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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains on: November 15, 2019, 09:24:29 AM
Almost there - we are focused on final tests and fixes. On Nov 20th the dApp will be available on the testnet for ETH, BTC and TRX. You will be able to try the swaps. In the form below you can provide your ETH address in order to send you some test ETH for swaps on Nov 20th.

http://bit.ly/2Q4bi7Y
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains (ETH,BTC,TRX) on: November 15, 2019, 09:22:35 AM
Almost there - we are focused on final tests and fixes. On Nov 20th the dApp will be available on the testnet for ETH, BTC and TRX. You will be able to try the swaps. In the form below you can provide your ETH address in order to send you some test ETH for swaps on Nov 20th.

http://bit.ly/2Q4bi7Y

i just submit using the form above but I'm still confused about what makes you different from other exchanges like shapeshift or coin switch?
because i think it's almost the same since if you want to use shapeshift you need to send eth and you will receive trx in your account

Thanks for giving it a chance!

About the difference:

- No middle man, really. You will be able to exchange one asset from network A for another asset from network B (e.g. BTC for ETH). We know that there are a lot of services allowing this - ShapeShift, Changelly etc. BUT the difference is that with Jelly it happens without the need of a trusted party between A and B (i.e. ShapeShift, Changelly). Hence, if Alice wants to swap her BTC to Bob's ETH, both Alice and Bob can now interact directly with the respective blockchains - no middle man services. This also makes the exchange almost feeless.

- Another use case is Compound. You can use Jelly to supply ETH/DAI/WBTC to Compound having only BTC. In contrast, if you choose to use ShapeShift,  you have a lot of additional steps before finally reaching Compound.

- One more cool use case. By using Jelly you will have a bridge between MakerDAO and BTC or any other coin implemented into Jelly. For example, you can go and open a CDP, generate DAI and come swap them for Bitcoin. 

- The process is relatively fast (actually as fast as it could be at the moment) and easy. The user experience is great even if you are very little familiar with cryptocurrencies/blockchain.

- The whole process is mathematically and cryptographically secured. The whole source code is/will be open sourced, so it can be easily verified and thus trusted (or not).


63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains (ETH,BTC,TRX) on: November 14, 2019, 12:56:00 PM
Almost there - we are focused on final tests and fixes. On Nov 20th the dApp will be available on the testnet for ETH, BTC and TRX. You will be able to try the swaps. In the form below you can provide your ETH address in order to send you some test ETH for swaps on Nov 20th.

http://bit.ly/2Q4bi7Y
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Jelly Swap - Real Implementation of Cross-Chain Atomic Swaps on: November 14, 2019, 12:55:21 PM
Almost there - we are focused on final tests and fixes. On Nov 20th the dApp will be available on the testnet for ETH, BTC and TRX. You will be able to try the swaps. In the form below you can provide your ETH address in order to send you some test ETH for swaps on Nov 20th.

http://bit.ly/2Q4bi7Y
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains (ETH,BTC,TRX) on: November 14, 2019, 08:38:03 AM
I've been hearing about it before and it made me interested of looking after it. And I guess there should be people who has more technical knowledge about this to try it out.

I noticed that the title table of your website says 'Jelly.io' while the website itself is 'jelly.market'.
Thank you, we will fix it today or tomorrow!
Thanks for noticing it but you should fix it asap. Because it's misleading that when someone visits your website it's also telling 'jelly.io' but if someone tries to visit that tab title website.

It will be showing nothing, yes, no website as it's not registered with any company/owner. Aren't you the web developer of this website and your position is for marketing?


it's fixed, thanks for the feedback again!
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Jelly Swap - Real Implementation of Cross-Chain Atomic Swaps on: November 12, 2019, 02:32:24 PM
Hey, thanks for being interested in our dApp! The official release is on 20th of November and until then a lot of internal testing, fixing and modifications are going to happen (leading to the platform malfunction). On 20th of November everything will be working around the clock, so please stay tuned!
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains (ETH,BTC,TRX) on: November 12, 2019, 11:36:24 AM
As people were asking about an official announcement, you can now see it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200835.0
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains on: November 12, 2019, 11:35:02 AM
As people asked about an official announcement, you can see it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200835.0
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN] Jelly Swap - Real Implementation of Cross-Chain Atomic Swaps on: November 12, 2019, 11:28:32 AM

What is Jelly Swap?

1/🚀 Jelly is a super simple-to-use #dApp that enables cross-chain Atomic Swaps without any intermediaries.

2/ 🚀 Jelly executes cross-chain transactions - it exchanges quickly cryptocurrencies between different blockchains (e.g. Ethereum and Bitcoin).

3/ 🚀 Jelly removes the middleman - it enables two or more parties to swap cryptocurrencies peer-to-peer without trusting a third party. It avoids unnecessary fees and eliminates counterparty, KYC & AML settlement, and custodial risks.

4/ 🚀 Jelly does not depend on a central authority or any infrastructure other than the smart contract. The source code is public and verifiable.

5/ 🚀 Jelly is highly secure - the atomic swap mechanism prevents fraud by using the Hash Time-Locked Contracts, which ensure that none of the parties will lose their funds.

6/ 🚀 Use case:
A simple real-life example is Compound. You can use Jelly to supply ETH/DAI/WBTC to Compound having only BTC. In contrast, if you use ShapeShift, you have a lot of additional steps before interacting with Compound

Website
https://jelly.market/
https://app.jelly.market/

Whitepaper
https://jelly.market/documents/Jelly-Swap-Ecosystem.pdf

Official Github Repository
https://github.com/weichain

When will Jelly launch?
Jelly will be officially launched on the testnet on the 20th of November 2019. You will be able to swap ETH, BTC and TRX (until Nov 20th only ETH and TRX swaps available - you can try them even now). They soon will be followed by EOS, NEO and Aeternity.

Bounty
Bounty Campaign will also be started on Nov 20th. Its aim is to encourage people try the dApp and leave feedback.
✅Get some testnet tokens
✅Swap
✅Win real DAI/ETH rewards
Further details will be soon posted on Twitter - https://twitter.com/jelly_swap

Social Media
Twitter https://twitter.com/jelly_swap
Discord https://discord.gg/3fCbp9U
Telegram https://t.me/jellyswap
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/823260878071807/

If you want to test the dApp now, leave in comments your ETH Address and we will send you testnet tokens. Feedback highly appreciated!
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains on: November 11, 2019, 07:42:30 PM
How is this any different as to use the Blocknet DEX, to exchange your funds peer 2 peer? A dApp that's been around for ages.

Nice seeing so much innovation in the DEX field, but you're promoting it as something "new" which I don't see at all.
Hopefully peer 2 peer trading will be used by more and more people in the future, since it's way more secure than sending your funds to a centralized hackable site, haha  Wink

I haven't heard about it till now.
I am not sure how does it work, but it looks like it is using some second layer solution - blocknet  seems like separate blockchain.

Jelly swap is meant to be more simple and to have instant liquidity like multi chain uniswap.
https://app.jelly.market/swap/ETH-TRX

I agree that we need more p2p trading and this is the future.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains on: November 11, 2019, 07:30:11 PM
Hey guys,

We are working on a new dApp which will help you exchange coins between different blockchains. Finally, we made a real implementation of cross-chain atomic swaps and it is working. We start with Bitcoin, Ethereum and Tron. Soon also EOS, NEO, Aeternity. We are determined to solve the interoperability problems between the different blockchains. It's high time to really start using crypto!

We launch on Nov 20th on the testnet.
If you want, you can write down your ETH address and we will send you some testnet tokens to try swap with the dApp.
Feedback is highly appreciated!

https://jelly.market/

Nice job! its a shame this wasent like 2 years ago, would have been very popular, but your a bit late. still should be popular tho Wink
of course we can always use more services in this scene so its still cool you are running one, but we have really trustworthy ones like Shapeshift now..
I like the idea of TRUE atomic swaps, shapeshift i dont think is, they act as middle man, but im not sure if having a middle man in this situation is all that bad..
Either way, nice to see another Atomic Swap service! Good Luck as you move forward Smiley

We hope that it will be useful.
Shapeshift is trustworthy, but requires KYC.
And with jelly swap, you can provide liquidity and earn some profit from the spreads in shapeshift you do not have such option.
Last, but not least jelly swap is much more decentralized and secure Wink

We will see what will happen, the future is bright!
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains (ETH,BTC,TRX) on: November 11, 2019, 04:27:50 PM
First, this is not new.

Second, you should move this topic by using the "Move Topic" button on the bottom of the thread, the correct place is "Service Announcements (Altcoins)" as your site does not support Bitcoin payments as far as I can see.

The innovation is the whole system not the HTLC in particular.
All the smart contract on the different blockchains, blockchain event listeners, liquidity provision modules packed in simple and intuitive UI for the end user - this is the innovation.
I have not seen massively used cross-chain atomic swap widget, working on chain, have you?
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains (ETH,BTC,TRX) on: November 11, 2019, 04:25:55 PM
I think this Bitcoin Discussion board is a wrong board for this topic. The best suit will be Service Discussion (Altcoins)
Talking about the service - it seems like Changelly type ?
It is different changelly is centralized service, this one is dcentralized and trustless.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains on: November 11, 2019, 04:24:43 PM
Hey guys,

We are working on a new dApp which will help you exchange coins between different blockchains. Finally, we made a real implementation of cross-chain atomic swaps and it is working. We start with Bitcoin, Ethereum and Tron. Soon also EOS, NEO, Aeternity. We are determined to solve the interoperability problems between the different blockchains. It's high time to really start using crypto!

We launch on Nov 20th on the testnet.
If you want, you can write down your ETH address and we will send you some testnet tokens to try swap with the dApp.
Feedback is highly appreciated!

https://jelly.market/
Interesting information! but i think atomic swap has already use at these moment, But the cross-chain i find it weird on how they do it. Is it really possible to do inter blockchain transaction using atomic swap? lets give the platform a benefit of a doubt. so far its only Ethereum and Tron is it required to used metamask?

Yes you need to have metamask, tronlink and we provide btc brain wallet on the browser side.
It is required, because if you broadcast your transaction is more secure and decentralized.
Basically you need wallets only for the chains that you want to use.
E.g you want to exchange ETH -> BTC, then you need only ETH and BTC wallet - metamask and bitcoin brain wallet.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains on: November 11, 2019, 04:21:35 PM
I don’t understand, if you say that you are doing something grandiose, then why no one knows about it? I read the comments, everyone writes that this already exists, or your service is not perfect. Maybe it’s worth finalizing in order to get around competitors?
It is in startup phase.
We have not released it yet, therefore it is normal that no one knows about us.
If I have to be honest, I believe that we are using a pretty innovative technology - HTLC contracts and BTC script on the different blockchains, combined with intuitive interface and opportunity for trustless market making.

I think that you should try the service and you will be amazed how different it is compared to the other solutions and everything is on-chain like a pure magic Smiley
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains on: November 11, 2019, 04:18:07 PM
You have to make an ANN (Announcement) Thread to explain what are the strengths of the project you are developing and what benefits we can get. You have to explain everything in the new ANN Thread. But if the thread is available, provide the link here so we can see it.
That's a great remark!
We will make a thread and share it here.
It will be released tomorrow.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains on: November 11, 2019, 04:16:47 PM
I thought I was seeing a lot of shits flying around in your website. It took me a few seconds to realize that they're supposed to be jellies  Cheesy


We start with Bitcoin, Ethereum and Tron.
I only see Eth and Trx as options, there's no Bitcoin as you mentioned.
Can you also explain to us how your service is different than what Changelly is already offering?

I would like to ask also if we can connect wallet at the same time? Metamask for Eth and Tronlink for Trx for example.


Hah, So do you like the shits/jellies or we should remove them Smiley
Yes we have implementation for BTC as well, by the end of the week this option will be available.

Everything will be tested on the testnet and we will have a bounty about it.

How is it different than Changelly?
Changelly is like shapeshift:
1 You deposit fund in their address/ bank account
2 They have liquidity providers or they execute trade and then send you the amount that you want
Problems - they are third party, the procedure is not trsutless, their services can be hacked, something along the chain could be broken (database, liqudity providers, exchange).
You risk to never receive your funds back.

How jelly swap works?
1 You lock funds in non custodial hash time locked smart contract ( only you know the pre-image for the hash)
2 Liquidity provider (could be anyone) locks similar amaount of value on the other blockchain useing the same hash.
3 You withdraw the funds from the other blockchain and reveal the secret pre-image
4 Liquidity provider withdraw your funds and the swap is finalized

At the worst case if the liquidity provider is malicious, your funds will be locked for a few hours and then you can refund them. No risk for loosing funds.
Second as the service is moredecentralized the fees should be lower than centralized exchanges.
Third everything is trustless and secure and No KYC is required. 
No deposit/withdraw fees, swaps are fast from wallet to wallet.

Yes you have to connect you wallet and broadcast transactions, otherwise it won't be trustless and decentralized.
We will support in the initial version metamask, tronlink and BTC brain wallet, so remember your passwords Wink

if you want to preregister for the bounty check this tweet:
https://twitter.com/jelly_swap/status/1193855369208041474

If you need more details about the tech, you can check the whitepaper here:
https://jelly.market/documents/Jelly-Swap-Ecosystem.pdf


78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains on: November 11, 2019, 02:48:51 PM
Hey guys,

We are working on a new dApp which will help you exchange coins between different blockchains. Finally, we made a real implementation of cross-chain atomic swaps and it is working. We start with Bitcoin, Ethereum and Tron. Soon also EOS, NEO, Aeternity. We are determined to solve the interoperability problems between the different blockchains. It's high time to really start using crypto!

We launch on Nov 20th on the testnet.
If you want, you can write down your ETH address and we will send you some testnet tokens to try swap with the dApp.
Feedback is highly appreciated!

https://jelly.market/
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / FINALLY- we can now exchange coins between different blockchains (ETH,BTC,TRX) on: November 11, 2019, 02:18:57 PM
Hey guys,

We are working on a new dApp which will help you exchange coins between different blockchains. Finally, we made a real implementation of cross-chain atomic swaps and it is working. We start with Bitcoin, Ethereum and Tron. Soon also EOS, NEO, Aeternity. We are determined to solve the interoperability problems between the different blockchains. It's high time to really start using crypto!

We launch on Nov 20th on the testnet.
If you want, you can write down your ETH address and we will send you some testnet tokens to try swap with the dApp.
Feedback is highly appreciated!

https://jelly.market/
80  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Testnet BTC Support on: November 07, 2019, 02:20:30 PM
I have 5 tBTC on my mobile wallet... I can send it to you if you post a signed message you'll give me the tBTC back once you're finished with your tests. I'm not a tBTC hoarder, but i do develop applications from time to time, so i use the tBTC myself from time to time, and i don't want to have to start mining on the testnet network when i need a fresh batch.

Thanks for your approach mate! But we can't give them back to you because we will use it. Thanks again! I appreciate it!
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