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[Astroxjr]

Astro that is completely unfounded. We will be giving everyone as much information as possible when we can.

I understand expensive does not mean value. As with everything we are taking a risk. And we are taking 50% of that risk personally. If the community doesn't see fit to help so be it.

Does not help though does it.

You can't expect people to help fund something that you state has X value, when we can't make an informed decision - its counter intuitive  

There is a possible way to agree on a path forwards:

Will you be providing open accounts/invoices so that the community can check the costs after the event ??


Since a foundation should be none profit, they usually have a level of transparency about how & where funds are spent.



[edit]
Actually this applies to IE too I guess.

Still waiting on confirmation about transparency guys - you want us to blindly donate to PR - will you be transparent about actual costs and money.
Open books for community paid for projects is a complete must !

Thanks

[Gazza1]

THE SKY IS THE LIMIT

+1

That's what I'm talkin about

[IconicExpert]

Personal Attacks & Juvenile Videos

So even after the personal letters shared between SoepKip and I, there are still people who would like to continue the personal attacks. When people who have been strong critics of me begin to "defend" me, you know you have reached a low point and have crossed some serious lines. If you spent just 40% of the time you have been using to focus on me, and use that energy on promoting BlackCoin, we would probably be trading around $1.00 by now. When people organize a smear campaign to discredit one person, it makes others start to wonder "why are they doing this"?

What we have witnessed in the past 48 hours is pure unadulterated politics played out on a public forum. If I had ignored the accusations and smear posts, people would have started to wonder "Why isn't IconicExpert addressing these accusations"? "Is what they are saying is true"? However, when I do respond to the accusations and attacks they just continue to do it, while innocent people on the sideline watch in horror. So either way I will always be forced with tough decisions on how I should handle such situations.

What I do find comical is you mistakenly think these kind of tactics work on a man like me. Did you think I was actually going to "give up"? After two months you apparently haven't  been paying attention. If every time I was faced with trials & tribulations and I just gave up, I would not be as successful as I am. All you have accomplished is make people on the sidelines question your motives behind this smear campaign, and made me realize how much of a threat you perceive me. People would be more inclined to "turn against" me if they saw results from your promotional and outreach efforts.

Please pick one narrative and stick with it. Am I a greedy shark with self serving motives, or am I egotistical attention "whore" wanting all the attention? Let me make it easy for you so your messaging can be concise. I am a businessman that enjoys making money, but more importantly I also like to make history. What drives me is the challenge of taking a young idea and turning it into something amazing, while profiting in the process. So if I thought hiring a PR firm would make BlackCoin price and popularity skyrocket I would support it 100% no matter whose idea it is. Do not be mistaken, I am here to make money, I am not here for fun. I support any good idea that will make me money.

With the help of this community my projects and efforts have already made history for BlackCoin on more than one occasion in a span of just two months. So ask yourself this: "What can Iconic Expert do in a span of a year"?  Do I think I with  the help of this community I can take BlackCoin to #1 YES.

So let's stop with  the BS childish bickering and let's make money. If I am wrong and the PR firm approach works well we all will benefit. If the Wall Street event has the effect I believe it will, once again we all will benefit.

[Wulfcastle]

Personal Attacks & Juvenile Videos

So even after the personal letters shared between SoepKip and I, there are still people who would like to continue the personal attacks. When people who have been strong critics of me begin to "defend" me, you know you have reached a low point and have crossed some serious lines. If you spent just 40% of the time you have been using to focus on me, and use that energy on promoting BlackCoin, we would probably be trading around $1.00 by now. When people organize a smear campaign to discredit one person, it makes others start to wonder "why are they doing this"?

What we have witnessed in the past 48 hours is pure unadulterated politics played out on a public forum. I f I had ignored the accusations and smear posts, people would have started to wonder "Why isn't IconicExpert addressing these accusations"? "Is what they are saying is true"? However, when I do respond to the accusations and attacks they just continue to do it, while innocent people on the sideline watch in horror. So either way I will always be forced with tough decisions on how I should handle such situations.

What I do find comical is you mistakenly think these kind of tactics work on a man like me. Did you think I was actually going to "give up"?. After two months you apparently haven't  been paying attention. If every time I was faced with trials & tribulations and I just gave up, I would not be as successful as I am. All you have accomplished is making people on the sidelines question your motives behind this smear campaign, and made me realize how much of a threat you perceive me. People would be more inclined to "turn against" me if they saw results from your promotional and outreach efforts.

Please pick one narrative and stick with it. Am I a greedy shark with self serving motives, or am I egotistical attention "whore" wanting all the attention? Let me make it easy for you so your messaging can be concise. I am a businessman that enjoys making money, but more importantly I also like to make history. What drives me is the challenge of taking a young idea and turning it into something amazing, while profiting in the process. So if I thought hiring a PR firm would make BlackCoin price and popularity skyrocket I would support it 100% no matter whose idea it is. Do not be mistaken, I am here to make money, I am not here for fun. I support any good idea that will make me money.

With the help of this community my projects and efforts have already made history for BlackCoin on more than one occasion in a span of just two months. So ask yourself this: "What can Iconic Expert do in a span of a year"?  Do I think I with  the help of this community I can take BlackCoin to #1 YES.

So let's stop with  the BS childish bickering and let's make money. If I am wrong and the PR firm approach works well we all will benefit. If the Wall Street event has the effect I believe it will, once again we all will benefit.

+infinity

[Charloz24]

Both ideas will work

[Luxasd]

Personal Attacks & Juvenile Videos

So even after the personal letters shared between SoepKip and I, there are still people who would like to continue the personal attacks. When people who have been strong critics of me begin to "defend" me, you know you have reached a low point and have crossed some serious lines. If you spent just 40% of the time you have been using to focus on me, and use that energy on promoting BlackCoin, we would probably be trading around $1.00 by now. When people organize a smear campaign to discredit one person, it makes others start to wonder "why are they doing this"?

What we have witnessed in the past 48 hours is pure unadulterated politics played out on a public forum. I f I had ignored the accusations and smear posts, people would have started to wonder "Why isn't IconicExpert addressing these accusations"? "Is what they are saying is true"? However, when I do respond to the accusations and attacks they just continue to do it, while innocent people on the sideline watch in horror. So either way I will always be forced with tough decisions on how I should handle such situations.

What I do find comical is you mistakenly think these kind of tactics work on a man like me. Did you think I was actually going to "give up"?. After two months you apparently haven't  been paying attention. If every time I was faced with trials & tribulations and I just gave up, I would not be as successful as I am. All you have accomplished is making people on the sidelines question your motives behind this smear campaign, and made me realize how much of a threat you perceive me. People would be more inclined to "turn against" me if they saw results from your promotional and outreach efforts.

Please pick one narrative and stick with it. Am I a greedy shark with self serving motives, or am I egotistical attention "whore" wanting all the attention? Let me make it easy for you so your messaging can be concise. I am a businessman that enjoys making money, but more importantly I also like to make history. What drives me is the challenge of taking a young idea and turning it into something amazing, while profiting in the process. So if I thought hiring a PR firm would make BlackCoin price and popularity skyrocket I would support it 100% no matter whose idea it is. Do not be mistaken, I am here to make money, I am not here for fun. I support any good idea that will make me money.

With the help of this community my projects and efforts have already made history for BlackCoin on more than one occasion in a span of just two months. So ask yourself this: "What can Iconic Expert do in a span of a year"?  Do I think I with  the help of this community I can take BlackCoin to #1 YES.

So let's stop with  the BS childish bickering and let's make money. If I am wrong and the PR firm approach works well we all will benefit. If the Wall Street event has the effect I believe it will, once again we all will benefit.

+infinity

[UdjinM6]

+1 to every "Let's f*cking do it!" and I just want to see 2 simple SHORT posts now:
1. progress on Wall st donation
2. progress on PR donation

[Luxasd]

Friendly reminder to donate to all Blackcoin projects.

BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street


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BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
 



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[bozzie]

Glad to see some resolutions and positivity come back.  I have a lot of belief in this coin and it starts getting chipped away slowly when I see people constantly disagreeing. It makes me think, maybe people can't handle things that are decentralized.

[TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet]

Personal Attacks & Juvenile Videos

So even after the personal letters shared between SoepKip and I, there are still people who would like to continue the personal attacks. When people who have been strong critics of me begin to "defend" me, you know you have reached a low point and have crossed some serious lines. If you spent just 40% of the time you have been using to focus on me, and use that energy on promoting BlackCoin, we would probably be trading around $1.00 by now. When people organize a smear campaign to discredit one person, it makes others start to wonder "why are they doing this"?

What we have witnessed in the past 48 hours is pure unadulterated politics played out on a public forum. I f I had ignored the accusations and smear posts, people would have started to wonder "Why isn't IconicExpert addressing these accusations"? "Is what they are saying is true"? However, when I do respond to the accusations and attacks they just continue to do it, while innocent people on the sideline watch in horror. So either way I will always be forced with tough decisions on how I should handle such situations.

What I do find comical is you mistakenly think these kind of tactics work on a man like me. Did you think I was actually going to "give up"?. After two months you apparently haven't  been paying attention. If every time I was faced with trials & tribulations and I just gave up, I would not be as successful as I am. All you have accomplished is making people on the sidelines question your motives behind this smear campaign, and made me realize how much of a threat you perceive me. People would be more inclined to "turn against" me if they saw results from your promotional and outreach efforts.

Please pick one narrative and stick with it. Am I a greedy shark with self serving motives, or am I egotistical attention "whore" wanting all the attention? Let me make it easy for you so your messaging can be concise. I am a businessman that enjoys making money, but more importantly I also like to make history. What drives me is the challenge of taking a young idea and turning it into something amazing, while profiting in the process. So if I thought hiring a PR firm would make BlackCoin price and popularity skyrocket I would support it 100% no matter whose idea it is. Do not be mistaken, I am here to make money, I am not here for fun. I support any good idea that will make me money.

With the help of this community my projects and efforts have already made history for BlackCoin on more than one occasion in a span of just two months. So ask yourself this: "What can Iconic Expert do in a span of a year"?  Do I think I with  the help of this community I can take BlackCoin to #1 YES.

So let's stop with  the BS childish bickering and let's make money. If I am wrong and the PR firm approach works well we all will benefit. If the Wall Street event has the effect I believe it will, once again we all will benefit.

I don't think any one was playing politics.

Not saying you are wrong Iconic, but to paint this as a "I got attacked for absolutely no reason" is a little bit disingenuous, you made numerous statements attacking me and my team personally (I have never said a single thing about you in a public forum.) You have called me and my team (and I am not talking about the foundation) everything from incompetent to downright useless. It's hard not to take these attacks personally when I spend 18 hours days glued to my laptop developing and working directly with the community. Not to mention the thousands of dollars I've sunk from savings in to development with out asking for donations once.

I think if you want to save any face, you should apologize to the community for your antics, as well as the hard working development team and community team. Like I said I live in NYC as well, if you want to meet face to face to discuss any of your concerns, I would more than willing to meet you as early as Monday. I would like you to tell me directly to my face, exactly what it is you think I'm doing wrong.

I for one would like to see a genuine reply from you, not one talking about yourself, or your products, or your interests, how do you plan to help move the crypto currency revolution forward?

Edit: I'd just like to add one thing, its one thing to move forward, it's another thing to whitewash the entire event and forget completely what was said. There are consequences for what you say, even on the internet, you made your position very clear, in very big letters.

[lectrolux]

+1 to every "Let's f*cking do it!" and I just want to see 2 simple SHORT posts now:
1. progress on Wall st donation
2. progress on PR donation

3.progress to the moooooooooooooooooooooon!

[Astroxjr]

Back to programming, nerd.

Sigh and another fucktard - where are the mods !!

[L3pje]

[Gazza1]

Get on with it and make this thread self moderated so we can kick the trolls out.  What are you guys waiting for.

[gpools]

Friendly reminder to donate to all Blackcoin projects.

BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street


Donation addresses:

BC: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP
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LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ
DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT

BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
 



Thanks and please donate today!
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[mctaino]

IE
"I am here to make money, I am not here for fun. I support any good idea that will make me money"

Go ahead folks keep paying this man's bills while he plays with your emotions on how his new genius idea is going to help bc grow.

1. Your Press release campaign was a bloated scam, you should return my Donation. Do you really think I believe your intentions after that. Dude you know you ripped people off.

2. You Ripped My artwork for the USB Wallets then Scammed People asking for BC  donations knowing quite well BC price was moving up. So people ended up loosing coins, and you making double and triple profit. $5 was the cost of the USB wallet but you had to profit and ask for $20

3. Then once you find out the DEv team is organizing to move projects forward you feel threatened, you start to spread Fud because your scams are in jeopardy of loosing funding

Listen I can care less what you do but to say you are coming here to help promote BC, LOL while taking peoples coins to flush them down the toilet to cash out to pay your bills or hold them for personal gain. Dude your in the crap list with me.

This is the way you do shit. You do your project, people see what you did and if they feel like donating they will.  With you projects dont start without asking people for coins. It's like you said "I am here to make money, I am not here for fun. I support any good idea that will make me money"

Now go and get your 4 cult followers to rub your little ego.. Your a sore looser and by the way the blackcast has 1400 Views 67 likes and obviously 3 dislikes from your camp... Im going to keep on calling you out so people dont fall for more of your self centered scams.

i would of respected you more if you would of done your projects and had people donate afterwards. If people want to donate to you and your projects again thats there problem at this point. Like I told you already whenever you are ready I will gladly buy your coins. Stay in your lane with your scams

[IconicExpert]

Not saying you are wrong Iconic, but to paint this as a "I got attacked for absolutely no reason" is a little bit disingenuous, you made numerous statements attacking me and my team personally (I have never said a single thing about you in a public forum.) You have called me and my team (and I am not talking about the foundation) everything from incompetent to downright useless. It's hard not to take these attacks personally when I spend 18 hours days glued to my laptop developing and working directly with the community. Not to mention the thousands of dollars I've sunk from savings in to development with out asking for donations once.

I think if you want to save any face, you should apologize to the community for your antics, as well as the hard working development team and community team. Like I said I live in NYC as well, if you want to meet face to face to discuss any of your concerns, I would more than willing to meet you as early as Monday. I would like you to tell me directly to my face, exactly what it is you think I'm doing wrong.

I for one would like to see a genuine reply from you, not one talking about yourself, or your products, or your interests, how do you plan to help move the crypto currency revolution forward?

Let me make this clear I still think you and the team are incompetent and cannot run a multi-million dollar project. My position remains the same, and after the past 48 hours I finally realized why we are not where we should be. Hours were spent spamming this forum, but no one from your team thought you should use that energy to spam BlackCoin news all over the net? Spamming FUD about me here made us no money, but spamming news about BlackCoin over the net might have made us all some money. Useless energy was spent making a parody of me, but that same energy could have been spent making a video about BlackCoin.

In regards to the multi-pool anything you have done has not only been for this community, you do profit from the pool as I do from the BlackCoin cards.

In ALL my comments and occasional "rants", I NEVER accused someone of being a fraud or posted altered information to try and discredit at person. Also, I keep hearing this narrative of me "attacking" people. Please post an instance of me "attacking" someone when I wasn't responding to something egregious. Basically I am claiming I never just "attack" someone out of the blue.

I keep reading how hard this team works. Working hard doesn't also mean working smart. You guys are actually making the point I have been making the past week. If you are working as hard as you claim, and your efforts are falling short on many fronts, then obviously something is being done wrong. I will not allow you or anyone else to change the facts of the past two months. We are not where we are at because of the efforts of the dev team or the Foundation, we are here because of the efforts of this community. So if you are expecting an apology from me, you will have a better chance waiting for Mint to reach $1.00.

Lastly, my "apology" to this community will be making everyone money from my efforts. So lets just walk back to our respective corners and get back to the business or making money. I will not be commenting on this anymore...

[Thomas-s]

Having another seizure?

THATS IT CALLING YOU OUT


ICONIC IS A DESTRUCTIVE TROLL, ONLY HERE TO MAKE MONEY OF HIS PROJECTS... NOT HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY


Disregard This TROLL

EGO IS THE ROOT OF EVIL... FOR THE SAKE OF YOURSELF AND OTHERS YOU NEED TO STOP AND THIS NEEDS TO STOP... IF YOU WANT TO GET OUT GET OUT NOW I WILL BUY YOUR COINS..... ENOUGH WITH U ALREADY

Listen IF YOU HAD THAT KIND of money you would PAY 4 UR PROJECTS LIKE I DO. GET OF THE HOURSE ALREADY...  Your not the center of attention who cares....  SELL ME YOUR COINS and MOVE ON

[Astroxjr]

IE
"I am here to make money, I am not here for fun. I support any good idea that will make me money"

Go ahead folks keep paying this man's bills while he plays with your emotions on how his new genius idea is going to help bc grow.

1. Your Press release campaign was a bloated scam, you should return my Donation. Do you really think I believe your intentions after that. Dude you know you ripped people off.

2. You Ripped My artwork for the USB Wallets then Scammed People asking for BC  donations knowing quite well BC price was moving up. So people ended up loosing coins, and you making double and triple profit. $5 was the cost of the USB wallet but you had to profit and ask for $20

3. Then once you find out the DEv team is organizing to move projects forward you feel threatened, you start to spread Fud because your scams are in jeopardy of loosing funding

Listen I can care less what you do but to say you are coming here to help promote BC, LOL while taking peoples coins to flush them in the toilet to cash out to pay your bills or holden for personal gain. Dude your in the crap list with me.

This is the way you do shit. You do your project, people see what you did and if they feel like donating they will.  With you projects dont start without asking people for coins. It's like you said "I am here to make money, I am not here for fun. I support any good idea that will make me money"

Now go and get your 4 cult followers to rub your little ego.. Your a sore looser and by the way the blackcast has 1400 Views 67 likes and obviously 3 dislikes from your camp... Im going to keep on calling you out so people dont fall for more of your self centered scams.

i would of respected you more if you would of done your projects and had people donate afterwards. If people want to donate to you and your projects again thats there problem at this point. Like I told you already whenever you are ready I will gladly buy your coins. Stay in your lane with your scams

From how you describe things, all PR are scams.
I guess you calling for one thing should be universal.

Do NOT donate to anything unless its transparent ?
I agree, infact this includes the fondation too as the more they ignore calls for transparnecy, the morte it really does start to smell.


BTW i claim I have invested 10K in a project that will lift the lid on BC - but i can't tell you jack shit about it, but I need 50K so please donate to : 123donotdonate2me

 

[mctaino]

IE
"I am here to make money, I am not here for fun. I support any good idea that will make me money"

Go ahead folks keep paying this man's bills while he plays with your emotions on how his new genius idea is going to help bc grow.

1. Your Press release campaign was a bloated scam, you should return my Donation. Do you really think I believe your intentions after that. Dude you know you ripped people off.

2. You Ripped My artwork for the USB Wallets then Scammed People asking for BC  donations knowing quite well BC price was moving up. So people ended up loosing coins, and you making double and triple profit. $5 was the cost of the USB wallet but you had to profit and ask for $20

3. Then once you find out the DEv team is organizing to move projects forward you feel threatened, you start to spread Fud because your scams are in jeopardy of loosing funding

Listen I can care less what you do but to say you are coming here to help promote BC, LOL while taking peoples coins to flush them down the toilet to cash out to pay your bills or hold them for personal gain. Dude your in the crap list with me.

This is the way you do shit. You do your project, people see what you did and if they feel like donating they will.  With you projects dont start without asking people for coins. It's like you said "I am here to make money, I am not here for fun. I support any good idea that will make me money"

Now go and get your 4 cult followers to rub your little ego.. Your a sore looser and by the way the blackcast has 1400 Views 67 likes and obviously 3 dislikes from your camp... Im going to keep on calling you out so people dont fall for more of your self centered scams.

i would of respected you more if you would of done your projects and had people donate afterwards. If people want to donate to you and your projects again thats there problem at this point. Like I told you already whenever you are ready I will gladly buy your coins. Stay in your lane with your scams

HEre read it one more time