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61  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Carlin describes today's world eloquently... on: October 24, 2011, 10:42:36 PM
That's exactly how slavery was abolished in most countries.  People worked within the system and changed it.

Define "the system".

It no different from inheriting hair colour.

*facepalm*

You say my analogies fail...

You are so fucking brainwashed.
62  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Carlin describes today's world eloquently... on: October 24, 2011, 10:19:13 PM
The legal system you are born into can't be changed.

Why? Says who?

You can improve it by, for example, abolishing slavery.

So, those who despise slavery must work within the system that created, supports, and profits from slavery... in order to end slavery? Think about this idea for more than a few seconds.

But you can't decide "The legal system didn't apply to me."  It does.

I'm not saying it doesn't. It does because if I act otherwise, I will be murdered and my murderers will be celebrated. I am saying "nobody should be bound by a contract to which they did not agree".
63  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Carlin describes today's world eloquently... on: October 24, 2011, 10:00:38 PM
The "should" has no real place in that sentence.  Its the nature of life that you can't choose where you are born into.  Just like you can't help it if you acquire eye colour from your parents, you can't help but acquire nationality slavery from the circumstances of your birth. 

You make this too easy!

Why should some people be born into the bondage of slavery? because people like you allow it

Why should all people be born into the bondage of nation-states? because people like you allow it
64  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NEW VIDEO - "Love Bitcoins" - a great introduction to Bitcoin on: October 24, 2011, 09:58:40 PM
One more thing. Those two girls keep showing up everywhere. I dont know if they are your life partners (lucky you!), business partners or just hired looks, but if they do have a meaningful job at bitpay, then you should have them or her say so. Somehting like " Hi, I am Alison, and I am executive whatever at bitpay." It would be 10x more powerful for various reasons.

As a hired actress/voice over, she is frankly, not that good. But if she is an executive at the company, you would look completely different at her performance. In the same way no one would hire Steve Ballmer to do a commercial for anything, but if you know he is the CEO of microsoft, its different when he speaks (okay, not by much LOL).

Totally agreed.
65  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Carlin describes today's world eloquently... on: October 24, 2011, 09:50:42 PM
You are American.  Born free in the richest country in the world and you can't change that fact no matter how hard you wish.

How is my relative freedom relevant to the question of whether I should be bound to a document to which I never agreed?
66  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NEW VIDEO - "Love Bitcoins" - a great introduction to Bitcoin on: October 24, 2011, 09:45:38 PM
I like the video, but I feel that your female spokesperson is way too overplayed. I just get the feeling like I'm being conned by an attractive woman who wants something from me. Her attitude seems completely faked.
67  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Carlin describes today's world eloquently... on: October 24, 2011, 09:40:34 PM
It fails as an analogy

No, it doesn't, and you can change that fact no matter how hard you wish it to be.

68  Other / Off-topic / Re: Libertarians Are Sociopaths on: October 24, 2011, 09:35:06 PM
In Rwanda. Hutus. A tribe in war with Tutsi.

I'm not really familiar with this so I'm just going to cherry pick some quotes from Wikipedia. Feel free to poke holes in my limited understanding...

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It was the culmination of longstanding ethnic competition and tensions between the minority Tutsi, who had controlled power for centuries, and the majority Hutu peoples, who had come to power in the rebellion of 1959–62 and overthrown the Tutsi monarchy.

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The assassination of Habyarimana in April 1994 set off a violent reaction, during which Hutu groups conducted mass killings of Tutsis (and also pro-peace Hutus, who were portrayed as "traitors" and "collaborationists"). This genocide had been planned by members of the Hutu power group known as the Akazu, many of whom occupied positions at top levels of the national government; the genocide was supported and coordinated by the national government as well as by local military and civil officials and mass media.

Can you say with a straight face that the Rwandan genocide would have occurred without nation-states?

In Darfur. SLA and JEM two tribal groups vs Janjaweed militia, a collection of arabic tribes.

You mean versus Janjaweed militia, the Sudanese Armed Forces, and the Sudanese Police Foreign Mercenaries?

Destroy violent drug cartels simple? Only in a simple mind. Explain to me what you think happens if they end drug prohibition.

If it's legal, the cartels no longer have a monopoly and will have to compete with legitimate businesses. In exactly the same way that the end of alcohol prohibition neutered (I won't say killed) the mafia.
69  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Carlin describes today's world eloquently... on: October 24, 2011, 09:02:14 PM
Endlessly.  You are obsessed with being like a slave.  I happen to think that slavery was very unpleasant and you trivialise it by comparing your good fortune with the misery of slaves. 

You are not a slave.  Your life is not remotely like that of a slave.  Stop being so immature. 

It's. A fucking. Analogy.

"... count your blessings" is to levels of freedom

as

"... count your blessings" is to levels of slavery

Neither one is a justification for the grievances inflicted upon the relatively better off.

edit... a simpler analogy in the hope that you can wrap your head around it...

BitterTea, the relatively wealthy, relatively free United States Citizen is to the average human being on the planet

as

the house slave, the relatively taken care of, relatively free slave is to the average slave

Nowhere in there am I saying that BitterTea == slave
70  Other / Archival / Re: EDITED TITLED: Solidcoin 2.0 GPU CUDA Nvidia Miner by MaGNET in Alpha Test on: October 24, 2011, 09:00:37 PM
Yeah Actually I do, I like flushing out you Coinhunter clones and ass lickers.

But if it's no threat, why the twisted panty reaction  Grin Grin Grin

BCE, you discredit yourself in my eyes when you make weak arguments like this... There's no indication from the provided screenshot that there is anything malicious in this file.
71  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Carlin describes today's world eloquently... on: October 24, 2011, 08:53:15 PM
You are American.  On a global standard, you are born rich and free.  Instead of comparing yourself to a slave, why not count your blessings?

"You are a house slave. On a plantation standard, you are born rich and free.  Instead of comparing yourself to a field slave, why not count your blessing?"

Still not a justification for slavery. How many times do we have to go through this?
72  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Carlin describes today's world eloquently... on: October 24, 2011, 08:48:17 PM
Comparing being born rich and free

Bullshit, on both counts.

with being born a slave is a very bad analogy. 

I was merely trying to get through to you that

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Look on the bright side...there are worse places to have been born that the US.

is not a justification for binding me to some dead men's signature, any more than

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Look on the bright side...there are worse plights to have been born into than slavery.

is a justification for slavery.
73  Other / Off-topic / Re: Libertarians Are Sociopaths on: October 24, 2011, 08:44:40 PM
Have a look at what happened in Rwanda and tell me that it can't be called a war at all.

Sure. Who committed the atrocities?

Saying it's not even in the same ball park is ignorant to the point of being offensive.

You said tribal wars. I was expecting you were talking about actual tribes, not nation-states.

Or have a look at Darfur.

You'll have to refresh me, what happened and who did it?

Not even the big bad government can fight the cartels

They can destroy the violent drug cartels in one simple way: end drug prohibition.
74  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Carlin describes today's world eloquently... on: October 24, 2011, 08:37:43 PM
Look on the bright side...there are worse places to have been born that the US.

"Look on the bright side...there are worse plights to have been born into than slavery."

Still not a justification for slavery.

Being born in a rich free county makes you feel that you are as badly off as the people shipped to the plantations and worked to death.

Are you asking for pity?

Do they not teach analogies in your public school system?
75  Other / Archival / Re: EDITED TITLED: Solidcoin 2.0 GPU CUDA Nvidia Miner by MaGNET in Alpha Test on: October 24, 2011, 08:27:38 PM
Just thought I'd mention the new SolidCoin Beta 7 is out now and working very nicely.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38674765/beta/solidcoin-201b7.exe

 Cool

Dropbox... professional... not scammy at all.
76  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Carlin describes today's world eloquently... on: October 24, 2011, 08:24:12 PM
Look on the bright side...there are worse places to have been born that the US.

"Look on the bright side...there are worse plights to have been born into than slavery."

Still not a justification for slavery.
77  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: mtgox requires physical identification on: October 24, 2011, 08:22:03 PM
What a sad story, bearing in mind the nature of Bitcoin Sad

In what way is this the nature of Bitcoin?
78  Other / Off-topic / Re: Libertarians Are Sociopaths on: October 24, 2011, 08:20:30 PM
Eh, the most murder occurs in African civil wars my friend. Millions of lives. The UN rapes the remains.

Is that what he was referring to by "tribal wars"?

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The Rwandan military and Hutu militia groups, notably the Interahamwe, systematically set out to murder all the Tutsis they could reach
79  Other / Politics & Society / Re: George Carlin describes today's world eloquently... on: October 24, 2011, 08:19:11 PM
I don't think I said "we" as I am not American.

What I said is that if you want to implement your interpretation of the US constitution, that affects other people and you need to justify it to them. 

Do you not agree with that? 

I want to implement nothing.

I merely object to the idea that a piece of paper, written and signed by men long dead, to which I never agreed, should be binding upon me.
80  Other / Off-topic / Re: Libertarians Are Sociopaths on: October 24, 2011, 08:17:32 PM
So the tribal wars in Africa are ... what?

Not even in the same ball park as the wars waged by nation-states, if they can even be called wars at all.

Or the drug wars in South America?

You mean the ones caused by nation states prohibiting the production, distribution, and use of certain substances?
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