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I am not vaccinated. It doesn't seem that it'll have any positive effect to me (lots of vaccinated people still get covid), but can have negative impact. I don't want to get experimental vaccine, such a thing should be well paid job. I don't think my country is rich enough to spend so much money for covid-restrictions and I don't want to participate on destroying life to next generation of our descendants. Our government lied too often about covid to be trusted anymore.
Shit man, are you trying to give me false hope or something?!? I don't understand about what hope you are talking about. I just typed my reasons why I became anti-vaxxer these days... |
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I am not vaccinated. It doesn't seem that it'll have any positive effect to me (lots of vaccinated people still get covid), but can have negative impact. I don't want to get experimental vaccine, such a thing should be well paid job. I don't think my country is rich enough to spend so much money for covid-restrictions and I don't want to participate on destroying life to next generation of our descendants. Our government lied too often about covid to be trusted anymore.
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Politicans should be regarded only as administrators who govern and legislate within a remit under the framework of a nations constitution and should be held to account not be a controlled opposition or through a party procedure but by the electorate. There should be a strong oversight board with the power to dismiss and prosecute those who abuse their populations through corruption and overreach the same way there should be an independent policing body to police the police but unfortunately men and women are corrupt themselves deep down and always end up choosing to collaborate with evil rather than confront it.
I agree with idea that simple people should be the highest supervision over politicians. Well, it is just like that in democracy, unfortunatelly it doesn't work - but I don't think that because all people are corrupted. They aren't - truth is always a little bit more complicated. Lots of people are just too stupid to distinguish evil and good or it is simple to deceive them. Lots of people just don't care - because they do not undestand politics (who really does?  ) or they just want to live simple lifes (IMO not bad). And yes, lots of them are corrupted (but definitelly not all). There are one other aspect of all this. What we consider as good and as bad? It is just our subjective point of view. Do you think that people of (for example) Islamic State consider themselves as bad? IMHO they don't. Maybe they think about themselves as saviors and warriors of justice (exactly as our politicians). Another example. Do you know Star Wars? Great Jedi warriors, keepers of the peace, featuring as good. Oposite of them are Sith Lords, generally considered as bad. But what is the final goal of the Sith? Peace, exactly as for Jedi. It is just fictional story, but reflects the truth - the concept of evil and good (which is so often used in discussions even on this forum) is just reflection of our own selfish and subjecive valuation of what we see around us. And what I want to say? Maybe bad politics are just trying to survive, to win endless fight of evolution in overpopulated Earth just like everybody. They choose tools as they did maybe because they suffer from messiah complex or maybe because it is very pleasant to have a power. It looks like a irrelevant detail, but it helps from going crazy - there are no bad nor good and maybe all this is natural as whole evolution. |
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Don't consider smartphone as phone. It is small computer with lot of sensors and function of telephony. These small computers will be morally obsolete very fast because their hardware fits just so for applied operating system and software (specially the cheap ones). Operating system and applications for smartphones are programmed using various interpreted programming languages and frameworks. This type of programming is fast and cheap, but resulting applications are unefficient and consumes lot of hardware resources. But market demand pushes price of phones down, so manufacturers cannot bother with software very much - thats why lots of cheap phones lack good software support. So the problem is low quality software. Everybody just search for cool hw specifications, but don't bother with quality of software. The big part of problem is that there is oligopol of two mobile OS manufacturers (*). Second one is even locked only for one brand of hardware. What can be expected then? I'm afraid that only thing we can do to increase quality of phone's software is to support some small manufacturer of phones with alternative operating system. It is hard, but not doing so will just keep current state or even get it worse. * Yes, there are some other operating systems, but with negligible market share, see https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide/#monthly-202009-202109. |
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I think this is a good idea, but politicians will find a way to use this concept for corruption, and I envision how will they do it...
Politician 1 will claim an essential need for their family (Obviously not needed) but claimed to be essential, and politicians 2 3 4 and 5 will be his backer that it is essential thus will be approved. And this will go on and on, and by the end they will have high end gadgets, house and lots for their children's, multiple luxary cars, etc.
Well, this won't work. Maybe they will gain some wealth, but they cannot keep it after next elections. Politicians simply cannot buy anything - because they do not have any money. Politicians will be a special kind of servants - they get humble living, some clothes, food to survive... Ohhh, so all of their assets that they deemed "necessary' will be confiscated after their term? is that how will this work?, so even if the family is living a luxary life while the politician is in position, they will go back after the term ends. Oh nice But doesn't that will affect their children mentally, and emotionally as their items will be gone without their knowing, thus having issues. Well, public service in my theory is hard and probably not for everybody. If you want to serve and have family, you will have to count with this. If you raise your children in material way so yes, maybe children can have a problem with that. But I think that it is everybody's choice how he/she raise own children. Maybe lot of public servants (in the meaning of politicians) would decide to not have a family at all. |
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Lack of imagination, hm? Maybe they didn't use metal at all, maybe it is possible to have advanced technology without it.
Lets philosophise. What is civilisation? And what is advanced civilization? How can we define it?
I meant a civilization emerging from earth... of course if you crash land with your space craft with your teleporting devices, no need to forage anything from the earth crust.. just dl it  . Well, thats not what I really mean. Do you hear anything about ants and termits? Those tiny creatures are building towns, making federations, they cultivate and breed, they have air conditioning and lot of other cool things - all without using fire and metal - and all these long before humankind. Maybe we can thing about those as advanced civilization too? What is a sign of civilization? |
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I wonder where did the cow farts joke come from. There is a big difference beetween cows and cars. Carbon polution from cars comes from burning oil, which is mined from earth. If we wouldn't mined it and burned it, the carbon will never come to the air. Polution in cows farts comes from digestion of grass, but this polution comes to the air even if the cow won't exists - it will be released during grass lifecycle either, so we cannot thread it like polution - it is part of natural lifecycle on the Earth. Mass mining and burning oil is not part of any cycle - because there are second part missing (the one which return carbon back to earth).
The first main problem is that there are too many people to preserve balance with natural cycles on whole planet. The solution is simple - reduce quantity of people. If we cannot do this (or don't want to) we have to accept the fact that the balance will never be re-achieved and we have to find other ways of survival. But it is impossible to do it with preservance of today's lifecycle and life diversity.
Second big problem is energy source. A lot of environmental issues will be solved if we had some kind of (ideally) infinite source, so energy will be cheap and available to anyone in any ammount. IMHO the ideal energy source property is to achieve completed balanced cycle similar to lifecycle for example. But maybe it is impossible to have such energy source.
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Lack of imagination, hm? Maybe they didn't use metal at all, maybe it is possible to have advanced technology without it.
Lets philosophise. What is civilisation? And what is advanced civilization? How can we define it?
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I think this is a good idea, but politicians will find a way to use this concept for corruption, and I envision how will they do it...
Politician 1 will claim an essential need for their family (Obviously not needed) but claimed to be essential, and politicians 2 3 4 and 5 will be his backer that it is essential thus will be approved. And this will go on and on, and by the end they will have high end gadgets, house and lots for their children's, multiple luxary cars, etc.
Well, this won't work. Maybe they will gain some wealth, but they cannot keep it after next elections. Politicians simply cannot buy anything - because they do not have any money. Politicians will be a special kind of servants - they get humble living, some clothes, food to survive... |
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Full transparent use of government money which public can access it anytime. Applying blockchain technology for all the government expenses with detailed attachment of the expenses. This will help to avoid corruption and abuse on power. Politicians are just powerful because they can use the government money as they own without being notice. But if imagine if they can't use the money, They will become just a normal employee with normal salary.
IMHO money is just part of all this. Politicians are powerful because they can creates laws and people obey those, doesn't matter how stupid they are. Politicians have police in hand so they can force you to obey. And finally - they have money, so you cannot do anything with it - it is simple too hard to show politicians that you do not agree and not to be ignored. |
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...but no democratic country will implement this because it is going to cause danger to the politicians.
Yes, it is obvious. That's why I called it hypothetical. It is just a theory. |
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Politicans should have an oversight body that is independent of political bias with the power to fire public servants and politicans who are in breach of their contract and the constitution.
This oversight body you are speaking about - aren't those courts? Noted.Yes to a degree but the law societies of various countries are corrupt in themselves whereby legislators and those who sign off on proposed legislation collude to implement the policies of third parties outside of a nation states jurisdiction . There are many "private clubs" where both attorney general and "democratically elected" officials along with the "opposition" are invited to hear the "proposals" of those who believe they are the rightful owners of earth inc and are given incentives to impose policies rubber stamped to ensure they are bound by contractual laws whereby the next "democratically elected" reps will have neither enough years in office or the litigation skills to unravel such a legal contract not to mention the fiscal penalties involved. Most of these policies ensure control through government borrowing to spend on useless social policies that will insure a bloated public debt which will incrue interest ( imagine for one outrageous example in some fantasy world where guberment shut vast sections of the economies of the world and paid people to stay at home  ). Privatisation of assets and resources then comes along to pay for this spending on worthless trinkets and services that are rolled up into financial instruments and sold to the people who end up owning the key assets and infrastructure through medium term notes,bonds,bang guarantees etc.  Well... I am a simple men, maybe don't understand these things very well. But back to topic - you were talking about some kind of independent oversight body. But how would it be possible to implement such a thing without risk it will become - lets say - less independed? |
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Second, there's no way special interest groups wouldn't find a way to effectively bribe politicians – a Super PAC pays for their granddaughter's tuition to Harvard, for example.
Yes indirect bribes are problem I dodn't thought about. In my country the majority of universities are public and the study are basically for free. There are some private universities too, but in general those are just for too_stupid_so_have_to_pay_it people. But yes - globally this can be a problem. Can you think up some other form of indirect bribe in this hypothetically scenario? I am sure that edu problem can have some simple and elegant solution. So the edu problem has two simple and elegant solution. Granddaughter tuition will be paid from public funds as other life costs of whole family. Still much cheaper than coruption, but we can insure that - if granddaughter do not use her education in future (she won't have a job related to education), family will returns all edu costs. Or we just won't care about it at all. If politician will try to do a dirty business (push some law in accordance with some private interest for example) their family just loose living, practically becomes homeless without protection - so anyone can just hang them about their necks until their die . IMHO some granddaughter education is not worth of it. |
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I do not allow the world can be a better place without religion society is beautifully governed by religion there are controversies over religion again in different places religion brings peace to people organized religion arose as a way to maintain peace among related people. But in sovereignties and countries, thousands or billions of people were related to each other organized religion creates bonds between people who aren't related to anyone else. Organized religion justifies a central authority which makes the state social and secure.
Yes yes... We who realize the problems with sectarian warspeace and other beauty knew from the begining that it ends like this - now we are talking about organized religion (I am sure you mean one right religion for all), some doubtful bonds between us and some central authority. As I say somewhere in another similar topic, we already had these kind of things in middleages and no, it wasn't so nice as you think. |
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Yes .. there is a verse that states if we do not obey the rules we will go to hell . I think it's the same as the law if we violate it we will go to jail. Aren't laws and rules created to make everyone feel safe?
Hope you mean this sarcastically. Sorry to say, but I don't feel safe because of law. If you do, I am sure that you know every law of your country, including every international laws and rules in detail. And if you don't, how do you know that you do not violate some right know? Maybe you should go to jail too... You still feel safe? |
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In my own opinion, there are two important things that keep the world going
Football and Religion, religion makes people see those of the same religious
with them as brothers and sisters, hence contributing in making the world a
Better place.
You are right, but you didn't complete a thought. As you said people of the same religion are brothers and sisters, but others are just hateful enemies. |
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First, you're basically chasing away anyone who has already accumulated some wealth. Although they have got problems, enterprising people have got good ideas for how to run a country.
I don't see this as problem - it is by design. You have to loose something to gain power instead. It is proof that you mean it seriously when you are prepared to sacrifice something valuable to you. The gap beetween politician and simple people will be smaller in that case too. If you don't want to give up your wealth and you have some good idea, you can always promote it in other way without power to push it by force. Second, there's no way special interest groups wouldn't find a way to effectively bribe politicians – a Super PAC pays for their granddaughter's tuition to Harvard, for example.
Yes indirect bribes are problem I dodn't thought about. In my country the majority of universities are public and the study are basically for free. There are some private universities too, but in general those are just for too_stupid_so_have_to_pay_it people. But yes - globally this can be a problem. Can you think up some other form of indirect bribe in this hypothetically scenario? I am sure that edu problem can have some simple and elegant solution.
Politicans should have an oversight body that is independent of political bias with the power to fire public servants and politicans who are in breach of their contract and the constitution.
This oversight body you are speaking about - aren't those courts?
Voting for someone who then turns around and votes against them is a scam.
The solution to corruption is democracy and make everyone vote count. In blockchain times easy done.
Self-govenment the locical sensible solution.
Nice. But it assumed technically educated people. And we need to solve the problem of buying/selling votes. |
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Some time ago I was thinking about corrupted politicians in democratic countries and how to prevent this phenomenon. Things like big salary is to prevent corruption doesn't work, so why not to take all salary from them? In brief it should look like this...
Politicians and their families cannot have and manipulate with finance of any kind at all. After elections all their present property will be nationalized. During the political service all their life costs will be paid from public funds, so as the living, which will be taken after the service. They will be motivated to rule well to rule as long as possible, because absence of any finance will effectively prevent from hoarding resources for later. After the service they will get some minimal one-shot retirement - for example one-year average salary.
What do you think about this? Can it works?
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Christians in politics? No thank you...
We had chritians in politics in Europe in middleages and that was enough. You who promotes this crazy idea, what do you expect from it? Christians will just push their own religion and ideas by force to others, what is this good for?
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The whole world is usually plagued with the problem continues to grow as the days go by due to corruption. One of the responsibilities of the citizens is to abide by the existing laws and constitutions of the state and society and to show respect to the law when someone breaks the law, there is chaos in the society normal life is disrupted every citizen has to protest against corruption and injustice in various fields. Good governance and a corruption free society will be established only if it is the moral responsibility of the citizens to stand up against any illegal act of the individual or organization or even the state.
This is very nice but how can you define illegal? Government adjusts laws for their needs. There are lot of things that are: - legal (or even enforced by law) but I do not agree with them;
- illegal but I agree with them.
So should I respect laws I do not agree or even consider as bad? And what is good / bad? It is just my personal point of view - other people may view it differently. |
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