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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 18, 2014, 03:11:37 AM
We will use cloak send 2.0 this week?
we are currently waiting on the exchange trade function built into wallet, live market data in wallet and whitepaper for cloaksend2.0 short term goals not yet reached.
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 18, 2014, 02:10:43 AM
Can someone explain to me why we everyone here thinks we need mintpal to add us? Were doing fine on bittrex.

I'm for it just simply as it's something to do and something for everyone's concentration to go to while waiting... idle hands etc.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 18, 2014, 12:57:44 AM
 1900 votes and well said cryptoholic
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 05:50:15 PM
screens of the new website are looking pretty damn nice:  http://t.co/XwxuWNIDPI
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 01:50:39 PM
i'm not proud with my english but i think others understand me..?

Ya, you're good man. I agree.
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 01:28:33 PM
looks like the US is waking up
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 12:15:37 PM
The Dagger
Do you have someone for promotion?
Why don't we have a list of your people like BlackCoin have..list of all members involved ?
Why don't we have here for public relationship?
That would be very attractive for newbies..and investors..What do you think?

l saw that-- the socialblame --have a lot of enthusiasm maybe he would like to be some kind of PR for CLOAK
l Trust him..

I second
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 08:53:36 AM

this is awesome!
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 08:30:19 AM
Remember to vote on MintPal!

without sociableme here I keep forgetting
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 07:48:58 AM
I think the devs are most likely working their asses off to get the new release done to just get that done...  

Indeed and I certainly mean no slight to some of the most diligent and imaginative devs in captivity.

The point about the wallet is well made however because it is the user/investor interface. Also I don't believe the old adage about not building from/on broken has been superseded. That is especially true in this iterative build-enhance cycle.

The appropriate response would have been to simply tell WhiteLion, in this case but anyone who inquired, that yes, some people have found a need to use the workaround mentioned in the opening post but the decision has been made to leave the wallet as is because a new wallet with enhancements is being released imminently.

No fud and no hurt feelings.

well zing 96 had already addressed the issue and explained just that, he was just continuing with the same thing again... it's true that I could have repeated it again, but that last post read more as an irritant to me meant to get people riled up, that seemed to be the main point. I don't know if he thought we were attacking him for some reason or not, but he was already in defense mode apparently.  best just to shut it down imo
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 06:58:11 AM
@duru, nice response to a leading post.

@heartastack, your devotion to the coin is appreciated but your view of "fun" does appear to be trolling, at least t some of us. How about you leave taking flying kicks at newbies out of your array of amusements, at least on this forum?

To return to the original points, a wallet which does not reliably update for all comers is not a good look. It may well be clearly stated how to go about a workaround to make it work properly but how does the pitch go?

"Yes, we have all these really cool new features we're working on, we just can't make standard functions work like other coins."

Do you think that the most attractive path to new money? If not then fixing the wallet is of the highest priority rather than "we code so poorly we'll probably break it introducing new features anyway". That and hostile receptions on the forum are legitimate concerns to be addressed.

I think the devs are most likely working their asses off to get the new release done to just get that done... and in all honesty we haven't had a lot of new money coming in to ask questions, and not a lot of web buzz going on right now, I see a few things in some troll boxes here and there, but not much.

 The reason I didn't think we should talk about the hostile receptions at that time earlier, was because I knew white lion was starting to get under some people's skin, and that blowout was going to look worse on the message board than dropping it right then and just letting it mellow out a little. (he started today's posts by trying to report thesociableme to the dev...) yet it ended up turning in to a flame war where nothing gets done anyway. I'm on the middle here, people should be advised to not invest more than they can stand to lose, and should be encouraged away from emotional trading. I agree that new members should be answered without hostility, but that last guy came in at a bad time, nothing more nothing less. a few of us were there to do what we could. If the lashout people want to lash out I understand that too, it gets annoying and some people are better at dealing with it than others, and to be honest they say some funny crap sometimes, even the stuff directed at me.

I think the best way to deal with the whole thing is keep the fud under controll as best as possible and help where you can. infighting is just useless though.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 06:15:34 AM
@ TheDagger

Hey what are the news? I've missed this thread for like 2 days till now, and there are like 20 pages, so what comes out? And what plans?

I am too lazy to browse last pages, at least gimmie which pages Tongue

last 2 days, fud and arguments, new logo, wallet is being worked on right now... and now we are on to infighting
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 04:49:56 AM
Thank you Anaximander, your comments were on point and helpful. The new block chain did the trick.

I also appreciate the suggestion and reply from you darkproton.

ooooh darkproton... MY bad

@duru so far as I can judge, you are duplicitous. Anything someone says you are neither for or against them, but in later posts, you take pot shots. Why do you do that?

when have I taken a pot shot... that quote was because I thought you were talking about the bittrex wallet and he said " my bad" so when you responded to him that he was correct, I replied to him with that. I may have quoted the wrong message, but I still cant see how it could be construed as a pot shot.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 04:18:54 AM
Code:
Please take emotion out of your strategy. 

I am very sorry to report that "emotions" are by far more important to investors than facts, figures, statistics or fundamentals. Most investors are clueless and see someone recommend a coin and invest. Illogical, but true. Look at the recent "Logo" campaign for Cloak! Does the logo have anything to do with the fundamentals of the coin? NO!!!! It has to do with perception and how that perception motivates the emotional response of the viewer. Emotions are everything for a new coin. "I'm going to be rich if I invest in this coin!" Isn't that exactly what this forum is all about? To promote that emotion, that illusion?

I'm pretty sure the logo was mostly for time filler, something to involve the troops with while we wait. And no that is not what this forum is about, it is mostly about calming the emotional ones down. (at least for me it is...)

btw: vote # 1600 just now on mint
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 02:10:50 AM
Okay. I 'll let it go. I'm out of here! I know where I am not welcomed. I hope the next prospective investor who comes on your site gets a better reception than I did. BTW: I did NOT get any payout from the pool!!!

All the best and happy mining!

Lol, martyrdom is strong in this one. Gotta love rage quits.

Oh, damn. He must have taken his millions of prospective dollars with him Sad

if that's on me (is suspect it is) I didn't mean for them to rage, but the messages prior were just flame. apologies if mine was a dickhead response
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 01:25:27 AM
Actually we should address the issue rather than simply "let it go". WhiteLion is quite correct about both the hostile attitude on this forum and the wallet being critical as the user/investor interface.

I'm more a lurker than a poster but I humbly apologize to WhiteLion for the intemperate reception here.

We should be patient and above all, polite. If newcomers have not found the answer they seek then simply direct them to it or don't reply at all. If it helps try to remember that newbies are likely bringing more cash to the table.

*correct misspelling of WhiteLion's handle  Embarrassed

I'm just saying that I think from the past page of comments anyone who was on "high alert" at that specific point has looked back and seen any possible misstep (hopefully learning), there have been posts since his that could have been addressed in the same manner as this but weren't.  I simply believe that the horse is dead and there are no due apologies, (though I am sure they would be well received).
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 17, 2014, 12:47:29 AM
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We're all invested financially.  That's why it gets a little tense sometimes.  Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637704.msg7291668#msg7291668

Have a look at that post.  At the bottom, there's essentially a "catch-all."  For all wallet issues, do those steps.  I don't blame you for not reading all pages.  By the time I had posted, wallet issues had come up so many times (and a bunch more times afterwards).  So yes, perhaps there is an issue that you raised - a wallet shouldn't really get into this state.  But...with all the other items going on, it's of lower priority.

I am an investor. I do not collect cryptcoins. I buy and sell them. I do not give a flying Yuck how cutesy or professional the logo may be. I do not care how much fud or hype there may be. All I care about are the basics and the prospect of making money. If there is any member here who thinks that is mercenary, then you really have no business even being on this forum.

As for basics, there is nothing more fundamental than the Wallet! It is the door to the castle. Not the logo, not the Op page, not any amount of of rah, rah, rah is going to overcome an investor's attitude about this coin more than if the wallet works properly. The Wallet IS the coin. So as far as priority, it should be working and NOT need explanations or work arounds to get it to function properly. It reflects badly on the coin when it will not even sync without the user having to get advice. And when the user does seek advice by coming to this forum, how is he or she treated...RUDELY!!!!

I intend to be a member of this forum for a good while to come. I will have to pay my dues by answering newbie questions for the 100th time. That what a forum family does when a newbie arrives. They invite them in, welcome them, and make them feel at home. Calling them lazy bums or other names... what good does that do?


can we let it go?
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SUPER] SuperCoin - Testnet Anon Wallet|POS Superblock| Mandatory Upgrade! on: June 16, 2014, 11:28:29 PM
Once the payout reaches 1-2 coins per block, the PoW blocks will be cutoff and no PoW will be allowed. After it, the coin will become a pure PoS coin. It means no more mining inflation.
512 -> 256 -> 128 -> 64 -> 32 -> 16 -> 8 - > 4 -> 2 -> 1... The end of PoW

Block reward will halve in a day or so from 512 to 256 coins. This is HUGE.
That means inflation drops by half tomorrow. This is a big drop in inflation.
It will result in only 240k coins per day of PoW inflation. (less than 2% per day)
That's already enough to stop multipool affecting the price.

Heck, multipool won't even be mining supercoin due to low profits starting tomorrow. So zero chance!

Then 10 days after, block reward will again halve to 128 coins.
This means only 120k coins per day via PoW! (less than 1% per day)
Then multipool really CANNOT affect the coin price for good.

People who buy at these dirt cheap prices will be glad that they did later.
People who are selling their coins cheap right now will most likely cry later.

Is it a coincidence or did supercoin just go up nearly 20% due to my tweets & posts. Grin Grin

I am tempted to buy some more BTC now.


hahaha I was actually thinking the same thing
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 16, 2014, 11:08:59 PM
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he's heading up the mint voting initiative. He's been with the coin for a while now.
 I'd ask him directly if you want but I personally think it's good that he's excited.

Excitement is good! But I got put down hard yesterday for not reading each and every post ever written on this site before I was entitled to ask any questions. There were MANY posts by exuberant @thesociableme and it made me want to throttle him each time he jumped in my face. Can he at the very least tone it down? Would that be to much to ask? We are, hopefully, adults on this site and do not need shouting to get our attention. We are here because we believe in the future of this coin. I'm invested in real dollars, no need to preach to the choir!

You got put down because each and every one of your questions had been asked (and answered) at least 20 times in the thread.  Yes - they could have been answered more politely.  After answering them so many times, I guess some become annoyed by newcomers asking the same questions over and over again.

That being said, if you don't like his/her posts, just press the "Ignore" link below their name.  You won't see their posts anymore.  To be honest, the larger offenders are the ones who quote huge image posts and then type "+1."  But, you just scroll down past them.

ya, I've done the +1 thing before without putting any thought into it, then scroll back through posts and realize how annoying it is, live and learn. I think there are enough people in here at any given time that aren't in rage mode to just have a 'no instantly jumping down people's throat' rule. Also, in their defence, I saw why they were in rage mode, we have had many new accounts created just to come here and to other posts to spread doubt.  and they always start with "im not meaning to spread fud".
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | First Exchange Anon | Beta Open on: June 16, 2014, 10:19:56 PM
Site monitors: any possibility of getting @thesociableme to stop shouting? Exuberance is a good thing but does it have to be in your face in 1/2" bold text? Other posters seem to be able to convey the same information without being obnoxious about it. Hype, pump, have fun, but do it within the framework of proper forum etiquette.

he's heading up the mint voting initiative. He's been with the coin for a while now.
 I'd ask him directly if you want but I personally think it's good that he's excited.
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