Unless of course, your intention is just to cause trouble...

I got something to say but Lord Acton said it better, Yhey.

@Dollux,

Love the quote by Lord Action. It rings true a lot of the time.

As we're getting philosophical, I feel of greater concern though, is corruption and a self serving nature.

Regarding your comments about the secretive, locked forums: they're a little misleading aren't they, as the forum https://Sprouts.Community is open to the public. Anyone can join.

To clear up once again some false inaccuracies sprouted by Oogone:


Oogone: "We have group Sprouts+ who want to do a swap to make Sprouts+"

True.

As discussed we have called our new currency Sprouts+. A new currency is unavoidable. Even Oogone and his dev team will need to create a new currency, forked (presumably) from the existing Sprouts code-base.

Oogone: "The proposal is to swap your holding in Sprouts with a reduction of 1:4000 and then on top of that hand over another 40% to the DEV team."

False. Inaccurate.

Part 1:
The ratio voted on by the community was for a 1:1000 ratio. The exact ratio (within the 1:1000) will not be known until the swap occurs as it's dependent on the total supply at the time.

Part 2:
As discussed at length now, in order to protect the new currency, as is done regularly by many new currencies, we have opted to hold in escrow, 16% to assist in avoiding mass dumps, volatility and other vectors of attack. We have also run calculations and come to the conclusion that a 24% capital account is needed in order to fund the new organisation across a minimum of three years.

Oogone: "To ease the pain it is explained that only 24% will be handed over to the DEV team for development and salaries, and 16% will be held by the DEV team to secure the network."

False. Inaccurate.

It was explained that to ease the pain, if you continue to stake between now and the coin swap, you'd likely end up making more than 40% new holdings before the swap takes place, thus, nullifying the additional 40% we're adding to the circulation.

I.e. That you'd end up ahead, rather than behind. Meaning: as long as you keep staking, you will not lose 40%, you will gain, more than 40%!

Oogone: "This means if you have 100 000 SPRTS now, you end up wih 15 Sprouts+"

False. Inaccurate.

As mentioned above, the exact ratio within the 1:1000 will be unknown until the swap.

The calculation is as follows: Total supply divided by 300 Million (allotment for swap) = ratio

Your holding divided by ratio = Sprouts+ holdings

Let's say though, for example, that the total supply at the time is 900 Billion coins and you hold 4 Billion coins:

(900 B divided by 300 M = ratio of: 3,000) (your holding: 4 B divided by 3,000 = 1,333,333.33 Sprouts+)

Oogone: "The 40% can not be put to a vote, because as stated it is a "fact" and community input will not be considered regarding this."

True.

In order to:

a) protect the new currency from various vectors attack and;

b) to have enough capital to actually run the organisation globally and to gain real value, we calculated we would need 24% capital (based on existing market cap and projections) spread across at least three years, and within this 24% we have included everything from eight people quitting our current day jobs and a few closing down our businesses to leasing office space, hiring employees, signing multi-year contracts with third parties, insurance and indemnity, sales and marketing campaigns, a buffer should things go wrong, and the list goes on.

Three of our team own and operate companies and businesses currently and have done so for a number of years. We have based the 24% on our combined knowledge of operating such entities and so we feel confident the figures we have come up with, are indeed a good representation of what will be required.

Also as discussed at https://Sprouts.Community , if the 16% reserve is no longer required after two or more years, we would discuss with the community how best to distribute it down the track.

The Sprouts & Sprouts+ Development Team

so I must have the open wallet and the pc switched on, right?

Thank you one more time!

Can you explain me also how i can increase my sprouts with the wallet?

So what is happening? We have two groups of DEV of Sprouts now...one wants to swap and make Sprouts+ and another to improve. Is that right?

Hi all,
My name is James and I am one of the pre-existing Sprouts development team of eight, formed initially by @gonnabetya back in April/May of this year and we are the third such team.

Rather than stay silent and let Oogone continue to poison the well and sprout baseless accusations, we’re taking a proactive stance and setting the record straight within bitcointalk as well as on the Sprouts community forum – https://sprouts.community

The reason Oogone was finally removed from the forum was due to his persistent, unprofessional and accusation laden comments, posts and replies aimed squarely at the development team.

Oogone was asked on several occasions and with a final official warning, to refrain from sprouting baseless accusations and passive-aggressive posts, which he opted not to do, deciding instead to post one last baseless, accusation filled message full of hot air, and so we removed him as we said we would.

We also discovered two separate accounts linked to the same IP belonging to Oogone, an alias possibly. There has been some speculation that Oogone knew he was going to create trouble and wanted a back door to continue disrupting our efforts after his expected removal but as stated, that's just speculation.

Oogone maintains the development team are scammers and that we’re out to take Sprouts holders holdings which is a little illogical and farfetched as Sprouts is heading for a certain death, regardless of anything anyone does or does not do relating to another currency. Also, because quite simply, we have no such intention.

I.e. Sprouts is heading towards an exponential curve of growth and at some point, the total supply will grow to such an extent that it will no longer be compatible with Litecoin, Doge and Moon as a trading pair.

Once that happens, all exchanges will remove Sprouts and the currency will cease to operate. The only way for this statement not to be true is if Litcoin, Doge or Moon drop in value as well, allowing for the trading pair to remain on an exchange.

So, let’s talk facts:

•   Sprouts IS dying and cannot be saved as an alteration in the code to correct the POS reward and supply, WILL create a fork in the blockchain, thus creating a new currency, requiring a new symbol, brand, etc

•   We are building a new currency called Sprouts+ because we (the dev team) came together as Sprouts holders and like the underlying philosophy that Sprouts was supposed to stand for. I.e. green, environmental conservation, doing good, etc, etc. We have expanded on these philosophies now to include charity based work.

•   None are obligated to swap their existing Sprouts holding for Sprouts+. The choice to swap your Sprouts for Sprouts+ is your decision and yours alone. Once again, we have stuck with the Sprouts community and have thrown a life-line and swap because of the aforementioned affinity we have with Sprouts and also because we too hold Sprouts.

•    If none are willing to do what we (development team) is doing, i.e. create a swap (or at least, new wallet with hard fork - which still means new currency), all who hold Sprouts WILL eventually lose their investment once Sprouts is delisted, it’s assured

•   If the development team (whoever they are) does not have access to:
        A) Capital
        B) a good percentage of coins held in reserve to help protect the new currency

Then, any attempt to swap Sprouts holders across to a new currency or hard fork, will likely not succeed

•   5 people out of 285 kicked up a stink in the forum about the 16% reserve and 24% capital

5 people out of 285 is exactly 1.75% of the community unhappy, leaving 98.25% happy people or at least, content. Not a bad outcome at all as we had anticipated for 16% unhappy to begin with.

We have had considerably more than 1.75% of the community post their appreciation for our ongoing efforts, expressing their support and commitment to swap to Sprouts+ when the swap occurs in spite of the 16% reserve and 24% capital.

Why? Because the majority realises they will lose everything if they don’t swap to something else or hard fork before Sprouts is delisted. Or, they’re happy with the way in which we’ve conducted ourselves to date and they “trust” we are looking after the entire community, not just ourselves.

If you are a member of the https://Sprouts.Community you should by now have realised, having read all our posts and replies to the 1.75% sprouting negativity and when combined with our explanations for the 16% reserve and 24% capital in conjunction with the soon to be released document detailing the allocation of the 24%, you should have realised we have no intention of scamming anyone or stealing anything from anyone.

We have stated all along and very clearly, that we encourage well thought out ideas, opinions and constructive criticism and we stand by this but when someone starts bringing down the positive energy and momentum we are trying to foster and build upon, when someone sprouts baseless accusations about one or more of the development team (or the team as a whole) in passive-aggressive attacks, we draw the line.

To any Sprouts holders or prospective Sprouts holders who have not yet joined the https://Sprouts.Community, come over and say hi and read through all of the posts the development team has published and then make your own mind up as to whether you feel we are operating with integrity, sincerity and with the best interest of the entire community at heart, or not.

At the end of the day, we're forging ahead with Sprouts+ and so if any feel uneasy to start with, simply wait for longer, don't participate in the swap before investing into Sprouts+ at some point down the road once momentum, trust and its value, have all gained.

The Sprouts & Sprouts+ development Team
Since April 2017

REALLY THANK YOU
I have used your counsil but with file on the community that you've linked me in one quote and i have solved the problem , the problem is the  nodes, but now is ok.
I have other question, why on coin market cap with more than 45.500.000$ of market cap sprouts is ranked 579?

What is the minimum amount to activate the stake?

I have repeat all , after download all build by the link that you have linked before, and now i have 1 connection active, if i remove your nodes and leave only the nodes in the config file that are in data folder of download rar work with 2 active connection, but my sprouts and my transaction is always not present....... i begun think seriously that i've lost my sprouts now that connection has been started.....

Wait, I have create the folder "Sprouts" beacause the wallet has been runned to the .exe file without install anything.
Maybe this is the problem....
Infact the folder "Sprouts" is empty before i paste the sprouts.config file.....
How i can solve it?

UPDATE:
I have found the folder, i have open the sprouts wallet and i have clicked on the function for buckup the wallet, and the folder is appear....
I try to follow your guide and i'll update you Wink

UPDATE 2
I have doing one more time everything, but not work, but i have read that work on win7, i have win10, maybe is a problem?

Hey oogone,

I've noticed you've been banned on forum for talking about 40% premine..
Well you've got my vote on that matter
You've tried telling the same as I did...

Are you still holding your sprouts? 

Why dont yall make sprouts an EXP token? It would take all the need to mine anything out. Staking could be done at your leisure and you wouldnt have to run a fullnode.

Maybe your silk gloves were too rough for Gonnabetya  

I don't know if they're newbies, i only see a standard forum with a thin plan, and a low probability for succes.


More important : what hasn't been said yet ;  

After the Fork sprouts+ will not be on any exchange (i'm sure #novaexchange and #coinexchange have not been informed of the plans)

Sprouts+ is not on coinmarketcap , and not here at #bitcointalk , which makes it even more questionable.


More food for thought:

The problem of the extreme stakes needs to be resolved, we need a volunteer to set up a chatroom, and assemble the whales for a plan to do the wallet-correction.
I propose to use this post as a temporary warroom

I have left my wallet open with staking, with quite a good amount of coins (few ks). It s been 12 hours , no stake yet. And it is telling me I should get a reward every few seconds. Is it paid at the end of the day? Is there something I am doing wrong?

No work, always says "0 active connection(S) to sprouts network......
I have lost my sprouts?