I think I have addressed the issues . Thank you for your time . Will this add it to coinmap ? |
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I don't know about testing all time highs but it'd be nice to see it above 900.
If I'am honest ,as someone who makes profit buying and selling the actual price does not matter to much to me . My task is to track were the big players are buying and selling and try to be in the same place . The higher price goes the less room their is for small players like me . But I would like to see it at least test the highs . I do not believe we will break into newer highs without some serious good news though . |
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1400 volume in one 15 minute candle .
That is extremely bullish .
A move higher from here could see us testing the all time highs
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1000BTC recently appeared at $820 limit sell, not seen a wall this big for a while.
Wonder who could put so many coins up for what looks like a single seller ?
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I wanted to test it out on my building before putting the idea to my friends who own various businesses but since I cannot tag my building it is a non starter .
You CAN tag your building, but you have to tag it correctly. Could you give us a link to your node/way in OSM, please? Thank you! I have never used Open street maps before so let me see if this link takes us back to my page . http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit : it does but with no marker just shows "10" were my building is . When I actually tagged my building there was an overhead google map style picture of the roof of my house . But this map has no buildings showing at all . Any help would be appreciated . My friends are interested but I told them they would be able to have there buildings on the bitcoin map ,but so far it is not looking like I can show them how . When you go through that link you need to press "edit" and then you see my house from above and a tag icon on my roof . |
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Welcome to new difficulty 1.78 bilion, the next change is for about 10 days + 25-35 %   View Screen CaptureThe constant from all this is a Block reward every 10 minutes of currently 25 BTC. This is the first, honest, self regulating invention ever . |
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I followed the instructionals that were supplied at osm but it has not worked and I do not understand why .
My guess would be that your business is not a brick-and-mortar business so it didn't go through moderation queue. It was pretty much explained in the email you got ... I'am self employed builder ,my home is my business address . Maybe my street's houses are not on there map so it will not work . Maybe it only caters to actual shops and public building ,maybe the guy from osm can shed more light and will show me what is possible . It would have been cool but nevermind . In any case, you can add your home address to OSM. Addresses and buildings are wanted very much, but then please be careful to use the correct tags for the address (as suggested in the message, like addr:city and addr:street). However, if you also tag your home as your business (with name=, shop= or payment:bitcoin=yes), then it means in OSM terms that people can expect to go there and find a shop or at least office, where they can physically pay at the exact location with Bitcoin. That's what they mean by "OSM is a map". It makes only sense for a business to be on a map if it really is and can be found by strangers interested in it on the place where it is tagged. For your case, I don't know whether you actually have an office related to your business at home, where you also expect customers that show up. If that's the case, then maybe an office= tag is appropriate. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office for more details. I wanted to test it out on my building before putting the idea to my friends who own various businesses but since I cannot tag my building it is a non starter . |
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I followed the instructionals that were supplied at osm but it has not worked and I do not understand why .
My guess would be that your business is not a brick-and-mortar business so it didn't go through moderation queue. It was pretty much explained in the email you got ... I'am self employed builder ,my home is my business address . Maybe my street's houses are not on there map so it will not work . Maybe it only caters to actual shops and public building ,maybe the guy from osm can shed more light and will show me what is possible . It would have been cool but nevermind . |
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I think it was described in a pretty much detailed way what is wrong and that your business does not belong to a map ... I thought I was putting it on a map ? I followed the instructionals that were supplied at osm but it has not worked and I do not understand why . |
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What could I be doing wrong for it not to update ?
Providing Node ID makes finding an issue much easier ... I got this e-mail. Hi overunity, chillly has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject your first edits: == I see you have added a (your?) business to OSM. I thought you might like some feedback. I expect you have added your business from Coinmap. What Coinmap and the like don't understand is that OSM is geographical database that happens to be used to create a map amongst other things. Your edit has no object. There's no business type, nor building nor any other object to hang your edit on, so there's nothing to display. Judging by your note you don't execute your business there, you will do that at customers' premises, so it doesn't make sense to add your business in that form to OSM. We are NOT a trade directory. You have put a house number and street name in the housename tag, stick to addr:housenumber and addr:street which look good. The postcode should be upper case. You have added the business name as an advert. When you have added the object for the business (if you can - I don't see what you would use as customers do not go there to receive the service) please add the correct business name, not the strapline from your business card. It would be great if you added some detail to OSM, your area. If you need any help, please reply. Chris == So it is not as simple as put payment:bitcoin=yes . any suggestions ,I run a groundworks company from my home address . I followed the instructions and clicked on my house then added the details . Any info that might help please ask . |
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Just added my services to openstreetmap ,but nothing showing on coinmap .
I will check again in a few hours maybe I didi it wrong .
Be great to see me on coinmap .
Once I know for sure I can do it ,I will go round my business owner mates and add them ,once I get em set up with wallets .
I put this coinmap to new businesses I convert .
In the tags I put The " payment:bitcoin=yes " but still nothing on coinmap . What could I be doing wrong for it not to update ? |
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Just added my services to openstreetmap ,but nothing showing on coinmap .
I will check again in a few hours maybe I didi it wrong .
Be great to see me on coinmap .
Once I know for sure I can do it ,I will go round my business owner mates and add them ,once I get em set up with wallets .
I put this coinmap to new businesses I convert .
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I understand what you mean about a contract but I cannot see anyone on e-bay signing a contract when there are others willing to send bitcoin as soon as the payment is made .
Maybe if we put in the description your contract terms and that by bidding on the item you accept blockchain's information as proof of delivery then even if paypal chargeback the money we could have a case in the small claims court .
But getting paypal and e-bay to accept blockchain as official proof would save a lot of uncertainty .
Oh I agree... I guess I'm just being pedantic. So much "all paypal for BTC is scam!!!" threads get to me a bit. I don't do much this way at all, and it seems silly, with PayPal's 2.9%, but some people are just hellbent on using PayPal. Market need, I address it, by creating bulletproof contracts. Of course it'd be more ideal I'd they recognized BTC in the first place.  I agree ,I wanted to sell on e-bay simply because it has already done all the marketing is popular and has no minimum sell limit . But without them officially accepting some form of proof I may as well just give bitcoin away fre lol. The only way to get people to enter into a contract I can see ,is if I set up a webste ,I was hoping to make small amounts of bitcoin reasonably affordable and accessible for new entrants into this coin. |
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I have today spoken to e-bay about protection for bitcoin sellers .
The representative outlined their concerns with digital items including ,games ,antivirus software .
They can offer protection for physical goods because they know how to track postage and that the buyers actually received the goods bought .
But any virtual,digital goods are impossible to track so they blanket do not protect these transactions .
You can put up adverts and sell but if you have a dispute or your advert reported it is likely to end in your adverts being taken down and a warning of some sort issued .
I explained that unlike other digital items the protocol behind bitcoin is an official record of every transaction of every bitcoin transfered from one address to another and that they could turn paypal and ebay into an acceptable place to sell bitcoin simply by understanding and accepting blockchain.info as an official record of bitcoin transactions .
I explained that if they implemented a policy that officially recognised blockchain info as a receipt and proof of transaction they could protect buyer and seller .
paypal protects buyer .
Blockchain protect seller .
I also explained that the other option was to sell on localbitcoins.com but they need you to have a margin of one bitcoin to trade there which currently stands at around $900 /600pounds which is to much for small players .E-bay which has currently no minimum would therefore be preferable with a minor tweek in policy .
I would like the help of the community to turn paypal and ebay into bitcoin friendly environments .
The more people that phone ebay /paypal asking for blockchain info to be recognised as an official form of ledger to prove the seller transfered the coin to the address supplied by the buyer ,the more likely they are to implement this policy .
All we need is people to pick up the phone and request blockchain info be official proof of transaction .
I do not think their is a big conspiracy against bitcoin they currently do not know how to track transactions ,please let them know .
Thank you peeps .
You know, that's actually really sensible, logical, and a smart way of implementing bitcoin into eBay and Paypal. I seriously doubt they view bitcoins and crypto-currency as profit-stealing or whatever you nutjobs claim. They just want to ensure protection for buyers, which is sensible. So by making bitcoin a more secure form of currency and providing enough evidence and proof to them that it can be used sensibly, they might just re-format their policies Thank you I'am glad someone else can see my point ,the only thing they focused on in our conversation is the fact that they cannot offer protection since there is no way with normal digital items to prove you got it . So in most cases the dispute ends up favouring the buyer since the money is the only traceable item, I do feel with enough people contacting them something could come of this . It really is up to the community as a couple people contacting them will not be enough pressure . I can only talk to them so many times but without help I think it will be a waste of time in the immediate future. |
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I purchased paper wallets that were advertised to have 1 BTC each, but they had 0 each. The person reviewing the case apparently ignored the blockchain information showing absolute proof that the wallets had 0 balance. Don't expect the eBay dispute reviewer to use the blockchain info, or even basic logic when deciding on the case. I am not using eBay & DEFINITELY not PayPal for BTC transactions.
This backs up what I was told . They do not understand that the blockchain exists let alone know how to use it ,if we can educate them ,maybe there is some hope ,the more that contact them with this info the more chance there is . Unless like lots believe there is a conspiracy against Bitcoin . I find people fear what they do not understand ,ebay are no different . If they understand that their paypal could incorporate bitcoin wallets into their format then maybe we could make progress. Yeah, FYI this is not what I was advocating. Guess my business model is secure after all, since I spelled it out and it's still a mystery. Your model is secure ,but understand that paypal and e-bay will side with the buyer regardless, since they have not officially said any were that blockchain information will 100% prove you sent bitcoin anywere . The only place you could stand a chance is in court ,but you need very deep pockets to do this trust me .So in the end right or wrong ,people with average income lose always in the legal framework . Well, my pockets aren't empty, so that helps my confidence. That said, again: the contract doesn't rely on anyone reading blockchain to determine proof of Bitcoin delivery. The blockchain merely is the proof of services rendered. It's a receipt. I could use it the same way and provide a delivery service of anything, and say that 0.0001 appearing at address X from address Y will signify delivery of your pizza, and if you sign the contract, you agree that is the only proof you need of pizza delivery. Perhaps there was a PS2H set up where, upon arrival with your pizza, I pick up a post it with the other half of the key, and release the 1 mBTC. You now know your pizza has arrived. There are better ways, just like there are better ways of getting BTC than paypal, but their lack of recognition isn't a problem with a properly-written contract. The problem is with verbal or poorly-written contracts, where it falls on Paypal to figure it out. An airtight contract is not an issue. I understand what you mean about a contract but I cannot see anyone on e-bay signing a contract when there are others willing to send bitcoin as soon as the payment is made . Maybe if we put in the description your contract terms and that by bidding on the item you accept blockchain's information as proof of delivery then even if paypal chargeback the money we could have a case in the small claims court . But getting paypal and e-bay to accept blockchain as official proof would save a lot of uncertainty . |
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I purchased paper wallets that were advertised to have 1 BTC each, but they had 0 each. The person reviewing the case apparently ignored the blockchain information showing absolute proof that the wallets had 0 balance. Don't expect the eBay dispute reviewer to use the blockchain info, or even basic logic when deciding on the case. I am not using eBay & DEFINITELY not PayPal for BTC transactions.
This backs up what I was told . They do not understand that the blockchain exists let alone know how to use it ,if we can educate them ,maybe there is some hope ,the more that contact them with this info the more chance there is . Unless like lots believe there is a conspiracy against Bitcoin . I find people fear what they do not understand ,ebay are no different . If they understand that their paypal could incorporate bitcoin wallets into their format then maybe we could make progress. Yeah, FYI this is not what I was advocating. Guess my business model is secure after all, since I spelled it out and it's still a mystery. Your model is secure ,but understand that paypal and e-bay will side with the buyer regardless, since they have not officially said any were that blockchain information will 100% prove you sent bitcoin anywere . The only place you could stand a chance is in court ,but you need very deep pockets to do this trust me .So in the end right or wrong ,people with average income lose always in the legal framework . |
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I purchased paper wallets that were advertised to have 1 BTC each, but they had 0 each. The person reviewing the case apparently ignored the blockchain information showing absolute proof that the wallets had 0 balance. Don't expect the eBay dispute reviewer to use the blockchain info, or even basic logic when deciding on the case. I am not using eBay & DEFINITELY not PayPal for BTC transactions.
This backs up what I was told . They do not understand that the blockchain exists let alone know how to use it ,if we can educate them ,maybe there is some hope ,the more that contact them with this info the more chance there is . Unless like lots believe there is a conspiracy against Bitcoin . I find people fear what they do not understand ,ebay are no different . If they understand that their paypal could incorporate bitcoin wallets into their format then maybe we could make progress. |
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FYI, in the interim, and I don't think it'll be necessary much longer, so I'll give away a "trade secret" here that we use at my company -- we take PayPal as payment for basically a brokerage service. (We do a lot more than this; this is perhaps 0.5% of our revenue, in this format. Probably less. If you can use PayPal, you usually can use a credit or debit card, or a bank transfer.) You don't pay us for bitcoins, you pay us to acquire them for you. Much like a lawyer could accept PayPal, so do we. Our fee happens to vary based on the market rate, but that is immaterial.
The contract you sign basically says, you agree to pay us X dollars for our services. Our service guarantees Y bitcoins in return, a time window for delivery (or sometimes a price range instead, so basically a limit order), and a location for delivery, which is a 3-way P2SH address for added security. You either get 2 of the 3 keys, and we have one, or you, we, and an arbiter get 1. The arbiter was more used in the beginning. Now we do more 2-of-3 P2SH. But anyway. At that time, you sign the second part of the contract where you agree you have received the services at the requested terms. No PayPal chargebacks possible.
Then we turn over our part of the key and you can go on your merry way. Note, the only risk to the buyer, is that we oddly decide to hold onto one of a 2-of-3 P2SH key, and neither of us can spend the coins; this is the same as if you wanted to do a chargeback and again, neither of us can spend the coins (this was the purpose of the arbiter, in case the market ate complete shit and the buyer felt it was worth it to skip the whole thing).
Yes, we still do this, so if you really are desperate to purchase BTC with PayPal, feel free to PM me.
If you want to sell on ebay ,they stated that they only cover physical items ,you are free to offer services or digital items but in the case of a dispute or claim you will not be covered and could receive a warning . I want the community to specifically point out that blockchain info is a bitcoin trusted public source that provide a searchable database to close the chargeback scam down on bitcoin transactions . This service would be tracable unlike other digital /virtual items services ,in effect exclude bitcoin from this blanket ban they currently have . Yes that's why you offer only contracted services. You can prove you did that, easily: Contract states I will facilitate delivery of X BTC to address xxxxx and that verification via [address at blockchain.info] is considered proof of completion of services; and that further, the address stated is brand-new and generated by the customer, and the customer certifies that they and no one else has access to the key. That sort of thing. They can charge back all they want but it will never fly. They will not officially accept blockchain info as proof even if you put it in the terms . You have already broken their terms by providing a service . Their exact words to me were that "e-bay is for the sale of physical items only " What I'am asking is for thecommunity to contact them to make Blockchain info their official proof ,we can put what we want in our terms but it needs to be officially recognised by e-bay or your flying by the seat of your pants if a dispute arises . |
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I would like the help of the community to turn paypal and ebay into bitcoin friendly environments .
Good luck. I'm sure you can convince Paypal to further bitcoin adoption and kill their own business as a result. I'am not going to convince anyone ,the community needs to do that . |
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I was thinking about antminer but wanted to make sure they work with bitminter first .
Did you just download that driver and plug it in and it got detected ?
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