Sure, the price on all gaming GPU's will come down another 15% to reach MSRP. At that price even with a 1080TI though unless you're heavily modding your ROI is still 11 months. Difficulty has risen almost 200% on all algorithms in the past 6 months. If you can show me a GPU that is at a 3 month ROI right now I'd be amazed. As much as it is great to remember the December bull run when 1080TI's were making $12 a day the fact of the matter is they make about $2, and the P102 is one of if not the most efficient GPU card on the market when at scale.
Thats my whole point, there arent any that will ROI in 3months and thats why people are waiting and that is why literally any card can be bought new off the shelf with no wait unlike what was going on 3,4,5 months ago when everyone was lucky to score a couple a week. Stock is all back in and now the retailers will have no choice but to drop prices SUBSTANTIALLY since miners are just not buying right now and the gamers are getting what they want and some are waiting for the new Nvidia to come out. Summer is here so electrical costs are going up sharply so that is directly coupled to all the grand scheme. One big waiting game and Im playing...waiting. On the other hand there is blood in the streets and many miners are selling off cards or their whole rig(s). Used cards can be had for a fairly decent price. RX 580 $200-$235. 1080, 1070, etc... even there its a used buyers market too although alot of room to come down there too. |
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Thanks, Raggie. I could not find the sub-forum you recommended in the Move Thread pull down list, so I placed it here. I do hope someone will help here. Thanks and enjoy, John.
ASUS B250 Mining Expert m/b will do 13 GPU's and another 6 P series cards for a total of 19. They can be had for around $100 new and $50-$70 used on Ebay. |
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Wow, that looks like a ton of work. Great investment though.
Yeah BUT he is working for himself. You have any idea how hard it is to fire yourself for being late to work? Or better yet, try to beg yourself for a day or even a week off! |
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To be fair, this card is not full retail. If you could link me any other retail company based in the US, hell even in the world that can mail you a P102 for less than $830 after shipping and taxes I'd be shocked. Our competitors based out of HK are charging about $920 after taxes and shipping, and we have yet to find anyone in the US even selling these cards. This is a deal. If this were a normal product for a company like this we'd be out of business with how small our margins are on this card.
The price will have to come down if nobody is buying. Supply and Demand. And we are waiting for 3 month ROI not 1.5yrs. |
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We seek deals, NOT full retail. Whos benefiting from this "sale", It sure aint the buyers fronting the $$$ for these cards judging from the price.
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in his mothers basement?!?! geeze I hope she gets a slice of what he makes if she don't that's just messed up and not the kinda crap id wanna hear about. sure ohh wow he has a 50k mining farm except HE WAS TO CHEAP TO PUT IT IN HIS OWN PLACE. oh fancy that id doubt he even has his own place. this is what happens when your too danm cheap and you just want to use people. shame on you for promoting this guy
When you get a real taste of life, you come back and let us know. Did it ever dawn on you that maybe he lost his home to (A) EX Wife took it all. (B)lost his job due to company closure (C)Got injured and lost job (D)Decided he was tired of working "for the man" and now works for himself while paying parents rent or (E) Its really none of your business what his business plan is let alone his life plan is. You sure rush to judgement awfully fast...Whats that about stones and glass houses? I do agree, don't judge to fast. However if any of that things happened to him where the hell did he get 50K for a farm? Borrowed from 401k Inheritance Sold property Lawsuit settlement Personal bank loan loan from parents He could just be a total Pimp Daddy |
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in his mothers basement?!?! geeze I hope she gets a slice of what he makes if she don't that's just messed up and not the kinda crap id wanna hear about. sure ohh wow he has a 50k mining farm except HE WAS TO CHEAP TO PUT IT IN HIS OWN PLACE. oh fancy that id doubt he even has his own place. this is what happens when your too danm cheap and you just want to use people. shame on you for promoting this guy
When you get a real taste of life, you come back and let us know. Did it ever dawn on you that maybe he lost his home to (A) EX Wife took it all. (B)lost his job due to company closure (C)Got injured and lost job (D)Decided he was tired of working "for the man" and now works for himself while paying parents rent or (E) Its really none of your business what his business plan is let alone his life plan is. You sure rush to judgement awfully fast...Whats that about stones and glass houses? |
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We know you run windows since you say TDP  1070ti is 180w by default. It is still lowered a bit. It needs at least 160w to stay over 550 sol's. No clue why you are even here. To put moronic kids like yourself in their place. Now run along snowflake and go play with your linux or ethos. You are correct. You have "no clue" so stop hiding behind your keyboard running your mouth. Which part of....You dont lose ANY money until you sell for less than you have in something (AKA Mining coins, stock market, car, truck, your doll collection and even your purses.  FYI...They arent laughing with you...they are laughing at you. You are definitely on something. How did losing money come into this quote? 1) I am older than you, you put your birthday in your user name. Who does that? Oh yeah, you do 2) We can swap linkedin profiles to prove I have a career (and career history) that will your whole life to shame. 3) You are not that funny. LMAO I said give it up kid AND I really meant it! Birthday? That is hilarious kid. "1187" is the model number of Remington 1187 Shotgun I use for hunting. I was born in 1971 kid. Career you say? Im over half way to my retirement working for the .gov as an electronic technician. 12 years as an electronic tech in automation and instrumentation before that and in the middle of all that an Aviation Electrician in VFA-37 (F/A18C Hornet) squadron United States Navy. Now how far did you say you could pee again? |
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MSI and EVGA 1080 can be had all day long at newegg for $550-560 usd. Also check Nvidia and EVGA store for deals.
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We know you run windows since you say TDP 1070ti is 180w by default. It is still lowered a bit. It needs at least 160w to stay over 550 sol's. No clue why you are even here. To put moronic kids like yourself in their place. Now run along snowflake and go play with your linux or ethos. You are correct. You have "no clue" so stop hiding behind your keyboard running your mouth. Which part of....You dont lose ANY money until you sell for less than you have in something (AKA Mining coins, stock market, car, truck, your doll collection and even your purses. FYI...They arent laughing with you...they are laughing at you. |
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Even if you are mining and selling immediately each week / month you will make profit. Enough to make it worth it? Probably not. The added electric is $50-$60 a month. And immediately selling coins would be like $300 for the month. So $240 profit a month.
But you can do better things such as mining the most profitable coin and selling then trading right away. Make more gains.
Or mining a coin you are going to hold for a bit. BCI right now the coin. Been mining and holding.
Based on what? Nvidia cards? Amd? 7 of them? 20 of them? 50 of them? Electric $50-$60 a month? How do you know what the cost of power is in any given city? Again, how many cards and what type determines power usage. What if coin prices go up...then so does profit. Same with down. So your answer(s) is so arbritary it isnt even funny. I was saying in my case you idiot. Obviously its different all over, and completely depends on cards. Since it is difficult to grasp items at scale, we will take it down - 1 * 1070ti. 550 sols 160w You will make a profit here. Not much, but a profit. Also depends on how you mine. If you mine a coin at $2 and wait until its $20 to sell, you made 10x more than the guy that sold that same coin for $2. There are many people that don't have any mining gear so just talk nonsense. People that have gear are still running them and making profit. How much depends on many things. Sound like you are the idiot, the idiot thats running a 1070ti at 160w instead of reducing the TDP. Kid you arent smart enough to back up your trash talk, so just give it up. |
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Even if you are mining and selling immediately each week / month you will make profit. Enough to make it worth it? Probably not. The added electric is $50-$60 a month. And immediately selling coins would be like $300 for the month. So $240 profit a month.
But you can do better things such as mining the most profitable coin and selling then trading right away. Make more gains.
Or mining a coin you are going to hold for a bit. BCI right now the coin. Been mining and holding.
Based on what? Nvidia cards? Amd? 7 of them? 20 of them? 50 of them? Electric $50-$60 a month? How do you know what the cost of power is in any given city? Again, how many cards and what type determines power usage. What if coin prices go up...then so does profit. Same with down. So your answer(s) is so arbritary it isnt even funny. |
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Just bought this board and.. its not starting when I press start button nothing happens.
Please guys tell me I didnt buy wrong cpu or memory.
It has:
Intel G4560
Kingston HyperX FURY DDR4 2400 MHz CL15 4 Gb
Power supply is Super Flower 1000w platinium and it is connected place A.
Edit:
Tried different power supply and ram slot's nothing changed. No power at all, no lights.
Is the CPU fan spinning up? Have the 8 pin CPU power cable plugged into the board? Have the start switch connected in the right place? |
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Many people bought rigs ,were expecting to break even just on a few months while prices were surging but alt prices quickly started dropping. The profitability of cards hindered. Perhaps some could make profit by selling back cards but the market would be saturated in that case too. Profit altcoin mining is once again going down so all in all I don't think this trend is a reliable way to make money.
Ill bet thats what people were saying in 2016...and then the topout over 19k happened in Dec 2017. YOU ONLY LOSE MONEY IF YOU SELL FOR LESS THAN WHAT IT COSTS YOU. Just like playing in the stock market. Your blah blah coin may not be worth alot right now but next month, 6 months, year, 2 years... |
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The new rates for me.... $.044/kwh ! Cha-Ching more profit for me!
0.044 in MA? Indiana |
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Probably your internet connection has failed.
If his internet connection fail he wouldnt have ANY hashrate and the mining program would automatically disconnect from his rig! |
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The new rates for me.... $.044/kwh ! Cha-Ching more profit for me!
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Your power hookups look ok and so does the spread of power across each power supply (8 pin). Im curious as to what your configuration is for power to your risers? 6pin, sata?(At riser). Are you using the traditional 6pin at the riser then have a cable that goes from the 6pin to SATA? It is very important to maintain limits on the SATA power bus (On each SATA Cable) and connect the SATA power in the correct spot on the PSU. (I would not exceed to GPU Risers connected to each SATA cable but I have been successful connecting (3) 1050TI's to one SATA cable) Be careful about accidentally connecting to the "8 pin" CPU connection on the PSU if it isnt used for what it is intended for (CPU connection on Motherboard).
Your ASUS PCIE torubleshooting screen (First to boot up before windows), does it show green for all slots used on the motherboard?
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"The 1060's fan seems to want to spin up, but then doesn't and seems to have this constant fan jiggle/wiggle like it's trying to start up. "
Theres your tattletail right there. You dont haven enough power available from your one 1000w to power all those cards, motherboard and hard drive. The jerking motion of the fan is a symptom of not enough output of the PSU.
Before overclock and undervolting
(6) 1070 @ 150w ea =900w
(2) 1050 @ 75w ea =150w
(4) 1060 @120w ea=480w
Total 1530w.
You are well over the 1000w rating of the PSU. In your post you mention that you got another 1000w PSU so if you are running 2 we need know what all you have connected to PSU#1 and #2. Dont forget the motherboard, cpu/fan and hard drive all draw power too. Most use 200w for those combined as a value when figuring out a mining rig setup.
If he has another configuration it would be best to actually test that GTX 1060 and get confirmation that card is working normally outside this rig. That rig is little to big to make test on it before he can test all non working components outside of that combo. Nah. I have 2 of these motherboards (3rd is on the way) and ive seen his symptoms. He has a PSU overloaded. The stereotypical sign is the fans herking and jerking, red on the PCIE status boot up screen for the slots affected . 6 of those 1070s AND the motherboard powered by just one 1000w PSU and you have an overloaded PSU. He needs to split he 1070s up by powering 3 of them to each PSU. Heres what I would do.... PSU 1 (3) 1070 @150w =450w (2) 1060 @120w =240w (2) 1050 @75w =150w Total 840w PSU 2 (3) 1070 @150w =450w (2) 1060 @120w =240w Motherboard @200w Total 890w And of course after overclocking and undervolting (Reduced TDP for Nvidia cards) the total power draw will be even less. I would use TDP of 65% and +150/+500 for the 1070&1060 cards and 75% TDP and +150/+500 for the 1050 TI cards. This will reduce power consumption substantially without slaughtering hash rates. These settings have worked well for me. My rig#2 is all Nvidia cards (1080,1060,1050TI) and its stable as hell. Thank you for your input. I decided to follow your input and break up the cards to different PSU's, but still have an issue: ATTEMPT 1PSU 1 (EVGA GQ 1000w): (3) 1070 ti @ 140w (2) 1060 @ 100w Motherboard @ 200w <----- everything worksPSU 2 (EVGA G2 1000w) (3) 1070 ti @ 140w <-------- 2 cards power up normally, but the 3rd has that fan wiggle/jiggle... swapped it out for a 1060... same issue... ATTEMPT 2:PSU 1 (EVGA GQ 1000w) (4) 1070 ti @ 140w Motherboard @ 200w <---- everything works PSU 2 (EVGA G2 1000w) (2) 1070 ti @ 140w (2) 1060 @ 100w <------- both 1060's (previously worked in Attempt 1) fail to spin up fully and both have that wiggle/jiggle... ATTEMPT 3:PSU 1 (4) 1070 ti @ 140w Motherboard @ 200w <---- everything works PSU 2 (EVGA G2 1000w) changes: (2) 1070 ti @ 140w (2) 1050 @ 75w <----- everything works... Could it be that the G2 PSU isn't supplying enough power and may be faulty? I can't see why the second PSU, which is a newer model and also is gold rated at 1000w from EVGA is unable to power up three 1070 ti video cards, or even two 1070 ti and two 1060 cards. I am stumped  Thanks for your time and help. Excellent troubleshooting and detailed results along with test setup. Your results all point to the PSU#2 being bad. Internally we know (with your info provided) That all common points in the power conditioning of the PSU are good. The output current capacity is doubled by paralleling rectifiers (this cheaper than installing just one high current output). It sounds like you lost one of them or the controlling electronics but I believe those are common to both rectifiers. To totally prove PUS#2 as bad just swap PSU 1 and 2 position and see if all the problems move to PSU#1 spot. If the problems do move to there then PSU #2 (previous) is bad. EVGA has 1000w PSU's for $119 and $149 (the price just went up, they were around $109. I just got 2 in last week. Great deal. They are located in B-stock on their website. Limit of 2 each type. I have the feeling my mother is going to be receiving shipment of some power supplies for me in the next state over once I hit my limit. hahahaha EVGA sold out of the one model. But they still have the one for $119. Both of mine came with everything they do when bought new. https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=210-GQ-1000-RX |
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I started to learn some things about mining. It's true - now is a good time to mine Zcash?
It's not a good time to mine ZEC as they have not confirmed if they will be forking to fight the Equihash ASICs. Seems like a lot of GPU miners have dumped them to provide support for other coins. thats ridiculous, now is the time! Difficulty has gone down or remained near the same. It appears many have bailed out. I am making a killing! |
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