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So you basically managed to advertise your BlackCard a bunch? Wow such contribute. |
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Not saying you are wrong Iconic, but to paint this as a "I got attacked for absolutely no reason" is a little bit disingenuous, you made numerous statements attacking me and my team personally (I have never said a single thing about you in a public forum.) You have called me and my team (and I am not talking about the foundation) everything from incompetent to downright useless. It's hard not to take these attacks personally when I spend 18 hours days glued to my laptop developing and working directly with the community. Not to mention the thousands of dollars I've sunk from savings in to development with out asking for donations once.
I think if you want to save any face, you should apologize to the community for your antics, as well as the hard working development team and community team. Like I said I live in NYC as well, if you want to meet face to face to discuss any of your concerns, I would more than willing to meet you as early as Monday. I would like you to tell me directly to my face, exactly what it is you think I'm doing wrong.
I for one would like to see a genuine reply from you, not one talking about yourself, or your products, or your interests, how do you plan to help move the crypto currency revolution forward?
Let me make this clear I still think you and the team are incompetent and cannot run a multi-million dollar project. My position remains the same, and after the past 48 hours I finally realized why we are not where we should be. Hours were spent spamming this forum, but no one from your team thought you should use that energy to spam BlackCoin news all over the net? Spamming FUD about me here made us no money, but spamming news about BlackCoin over the net might have made us all some money. Useless energy was spent was making a parody of me, but that same energy could have been spent making a video about BlackCoin. In regards to the multi-pool anything you have done has not only been for this community, you do profit from the pool as I do from the BlackCoin cards. In ALL my comments and occasional "rants", I NEVER accused someone of being a fraud or posted altered information to try and discredit at person. Also, I keep hearing this narrative of me "attacking" people. Please post an instance of me "attacking" someone when I wasn't responding to something egregious. Basically I am calming I never just attack someone out of the blue. I keep reading how hard this team works. Working hard doesn't also mean working smart. You guys are actually making the point I have been making the past week. If you are working as hard as you claim, and your efforts are falling short on many fronts, then obviously something is being done wrong. I will not allow you or anyone else to change the facts of the past two months. We are not where we are at because of the efforts of the dev team or the Foundation, we are here because of the efforts of this community. So if you are expecting an apology from me, you will have a better chance waiting for Mint to reach $1.00. Lastly, my "apology" to this community will be making everyone money from my efforts. So lets just walk back to our respective corners and get back to the business or making money. I will not be commenting on this anymore... Not good enough Iconic, I'm not going to let you high jack the message again. There are 50 pages of your attacks, any one can go and read them and see who did what. There is no guilt on my shoulders because I never took a penny from any one, and instead put my own time effort and money. You have done nothing but come on here with your hand out, begging people for coin with out throwing anything in yourself. You have caused NUMEROUS tantrums, hissy fits, and in general acted like a jerk. Even your coin desk article literally didn't talk about BC at all but only your gimmicky project. Why don you contribute something instead of sitting here typing in bold letters. What a joke-- I'm distancing myself from you, and I hope BlackCoin follows suit. You have no capacity to lead or develop, the last 50 pages of this forum can be put in to a book titled "How to not act like a businessman, and lose respect while doing it." It's people like you who don't care about crypto currency in the slightest, other than to rape a buck out of it and be done with it. If you think you can do better, then do it, but you are too busy on the forums bashing your finger tips. |
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Personal Attacks & Juvenile Videos
So even after the personal letters shared between SoepKip and I, there are still people who would like to continue the personal attacks. When people who have been strong critics of me begin to "defend" me, you know you have reached a low point and have crossed some serious lines. If you spent just 40% of the time you have been using to focus on me, and use that energy on promoting BlackCoin, we would probably be trading around $1.00 by now. When people organize a smear campaign to discredit one person, it makes others start to wonder "why are they doing this"?
What we have witnessed in the past 48 hours is pure unadulterated politics played out on a public forum. I f I had ignored the accusations and smear posts, people would have started to wonder "Why isn't IconicExpert addressing these accusations"? "Is what they are saying is true"? However, when I do respond to the accusations and attacks they just continue to do it, while innocent people on the sideline watch in horror. So either way I will always be forced with tough decisions on how I should handle such situations.
What I do find comical is you mistakenly think these kind of tactics work on a man like me. Did you think I was actually going to "give up"?. After two months you apparently haven't been paying attention. If every time I was faced with trials & tribulations and I just gave up, I would not be as successful as I am. All you have accomplished is making people on the sidelines question your motives behind this smear campaign, and made me realize how much of a threat you perceive me. People would be more inclined to "turn against" me if they saw results from your promotional and outreach efforts.
Please pick one narrative and stick with it. Am I a greedy shark with self serving motives, or am I egotistical attention "whore" wanting all the attention? Let me make it easy for you so your messaging can be concise. I am a businessman that enjoys making money, but more importantly I also like to make history. What drives me is the challenge of taking a young idea and turning it into something amazing, while profiting in the process. So if I thought hiring a PR firm would make BlackCoin price and popularity skyrocket I would support it 100% no matter whose idea it is. Do not be mistaken, I am here to make money, I am not here for fun. I support any good idea that will make me money.
With the help of this community my projects and efforts have already made history for BlackCoin on more than one occasion in a span of just two months. So ask yourself this: "What can Iconic Expert do in a span of a year"? Do I think I with the help of this community I can take BlackCoin to #1 YES.
So let's stop with the BS childish bickering and let's make money. If I am wrong and the PR firm approach works well we all will benefit. If the Wall Street event has the effect I believe it will, once again we all will benefit.
I don't think any one was playing politics. Not saying you are wrong Iconic, but to paint this as a "I got attacked for absolutely no reason" is a little bit disingenuous, you made numerous statements attacking me and my team personally (I have never said a single thing about you in a public forum.) You have called me and my team (and I am not talking about the foundation) everything from incompetent to downright useless. It's hard not to take these attacks personally when I spend 18 hours days glued to my laptop developing and working directly with the community. Not to mention the thousands of dollars I've sunk from savings in to development with out asking for donations once. I think if you want to save any face, you should apologize to the community for your antics, as well as the hard working development team and community team. Like I said I live in NYC as well, if you want to meet face to face to discuss any of your concerns, I would more than willing to meet you as early as Monday. I would like you to tell me directly to my face, exactly what it is you think I'm doing wrong. I for one would like to see a genuine reply from you, not one talking about yourself, or your products, or your interests, how do you plan to help move the crypto currency revolution forward? Edit: I'd just like to add one thing, its one thing to move forward, it's another thing to whitewash the entire event and forget completely what was said. There are consequences for what you say, even on the internet, you made your position very clear, in very big letters. |
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THE SKY IS THE LIMIT +1 Best post of the day IMO. |
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These people give, give and give and it honestly breaks my heart to see them being harpooned and gutted on the forums, by the same people who are directly benefitting from their actions. These same generous wonderful people are now receiving death threats, and the scorn of some very negative members of the community-- to those people I say shame on you.
I agree with a lot of your post, BUT: "Giving and giving" is one thing. Acting like a total jackass just because one feels "untouchable" as one of the "patrons" is not tolerable. These generous people you are talking about produced dupe account after dupe account yesterday, initiatedd polls that IE should sell his coins, one of the podcast guys urged him to do so many times... you can put as much money into this as you like, but such actions destroy all credit someone deserves. Its not as if I always agreed with was IE did/does and he does certainly need to step down in his reactions, but what these people did yesterday did hit absolute rock bottom and lacked any kind of decency. These generous people produced dupe account after dupe account yesterday... Prove it. I dont know who the fuck these guys were/ are, and what they have done or tried to do has been childish. But I won't believe for a second that these dupe accounts are the same as these generous people. So, please prove it, if you are making such a claim  hard to prove it since i am not an admin here. but lots of newly registered accounts, all attacking one person with their first post, one of them even providing screenshots from several weeks old threads from other coins as first action? C'mon, you don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to see what happened there. Well, I know some/ most of the "generous guys", and I am sure it was not any of them doing this. And I really hope it wasn't them. It's no use talking/ thinking about it without proof. You've been around for a while, and I've read all your posts. I'm pretty sure you are on the same page as those "generous guys". well, at least "the guy who jumped into the pool" was amongst them (and probably conducting the whole thing). I think someone who feels entitled to represent "us" should be able to deal with (even a bit overdone or unjustified) criticism instead of going tilt and lead a lynch mob to a forum. anyways, enough of that, i wholeheartedly hope that things cool down and everybody stays calm now. As many here i feel we should do as many projects as we can handle/fund, there is no need to talk anything down.If one of us thinks that something is a good idea, there is absolutely no reason why people "outside" should not like it, and even if it are only few that's still way better than zero/doing nothing."the guy who jumped into the pool" has spent a lot of time, effort, and money into Blackcoin. Please don't think badly of him. He just (started?) it with an open letter, addressing his frustration towards IE, who started telling us that contacting the PR firm is a bad way to spend / waste money. He's donated a lot of time and money towards this whole project. Please do not think badly of him. I think he wants the best for Blackcoin, but his post started the whole thing. I think you should double check your facts. |
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Also just on the general topic of personal attacks, and to squash any beef and put a stop to some of this FUD (for the sake of BC's market cap if nothing else.)
Like I said, and have stated before, I do live in NY -- I have appeared in person before at the NY Cryptocon, and I am not hiding my face or identity. If certain people have concerns (we all know who I am talking about) they can contact me and I will be more than happy to meet with them in person and discuss any issues they may have face to face (obviously in a well lit public place like a Starbucks or something.) Although I do not run the foundation, I know the members of it, I have known them since the BC experiment began, I will vouch for every last one of them. If this is a wise move or not I honestly and truly don't know. I just want the BS to end, and I want to get back to focusing on what really matters. I have made my public statement on reddit before, I'm not gonna relink it as I don't care to strike up any more arguing and or FUD. If you truly care, you can find it, I did not distinguish it because I was speaking personally and from the heart and not on an official capacity.
I have personally sunk thousands of my own dollars to fund my engineers, although pool fees help alleviate some of those costs, they don't come anywhere near covering them entirely. We are building something really unique, and something I so wholeheartedly believe in, that I am willing to drain my own savings. I have always been extremely hesitant of asking for donations from the community, you can ask hundreds of people who have attempted to donate, and I have politely declined. I believe in what I am building, I believe in this community, and I also believe in the crypto currency revolution. I do not ask anything of the community other than to look listen and learn with us, as we trail blaze this new frontier. I am full believer in the saying that a rising a tide lifts all boats-- every achievement we have as a community and every endeavor to raise the platform is what's going to make us powerful, and really make us a contender with bitcoin. In fighting and credit seeking will only make us seem greedy and foolish.
That being said, I whole heartedly believe in the foundation, because with out the people that now form the foundation (it's like 20 or more people now I think, and is open to any one with a positive attitude and resources to help advance the BlackCoin cause) we would not be where we are today, and although not one single person can take credit for BC's super star success, it is very clear to me and to the people who pay attention to these things carefully, that it's been a core group of people since the beginning donating their time, money (and I mean a lot of money) to help further the cause and increase everyones investments. These people give, give and give and it honestly breaks my heart to see them being harpooned and gutted on the forums, by the same people who are directly benefitting from their actions. These same generous wonderful people are now receiving death threats, and the scorn of some very negative members of the community-- to those people I say shame on you.
I don't know what more I can say, or if this is even worth posting, at the end of the day people will think what they want to think, and it's their goddamn right to do so.
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I have been away from here for a couple of days and frankly it's almost impossible to catch up with so many pages of related posts... Anyway, once again, fully knowing that that darts will be coming from every side, I am the self-appointed (apparently everyone is self-appointing themselves here on Blackcoin, so...) sober voice of of reason and common sense.
1.- Everyone in this forum knows that I don't see eye-to-eye with Iconic in general and that I have found most of his ideas outrageous and damaging to BC. His antics with WC and their forum and his ill-fated attempt at creating an instrument to manipulate the market cannot be defended, regardless. At the same time, his launching of the BlackCard, while (importantly) being a for profit (for his personal profit, that is) endeavor, has been praised without reservations by me numerous times. His Wall Street escorts march initiative, I have been critical about (critical in the sense of examining the pros and the cons, not necessarily on condemning it since I was and remain, on the fence if every day that passes more incline towards the negative on it). Since the community will pay for it, hey, if they do pay for it, let's see if it was wrong and, in any case, how wrong. I just lighted the red light that it could be quite disastrous fro BlackCoin's image and that the "good" that could come from it would be limited, at best. What is there to be gained from it? I still don't see what "awareness" could bring us. We are not selling anything, therefore being aware of a gloriously beautiful logo cannot possible translate into anything greatly beneficial. Would a Howard-Stern-like event be detrimental? I believe it can, but not much either so, if the few that give are for it, why not. Again, neutral on it.
I point this out because it is relevant to what comes below in which I am, almost completely, in favor of Iconic's position:
2.- I cannot be more AGAINST the PR initiative. Once again, it appears that the self-appointed BlackCoin Foundation -or in Iconic's definition "the core group" or the "IRC Boys"-, is ponying up $15,000 of their own pockets to support it because, well they think it is a great idea ... because no other crypto has done it before... err, maybe I am missing something here but that type or "originality" in and of itself, doesn't merit the initiative. What is the purpose? what is the campaign? what are we selling? One again, what is the rush? (this is and old question I initially posed to Iconic too). We are barely 2 months old, doing great. Why we need to do "original" things? what's the rush, again? who are we running from? I fail to see the need for any of this at all. I see though, other nearer and way more concerning, worrysome in fact, realities: the multi-pool is still showing that horrible patch and has no front end; more worrysome even, it's been only a few days since the pool was literally put on it's knees by a simple DDOS attack, which showed the amazing vulnerability, on one side, and made a lot of miners run away to greener, more secure ventures. While we are pursuing new visitors, it seems that we have the house dirty and stinking and that whoever that comers our way can be faced with pretty dangerous situations and circumstances...
3.- Transparence. It was nice to see the faces of three members of the dev team (or is it the Foundation?.. I'm confused -more later-? in the BlackCast -it was terrible, to say the least, that the three seemed to be paid endorses of Marlboro AND the Colorado Chamber of Commerce, but at least we saw their faces and learn a couple of first names... but other than that, there's no transparency at all here. Example: If you ask on IRC about the multi-pool, you get all kinds of "answers" from the ever-present "Soepkip" and "Gritt" to other volunteers, such as "Syllabear" and others. Depending on who answers, for instance Soepkip, you get that "the multi-pool is not directly connected with the dev team" (therefore when it fails, well, sorry but not the devs fault) or that the said multi-pool is "not vital" to BlackCoin. If Gnu or others answer, then it IS indeed vital... but still not directly connected or the responsibility of the devs... Confusing, isn't it? Then you go on and get answers -or lack thereof- to such questions as "when does the multipool buy their BCs?" (apparently -no official word on it either- "they wait for the dips", rather than buy at whatever market price it is trading the moment the coins are sold -presumibly for BTC?. Again, no official word on this. When are the miners paid? er... uh... depends on Crypsty, apparently... although officials fromn Crypsty have shown on IRC to deny -or partially deny- this. In any case, it seems that miners are paid, uh, whenever the person in charge is not too busy.... "while we develop a system that will make the payments instantaneous and the mining proceeds happen". It's all cloudy out there. No specifics, no one really responsible of anything... "it will happen", they'll tell you. Eventually.
This is in the very specifics of mining. When it comes to structure, we are lost. Now, apparently, we have a BlackCoin Foundation. Really. Land grab has been mentioned a couple times in the previous 40 pages of this forum but, let's ask: Who are the members of this Foundation? Are they the dev team? (I seem to have read that no, it's a group of BC investors). Well, since I am one such BC investor, how come nobody has asked me to join the Foundation or, at the very least, ask me if I was interested in having a foundation at all? Who decided we should have a Foundation and who are the members of that foundation. Names, real names. And wallet numbers, please. And with what criteria have they been chosen? and by who? I have to be on Iconic's side on this... all of a sudden a very aggressive and prolific campaign of posts in the forum by people that rarely if ever have posted before, are the self-appointed "BlackCoin Foundation". Who are these people and why are they "looking for our interests"? Or are they? I mean if this is a group big enough and with big enough wallets, they can manipulate at will to get the best of the markets and leave us all holding the bags? Who are they? what's their interest in having controlling power in BC? why spending $30,000 in a "branding" campaign that, at best, will bring nothing but awareness toward another copy of Litecoin with a slick logo? I mean, if they are ponying up $15,000 from their own pockets, who am I to question whatever they do in their own names? But if they do it as officially sanctioned BlacCoin Foundation, then I have some interest, direct interest, because I hold a sizable stake in this venture and I demand to know who are the "morituri's", etc. of this self-appointed foundation. Like I said, with full legal names and wallet numbers. That would be transparency.
3.- Let's be clear. And perhaps someone is going to explain to me in 10 words or less how wrong I am. BlackCoin is a Litecoin clone, with a gorgeous logo. Basically. A copy of a model (PoS) that was made public over 2 years ago (Nova) mixed with some other algos and of which there are at least 10 identical clones already out there and about 100 (a day) coming out. So, first of all and before we try the spend quite a bit of resources, why not getting to the basics? What the fuck is BlackCoin? Oh we are "fast", I get that... but isn't UltraCoin actually FASTER than BC? How much faster than LTC is BC? That is a claim that has to be true or it will backfire. But, lets assume, as some pretend, that BC is the fastest crypto in existence, how long is that claim going to remain true? Is it something we can base the "selling" of the coin on? I don't believe so. What else? Is it more secure, the most secure? How. In layman words -we are pretending to sell this to laymen, right?-. Are we a "holder of wealth" like someone has pointed, "for the wealthy"? How? with 1% annually that is exceeded by every other alto in the market? I really want the answers here, not at all trying to be negative. Exactly, in a very few words that everyone can understand, why is BC "the shit". The shit that merits public recognition through outrageous Wall Street marches and costly PR engagements determined by people of whom we know absolutely nothing about and masquerading as "The Foundation", all with an incredible craving for the coin to get to much higher prices in the exchanges and no substantial plan to actually grow it into something a small segment of the regular population will actually use some day. Picture me skeptical but all this seems designed only for the purpose of quickly -very quickly, 90 days or less- capitalize on an investment at whatever expense INCLUDING the future of the coin.
Sorry for the length. Hopefully only really interested parties would go through the whole thing. Every word is there for a reason, though... And I am not even asking for donations either.
The foundation this, the foundation that.. this that this that, okay done... If you have enough time to write a long letter about their transparency, why can't we set a time to develop the infrastructure or PR of the coin? One thing I commend you doing is questioning the coin's details in full, that I do believe is a contribution and should be answered by someone (much more technically versed) or answered in the blackcast. In my mind, crypto is a fast paced world. 1 week goes by with thousands of events that happen. Without something that pushes blackcoin out there, it will be drowned by the noise that is created... much like in a bitcointalk thread, so anything that happens for blackcoin, be it wallstreet event, PR event, crop circle.. anything.. it's something that someone is trying to accomplish to push blackcoin out there. Ofcourse they have their own motives to do that. In the mean time, blackcoinpool is in the works for its x11 and Scrypt-N compatibility, head on to the IRC channel > #BCPDev if you have a miner and could help out with tests! Well you have your opinion which is, in all and in some, as respectful as any other, no more. Same with what is "In my mind...", except that what you say it is, is quite vague and unsubstantiated. In reality, far from true that "...1 weeks goes by with thousands of events that happen..." It's simply not true. Not thousands, not hundreds, not even tens... if you are referring to anything of substance, anything with repercussions. Basically, two things happen every week: A bunch of new alts go by the bayside after initial ever so minimal splash, one, and 2, prices, generally, keep going lower for all the rest also. Those are the two events that repeat themselves weekly, if not daily, and that have real impact, real repercussions for everyone in one way or another interested in altos. Doge sponsoring a Nascar? Bah, does it affect the price? No, fuck it... irrelevant. Maybe it will win... maybe it won't. Nothing "happens" actually, ok? There are a thousand -or more- things that DO happen and that no one knows or talks about. For instance, 1000s of miners switch from one pool to the next because a) they don't trust the accounting, the payouts; or b) the pool is less secure and/or less profitable than others. But here we seem to be worrying about everyone's dick size, how to convert "normal" people to a coin that is new and does exactly what 100 others do (with a much more beautiful logo, that goes without saying) and that no one outside of cryptoworld would ever be interested in and about spending serious money in staging stunts of one manner or other to get people to ask "what the fuck is BlackCoin?" and then, when "explained" add "ah, I heard of all these "coins" for and by crooks, no thanks". Anyone with 5-year old knowledge of business, to the lemonade stand level, knows that ANY business has to cater to their customers, including future and potential customers. Regardless of pyrotechnics, stunts anf other gizmos, there's not one chance in hell that anyone would come to BlackCoin if not through the doors of Bitcoin. Not One. Therefore to go to Wall Street or Main Street with pretensions of "awareness" is just an exercise in futility. Besides that, who needs it? We are doing ("we" being BlackCoin) just fine as it is, without the pyrotechnics. People that is not mining is trading/investing in the coin. It is top 10. Has been for a long time and none of the newcomers nor the established ones is even remotely threatening that 8-9 position. In spite of people in Crypto not knowing of any difference between BlackCoin and any other coin. IOn spite of having been put in our knees with the DDOS attack. In spite of having a multipool portal that looks simply shameful. In spite of miners not having been paid -as of yesterday- for days. So, clen house and stop the futility, ok? As for the Foundation, again, if you want to be a member, THE LEAST that can be expected from you is to reveal you legal identity AND your wallet, so everyone knows your level of interest in BlackCoin and, of course, if you sell those coins and when and how many. If you refuse to make public this information, your motives are suspect and you shouldn't be a member. As simple as that. Plenty of qualified voluntaries... So, who are you, who is morituri, how many coins do you have in your wallet. No? Cant's stand the heat? get out of the kitchen. Very simple. I'm not a foundation member mate, not looking to be one either So... everything everyone does is just, as you say it, pyrotechnics.. by that I guess it's for show? I guess you could say that... Alrighty then, tell me what you would want to do? It seems that you are against each and every project that's up out there... What would you do? What's your reason to poke this argument further... (please correct me if i'm wrong, no intention to offence, just to clarify) 1. transparency 2. hating the foundation & their work 3. hating IE & his work 4. wasting money? I just want to know why are we arguing again and again about this... It's time wasted in bickering and less time in working on things we could improve as a community Oh.. and my arguments are I thinks and maybes... but well... Sorry :p Err no, not everything. When tech aspects such as security, reliability, access to stats by miners, etc is done properly, I applaud that. When some initiatives are clearly good, such as the BlackCard, even when done for personal profit as it is the case, I applaud that. When some of the devs come out publicly in a BlackCast, even though I deplore that they would be and advertisement for Marlboro and the Chamber of Commerce of Colorado, albeit unintentionally, I applaud that. As a matter of fact I applaud a lot... so much clapping that my hands hurt. I believe a bang up job has been done so far in the past 2 months. To your questions? 1 .- I believe transparency is what everyone wants, no exceptions. 2.- I do not hate anything. I would like to know what is (who is) the Foundation, I have the legitimate right to demand that information, and as for their work, when they do anything I'll be either supporter or critic. So far, for the little that we know, I cannot approve of anything that a group of anonymous "investors", supposedly appointed by finger by the devs, may decide. Specifically the PR initiative, for the little that have been divulged so far, I am extremely critical, pending the rest of the very important information. 3.- IE is not a saint of my particular devotion -ok, I find the guy and insufferable egomaniac- but I'd be first in line to praise any of his positive contributions just as I'd be -and had been -first in like in deploring some of his terribly damaging ideas such as the WC incidents and the ill-fated attempt at manipulating the markets. No hate whatsoever. Once again, his PR efforts so far, some of his ideas (VofS) and the BlackCard, although for personal profit, I have been and will be first to praise. 4.- Yes I consider both the Wall Street bimbo walk and the PR initiative gigantic waste of money but, since it is not MY money, I will just be a mildly amused spectator. Cannot support what I see as intrinsically negative or wasteful, but being other people's money, hey they pay big bucks for tickets to golf that, to me, is as thrilling as watching flies fuck, so to each its own. In closing, the arguing is motivated by very specific causes, quite legitimate, that need arguing because they affect the immediate future direction of a coin that, so far, has not needed any of these antics to have an spectacular run. Many here, me included, believe that we would continue doing just as well is nothing -that works and has worked so far- is changed and that all resources available should be employed in cleaning the house spotless before inviting any visitors in. Does it seem rational to you? For people who keep saying I was smoking pot during the black cast, I clearly showed in the beginning it was just roll your own cigarettes. Cigarettes are 14-15 dollars a pack in NYC, roll your own is like five bucks and lasts 2 and a half packs. It's just been bugging me, because I feel like I'm getting attacked for no reason on this issue-- seriously it was TOP brand tobacco. I don't think there is anything wrong with smoking weed, but I would not do that during my first meeting with the internet. I am a cigarette smoker, as many of us are, and to be honest, the BlackCast made me a little nervous, because I've never done a live broadcast with my face before. Cigarettes help take the edge off a little bit, I know you can't see but at the beginning I was also sweating a bit, and the smoking relaxed me and help me articulate. I know this is a silly issue to focus on, but I thought I would just clear it up. If you re-watch the cast, it's literally one of the first things I say-- for the next cast I'm buying regular cigarettes to avoid this confusion, and to any one who thinks I shouldn't be smoking during the cast, that's your own objective and please don't project that on grown adults who can make their own decisions. Had to get this off my chest ;P all this talk of smoking made me really crave a smoke. Thanks. |
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 And on the "Umbrella-fund" promo announced earlier today https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6525167#msg6525167 I will from time to time randomly pick two names from a hat to send freebies to. All the obvious names of hard workers are in there, 19 of them at present, and I will add more. I've been around since day 1 and know pretty well who's who. The first results are in. Don't laugh: TheDogeOfWallStreet Iconic Expert pm me with a shipping address if you wish to collect, or regift to whomever. Shipping+handling is taken care of. Donate in any amount to BHMXU4jpMRwruz3Gs2HV9QQgZrxq2cHA5t to support the promo, whose main purpose is to have some fun supporting whatever's happening. Omg this is so freaking awesome, I was actually just staring at the umbrella image and thinking how cool it would be to get one, and that I should buy one, and then read the text. I'm gonna make some T-Shirts with some cool images and illustrations related to BC, and I'll sell them at the cheapest possible price (I won't take a single penny.) Let me mock some stuff up over the next day or two and I'll send Jab a free one as a thank you for the neat umbrella!! BLACK COIN SWAG AWW YISSS!!! |
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I think that would be actually really interesting, reading both of your analysis's you can get a pretty good idea of what the market is doing. JL if you are reading this, I can talk to Ralf and we can probably get it going! I hope www.dailyblackcoin.com catches on, easy to read format, really up to date and Black Coin centric, staffed by enthusiastic and interesting contributors. I really hope more people step up and contribute! Keep up the good work guys, and I look forward to reading more of your analysis! |
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Some one just pointed out to me that buy-black posts on www.dailyblackcoin.com! Catching up on some of it right now, I am really enjoying what he has written, kudos! |
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BTW, Buyblack and Jesse, I really enjoy your analysis, one of you guys should start a blog or a wordpress so other people can read about it with out it getting lost in the mayhem of the forums.
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BTW,
For those attacking MCTaino aka Wizrig/Wizfarm, saying he hasn't done anything other than the BlackCast, you should know that Wiz has donated thousands and thousands of his own personal dollars in to BC related promos and events. Unlike some other people on here acting like kids with their hands out, WizFarm has been busy dedicated his time and thousands upon thousands of his own dollars to support Blackcoin, and it's so disgusting and sad to see people who are actually donating money and actually donating their time be treated like that.
If you guys actually care about BlackCoin you would wise up quick fast and in a hurry, and realize that it's people like Wiz that make all this kind of community stuff possible. He is literally one of the major driving forces behind the community and has helped fuel development and promotion purely out of his own pocket.
Shame on any one talking bad about him, reading it hurts me personally, and it hurts the efforts of what we are trying to do.
You guys should be kind to each other, and remain excellent.
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Hello BlackCoin Community As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use… Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to change…
BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.
BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD.
The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:
1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.
2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!
Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).
The Plan
The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is… With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.
Thanks and please donate today!
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Be the change you want to see in the world. By the way, I spoke with the agency as well and they were very straight up and very prepared to talk to us. They have a concrete plan to get us properly noticed, and help us attain real adoption. Not only is this is a complete first for the crypto world, but the foundation has already even raised half of the funds necessary. The entire foundation, and the people organizing this are so talented and committed, that this is what's truly going to increase the value of Blackcoin in the long term, not some gimmicks or attention grabs, but real organized and targeted information, delivered to a proper audience, like a real business. The dedication from the foundation members is staggering. This is not just a slapdash effort to throw stuff up on the web, but this is a serious and concise plan that the community can properly get behind. This is what we have to do if we want to be taken seriously, and be seen as something other than bored kids playing with computers. I for one commend and applaud the efforts of the foundation and it's members. The amount of work that went in to getting this organized, and the amount of fundraising happening in the background has been staggering and over whelming (in a positive way.) The Blackcoin Foundation is the only organization that is officially sanctioned by the developers, and that is where we will be focusing all of our community efforts from. I look forward to entering this brave new world with you gentlemen, let us make this happen, and make history. -TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet - BlackCoinPool.com |
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