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Matéria publicada nesta terça-feira (19) no The Wall Street Journal, conta que um dos desenvolvedores da bitcoin rotulou a moeda digital como uma experiência fracassada, aumentando a rivalidade sobre uma questão obscura, mas vital, que vem dividindo a comunidade há quase um ano. “ Os fundamentos estão danificados e, o que quer que aconteça com os preços a curto prazo, a tendência a longo prazo será provavelmente de baixa”, escreveu o desenvolvedor Mike Hearn na plataforma de blogs Medium. leia o resto aqui: http://www.jb.com.br/economia/noticias/2016/01/24/wsj-divergencias-tecnicas-ameacam-futuro-da-bitcoin/Assustador hein?? O que acham??
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Be very cautious, since for this price there's a chance you're not buying trustable accounts! use escrow always.
cheers
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Sei nao cara. É tudo muito novo. Cada uma dessas duas podem ser necessárias para alguem de alguma forma. Nao acredito 100% que bitcoin va sobreviver para sempre ou se tornar a moeda mundial. Estou 50/50 que ele pode ser o primeiro esboço de uma nova era financeira.
Quanto a uma nova era financeira, isso esta claro pra mim tambem!! O que eu vejo muita gente argumentando - e concordo bastante com esse argumento -, eh que o btc atingiu um ponto de crescimento exponencial que nao tem mais como nenhuma outra tecnologia alcançar. Estima-se que pelo menos um milhao de dolares sejam despejados dentro da economia btc ao dia, e esse numero cresce a uma taxa crescente. Qualquer outra moeda que surja estaria enfrentando uma competiçao injusta.
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What are your opinions on this? Will the block size problem be resolved or will the halving happen first?
I din't think that the problem of block size will be resolved so easy. The main core developer (Gavin Andresen) it is supporter of "another" bitcoin. With him even another charismatic developer as Jeff Garzik. The others remaining at bitcoincore are unknown people and with less contributes in the actual bitcoin (as it is actually). I don't see any point in which these two groups can be together. Every each of those has already its bitcoin and is working for it. So, according to me, not only before halving but even to much time after halving there it will not be a solution of this problem. Being not a technician (devs or programmer) cannot be able to tell if this division (if can be successful both variants of bitcoin) could affect the halving but normally not. It would be the the halving of the bitcoin of today and not of the bitcoin classic. Anyhow if both are bitcoin and have the same code and development (except the block size) can (or must) be even the halving of the other one. Anyhow this is not something that is much important for this thread so have no meaning to be analyzed more. What is this other bitcoin? That private/corporate one? I strongly believe halving will come first, since the block size discussion doesn't seem to have a solution in the near future. I would say at least one year so it's possible to begin to grasp a consensus.
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So is this really the path we are going to take? Bitcoin is being constantly developed by the developers. They hold the development sceptre in their hands and push everything down the throat of a bitcoin user, with the consensus of the miners (who on most part look only for their own interests).
Yes bitcoin is unfortunately becoming centrally planned, communist, and identical to a central bank fiat currency system. Even if bitcoin is not a fiat money, because the develpment holds the power to steer bitcoin in the wrong way, we should be careful how much power we give to the developers. We have now 5 year plans and 10 year plans for bitcoin? That's like soviet central planning isnt it.
It's easy to abuse power, bitcoiners should know that more than anybody, yet we give full power to developers?
Consensus or not, I feel they hold too much power , and bitcoin could be steered towards a dark path.
How much more development does bitcoin really need? When it will be over? Or it will be forever developed and the developers will become the Gods of bitcoin?
If this hole isnt closed then it will have big blowbacks later because anybody can just manipulate and corrupt the developers.
Next step: Governments will take over or "regulate" the development process of bitcoin, and game over. Bitcoin is gone as an independent currency.
i've never read so much BS combined. U gotta study a little History first, buddy, before starting to use terms and concepts it's pretty clear you don't have any ideia what mean. btw, if you know of any planning for the next 5 - 10 years, please share with us. If this planning is official then price can be predicted ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Ela custou menos de $1000? Porque se não me engano é possível importar um valor de até $3000 por pessoa física. Talvez possa entrar com alguma ação em um juizado especial, para receber os prejuízos decorrentes desse inconveniente.
pelo link que foi postado foi bem menos que 3000, a maquina custa 800 usd
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Cara vocês tem que falar diretamente com o Rocelo Lopes ele é o CEO da CoinBR
Como assim diretamente cara??? Nunca vi uma empresa em que se o suporte não responde você fala com o CEO. Se o amadorismo tá nesse nível ainda bem que não consegui falar, porque não coloco meu dinheiro numa empresa assim de jeito nenhum. Valeu pelo heads up. Exatamente o fato de o CEO responder todo mundo é que me deixou sem entender porque nao estão respondendo o suporte. As vezes conversar com ele pode ajudar a esclarecer esse problema... Nao apenas isso, mas o telefone divulgado no site nao atende faz tempo, pelo que entendi. Isso parece muito com empresas de fachada...
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.slidesharecdn.com%2Fstateofbitcoinandblockchain2016-160127210036%2F95%2Fstate-of-bitcoin-and-blockchain-2016-86-1024.jpg%3Fcb%3D1454002717&t=663&c=Q9OjhM_RbUMZQw) Acho que isso deixa claro quem vai sobreviver, crescer e se desenvolver, e quem nao, neh? Pra mim eh tudo uma questao de adoçao e "momentum" da moeda. Nao tem mais como segurar o bitcoin!
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Bitcoin is the only blockchain technology that has over a million dollars of security being pumped into it daily. Trying to use something else is as senseless as trying to create your own TCP/IP network that does not connect to the Internet. It might be useful for experimentation for some specific project, but it will never take over the Internet or even really be of much use to anyone but your small project.
Well, that's a pretty smart way to view it (economically speaking). If there's an exponential growth in bitcoin adoption (millions pumped in each day) than we might say it's already established as a pattern for all blockchain technology, no matter which coin appears in the scenario. It's just not enough to compete with all the "momentum" it already has.
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You inverted the cause and result: People spend energy to dig out gold because it has value, not because the digging action itself will generate value. Higher mining cost is a result of competition. You should ask why so many people crazily mine bitcoin even they pay more electricity than coin's exchange rate
This is my opinion as well. Even if a mining operation is deficitary in the short term, what a miner is looking is the long term, when it will compensate the invested capital and generate a reasonable profit. I believe that this "compensation points" for many people is the reason why there's still a good volatility in the market (I mean, not everyone os HOLDING), which helps to keep the market alive.
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Never thought about it, but in the case that there ends to be a very wide adoption, there will be lots of power compsumption and bandwith used just in updating the blockchain from a user to another. That is true.
Yeah, that is pretty obvious, but the question is, how does this actually impact the environment compared to other payment methods currently existing? Think about Visa or Mastercard, and all the infra-structure they have to mantain. Distribution of machines, issuing of cards, handling frauds, etc etc etc... That is a HUGE amount of resources that this analysis is not taking into consideration.
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Hey OP, could I join please?
Name: tommygunyeah Post count: 36 Rank: Jr. Member Bitcoin address: 12UcotZKNUzYHGEB54GyL1i9SQRZqaCnwN
tks a lot
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It's like Elvis, people insist on saying he died, but everybody knows he didn't.
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Is it automatic or should I post my info here, as other campaigns?
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i cant get how a person can mine 400,000khs??
it is real?
with a few hundred of gpus its possible ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) but for one normal person its to expensive @nartur I understand you. feel happy by your new pool^^ yes but im asking for it is real or fake? i cant imagine 450000 kh/s how a rig farm can do this? it smells me its fake. It's not fake, it's likely that it's a group of people who have many GPU's running on a dedicated miner and they just split the profits.
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join! http://fast-pool.com 0% FEE,NO PPLNS,VARDIFF,1GBIT,256 GB RAM,SSD DRIVES,1.3 WALLET,SSL SOON!we mined 570958696 dogecoin already....yes 570 MILLIONS DOGECOINSmuch profit! much wow http://fast-pool.com Well guys, thoses down times makes me loose about 40 000 doges.... I'm disapointed but supporting you so back, mining on your pool ! Hope we will reach 3GB and more again ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) i love that spirit!
thank you very muchBeen mining with you guys for about a week now, downtime wasn't great but many many pools have had it not just us. Really great support, the guy has put so much time and effort into keeping everything up and running for us (EVEN ON CHRISTMAS DAY!!!!) Keep it up ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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And why this pool, and not someting like multipool.us?
The choice of the admins, remember that a pool with no fee's (if advertised well) will become much more popular than one with forced fee's. (excluding other variables such as downtime etc)
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Question: why do you not ask a fee on this pool. Everybody should earn something, otherwise they will not last long.
In fact, how do you pay your bills with this pool?
People have the option to donate and I know that a lot of people do. I think that there are about 2000 miners in this pool so if there are lots of donations then that's how they are partially funded. But I'm sure that the donations don't make up the cost alone.
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Online wallet's were compromised. Should really keep your coins offline anyway it's a much much smarted idea.
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