similar question. Im running masternode for a week and half. I receive first 13K LINDA after 3rd day, 7K 5th and today is the 6th day from last payout there is nothing. I can see my IP on masternode list.

Is there some tricks how and what to look to know that everything is running and ok.
Getinfo and debug gave me info full of text that I dont know what they mean.  Huh

Anyone suggesting something?  

I have 100/50 Mbps net speed and pretty much good hardware.  



It looks like this coin is dead... At least there is no community behind the coin...

Edit: This was definitely wrong. Very nice and active community at their discord!
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